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moomoocowsly [2005-02-23 04:21:03 +0000 UTC]

To be honest I agree with alot of people who posted before me, the photo isn't quite deserving of a DD.

I'm no lighting expert, but judging from shadows and the catchlight in her eyes, you only used one light for this and left the background unlit, the light is too harsh and results in heavy dark shadows across her arms. Her skin tone is off in a way which looks underexposed.. and I think it probably is, did you underexpose the photo and just dodge her face a little? The whites of her eyes look out of place, too.

The composition is so-so, way too much wasted headroom, I think she probably should have brushed her hair also... you said that a frightened "just-raped" look wasn't what you aimed to acheive, yet you've done it here...

Her expression is priceless though, I think you probably needed to shoot the flash to the right through a softbox instead, and maybe had a gold reflector on the opposite side to fill in a couple of shadows in her hair.

By the way.... when I mentioned before that the shot wasn't worthy of a DD, you shouldn't take that as a purely negative comment... it's just that in the past, the chosen daily deviations were the kind of shots which make your jaw drop, recently they've been slacking a little.... Nice effort though.

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dakth In reply to moomoocowsly [2005-02-23 07:25:26 +0000 UTC]

How is it not deserving of a DD?

A DD is an admin feature with no, I repeat NO set criteria. It's not an award, nor is it for popularity. The admin chooses it because s/he likes it.

Why did I choose it? Because I like it.

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fb101 In reply to moomoocowsly [2005-02-23 07:24:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the critic.....And the time spent on it. I am not a specialist of the DDs and I can't compare this, or the other one I had a few days ago, to the others. Still I appreciate what you say.....

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jensie In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 04:02:41 +0000 UTC]

I"m no photography major that I can go "yes, my crit is valid" but...she looks too dull, lifeless and toned down, save for the freakishly bright lighting on her face - I can totally understand wanting the face to be the focal point in something like this...but it's too bright. Reminds me of what happens when you toss a grey layer over something in photoshop, honestly.

She's kind of mussed up and ...well..blah. Her hair is messy, but not in an "artist" manner to me - it's like she forgot to brush it... I'd say it was just me, but..I can tell it's not.

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Starrydance In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 03:58:58 +0000 UTC]

Lovely dear! I always enjoy your photograhps, you really push the medium.

Since I come from the 3D side of the fence, It cracks me up that everyone thinks 'shes rendered'. Wasnt that long ago that you could barely get a photorealistic model in the rendered way, and now photos are compared to 3D models! Very strange!

And for the record, I dont think shes 'too' skinny, Ive seen your other pictures of her and shes fine. Very pretty, fantastic lighting, great work! I do like how the light seems to not only shine on her, but seems to come from her as well - since it doesnt touch her hair and only her eyes and cheeks.

Just wonderful, grats on the DD ^_^

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fb101 In reply to Starrydance [2005-02-23 07:26:31 +0000 UTC]

Many thanks. I share your comments....

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Yuugure [2005-02-23 03:56:16 +0000 UTC]

Interesting expression on her face. And i love the lighting. I love how it focuses on her face, especially on her eyes. Very good shot

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pro-violence [2005-02-23 03:36:46 +0000 UTC]

Its interesting all the comments that imply that "I could do better" type of attitude. To them I say maybe, but they didnt and you did fb101. DD is nothing more than a popularity contest anyway just like a pageview counter. If thats all certain people are looking for they are in the wrong community or maybe I am in the wrong community. Art to me isnt about pageviews or DD's or even favorites. Its about expressing yourself and letting others see that inside of you. Congradulations on your award I feel it is well deserved you are an amazing photographer and I am still but a student so I shall be watching you in hopes of learning new things.

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fb101 In reply to pro-violence [2005-02-23 03:54:03 +0000 UTC]

I feel like you do, but I have to admit that a DD is an opportunity to have a dialog with interesting people who feel like you do and that it is easy to ignore those who have too different a vision or attitude!

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pro-violence In reply to fb101 [2005-02-23 04:01:44 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment. I imagine you have gotten alot recently. Its very appreciated.

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3yeSore [2005-02-23 02:56:59 +0000 UTC]

shes an angel
the lighting really does the trick and her expresion and pose

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fidget [2005-02-23 02:50:16 +0000 UTC]

This is very nicely done. Is the spot on her face from a snood or is it photoshop work? (the only reason I speculate is because her hair on either side of her face hasn't caught any light) Either way, it is a very interesting effect and I think it makes the photo.

Congrats on your DD!

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fb101 In reply to fidget [2005-02-23 03:25:19 +0000 UTC]

It is a Photoshop work! Congrats, you are very observant...And thanks for stopping by...

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grettir [2005-02-23 02:46:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, we can all see she is thin. So what? Why does this have to be "bad" art if she was anorexic?

I think it is a beautiful photograph, the lighting is very intruiging...make's her look so unreal...awe.

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monkeyfunky [2005-02-23 02:43:54 +0000 UTC]

no chest :tear:

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fb101 In reply to monkeyfunky [2005-02-23 03:31:02 +0000 UTC]

What a critic! Aren't we suppose to talk about the pix, not the model ?

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iceman03 In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 02:36:19 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful work. The lighting is superb, and the model is gorgeous

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tomtom2099 [2005-02-23 02:30:32 +0000 UTC]

Wow.. I love that, The Pose is Superb, if I see her as an Angel as fb101 thinks, I would see as a Confused Angel, without Orientation.. something got lost.. feel different. As I say the Pose, the Arms, marbelous.. The Face looks almost as it would be a Painted Comic.. extrange to tell.. but I am very Captivated about that Shot.. Have to be a +Fav, Well done for u and your Model.

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killgirl In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 02:28:11 +0000 UTC]

let me clarify. she's anorexic and depicted in a way that we're suppose to think its beautiful. i think that's disgusting.

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fb101 In reply to killgirl [2005-02-23 03:34:06 +0000 UTC]

She is NOT anorexic. She eats like you and me. She is skinny and I can't understand why you find this "disgusting...You may not like it, but that's no reason to pass a value judgment....

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killgirl In reply to fb101 [2005-02-23 05:19:27 +0000 UTC]

it absolutely is. this woman, in this picture, at the very least APPEARS anorexic, so it doesn't much matter what she actually is because this is the statement you are making. if you don't value your audiences reaction, that's your problem.

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gothicpaperdoll In reply to killgirl [2005-02-23 09:12:59 +0000 UTC]

look im just skimming through the comments before i make mine but i mean come on, u judging her for her bone structure is the same thing as judging a plus size woman for her broad sholders and hip bones. i do think she looks unbelieveably skinny but is he says she isnt u kno, ill take his word on it. some people, some women can be 95lbs and be completly healthy, and yes i kno i have a nutritionist in the family. it all depends on how ur built, now i kno u said some people dont like that look, some people dont like the look of plus size chics does that mean they should have to suffer too? i kno the feeling, i am tired of seeing a bunch of perfect chics too, but 1 um its their account they can if they want to and 2 u have no control over it just dont look............. im sorry but i just had to say something...........

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killgirl In reply to gothicpaperdoll [2005-02-23 16:30:50 +0000 UTC]

you're missing the point. it's about the message of the photo--i shouldn't have to ask, or find out from the artist that she in fact isnt; the picture portreys her so.

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gothicpaperdoll In reply to killgirl [2005-02-24 03:46:40 +0000 UTC]

well i can tell she isnt by looking at her, i wouldnt have even wanted to ask, i can tell when they are too skinny i think u just hate chics that are skinny and maybe its cause most of em where u live treat u like shit i dunno whatever i have no clue. but i could tell she wast too small sooooo... um yea.

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killgirl In reply to gothicpaperdoll [2005-02-24 15:24:03 +0000 UTC]

and you know, don't make this a personal attack. you haven't a decent argument so you have to try to attack me, personally. just give up!

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killgirl In reply to gothicpaperdoll [2005-02-24 15:23:31 +0000 UTC]

most of them 'where i live' fear me. you are insinuating that i am jealous of them; and i really am not--more so, i am ashamed at hte stigma they believe they have to submit to, and disgusted by the men who encourage them.

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KagomeResurrected In reply to killgirl [2005-02-23 06:21:06 +0000 UTC]

i understand your frustration...
i'm tired of seeing women like this on DA...
and there's NOTHING else, it seems..
*sigh*
her hands look so...large compared to everything else...
but maybe...thats just how she is..?
ONe of my less cynical moments...

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killgirl [2005-02-23 02:27:45 +0000 UTC]

gee, she's anorexic...

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agnosticDeity [2005-02-23 02:24:53 +0000 UTC]

The institution that is The Daily Deviation has reached an all time low. All three people in this room agree.

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fb101 In reply to agnosticDeity [2005-02-23 03:36:51 +0000 UTC]

Whow! THAT is a survey

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Daemonworks [2005-02-23 02:07:03 +0000 UTC]

She's really quite expressive, and has amazing eyes.

Other than that, it looks to me as if the photo was shot bright, and then darkened up except in the face. There's nothing wrong with that, mind you. I'm just curious if I'm right.

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fb101 In reply to Daemonworks [2005-02-23 03:37:33 +0000 UTC]

You are eprfectly right...This is more an illustration than a photo....

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Carthlete In reply to fb101 [2006-08-24 06:44:42 +0000 UTC]

this shot is breathtaking. her features scream "barbie" but the pose and lighting make it darker and deeper than just her apperance. Its not what is displayed in this picture, but more so what is not standing out, that makes this photo so captivating. Brilliant work.

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Rizimar [2005-02-23 01:20:54 +0000 UTC]

Amazing. The eyes just stand out so well. I love her expression as well. Nice work

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stefanobroli In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 01:11:57 +0000 UTC]

What a wanderful shot. Her emotions speaks throw a light mirror..

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AngelHeart49 [2005-02-23 00:57:53 +0000 UTC]

I have to agree with the comment on the lighting perhaps being too dark. It really brings out her eyes, however the effect desired may not be at it's full potential. I was giving some more thought to this piece after I looked at it yesterday, and I was also wondering what other poses you could take advantage of. Her self-embracing pose gives an interesting dimension to a piece that is suposed to be a "dialogue". I really saw what perhaps what you wanted to portray with it, but also wanted a little more to happen in terms of lighting. Maybe in the future even some digital play could be used for a fun turn. Altogether a lovely work.

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fb101 In reply to AngelHeart49 [2005-02-23 03:40:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you have suggestions, I am always open. But I have to confess that the light on the face is already a digital trick....

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AngelHeart49 In reply to fb101 [2005-02-23 09:07:02 +0000 UTC]

I see...lol Well, that is quite alright. I was just throwing some ideas in the pot. I was thinking more along the lines of wings...or overlays...color experiments.
P.S. I'm really enjoying most all of your work. Your models are perfect.

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NoirAngel In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 00:55:05 +0000 UTC]

really lovely.. how old are she?...
she look like a sad girl.. but in same time not...
something is....

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fb101 In reply to NoirAngel [2005-02-23 03:42:26 +0000 UTC]

She is 23....

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NoirAngel In reply to fb101 [2005-02-23 11:16:30 +0000 UTC]

oh okay.. she is really beautiful...

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SykotikKittin In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 00:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Very cool lighting. How old is the ?

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fe4rless [2005-02-23 00:33:41 +0000 UTC]

It appears that her hands are just, huge. I know it's the angle. Great shot and lovely model. Wonderful work.

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StefTastan [2005-02-23 00:28:36 +0000 UTC]

wow, when I looked at the thumbnail, she looked like she was a rendered character o.o;; ish so pretty

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AngelsCrySilent In reply to ??? [2005-02-23 00:19:53 +0000 UTC]

She looks like an angel without her wings...perhaps staring into the light where she should be..or yearning for it.
At first I thought she wasn't real either..but that's a good thing for this one in an odd way...
And those eyes are captivating...how they glow from the lighting, along with her face. Beautiful.

Congratulations, you desrve it.

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fb101 In reply to AngelsCrySilent [2005-02-23 03:45:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your comments. I did see the pix as a dialogue between an angel and the sky abocve....

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AngelsCrySilent In reply to fb101 [2005-02-23 12:41:29 +0000 UTC]

And you captured it beautifully I must say.

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esprix [2005-02-22 22:56:07 +0000 UTC]

I was just scrolling along today, and I saw this picture in the DD. Normally, I wouldn't click pictures of half naked women, but this time, I just had to see because for some reason, she looked a lot like a cged picture. Even up close! Then I looked at it again, she was real. I read some of the comments, and they were very harsh. D:

Personally, I love this picture because of the simplicity. I don't understand why everyone's complaining about her body being "dull". I think the main idea of this photograph is to focus on her face and not her body. I think the lighting is beautiful.

Sorry about writing this long, boring comment. Great job. ;3

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fb101 In reply to esprix [2005-02-23 03:46:15 +0000 UTC]

This was a good, sincere and interesting comment. I agree with everything you wrote...Many thanks....

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djog In reply to ??? [2005-02-22 22:45:01 +0000 UTC]

The light in her face looks awesome, beautiful eyes

Congratulations

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