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I really think Hope would have been just as weirded out by Lightning’s E3 pose as a lot of the gamers were.
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stevemacqwark [2013-06-26 23:13:33 +0000 UTC]

Alyssa no longer exists.

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aquanut In reply to stevemacqwark [2013-06-27 02:20:34 +0000 UTC]

She has time-traveled from the past just to hit on Hope because that's how far her stalker senses will take her.

But nothing in this comic is actually supposed to be canon, so she's entitled to a cameo.

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Sola-Minako In reply to aquanut [2013-06-28 05:29:25 +0000 UTC]

i approve then. xD

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aquanut In reply to Sola-Minako [2013-06-28 11:40:16 +0000 UTC]

Haha, great. xD

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DebuLover [2013-06-26 20:55:33 +0000 UTC]

They said that pose was just put in the demo to see how fans reacted to such a action. People were negative so they said they took it out.

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aquanut In reply to DebuLover [2013-06-27 02:04:08 +0000 UTC]

I didn't hear that they put it in the demo specifically to see how fans reacted, but I do know it's supposed to be removed. Having seen it, though, we can still make fun of it.

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Anadia-Chan [2013-06-26 20:32:47 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha ha! That's hilarious and adorable X) I think Hope would have that kind of reaction too

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aquanut In reply to Anadia-Chan [2013-06-27 02:23:35 +0000 UTC]

Haha, thank you, I'm glad you like it! And I'm glad you agree about his reaction, haha, the Hopurai comics I've seen about the clothing changes have tended to have him wanting to dress her up for him to look at and I've always found it hard to actually see him doing that.

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Anadia-Chan In reply to aquanut [2013-06-27 11:54:29 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha yeah. Alyssa's comment and pose is so funny too.

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aquanut In reply to Anadia-Chan [2013-06-28 11:58:33 +0000 UTC]

Haha, thank you, glad you like it. xD

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Annihilator1 In reply to ??? [2013-06-26 20:11:00 +0000 UTC]

What's with the formal dress in this? Green tie? Hopes (is that the white haired guy?) outfit, the business suit? Are they going to have a board meeting? XD

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aquanut In reply to Annihilator1 [2013-06-27 02:26:31 +0000 UTC]

Lightning's just out fighting monsters like normal and he's talking to her over a communicator. Yep, the white-haired guy's name is Hope, and that's his default costume. I wouldn't call anyone else's clothes in this "formal dress", haha.

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Annihilator1 In reply to aquanut [2013-06-27 09:55:30 +0000 UTC]

KThnxBye

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artofsnark [2013-06-26 17:16:58 +0000 UTC]

XD "DIRECTOR!"
Bahahahha LOVE THIS!

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aquanut In reply to artofsnark [2013-06-27 02:23:50 +0000 UTC]

Ahahaha, thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

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Zaziki7 In reply to ??? [2013-06-26 10:26:49 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, that's just too awesome!! xD
Lightning looks gorgeous, especially with her expression, and Alyssa's reaction is priceless. Shy Light is also cute, just like Hope! ARGH, I LOVE THIS!!

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aquanut In reply to Zaziki7 [2013-06-26 12:45:54 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! xD
Thank you for the response, I'm really glad you enjoyed all their reactions! Haha, yeah, Light doesn't get shy too often, it is interesting to see her more off-guard.

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Zaziki7 In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 15:26:54 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome, thank YOU for creating and sharing this with us! x'D
She's really cute while being off-guard. I'm sure Hope likes her softer side which rarely shows, too.

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IckleIllusionist [2013-06-26 10:16:30 +0000 UTC]

Alyssa never fails to amuse me in your pictures! 8D

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aquanut In reply to IckleIllusionist [2013-06-26 12:40:19 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, I'm glad--I can't miss an opportunity to stick her into these things now. xD

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to ??? [2013-06-26 09:59:44 +0000 UTC]

OMG THANK YOU SOMEONE THAT AGREES. I was like "I'm sorry wtf are you doing one minute you are completely serious next you're SMILING AND BEING CUTE AND SEXY. NO LIGHTNING. JUST NO."
Apparently it's being cut from the game though

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-06-26 12:39:32 +0000 UTC]

Haha no problem, though I think a lot of people were bothered by it, it's definitely not just you and me. (Thing is though that she wasn't even smiling, which made it even weirder IMO. She just looks at you with these cold dead eyes and... yeah, no, I don't need you doing that while I'm playing thanks.)

And yeah, it's being cut and I'm very glad about that. Hopefully there won't be anything else too OOC that's left in.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 16:24:54 +0000 UTC]

It just doesn't suit her personality if you get what I mean? I'm really angry at the fact in an interview the director Motomu Toriyama said that they were listening to what the fans wanted.
No. No I didn't want any of this. I WANTED paradigms, party systems, crystarium levelling, A FREAKING GUNBLADE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD YOU CANNOT CHANGE HER WEAPON AFTER TWO GAMES, eidolons, a game without a god damn time limit that will make me play from the beginning of the game if I run out of time, a game I don't have to play several times to see EVERY cutscene, just not this. This is horrible in my personal opinion.

I do love the FFXIII series but from my point of view it's like those who created the series have thought "Well no one really likes FFXIII. They hated XIII-2. Let's just run this game into the ground and set it on fire with a really bad sequel that will piss off all the fans that DO like the series."

I don't think I've ever raged so much at a game before >.<

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-06-26 17:13:51 +0000 UTC]

I am in absolute agreement there--doesn't suit her personality at all. There are many other female characters in the FF series where the pose probably would have seemed in-character and people would hardly have blinked, but on Lightning it's so obviously shoehorned in that it's just uncomfortable to watch. I like to see the characters I care about kept consistent, thank you.

Well, no creators are ever going to be able to please the whole fanbase, but sometimes things can go in a bad direction when they start trying to pander. Honestly I don't really care about all of the things about this game that will likely draw complaints because all I'm interested in is seeing how the conclude the trilogy and what they do with the characters... even if I don't like how they do it (in all likelihood it'll probably have plenty of loose ends), at least there'll be canon to base fanworks off of. I have no problem with the time limit or the new battle system, although I do really wish the whole XIII cast were playable again.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 21:29:55 +0000 UTC]

I can see Serah doing that sort of pose maybe. I think they were trying to do it to appeal to the male gamers :S But yeah I would rather there was consistency I can understand they want to show her more human and vulnerable side in this game but the pose was just no.

Yeah I can understand that but I just feel they have made too many changes to this game for my liking I wouldn't have minded one or two changes but taking away party systems was one of the worst things they could have done for me because I'm terrible if I don't have a party member. I need someone that can heal me when I'm low on health so I don't have to worry about trying to find a safe space to do it myself. I never completed Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep because I put myself on Proud mode so you have very little health and when you have a weak character like Aqua you're kinda in trouble unless you're a pro gamer (which I'm not >.<)

I would like to see how they conclude the game and make a happy ending but my biggest concern for characters is that they have so many now that they won't all get a large amount of screen time. I just really hope it won't be like XIII-2 where Fang and Vanille only got between 1-2 minutes of screen time and that was it, and you had to pay for the Sazh Katzroy DLC to see more of him :S

I am interested in seeing the fanworks once the game is out (but i'll have to be careful in avoiding the spoilers >.<)

That's what I would have liked, a chance to play the entire XIII cast along with Serah and Noel.

I wonder what's happened to Mog? Do you think he will be with Hope helping him out or something? Then again Mog appeared to have got his powers from Etro and he fainted at the end of XIII-2 so do you think he could have died D:

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-07-01 12:41:15 +0000 UTC]

I can see Serah or Vanille doing it, but Lightning never came across as a fanservice character and seeing them treating her that way just makes me facepalm. Not every female character has to get shoved into the same types of stock mannerisms, especially if it's inconsistent with how she's always acted before.

I'm not happy with the lack of party members either, more because I just prefer having a large cast of characters to pick from than for gameplay reasons, but I'm glad Lightning is playable rather than some random new character or anyone else. Healing with potions outside of battle again will take some getting used to.

I'm worried about that too--I was disappointed in Fang and Vanille's extremely brief cameo in XIII-2 as well, and I hope they get more of a role in this game than just suddenly being freed in the ending. But I'm happy that Lightning and Hope will be interacting throughout the game.

Yeah, it's going to be especially tough to avoid spoilers since the overseas release is several months after the Japanese one.

I hadn't actually thought about Mog until now, but... it is possible he died, especially since he was Serah's protector and perhaps that connected him to her somehow. Otherwise I suppose Hope might have taken him in, but then you'd think he'd have gotten back to Lightning at some point since she sent him on the quest in the first place.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-07-01 19:44:28 +0000 UTC]

They did it to appeal to male gamers because they want to bring them back through sex appeal. When will Square Enix learn the way to attract gamers is through a GOOD STORY not through sex appeal because it just turns away the fans that liked the game in the first place -.-' And yes it is very inconsistent which I really dislike >.< I didn't mind the other pose where she points her sword and has that serious pose because THAT WAS GOOD. But not the other one >.< That's why I'm annoyed with the sword and shield, and all other huge changes made because it is inconsistent with the FFXIII series. Just taking away Crystariums, Parties, Paradigms, gahhhh.
What's more they have made her outfits customizable as they are the things that you use to change Schemata for your different moves and you can make her wear hardly any clothes or just look downright ridiculous :/ You can give her pink bunny ears and huge stupid hats and I think I may have seen a traffic cone as one item but hopefully it will have been removed now -.-' Lightning isn't like that. Sure she can look really pretty and elegant in a purple dress (one of her outfits shown) but she is a soldier. It's not what she's like.

Yeah I liked the variety of party members in FFXIII because each had a speciality like Sazh being a Synergist, Snow was a Sentinel, it gave you a choice as to the role you wanted to play in battle. And yeah I'll have to remember that but knowing me I will run out of gil to buy potions or just end up using them all up and sapping away loads of time from the clock so I can heal (if I can heal I'll probably get healed trying to do so like in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep).

I heard from someone else that the boss at the Dead Dunes was confirmed to be female so I'm thinking either Lumina or possibly Fang and Vanille could be the boss battle there. I hope they do have a MUCH bigger role because I was so upset with their terrible amount of screen time The problem with Lightning fighting alone is that you won't see much of ANY characters because they won't be joining you in battle in any way shape or form, so it's only safe to conclude that once you meet them they will not follow you around either. It will just be an encounter and you will go your separate ways. This will probably be the biggest disappointment for me
But yeah at least we know Light and Hope will interact but I watched the demo and she's like "So what now Mr. Hope Estheim?" and he says "Lightning please, just call me Hope." so she's going to be stupidly formal with him like in your comic -.-' Why can't Square Enix keep ANYTHING consistent with her personality. I don't understand why she's gone so cold since she even joked around in FFXIII-2 when she finally saw Serah in New Bodhum ???AF and she smiled at Noel and Serah when she said Mog would show the way to Academia 500AF. I can understand her being upset over Serah's death by why has she become formal for no reason?

Why are the Japanese doing this to us DX I got the ending to XIII-2 ruined for me by Google Autotype or whatever it is. I was planning on typing "Why does Serah not get an eidolon in FFXIII" because of when she breaks down and tries to break up with Snow and shut everyone out of her life. I got as far as her name and it came up "Why does Serah die at the end of FFXIII-2?" and I was like WHAT?!?! D:
And I had also seen some gif stamps of Serah dying in Noel's arms on DeviantART when I just typed in Serah Farron :S

Maybe he is like the eidolons and just lost his power when Etro died so he's with Hope (I freaking hope he is with him or I'll throw the game out the window).
Everyone assumed Lightning was dead (or at least we know that Noel did so perhaps everyone else thought so too?) so perhaps Mog didn't go back because he believed she was gone since he couldn't sense her in Valhalla and definitely wouldn't in Academia.
Or maybe if he did lose his powers he just couldn't go back to her at all.
Either way I want him alive D:

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-07-02 14:07:39 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I don't know anyone who actually buys a game because of sex appeal; it would be nice if more developers realized that they don't need to bend over backwards trying to put it in their games. I don't have as much of a problem with the outfits (although a lot of them do look ridiculous/not well-designed IMO) because the variety of clothes she's getting has a decent balance so far--we've seen a dress, a suit, and apparently she is going to get Cloud's outfit too, so it won't all be shredded cloth and miniskirts. I do think part of the fun of having such a huge variety of costumes is being able to use some out-of-character ones, even if I probably won't be using them myself. (I really enjoyed putting plushies and hairbows on my behemoths and whatnot in XIII-2, haha.)

I think it was said somewhere that Lightning would be very cold at the start of LR and warm up over the course of the game, but I don't know the source. Hopefully there'll be an explanation of her formality, yes.

Ouch, getting spoilered by Google autotype is pretty awful; I've had that happen for a couple of minor things too. At this point I just know that I basically can't look at anything on the internet for something unless I expect to be spoiled.

Or maybe Mog is stuck in some alternate timeline? No explanation yet for why Hope is a kid again, so practically anything is possible at this point.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-07-02 16:23:15 +0000 UTC]

Me neither -.-'
Some are okay but others are just ridiculous and are clearly there to make her either look stupid or because they ran out of ideas and just thought "Hey let's throw that in there."
I don't like the idea of a suit, her purple ballgown dress looks really elegant and beautiful on her but really? For FIGHTING in?
I didn't mind making monsters look ridiculous and putting some items on my Lightning because they genuinely looked pretty on her (I think I gave her Lebreau's tatoo because it looked nice?) but making her have bunny ears makes me cringe >.<

It's just...ugh. After FFXIII and FFXIII-2 where she's got really really happy, friendly, and even jokes about at times they've just crushed all of that and turned her into another one of Square Enix's emo characters that are constantly serious and act depressed :/

It was horrific. I wanted to die. But since Japan get the game so early I won't be able to type any FFXIII sort of questions or stuff into google until I get my copy and finish the game.

Oh lord I just saw that and was going to tell you about it T^T Hope's done all this maturing and whatever and become a really hot adult and now he's back to being 14 -.-' I bet they did it on purpose to crush any Lightning x Hope and Hope x Vanille fandoms D:<

I've actually decided I am going to do a Let's Play of Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII because I've been really raging on Twitter everytime a new update for the game has come out and my friend says he wants to watch me play it so I'm going to do it kinda like PewDiePie and Tobuscus where I have a video of myself in the corner playing the game on top of the video of the game. I'm also thinking of having either a Complaint Counter which will count how many times I complain in each episode or possibly over the course of the entire game, or a Rage Bar which will go up and down throughout the episode depending on whether something has annoyed the hell out of me or I've liked something then at the end of each episode I'll show how annoyed I got whilst playing the game XD It will be like a Rage Quit video off of Achievement Hunters on YouTube.

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-07-02 17:37:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm not that impressed with how the dress looks, but I really like the suit. Different people have different tastes; I'm not going to complain as long as there's decent variety.

Lightning always came across as a serious character to me, and one bearing a lot of burdens. I never thought of her as really happy and friendly, except maybe in the brief moment when she smiles at the end of XIII.

Haha, well, Hope being a kid has never stopped the shippers. Lightning/Hope was hugely popular in Japanese fandom way before XIII-2 ever came out.

Haha, sounds like a lot of fun. xD If that's what it takes for you to enjoy the game, I hope it works.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-07-02 19:45:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah at least it appeals to everyone but then if you like one then you hate another with a burning passion XD

Yeah she is serious 99.9% of the time but when she was with Hope and he said "Mom?" in his sleep and she smirks and says "Not by a long shot...", or when she's with Snow on Gran Pulse and knocks him over and smiles at him saying "You are getting married right? Don't you let her down you hear me.", and of course at the end of FFXIII Then there's also that moment in XIII-2 when she laughs at Serah and says "It's good to doubt. It means you're growing up." and when she rescues Noel and Serah from the sea of Chaos and smiles at them. SHE WAS GETTING HAPPY. WHY HAVE THEY DONE THIS DX

Aha fair point XD But it would have made it fit so much better AND HE WAS SO HOT. SO. SO. HOT.

I'll laugh at it when I look back but the majority of it will me swearing at every cut scene going "Oh for **** sake..." or taking the piss out of something XD

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-07-03 03:32:49 +0000 UTC]

True, there are those moments. Also, her calling him "Mr. Hope Estheim" in LR could be seen as a jest since the formal address is so incongruent with his young appearance. They say LR will have a happy ending, though, so that would mean Lightning will probably end up finding contentment somehow.

so Square shouldn't care about sex appeal huh He may still age back before the end of the game, we'll have to wait and see. I'm personally happy about it because I like XIII Hope's design better.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-07-03 13:04:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah she did say it in a kinda sarcastic way in the demo so she might be doing it to annoy him XD
I hope so and I WANT MORE SERAH AND LIGHTNING ADORABLENESS D:

Aha can't blame a girl for fangirling XD But it would have made it fit all the fan pairings :')
I do love him in both games because in FFXIII he's like an adorable puppy :') Everytime he got angry and shouted I was like "Awww come here and let me cuddle you puppy."
I like the Hi Def image of him he looks really adorable

I don't know why but I kinda thought up something that would make a funny comic. One panel where he's like "YAY I'M 27 I CAN DO ALL THIS AMAZING ADULT STUFF LIKE DRINK ALCOHOL!" then the other panel with him as a little kid going "God dammit." with a -.- face XD

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-07-03 18:20:48 +0000 UTC]

I want to see Serah and Lightning interact too--it's hard for me to imagine them not bringing Serah back somehow, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Haha, it was just funny because of how much you were ranting earlier about the fanservice targeted at straight males. I like his new render too, it's really nice.

Haha, pretty much the woes of any character that goes back in time, I suppose.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-07-03 18:27:51 +0000 UTC]

Maybe she will be brought back with Noel's Yeul? I hope so I want to see that bit that was shown in the Oracle Drive with Noel and Yeul running at each other to hug XD

The render is amazing I like that they have started from scratch with all the new models especially for Lightning. I was watching one of the Square Enix Presents videos on YouTube where they showed the progression of Lightning's model from FFXIII to Lightning Returns and you can see how amazing the details are and how the hair looks much softer and natural compared to FFXIII where it is all pixelly

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Hope Estheim

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aquanut In reply to HeyVikkiTime [2013-07-04 11:35:17 +0000 UTC]

That moment always gives me FF8 vibes, haha. I want to see Yeul and Caius again too, since it was hinted at the end of XIII-2.

Yes, it's really awesome to see the graphics develop! I don't know whether I'll be a fan of the environments yet since I tend to prefer lush natural ones like in Gran Pulse--I'm hoping there'll be a couple like that in addition to the more developed or barren areas we've already seen.

Haha, exactly.

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HeyVikkiTime In reply to aquanut [2013-07-04 13:38:43 +0000 UTC]

I NEED TO PLAY THAT GAME I NEED TO BUY IT D: Oh you wanna know what I've done? I bought FFVII on ebay for Β£16 and it arrived today. THE SAME DAY FFVII WENT ON TO STEAM D:< Then again my laptop sucks at gaming so oh well but it's so annoying XD

But it was the creepy Yeul laugh o.o I don't like the creepy Yeul laugh...
I wonder what he meant by "Yeul, let us begin..."?

The Dead Dunes looks really boring and plain so far :/ It's just desert. The only thing that looks fun is the sliding but that will keep me happy for 5 minutes then I'll be like "Ugh Lightning hurry up do one of your mega jumps like in FFXIII and XIII-2 you would probably travel faster you realize we are doing this against a time limit here :')
I loved Gran Pulse it was so beautiful T^T

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Butterfly--Empress In reply to ??? [2013-06-26 08:39:15 +0000 UTC]

LOL I like the fact that in the first panel, Light's face is so SRS while she sexily poses like it's not a big deal to her (even though deep down it probably really is since she's doing it for Hope lawl).

LOL oh silly Light, it's not that he doesn't like it he does...he just wouldn't be able to concentrate on helping your missions if he had to see that all the time. pfft.

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aquanut In reply to Butterfly--Empress [2013-06-26 12:44:46 +0000 UTC]

LOL I like this comment hahaha, thank you for all the responses!

Hahaha I'm glad you like her expression--I found it weird that in the demo she has this cold blank look on her face while she does that, hence this. I'm sure it's a total cover-up and deep down she can't believe she's doing this.

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Butterfly--Empress In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 21:04:45 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

Yea I noticed that too and i laughed, i thought that same thing. XD

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Sola-Minako In reply to ??? [2013-06-26 04:28:57 +0000 UTC]

LOL nice. Yeah i heard they aren't gonna keep that pose... i really hope that's true. doesnt seem fitting of her.. xD

(also Alyssa....?? she's gone isnt she? XD ahah) very funny though ;D

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aquanut In reply to Sola-Minako [2013-06-26 12:41:49 +0000 UTC]

Haha, thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. xD Yeah, supposedly it's going to be cut, which I'm happy about. It wasn't that the pose was even that bad, but it seemed horribly out of character.

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SavageFrog In reply to ??? [2013-06-26 02:56:56 +0000 UTC]

I can't seem to find the original pic; do you have a link Aqua?

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aquanut In reply to SavageFrog [2013-06-26 12:40:48 +0000 UTC]

What original pic do you mean? A screenshot of Lightning's pose in the demo?

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SavageFrog In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 14:51:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes, the screenshot from the demo

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aquanut In reply to SavageFrog [2013-06-26 16:48:12 +0000 UTC]

[link]

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SavageFrog In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 16:51:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much

...she looks like she wants to murder someone in cold blood. Kinda scary. XD

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aquanut In reply to SavageFrog [2013-06-26 16:59:56 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

...Hahaha I know. I swear I toned down her expression when I drew it. xD In any case I really don't even find that the pose comes off the way it's intended; for me it's just uncomfortable to look at.

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SavageFrog In reply to aquanut [2013-06-26 17:02:21 +0000 UTC]

Any fan would be wondering what they were thinking - Lightning just wasn't made to be a fan-service character (and I consider that as blessing~)

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Akantor13 In reply to SavageFrog [2013-11-20 13:45:51 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for reviving something so old, but that pose is from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure:Β static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c…
Almost everything in japan do references to this manga. It's pretty famous.

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