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MakingFunOfStuffHow Not to Tell a Story
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Description After being on DeviantArt for a few years now, I've noticed patterns in people's stories. Patterns, that I can't say I've ever seen until I started using the internet. I believe that's because these kind of patterns are thoroughly unprofessional. The pattern in short is this:

Character = victim
Plot = bad things happening to said victim

Maybe this sounds harsh. It's not if you understand that is ALL there is to these stories. They take any character, hurl them into a tragedy and that's it.

Let's get this straight: We do not know your character well enough to care about them yet. No matter how bloody and gutty their injuries are, no matter how many of their family members are deceased, no matter what their boyfriend did to them, no matter what kind of disease they have, WE. DO. NOT. CARE!!!!!
These kind of things are sad in themselves, but WHO is this person we're supposed to feel so horrible for? Establish THAT. It should be your absolute FIRST priority: no exceptions.

No more pasting faces onto the same cardboard-cut-out sob story protagonist.
If you want readers to care, you must FIRST GIVE THEM A HUMAN BEING TO CARE FOR.


If you don't, yes of course you are still going to get comments from emotional people who find your story intriguing. That is not the point.
The absolute WORST thing you can do is (I hate saying this), taking comments from people on the internet seriously (about your writing, that is).
People who have no CLUE about literature will post comments on the most unprofessional writings and say things like, "This made me cry. You are like the next J.K Rowling."
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THINGS LIKE TWILIGHT AND 50 SHADES OF GREY POSSIBLE.

All I'm saying is that if you think things like Twilight are insults to literature, I beg you to take the advice given above. If not, what can I say but: carry on. Let the age of Mary Sue begin.

We need to remember: a rich story is made up of so much more than only one element; it can't rely only on being "dark," or "tragic" or "romantic." These things are for bringing out emotion. It's ESSENTIAL that there is something worth being emotional ABOUT.
That is how you tell a beautiful story.

And even then, if you give us something we truly care about, you'll realize "I can make something even less tragic happen and it will have a much greater effect now."
Sometimes you'll even realize that being subtle is even more disturbing and "dark" than going all out.

I said it before, I'll say it again: drama is the anti-suspense. Drama needs something to feed on or else it is dead.
It's up to you to make casual, every-day scenes interesting too.
Humor is a particularly wonderful tool for making characters appealing. The more appealing the character, the more the audience will care when they suffer.

Think of your favorite cartoon character. Now imagine if they died. Not a funny, cartoon-ish death where we know that they'll be all right again in three seconds.
Pretend they came to a permanent end that was actually portrayed very tragically and non-sarcastically.
Kind of leaves you with a disturbed feeling, doesn't it? If this is the way you want your audience to feel about your characters, then follow this example. It doesn't mean your character has to be as silly as a cartoon character, it just means we should feel like we know them in such a way that we can feel their pain.


In short: don't give us another card-board soap opera. Give us something to love.
No more "I'm going to drench this character in blood and my story will automatically be deep!" If that's as deep as you can get, you must be very shallow indeed.


EDIT: CLARIFICATION

I'm saying that introducing the character should be first *priority,* not necessarily the first thing in the story. The point being, don't write a story that you worry about the character second to the soap opera.
Of course many stories (Harry Potter included) start off with bad things happening. This is because they're crucial to setting up the entire story. The point is not to expect your audience to be scandalized yet.

Also, when you read this guide, assume I'm talking about writing seriously. I'm not picking on those of you writing for practice/fun/etc.
This is a concern because things like this are being published these days. If this isn't your goal, carry on by all means.

I posted this because it's getting to the point where there is no unique style. This is the style that most beginners (and therefore most people) tend to use. I'm not picking on beginners, just pointing out not to settle with the first, most obvious style of writing that no one encourages them to grow beyond.
Are there people who enjoy this kind of writing? Of course. But why is it all we should be content with?

The attitude should be something like this: make the character deep enough for whatever you're writing.
If it's a short deviation, naturally less so than in a novel.
Same if it's not the point of the thing you're writing (say you're just trying to bring out a moral or something).
However, if you expect to write a sob story this is highly important.
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Comments: 424

SpookyChick1013 In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:33:35 +0000 UTC]

Is there a reason to ignore the fact that twilight and 50 shades of grey (purpousely non-capitalised) were successful? Yes! They were poorly written tripe.

That said, the author of the above rant does have a point. There is far too much "victim porn" cardboard cut-out tragedy fiction on the internet. I'm not going to vent my spleen about it, as he's already done an adequate if preliminary job of discussing it.

Nobody said anything about ignoring the comments of your fans. If there is anyone around here whose ego could stand to be bumped down a few notches though, it would be you. If you find yourself immediately feeling defensive about this, maybe you need to take a long look in the mirror. Otherwise, chill out, move on. Just my recommendation.

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dagoth-jeff In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-09 22:09:46 +0000 UTC]

Again, "poorly written tripe" is just an opinion. I'm not even a fan, hell I dislike them, but I won't sit here and talk about them like they didn't amount to anything. Obviously it worked out to some degree and I doubt the authors took amateur advice on how to write.

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SpookyChick1013 In reply to dagoth-jeff [2013-06-09 22:36:44 +0000 UTC]

Maybe they should have taken some advice, whether amateur or professional, either one. Certainly it made loads of cash for the publisher. So what. The books were marketed mercilessly and THAT is the only reason for their commercial success. Making a crapload of money does not validate a piece of work. A copralite (piece of fecolith) which sells for 100,000 pounds sterling through Christie's is still at the end of the day, a piece of shit.

The point of the article was not however, advice to THOSE authors, it was advice to the amateurs and beginners here on DA; advice intended to counter a horrid problem with the way people tell stories. It looks however, as if you may have lost the point and focus of the article, because you have conflated commercial success with inherent value. See above for exempli gratis.

Publishing companies are dying anyway as a result of the internet making self-publishing a real and profitable possibility which actually pays the author more than a five percent royalty. It amazes me people defend the publishing companies considering how shady their practices are, and how many ground-breaking authors never make it because of the publishers.

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dagoth-jeff In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-09 22:45:05 +0000 UTC]

Your big words are impressive but it's still a set of instructions on how to write. Unfortunately we all don't write the same way, so none of it really matters, does it? What you and the author has in common is that you both really hate the above-mentioned works, which still doesn't make a lot of sense here. Fine, so you disagree with their styles, so what. You're broke and bitter, and they're rich and that is the name of the game. Are you a struggling writer with some personal issues? Why don't you go write about it instead of sounding like a psychopath. The point to better writing is success (note the above mentioned authors) so what the hell are you even bitching about.

Maybe I should get a DD because I choose to complain about crappy artwork; I'll just lay out some instructions that say something along the lines of you want to be a better artist? Stop drawing My Little Ponies. Especially if you're a male.

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SpookyChick1013 In reply to dagoth-jeff [2013-06-10 01:05:47 +0000 UTC]

Actually, no. I'm not broke and bitter. My bills are paid, and we manage to put a little by for art supplies and continuing education, which any successful artist or writer should be engaging in, IMO.

"They're rich." ZOMG! News flash! Who cares? Being rich "is the name of the game?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Not hardly, chap.

NO, the point of better writing is communication. What am I bitching about? Someone like you going into full douche mode simply because someone called out a couple of crap-quality best sellers as what they are.

Struggling writer, no. Personal issues? None that apply here!
Sounding like a psychopath? WTF? The only psychopathic behaviour I see here is yours. Yes, I'm calling you on your crap.

I guess you've shown your true trollish colours at last. I think the problem here is that you are compensating for something by tearing down others, especially those who have a larger vocabulary, better writing skills, or just get picked for recognition by the DA staff. I respectfully suggest that you build yourself and your skills up, instead of trashing and trolling on others and their efforts.

I highly doubt you'll get a DD by trashing and trolling. Try being supportive of people in the community. Try passing on knowledge. Try teaching. Try actually contributing and producing something. Be constructive.
Anyway, I've nothing further to say to you, because it's time to stop feeding the trolls, and I have better things to do with my time like spending a lovely evening with my wife. Yes, we're lesbians. You'll likely have a cow over that as well. Whatever. I wish you great success in finding help with self-improvement.

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dagoth-jeff In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-10 01:13:30 +0000 UTC]

You've seriously got a barbed stick way up your ass. Thanks for the decent conversation, you're such an excellent teacher. I'm sure you'll be quite the icon someday from defending this amateur hour.

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SpookyChick1013 In reply to dagoth-jeff [2013-06-10 01:31:34 +0000 UTC]

Who hurt you, and caused you to be such a sad, bitter person, so obsessed with riches and fame? Did you get rejected by a publisher? Did you have a contract and lose it because your muse left? Did someone in your past trash your work? Genuine questions motivated by compassion.

Maybe you need to take a good look in the mirror, and seriously reassess your self, and your life, and your choices.

Either way, Chill Out, and Move On.

By the way, If I truly had a barbed stick up my arse, I would be reporting you to the admins for your last two comments. However, I shan't because I don't happen to be into anal play or blood play, and most certainly not the two combined. Therefore, no stick, barbed or otherwise in my arse.

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dagoth-jeff In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-10 01:34:27 +0000 UTC]

You win, I don't have the energy anymore.

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Rohvannyn In reply to dagoth-jeff [2013-06-10 01:29:25 +0000 UTC]

To dagoth-jeff:

Meanwhile, you are only succeeding in making yourself look like a giant jerk. I don't even see why this is so important that you feel the need to belittle others in this way. Not only the original author, but your fellow deviants.

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dagoth-jeff In reply to Rohvannyn [2013-06-10 01:33:32 +0000 UTC]

pffft, I'm not bashing "fellow deviants." I just don't understand the need for this; instructions on how to write (or how not to?) We're not all one and the same, that's what makes writing interesting at times. People new to it are still full of great ideas, it can come from anywhere, unexpectedly. I'm just struggling with the concept of 1)instructions and 2)that I need to agree that successful franchises out there were "crap."
Yo.

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Ramones-MLP In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-09 20:50:39 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I agree with you. BTW, this guy is a hyper-sarcastic troll who goes around and bashes a ton of DDs. Don't pay him too much mind.

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SpookyChick1013 In reply to Ramones-MLP [2013-06-09 21:13:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I won't rent him headspace for his garage-band. >flies away in LOL-wing starfighter<

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Ramones-MLP In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-09 22:01:48 +0000 UTC]

Wait, do a barrel roll!!

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SpookyChick1013 In reply to Ramones-MLP [2013-06-09 22:37:39 +0000 UTC]

Sure! :barrel-LOL: LOL!

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Ramones-MLP In reply to SpookyChick1013 [2013-06-10 19:59:47 +0000 UTC]

The never ending puns

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Willowwish14 In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 16:03:10 +0000 UTC]

I don't think this guy was trying to be insulting... Or egotistic. They're just trying to make a point, you don't have to agree. If you feel this is inaccurate, then just ignore it. The sarcasm was a little rude, but I understand where you're coming from. I think this person was just trying to help.

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dagoth-jeff In reply to Willowwish14 [2013-06-09 22:11:04 +0000 UTC]

Trying to help by tossing opinions out there, LOL. It just doesn't blend well with the whole wannabe-professional-looking-amateur advice column that you guys are all drooling over. It's the same thing as discussing our favorite colors.

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Rohvannyn In reply to dagoth-jeff [2013-06-10 01:30:00 +0000 UTC]

Help. You are trying to help. Go serve at a soup kitchen because you are failing here.

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Willowwish14 In reply to dagoth-jeff [2013-06-10 00:17:57 +0000 UTC]

.....well ok then. Sort of, I guess... Lol^_^

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AdvancedDefense [2013-06-09 15:31:25 +0000 UTC]

The only storyline I can think off the top of my head that's made by me and starts with a sort of tragedy, is the Little Show of Horrors series.
It began with a human named Ermengayle who's on a witch trial because her so-called friends accused her of being a witch, in order to save their own skins. She was then burned to death because of it, and it was then revealed that the events were all a nightmare of Erika the Witch's, who is Ermengayle's direct descendant.
This nightmare was basically a traumatic experience coming up in the young witch's subconscious due to her retaining her memories of her past human life. And this scene was there to help establish Erika's reasons for being anti-social. This starts her character arc of overcoming the trauma and becoming a more social person by doing so.
...This isn't going too far, is it?

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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to AdvancedDefense [2013-06-09 22:00:13 +0000 UTC]

If an author is using tragic things to set up a story, that's perfectly fine. It only becomes a problem when the story doesn't offer anything else. That way it becomes shallow.

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blessedarrow In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 15:30:15 +0000 UTC]

Reading this made me remember that time when me and my boyfriend watched Eragon (neither of us have read the book) And it was TERRIBLE. Because in the very beginning the protagonist's.. I think they were his aunt and uncle, died in a horrible way and they show you the kid crying for 5 minutes... and we didn't care, at all!. And then later on he meets a guy who I didn't trust completely because he seemed "too good" so I was expecting him to betray the kid and instead of that he died. The kid cried for another 10 minutes and the music was devastatingly sad. And I sat there like "Oh, he was good after all. Meh." So in short that movie has a lot of what you're talking about here.
Notice that I'm talking about the movie and not the book bc I have not read it, maybe the book doesn't make those mistakes.

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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to blessedarrow [2013-06-09 22:02:22 +0000 UTC]

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blessedarrow In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-06-10 13:47:12 +0000 UTC]

Me too I saw it like 5 years ago, but I remember that just as it ended my bf and I looked at eachother and bursted laughing XD
And then we spent like 2 hours discussing why the movie sucked so much XD

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Silentss [2013-06-09 15:30:09 +0000 UTC]

Here's my opinion : Agreed, and this is one of my reasons why i don't like most of the nowadays stories. They are all looking the SAME, seems like the stories were being produced in a factory with the same patterns and the only differences are the characters appearances(hair, ornaments, etc) but the essences of the character are still pretty much or even mostly the same. Honestly... i'm bored.. oh and also, for me, MORALS of the stories are IMPORTANT. a Story must have something to tell to the audiences(Purposes of the story). Most of the stories out there now are just hollow writings with glitters on it.

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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Silentss [2013-06-09 22:07:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... or maybe instead of a big moral, a lot of little morals and points to think about as it goes along. I agree with you, that's why I'm not a big fan of the Hunger Games for example. It's just about a bunch of people making bad decisions and nobody does anything about it (well, too much of it for my liking, anyway). Katniss did some brave things, but a lot of the time she was really selfish and shallow and was never called out for it. It was bland that way. I can think of a lot of other books like that too, so I see where you're coming from.

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Silentss In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-06-10 02:15:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah i just don't get the emotion/ feelings of the stories or even characters.
that's why when i'm going to movies and book store, the first thing i will be asking is the director or the writer.

i miss the old movies and stuffs.

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Asratheil In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 15:23:19 +0000 UTC]

Very good article. I find it interesting that it is common for writers to start head first in the "action". I find this jarring and just like your article points out - why should I care if I do not know these characters? It would be nice to see more writings where the characters are introduced and we find a reason to care about them. I don't entirely agree on action starts. But mystery and intrigue can make a good start in my opinion, just not bloody battles and people dying willy-nilly.

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MakingFunOfStuff In reply to Asratheil [2013-06-09 22:11:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, like I said though, it's not that bad things can't *happen* first, just that they shouldn't be first *priority,* especially if the story IS a tragedy and we want people to be sad. The best way to accomplish that is obviously by giving them something to care about. If bad things happen at first to set up the story, that's different than expecting people to really care the way they would when they do know the characters.

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Asratheil In reply to MakingFunOfStuff [2013-06-11 02:54:09 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. I miss the good old beginnings where they lead up to something good.

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Rohvannyn In reply to Asratheil [2013-06-09 16:50:05 +0000 UTC]

Asrathell, I believe it's because many folk are addicted to "in medias res". Although it can be a very effective way of getting you into the story, I believe it must be done carefully.

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Asratheil In reply to Rohvannyn [2013-06-11 02:53:33 +0000 UTC]

I don't really know what "medias res" means. Even many publishers seem to want action starts first, whatever happened to the good old days where they led up to the action?

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Rohvannyn In reply to Asratheil [2013-06-11 08:47:43 +0000 UTC]

It's okay! "In Medias Res" is where you start the story in the middle, then go back to the beginning, then tell how it ends. Simple example: Story starts with looking for her dog which is lost. You go back to tell how she got her dog in the first place. She finds her dog at the end. Some feel it's a good way to dump the reader right into the action. I think if you do it, you should give some details in the middle of the action so the reader knows why they should care.

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Asratheil In reply to Rohvannyn [2013-06-13 01:04:10 +0000 UTC]

Yes, publishers seem to be too caught up with these "Medias Res" starts and it's such a shame, because normal beginnings are just as good! Thank you for explaining it!

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organicvision In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 15:05:09 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the advice, sometimes I feel like writing but I don't know where to start.
What you say here makes good sense even if there are 2 or 3 grammar errors.(I'm an English teacher) I have always loved photography ever since I heard a picture is worth a thousand words but sometimes I feel that words could contribute in another dimension. Maybe you have lit up something that has always been so latent. Thank you!

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Elskerr In reply to organicvision [2013-06-09 15:11:11 +0000 UTC]

You made a few grammar errors yourself ^^'

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organicvision In reply to Elskerr [2013-06-09 15:55:25 +0000 UTC]

Yes I found one because of the expression "a picture is..." reported to "was" so I missed the quotation marks and other punctuation errors ;, (bad habits on DA)
The ones you made I correct almost everyday. Do you see them?

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Elskerr In reply to organicvision [2013-06-09 17:20:31 +0000 UTC]

No actually, may I ask what was incorrectly typed?

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organicvision In reply to Elskerr [2013-06-09 18:13:43 +0000 UTC]

Don't get me wrong; Your message was well itterated and I agree with you on most points.
You have a little problem with your plural forms though.

e.g. "these kind of patterns"(kinds)"These kind of things are sad..."
They take any character, hurl them (him or her or characters)
...character well enough to care about them...


Kind of leaves you with a disturbed feeling... (disturbing)

...don't write a story that you worry...(where you worry)

These are just a few little examples that mark you as a nonnative speaker that are easily corrected.

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Elskerr In reply to organicvision [2013-06-09 19:10:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I didn't write the article. I just saw what you said and thought to knock down your pride a bit. So those were not my mistakes.

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organicvision In reply to Elskerr [2013-06-09 21:16:16 +0000 UTC]

So you might agrere with what I said?
By the way check out my gallery

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Gryffgirl In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 14:37:54 +0000 UTC]

Amen. Thanks for this guide, it will be very helpful to me and to other writers who want to avoid falling into the bathos/cliche trap. Congratulations on your DD!

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abi-m In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 14:25:26 +0000 UTC]

So true. Finally someone saying it. It has come to most of what we find is the same-like plot in every type of storytelling, from comics, to literature, (oh and don't let me start with all those 'I wanna be a BL mangaka, here is my OC... and then all the same all over again) At least to me is sickening to see kind of the same over and over again while browsing

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OtterAndTerrier In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 14:25:00 +0000 UTC]

Well my friend, that's a really well-deserved DD for bringing light to this matter!
Have you ever read Umberto Eco's work about bad taste and kitsch? He talks about kitsch as something that presents to the audience with nothing than effect and digested emotion, telling them exactly how to feel. I think that's what these kind of stories aim to do. The thing is, everyone thinks they can write anything and be rich and famous on writing because things like Twilight and 50 Shades are popular, and making their authors rich and famous. I'm not against people writing, at all, but not everyone has the talent to write something good, original or that creates something special, as not everyone is talented at art, or sports, or... medicine! And yet, we all have the right to try, obviously, and publish our work if we can. But it's awful that people actually enjoy the emotions rather than actual, well-developed stories.
I love writing, but I've always been shy about it, so I started with fanfiction. And in that field, you don't have to worry so much about developing the characters, because everybody knows them (unless you're writing them OOC). Sometimes I've had the need to focus just on the emotion rather than the situation, because it suited my state of mind at the moment, but you know that your audience is people who know these characters like you do. In the case of original writing, you can't do that and think it's a good story. I think that, if you're going to make your characters go through any kind of strong emotion... you can't write a short story and focus on that alone if you want us to care about the character. We might care about your state of mind, though.

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Nebelstern In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 14:09:21 +0000 UTC]

--->
Let's get this straight: We do not know your character well enough to care about them yet. No matter how bloody and gutty their injuries are, no matter how many of their family members are deceased, no matter what their boyfriend did to them, no matter what kind of disease they have, WE. DO. NOT. CARE!!!!!>---

My very thoughts exactly whenever I read the newspapers.... XD

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MetalElitism In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 14:05:30 +0000 UTC]

Dead on. And also ironic because because another written piece also got a Daily Deviation today that does exactly this. I'm tired of reading emo shit.

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LostGryphin In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 13:38:30 +0000 UTC]

Well said! Insightful and helpful! Congrats on the DD

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moveonthelast In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 13:34:57 +0000 UTC]

twilight is still better than hp anyday

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TruthisTruth In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 13:28:16 +0000 UTC]

I thoroughly enjoyed this. As someone who is in the process of trying to plan an original story (one that won't be on DeviantART, one that I may try and get published.), this was indeed helpful.

Thanks.

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Aerodil In reply to TruthisTruth [2013-06-09 16:34:35 +0000 UTC]

Hooray for you! I too am trying to get a book published. Here's to amateur writers trying to make it into the world of publishing a book!

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