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Agreed; Trump is an egomaniacal captialistic racist kleptocrat like most Republicans, but to the extreme end of the scale - so sad.
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And I'm a conservative that doesn't like him. Because of his Twitter and him.being childish
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Regardless of opinion, this needs to be reported to DA's staff.
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sirweeb and other smart people u can't negotiate wth nazis like fallendragonwolf and smokey. The only thing u do to stop haters like them is put a bullet through their nazi heads like we did to the nazis in ww2 and to jollyjack please post this pic and other anti trump stuff to your furafinnity page the nazi mods and dragoneer need to be taken down a few pegs especialy rabbi-tom aka jewish uncle ruckus from the boondocks he loves to suck nazi dick
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Please shut up. You are advocating totalitarian behavior, which is what was the staple of Nazis and Fascists, and with it confirming yourself to be exactly what extreme right wing propaganda want to paint the left as. Basically, you show yourself to have more in common with FallenDragonWolf, than anyone else in this comment section.
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The far left is as authoritarian as the far right, honestly. Extremists of any ilk are bad
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My, my... aren't you violent.
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People seem to be getting more and more unhinged over politics, especially on the radical left. It's kind of scary.
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Oh yeah. But, one is definitely more numerous and a nuisance than the other.
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Lol it's very persuasive.
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Could say the same for your country everytime the rape grooming gangs gets mentioned. The mental gymnastics is awesome when you actively defend them. We dont need to prove anything to you as reality is on our side. All you're doing is dismissing and yelling in an echo chamber while the rest of us our tired of the lefts antics and empty promises. I know you'll dismiss anything I'll say because your ego matters more than the truth.
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When did I ever defend them? In fact, since it finally came to light, when has anyone ever defend them?
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Keep doubling down, Jack. You and everybody Left of center. It didn't work during the election cycle, but, hey, maybe it'll work, now. I mean, come on: how accurate can the Einsteinian definition of insanity be, right?
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I like it when you ask Trump Supporters if Obama or Bill Clinton had done any of these actions, if they'd support them.
...I never get a 'yes' or 'no'....just a long drawn out explanation of why it's okay for Trump to do these things.
Like, if Obama or Clinton had said "I prefer people who aren't captured". What would have been your response. Or "grab them by the pussy". Or that there were "some very fine people on both sides". Or had sided with Russia over our own Intelligence Agencies. Or when said to just take the guns away from people and then, after judicial proceedings, return them (www.cnn.com/videos/politics/20… ).
Plain and simple, if a Democrat had done what Trumps done, 'you people' would have trampled the WH fence and dragged them out of the place.
...Party loyalty will be the downfall of this nation.
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Like, if Obama or Clinton had said "I prefer people who aren't captured".
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not) but didn't Chris Rock make that exact same joke in the same show he buttonholed for Barak Obama? Why, yes, I believe he did; and nobody cared about poor old John McCain, then on the Left: when he was running against Obama.
"Grab 'em by the pussy." is just a bad joke that's ten years old. Do you want to know what I think of a joke that's over a decade old? Meh. It doesn't imply anything in its full context, which is, and I quote, "AND WHEN YOU'RE FAMOUS THEY LET YOU DO IT." Some women are gold diggers and groupies, who knew? Every band on the planet who's ever had a record deal, that's who.
"Some very fine people on both sides.' I love how the fact that a communist anarchist group, labeled domestic terrorists and reportedly backed by George Soros, demonstrating a foreign investor sabotaging American politics by breaking the law, doesn't enter into this conversation. Yes: not everyone one either side of that conflict were necessarily Stalinists or the Third Reich. Shockingly, there's nuance, and he acknowledged it for BOTH sides; but, apparently, you can only hear "on both sides" and think of one side. Interesting.
"Or had sided with Russia over our own Intelligence Agencies." Uh, considering the damning text history suggesting the CIA and FBI hated him and were conspiring to, um, "nudge" Hilary to victory, after the Commie scandal--his wife being a Hilary shill and pressuring him to absolve her-- yeah: I'd say there's a dreadful lot of context that you, evidently, either don't know, or don't care to mention, for some reason. I will happily give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's the former.
"Or when said to just take the guns away from people and then, after judicial proceedings, return them." See, there, you have a point.
"Plain and simple, if a Democrat had done what Trumps done, 'you people' would have trampled the WH fence and dragged them out of the place."
Spoken by someone demonstrating a likely dearth of literacy in American politics before 1990, or 2015. Obama dropped more bombs in his first year than any President in U.S. history: do you really want to go down the list of his atrocities? Because I think they more than surpass Trump being boorish and stubborn with a fractious and partisan-crazed State Department. The instances you bring up.
"...Party loyalty will be the downfall of this nation."
We're not a nation, sir/madame. We're a union of nations. Hence, the United States plural. Read the last paragraph of the Declaration, and the first paragraph of the federal Constitution, where it's referred to as "the Constitution FOR the United States", not "of".
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Last I checked, Chris Rock wasn't running for the 'seat of leadership' of the nation. There's a big difference when a songwriter says something and when THE PRESIDENT [to be at the time] says it.
So...you're saying Trump, the "leader of the free world" shouldn't be held to a higher standard?
Again, last I checked, only racist eugenicist would want to protest WITH neo-Nazis. - Oh, and lets not forget he couldn't IMMEDIATELY condemn KKK, neo-Nazi, and other hate groups following Charlottesville, and only FINALLY condemned them after both Democrats and Republicans pressured him into doing so. Doesn't matter about "gathering facts"; yes or no. Do you support the KKK? You shouldn't even hestitate..."NO, I DO NOT SUPPORT THEM!"
Hmm, believe an "elected" dictator or...reports from every single one of my Intelligence agencies....ya, I'm still going to believe them over other nation that historically has worked to undermine the US.
Obama wasn't perfect, never claimed he was. But, he didn't actively drive a wedge between us an our allies, while VOCALLY supporting authoritarians. - I'm sure there was backdoor deals.
Each sitting President should be judged by their actions, not the actions of previous ones. I'm saying people are supporting Trump and his actions mostly because he has an "(R)" next to his name. If it was a "(D)", then I would still be here complaining, but the 'other half-ish' of the nation would be saying it's all fine and dandy, while the 'other other half-ish' demands his removal.
I stand by "Party loyalty will be the downfall of this nation [of States]".
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It's not a nation of states, it's a federation of States. A federal republic. A state is a country:
"political organization of a country, supreme civil power, government," c. 1300, from special use of state (n.1); this sense grew out of the meaning "condition of a country" with regard to government, prosperity, etc. (late 13c.), from Latin phrases such as status rei publicæ "condition (or existence) of the republic."
www.etymonline.com/word/state
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce.... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."
James Madison, The author of the Bill of Rights and 4th President of the United States. Federalist Papers #45
"This was not lost on the founding generation. John Adams (Co-writer of the Declaration, ambassador for the Treaty of Paris, and President #2) once wrote that, “I expressly say that Congress is not a representative body but a diplomatic body, a collection of ambassadors from thirteen sovereign States….” tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/… books.google.com/books?id=pw20…
Your politics are always going to be backwards if you don't even understand your civic identity. You don't know even know what you are: you are a citizen of a country united to a bunch of other sovereign countries; who gave an originally VERY limited central government THEY authored a tiny-ass list of things it could do, followed by an even more express list of things it flatly couldn't do; followed by a fat, blatant limitation on its powers courtesy of the 10th amendment, which asserted the States' sovereign supremacy over the central government period. Knowing the state of the Union is crucial, because diplomats do not address countries the same as a bunch of schmoes who all think America is one big happy family. We're not. We're a bunch of disparate culture united under a single idea of self-government.
"Each sitting President should be judged by their actions, not the actions of previous ones. "
Each sitting President so far this century and the 20th should be tried for treason and hung for violating their oaths of office, to protect the Constitution for the United States.
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These are States, not nations. You may think they are, but they aren't; the Civil War established that.
Oh and about that treason...ya...this nation was founded by slave owners, so...this entire nation/collection of states/what ever the fuck you want to call it was never 'For the people'. - Meaning the very first president violated the Constitution.
EDIT: Also, this should technically be the North American Union...it's pretty much exactly like the EU.
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No, it did not, and that's an authoritarian argument. 'I won, so you're my slave!' States do not surrender their capacity to be free and independent, to government by consent of the governed (referring to citizens of that State): that's what the Declaration of Independence plainly states in its last paragraph (perhaps you should read it instead of just skimming everything after the first one). I don't "think" they are, sport. I know it, because it's the founding principal of this Union.
The constitution refers to citizens. Slaves aren't citizens. False argument. Your literacy in American civics is so transparently juvenile and convenient and fallacious, you should frankly be embarrassed to be talking about it.
"The People" was used because the Philadelphia Convention's delegates were not a legislative body. They had to go through the STATES, each sovereign government choosing to ratify or reject the proposed Constitution, because the States are the ultimate authority, not Washington (which is WHY the Constitution was ratified through State governments, and not popular fiat); and that is clear and transparent in the 10th Amendment and the 5th Article, the latter of which states, plain as day, that the States can and will convene, if inclined, to a States' Convention, wherein they may draft Constitutional Legislation to be ratified exclusively by their own governments, and with NO federal legislative nor federal judicial nor federal executive input whatsoever. And that Article has never been touched. Proving, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the States run this bitch, not the other way around. You can't get more in-convertible than the 5th fucking Article, because it's the self-destruct button. Once it's pressed, nobody can stop the States from making and ratifying a new Constitution, because that's what they did the first time.
Then you don't know the EU, you don't know the U.S. Constitution, let alone the sovereign States and their Constitutions, which are even more important under the 10th Amendment and the 5th Article of the federal Constitution.
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And who decided who was a slave? And how about women? "The People" didn't include giving equal rights to women, who couldn't even fucking vote till 1920! Or are you going to say that women weren't citizens either?
That only white men where?
Which, when you think about it, is fucking hilarious, because the purported reason for the whole damn Revolutionary War was because the Colonialist were tired of the British Empire telling them what to do, *and treating them as second-class citizens*; along with excessive taxation and general dickery on the part of The Crown. So, what did they do with their new-found independence? ...continue the cycle of oppression by keeping Slaves slaves, and women as 'second class citizens'.
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The Civil War established who wears the pants. Plain and simple. If you want to believe otherwise, that's fine.
The first state to get 'uppity' will see the National Guard sent in to "pacify" the situation. Not that that will ever actually happen. As Carlin once said, this nation was bought and paid for a long time ago.
Take legal weed. The states should be the ones deciding if they want it allowed or not. NOPE! The feds say it's illegal and can bust people in Colorado if they wanted to. The only way to challenge that would be in Supreme Court...which is about to tip towards Republican-favor. - While they claim to love small Government, they sure do like to keep the control it currently has.
The Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper these days. States won't challenge the Feds because the Feds will just cut off the federal aid (aka allowance).
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Anyways, I'm checking out on this. Even though I know it'll feed your ego that you "won the argument". I frankly just don't care enough to keep this up.
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So much bullshit, soooo little space to obliterate it all; but, hey, that's what journals are for, am I right?
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Dude please, I didn't bring enough burn ointment for this conversation. Like it'll mean anything,Jollyjack will just make more of these dumb pictures and just with his pants down run around "IM THE BEST BECAUSE MY POLITICAL PARTY TOLD ME SO!" Then again it's funny he doesn't at all bring up about his own country's businesses and politicians that actively dealt with Russia way more than anyone over here and heavily ignoring every wrong thing the EU has done to Britain. Im an American and even I know what's more wrong with Britain telling Us we're the awful people when at least I don't have soldiers on the streets here being beheaded in public while everyone sit's back and watches.. If 'were such a bad nation why do millions still strive hard to move to the USA and not the UK? why is it only whiney upper class liberals that bitch how bad the USA is when they heavily ignore the over 1 trillion dollars in student debts that put the young adults in debt thanks to high liberal society entrapping people into literal loan schemes? I could go on and on but Jollyjack is just gonna ignore us and come up with a logical reason (at least for him) as to why we're the losers.
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Alright. Lot to pick through here, with limmited time. Firstly, Jollyjack is from the UK, and he isn't with the democratic party, as that is only in the US, along with the republican party, and secondly, the image above isn't about what party won, or what policy they have. It is his view of the reflection of political commentaries that he has gotten over his satire pieces.
He does address some of the things that the UK is doing politically too, and he is far from painting it in a good light (See his drawing about the BBC kissing the government's toes). However, the circus that have come out of America these last years have very heavily obscured what other countries might be doing, which is a crying shame. And yes, it does matter to the international community when it is about foreign affairs.
As for the EU, I don't know Jollyjack's official stance on the subject, but neither do I know much about what it might have done towards the UK in particular. I do know there is a lot of controversies over Brexit, and that there were a lot of lies thrown about, along with a lot of regret afterwards. However, if you think that the US don't have soldiers on the street when there have been a terrorist attack, then you are mistaken. Just as you are, if you believe that people are being beheaded in public in the UK.
As for the millions that still strive to enter the US, that is easy to explain. USA is a super state. Meaning, it consist of territories large enough to cover half a continent. Basically the size of 50 states (countries). Meaning, there is room for people there. On the other side of the coin, is the UK, which is smaller than a lot of the states in the US. While still having a substantial population.
When it comes to your comment about student loan dept issue, I am not quite sure what you mean though. I have heard of the issue in the US, but not when it comes to the UK. I'm not going to deny that there is a dept issue in the UK mind you, but from what I can gather from your words, is that you are arguing for a regulated economical market, that would limit whom could and could not take out a loan. Now, I'm not saying that I disagree with you on that point, if it is indeed what you mean, but it sort of goes in the face of the assumption that the start of your post left me with, seeing as that is a more left wing economical move than a right wing. Basically conservative left.
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We are, if Trump is the prize. To me, he's just another socialist, and the proof is in his policies or lack thereof. He had all the power to dissolve Obamacare, did he do it? No. He has all the power to reform social security, to roll it back or bump up the age of retirement by a decade (so at least the elderly don't live ten years on welfare plus), and has he done it? No. He gloats about this tax cuts, but what about the oh-so unconstitutional income tax? Is he going to touch that? Is he going to introduce a flat tariff of 10%? I voted for the guy (for lack of better options to stop Hilary) based on his tax plan, which passed muster with the Kato and Misses institutes, and for a much-deserved and belated crack down on illegal immigration. He seemed the most reticent of the Reps to go to war, that was also appealing; as well as the fact that, unlike Hilary, he didn't pledge to let in 5 million Syrians into the Union. After the shit show they turned Scandinavia into, I deemed this a wise decision.
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Oh man, the irony on display here is magical.
Please, never stop making these.
Most genuine enjoyment I've ever gotten out of your art.
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Oh look, more whataboutisms. *yawn*
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Eh... last time I looked Antifa and their leftist allies do not wear MAGA hats. And no one else is trying to avoid discussions about reality and how things actually are instead of how very much we wish they were. And, oh, how they like to just state things without ANY proof and discussion ("pink tax", "gender pay gap", "families torn horribly apart at the borders", the state of Democrat ruled cities like Detroit / Chicago, migrant crime, Afrikaaners not being murdered by the black majority in South Africa and worrying about it being an white supremicist issue).
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Whataboutisms never win an argument.
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I see what you did there.
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lol. I appreciate your sense of humor.
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someones been watching to much CNN
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"someones been watching to much Fox" Fixed it for ya
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fox has a few issues but its a much better source than CNN and the BBC which have been proven to be fake news outlets
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We'll have to disagree on that.. fox has been caught lying quite a bit.. the majority of their stuff is opinion pieces disguised as news.. and they never admit when they are wrong
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most of the main stream media cant be trusted, its proven most of them are in the same circle and lie constantly and stage news
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At least Fox gives him a chance. No body else will.
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It's like everyone but me had their memories wiped after 2016: Fox hhhhated him until he was the only Republican left standing. He was like a Kaiju, the more nuclear waste you threw at him the strong and bigger he got; but, that was the Left's favorite arrow in their quiver so, hey, why not shoot it over and over and over and over and over again, right?
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