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"戴杰克"
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Comments: 1705
The piece was lovely- how could I resist?
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Well, thank you for the cookie (and, of course, the beautiful piece of yours that is now with my favorites)!
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I also have this one [link] if you have time to check it out 
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So what do you think of my side critic? I tend to write it this way...(Don't mind the mistakes of grammar etc...)
[link]
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I also did this one, and finished it today
[link]
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Hey
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Thanks
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Of course I will have a look
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Love reading your critics. "Critiques should be written well thought" is something that is appointed to you aye?
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I didn't realize my watchers were notified when I wrote critiques.
How do you think I do? Generally?
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I think you do great! It is well constructed and in respects of the artist. A bit heavy weighted as not all can understand your intellectual rendering about artistic vision, but that is you and your perspective. It is quite of additional value and it helps me to review my comments as well. Sometimes I tend to be too direct. You are careful with chosen words and realize what tools you have to give a good proper comment (knowing what you don't see and what the artist can tell). A little easy on giving the high ranks though...
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Well, f*ck.
It's hard for me to find that middle ground between "It looks nice" and "This is a masterful representation" so I usually keep it professional and critical as if I were critiquing something in a museum. That's essentially how I treat my inbox: temporary displays in a museum (my favorites are part of the permanent collection).
If I'm commenting then I try not to get heavy with technical terms but, if it is a critique, then part of me expects the artist to understand the concepts I'm talking about.
Fact of the matter is no one will ever consider anything below a 3 star critique a 'fair' assessment of their work. But I'll admit, a couple times, when I saw something that I could have given 2.5 stars to, I chose 3 (which, as you may have noticed, I consider to my reaction neutral aka 'eh').
I believe someone would have to go out of their way for me to give them anything below a 3 because that would mean my reaction would be negative like 'what were they thinking' or 'what is that'.
Luckily, I have never critiqued anything like that!
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I understand where you're coming from. I have to admit I just give a general comment and I don't make the segments you are addressing to your judgments; I think that is professional of you and i questioned myself sometimes if it is better to do the same. If I would comment and really spent time on critiquing (besides on your work of course) I might do that as you do, however, in my own perspective of course, trying to be as objective as possible. Thing is, critiquing and writing is something that comes with my occupation as an analyst, so I'm confronting what is going on.
I do sympathize your arguments about the rating. However, I don't forget that it is multi artwork that is commented and potentially a great number with a broad range of all kinds of art. If I would comment the piece you were last criticizing, and then a piece that is two levels above, I would "discriminate", giving the artist with the lesser result 'handicap'-points. In your perspective, I think, you're taking much notice of the fact people are sensitive to scoring points/stars or whatever kind of status, like IQ. It is a choice. I choose to reflect the direct result, but I also try to show and motivate to the right direction and to improve by noticing the base-essence of ones art. Instead of saying: "This piece looks like crap", you can also say: "You have a nice touch of emotion, but there is room for improvement on the technical part", for instance
If you know from yourself you're a hard critic, then you can warn people if they are really genuine interested in your commenting to learn from it, or if they use the DA-option to get as many positive things to get some kind of acknowledgement and status, like: "See? Others say that I'm good. (Now I don't have to say it myself)", hiding under a false modesty. It is something that realms the artworld and talent, thus intelligence is measured on how technically good your result looks. Especially realism has those artist they just want to perform, but not really channel. It is a choice and may be a respectable choice, but the broadness of art is so much more. Put things into perspective when you write a critique and wonder yourself whether the artist is genuine interested in your critique, or is just interested, because you write so nice!
And don't let us forget one thing. If we give a genuine critique...the artist in question can either decide to take it or leave it, as long as it is not a personal attack; The artist in question is making it so. Fall on your face, be willing to fall on your face, the drive to improve yourself and to learn to speak your own artistic nature in a way, understanding combines the viewer to your impressions... THAT separates the status figures from the passionists, as art is something convenient and "happen to like"...or, you can perform it whenever, where ever...with the goal to express yourselves in the artfield of your choice.
Think about it...
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You brought up some very good points and I tried to use them to adjust my system a bit. Read my most recent critique and let me know what you think.
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Before I begin my critique I should point out that I judge every piece as if I were walking through a virtual museum so, although I do my best to place the piece it whatever context is intended, my background is fine art and my view points come from that arena.
'Vision' is an inconveniently vague concept; I consider it to include wither a work's composition or it's artistic elaboration (how much an artist has manipulated a reference or source image), or sometimes, if appropriate, both. Lately, I have been utilizing its duality because, where a piece may be lacking in one, it makes up for in the other. In the case of composition I believe this piece could have been cropped closer to the figure. Additionally, I find the characters being crammed into the space above her head distracting. Had they been sketched out neatly and measured to share the space with the figure then I would have considered them part of the composition and less of an afterthought.
This is just fine, you’ve explained how your motivation to your arguments come together and how you will judge. No problems here…
In terms of artistic elaboration, this piece is fan art of a series I am wholly unfamiliar with: I do not know if anything was improved or not.
This is a little dangerous…since you can look up some previous works of the artist, this can be taken as “lazyness”. Make yourself a little familiar. In my case I can tell you it is absolutely not original. It is just standard manga.
It is difficult to judge the originality of fan art but, if the figure in question is portrayed as the character the artist attempted to capture then it has been successful.
You’re right, but I do remind you, you render originality. Getting likeness is technique, getting the emotion carried over is impact. Originality ranges the artistic impressions. I think you have a different perspective then I do perhaps, that is why I tell you 0-1 yes/no black/white directly as you have to mark a general score. The 4 spectra you’re able to choose from comes together by looking at the piece in more than one way…even if it is appropriate to just one technique. Sure you come from fine-art perspective, so that is the front you’re most familiar with; this is the objective part I was talking about.
In this case, this piece portrays the likeness of an anime character and, without knowing the series, I'm going to assume the artist has, in fact, captured that character so my score is neutral.
If you are handicapped as you say by not knowing the references, then judge the proportional balance. Pure judge if the proportion-relation renders to plausible or not. Since you do not know the likeness of the character. If a name is given you can look it up onto google. Otherwise the likeness is not very irrelevant and extend the average of your judgments and what you really think about it (even if it is brutally insulting if you would say it).
For a work of fan art to score higher in 'Originality' then neutral, for me, the artist must do something to express their unique style through their subject matter.
Strong argument and actually not the only thing. (potential) ideas count as well.
I should point out that I DO NOT critique sketches. If anywhere in the work's title, description, or category 'sketching' is indicated, I will not comment on it because 'sketching' indicates it is an unfinished drawing. Since this piece was described as a 'drawing', I will proceed to critique it as a finished drawing.
Yes and no. Yes you can consider this as a finished drawing, but sketching can be a very powerful thing in art, like [link] for instance. Here I would rate it 4 stars at least! Instead, render to the balance. In your critic-case I think his sketching is not addressed and chaotic; not really in balance and what is empty here, it is drawn there, you get what I mean? I would have left this part a bit…
In regards to 'Technique', the artist has shown a decent understanding of values including highlights, middle values, and shadow but there seems to be no particular style. The shading is uneven and the direction of the strokes do not provide any indication of contour. Additionally, the figure's face is devoid of any values but, in this case, that might be a trait of this character.
Perfect; it is a part of the opinion formation in an observational way.
In regards to 'Impact' I consider how powerful the overall image is to me and, in this case, I do not find anything significantly impactful. The pose is nice (and anatomically accurate) but my biggest issue and the one I find most detrimental to this piece is how dark it is. Unless this piece was drawn on toned paper, the highlights should be significantly brighter (and if this piece was drawn on toned paper then the shadows should be significantly darker to compensate).
I think you are accustomed by dark tones yourself as you like to see a full shading. You can do very light work too, but again, then it must match up a balance. You’re right about the fact it hasn’t got play, but the genre manga/amine-toons is quite monotone in technique. So a “rolling depth” and shadowplay that makes realism and fineart so powerful is not very applicable in this case.
It should be noted that this is a very nice sketch of an existing anime character but none of the DA ratings take into account the 'accuracy' of fan art.
Good motivation and slot sentence, but be aware that this beginner-artist might have considered this as a full drawing instead of a sketch, but doesn’t have the knowledge you and I have yet. I think you lay much weight on the distinguish of sketching and fineart.
What I’m gonna say is in point what I really think of it. It is important to show this side of me, because it helps to get the genuine opinion out of it. The creativity of choosing the right and proper words is the respect to the other to form your statements in an adult manner and I think you’re fine with this, but I can confront you with this…
Now if I would critic it; I would give him a 1 star for originality. There is nothing inviting in artistic range and just a copy-cat of fan art. Obvious as you’ve also pointed out. The impact is not very emotional; it is dull and not standing out compared to other manga art. Also 1 star on impact. Vision is hard to judge since you do not know the motivations and inspiration to create this. But it is not accountable to get the right viewers across to fascinate them and to let them trip in own imagined stories, like your art calls forth, or a story with the goal clear before his eyes. It is just a fan art and hopefully to attract some attention. So vision would be a 1.5 here. Technique is his strongest part. As you say the sketching is blur and the quality is bad, but it shows clearly he can relate proportions, so I would give him 3 stars on that. I have seen much better manga than this.
Now if I would say this I would tore him off. So it comes down how to motivate the person in the right way. In this case I would choose a constructive approach, rather than the direct analysis and just tell where improvements can be made. I think in general you have the right proper respects to the artist and I think you definitely should continue in this style of critiquing. Remember, if you are to critic someone, they assume YOU are the expert! So make your arguments defensible…it is the art of writing.
Hope I was helpful…
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Heya
I've tried the cross-hatch shading and wanted your opinion on it
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Thanks
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Okay, I shot you back a critique. That piece was strong enough to have one
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I really appreciate you taking the time to write a critique for my drawing. I agree with what you said, and I hope to improve on my next submittion
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Excellent! I can't wait to see it
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You're welcome! It was lovely to behold!
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Hi
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Thank you ;A;
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Thank you so much ;A;
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It looked like you were in 3rd. Not bad!
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Thanks 
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awesome gallery. your pieces really look like a cohesive body of work!
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Thank you. I definitely favor some materials and mediums more than others but I like to dabble in a little bit of everything
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I would like to invite you to visit my music site [link] when you have the time.
There's also a poll concerning my music, located on my DA profile page below my ID, if you would like to participate. Your feedback is appreciated.
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Ah, thank you. I will investigate it when I have a moment to do so!
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Thank you for faving "Eden". Much appreciate!!
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No problem; your work was beautiful!
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MISSSSSSSSSSS UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU <3
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thanks so much for the faves! I have given you a Llama to say thanks
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Your work is beautiful; you were well entitled to the faves.
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Thanks, my friend, I really appreciate your fave.
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Your work is so detailed and so beautiful, how could I not? Out of curiosity, how do you manage to do so much so quickly?
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Actually I'm very slow. The works you can see I have done in the past 3 years
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