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Some-Bored-Guy β Master Chief vs Commander Shepard
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(I'd just like to say thank you all for the feedback and appreciation
I'm surprised at how nicely received this little piece of work was, and maybe some time down the line, I might revisit this and do one 10x even better 
Thanks you all again, I appreciate the input )Two days of boredom, and I come up with this.
First time using Photoshop (for the background and effects) and SAI (for everything else). Given more time, I could make this look a little better. Example: It was hard to work with just pictures for the models. I wish I still had a working copy of Halo 3, that way i could have made a different pose for Master Chief. And Shepard... well that omni-tool kicked my ass for a bit because all the pics that I could use for reference weren't the angle I was going for at first :/ Ah well, I had to make do with what I already knew.
I'm actually surprised at all the warm reception
This was drawn for my friend who is a Halo and Mass Effect fanatic (as am I, lol)If I ever get the free time, I might return back to this picture and make a more grittier, darker picture. Maybe change the background to a battleground with Elites vs the Alliance. I MIGHT, of course. I'm still in High School, and moving in for college will take away all of my time :I
Ans as for who would win, well I believe that is up to you guys, especially since this comes down to an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.
(What I will say is this: Do NOT underestimate Shepard!)
This was drawn with a Wacom Bamboo Capture. I wanted to get a Create, better yet, a Cintiq, but I'm strapped for cash, and the Capture was all I could afford (and I sure could never afford a Cintiq. $3,000? Ha, I can't even afford an iPod.)
LAST UPDATE: I got used to doing some stuff in Photoshop CS6 and changed the background a bit. Also, I gave MC some lighting on him. I'd say this pic is pretty much "officially" done
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i just really don't care anymore. i believe what i believe and he can believe what he can believe. though i personally still think he is wrong.
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i understand what youre saying,i mean shepard is badass soldier we all must know but even if i do not loved the chief so much she is still being a better warrior on what fightin and lead is.
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that's what i believe as well ,but people will always disagree with each other sadly.
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sucks be them,it must be mostly cuz shepard shows more personality than the chief (looks like nobody reads the damn novels u-u ) personaly i really like the personality of the chief on the flood, doubt, nervousness, concern for his men,and all that badassery ..hehe
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yeah well in the game he never really talks the only way to really get how he feels is to understand body language to such a degree. but yeah i read the novels as well so i know what you mean.
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342 said that we gonna know him a lot more in the new trilogy of the reclaimer,so ...waiting xp
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Sure he does... Propably stronger than Master Chief's one. Plus Vanguard, would just flyyyy Master Chief to the moon, because he's pretty weak. Soldiers can take more hits than him and he has a shield! :3
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You've got to be in denial if you think Shepard can beat the chief. Shepard can't even LIFT him. The chief can lift over a ton, (even in games he can flip tanks over) and he can run 50mph in books. He's a bipedal tank. Shepard can't even compare to him.
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Lifting a ton doesn't matter much when he gets a bullet between his eyes. Shepard has overcome bigger challenges than that.
There is no denial, just rampant fanboysim going on with Chief.
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Yes, a bullet that can't penetrate his helmet without having several rounds try and break through his shields, idiot. Shepard is a low class soldier compared to the chief. A soldier who can life a tank and punch through a foot of steel doesn't even need a gun to kill Shepard. Please, your not in denial? Look at the facts and stop trying to create stupid scenarios.
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"Idiot" what are you? 10 years old?
If I am to judge from your fanboyism, I think that's about right.
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Yes. Because "Idiot" is a word only age 10 and below can use. It's good that you're responding with messages that don't even correlate to my own in a way of debate. Instead you wish to make stupid remarks. I can easily say I'm a fanboy, but the fact that you can't accept that Shepard is weaker than the chief in every way possible and you still think he'd win...I'd have to say you're a fanboy too. I salute you my good sir!
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Well, when you are calling me idiot. It just shows how immature your way of "debating" is.
And, it's too bad that they make Master Chief into sucha Marysue, it seems like he defies the laws of very gravity and how things work in universe. Not to mention, none of what you said is reflected in the game. Can't punch trough Elite's face or anything, can't sprint and normal soldiers can take more damage than Chief. He's pretty weak, especialy compaired to Shepard.
Sure, sure.. some books may claim otherwise, but they are not written by Bungie, so it's just for fanwankery.
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Don't turn this into something humorous on me now. You call me immature yet you're the one arguing with me. That's Master Chief as a character, don't like it? Don't make a comment practically suggesting a debate. None of what I said is reflected in the game? No shit. If it were, it'd look more like Gears of War.
It's a debate of which character could win, it doesn't say there are rules as to what section of canon applies to the character. So therefore, quit being a baby about the books. Fall of Reach came out right after Halo 1, and Nylund was appointed to write a book about Halo, therefore, Microsoft, and all that it owns was giving Nylund the opportunity to write about the Chief and what he has, and can do. So yes, it does apply to this debate because it's canon. You want to make some good arguments? Go read Mass Effect Revelations or something. Stop being a big baby.
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If you'd read Revelations, you'd know Shepard isn't in it.
And those are solid arguments. Why he seems so weak in games, but he all the sudently is a guy who defies very laws of gravity and physics in the books? Meaning this "debate" is based on inconsistencies of the Halo Universe itself? Plus, biotics in Mass Effect, meaning Shepard would just tear Chief apart before he got close. It's pretty simple.
And yeah, you are acting like a baby yourself. Haven't felt the need to go with "ur idiot lololol" grounds here. You are just proving that point by yourself, matey. Grow up.
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It's good to know that you over-analyzed a sentence of mine and messed up severely. I haven't read revelations, I never said I did. I was telling you that you should, maybe so you could know more about Shepard so you could stop whining about inconsistencies in the game/book canon, but I guess that doesn't matter now that you seem to think I was bragging about reading a novel from your beloved franchise.
The Halo universe isn't inconsistent, the only reason you can't do a lot of what is in the novels in a video game is the of up-most obvious. Gameplay. That's why the chief can perform many feats in the scenes though, like fall from space. So instead of trying to throw that into your argument, stop relying on petty observations. Biotics can't be used on very large enemies, like enemies who weigh over a ton. So with that, maybe you should take ME's own gameplay for example.
I'm acting like a baby? I'm the one giving good points, all you've done is whine about gameplay and canon. Last time I checked, your idea of a debate is "The chief can't do anything with a bullet between the eyes", as if that counts as an actual argument. Making up stupid scenarios isn't how debates are won.
And yes, you are in fact an "idiot", and being a delusional fuck-tard doesn't hide it. Now, instead of trying to play it off as if I'm the one raging here, lets remember who the only one is here that has given a solid argument.
To be honest, I'm afraid of even adding this comment in fear that you will respond with another "shit" argument ending with "You won't respond because you know I won you big baby" almost forcing me to respond. But nah, I think we all know who has made the best arguments here. I think I'll just leave this here so you can read it, do your homework, and respond in a couple of days with plenty of insults.
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I didn't, but you seem to be doing it now. I just pointed out that he doesn't feature in any of the books. For your information. So you should be the one doing your homework, ma boy. So why don't you follow what you preach?
There is no reason why Chief can't sprint in the games, there is no reason why he can't punch trough enemies with ease (rather than making few hits before the enemy goes down). And why not make the space jump as part of the gameplay? It is just a bunch of poor excuses. Meaning, Bungie's version is the one I consider more "canon". But, as I said, there is too much variation in what are his limits to make it accurate enough.
But hey, as you haven't played Mass Effect 3 for example, you can actualy blow up bigger mechs using the biotics to your advantage. And you CAN reave those bigger targets, meaning you can shread them apart using biotics. Also abilities like Charge and Nova can rip bigger mechs apart in few seconds, without them being able to do much, as you are staggering them all the time.
*pats on head* Maybe you should go back to your school work there...
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dude when you truly think about it master chief would win. he has a stronger shield, is generally stronger then shepard all together. and even with all of shepard's powers most of them would have little to no effect on him. and sending master chief to the moon would be hard considering master chief weights about 2 tons.
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Actualy one the things that bothers me about in Halo 2 and 3 is the fact that he can't take a hit. Normal troops have more health than he does. Shield isn't part of health btw and his shield is laughable. Vanguard Shepard can keep his shield up by simply charging to his targets for example and he could easily dangle Chief to moon with his powers.
Chief is just outmatched when it comes to biotics. He would lose.
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no he would not. but you gotta remember the reason cheif's health is low is for the game to be balanced. if he had health (which he did in halo 1) then he would easily beat shepard. shepard has very few things that make him stand out to other soldiers.
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and you should remember that shepard is restricted to 1 class for the same reason. If you want to compare canon characters then chief has a huge problem))
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i don't want to compare canon characters. if we are talking about full blown character biography chief would always win. i love both games but i also know both games.
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"chief would always win"? Because you're Halo fan?))
Let's make a little comparison:
1)Shepard can carry 5 weapons+1 heavy. Chief can carry 2 even if it's just a pistol
2)Shepard is one of the most powerfull(in terms of skill and control of his abilities) biotics. Chief doesn't have any form of protection from biotics.
3,4,5)Chief is bioengineered(only enhanced to a little degree in fact) supersoldier in terms of Halo universe. He was trained almost from his childhood. He has many cybernetical implants...
They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines such that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear.
--The Emperor of Mankind.:]
Sorry, I just can't take this console exclusive space marine rip off seriously.. What was I talking about?
Implants, bioengineering and extensive combat training is standart practice in Alliance military(especially in N7 forces). Most(if not all) soldiers come through this procedures to increase their battlefield effectiveness.
What about Shepard? Can I say that he is cyberneticaly enhanced? Well, if enhanced can be used to describe someone who had 90% percent of his body replaced with artifical body parts, then yes. Not to mention difference in tech level of halo and mass effect universe and fact that Lazarus Project was largely based on technology recovered from Sovereign.
6,7)Chief is known for his combat and leadership skills and famous for his luck.
His leadership talent is so great that he always fights alone)) Unlike Shepard who is really using it not only to lead his squad, but also to achieve his goals.
Combat skills? You think that effectively fighting ordinary "cannon fodder" with supersoldier is highest form of millitary skill? Shepard isn't a supersoldier in terms of his universe, where every mercenary can have millitary grade implants and equipment, but he uses his skill to fight enemies equal in power and superior in numbers. Chief isn't an odst trooper, but his skills aren't greatly superior to them, while they are normal people, who can't even dream about equipment like his.
Soldiers who is known for his luck isn't professional. He's a survivor
8)Chief can rely on Cortana, but Shepard uses his omnitool to do such things himself.
9)Chief can't take of his helmet:[
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like i said i am a halo fan but i'm also a mass effect fan i love both games. and what master chief only enhanced a little? he can fun faster then most land vehicles. and what do you mean chief's abiliy aren't greater then a odst's? he can handle a whole platoon by himself and walk away from it. and chief can hack and do all the other stuff but he let's cortana do it cause she can do it much faster then any human can. and chief can take off his helmet he just chooses not. in the halo 3 trailer it does show (not his face) that his helmet is off and he puts it back on.
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have you seen Earth multiplayer pack N7 characters(or at least normal n7 characters)? Do you remember class specific implants mentioned in the start of ME2 in the end of character creation(Lazarus Project)? Can Chief have at least something equal to them?
Chief is always fighting with foes that are weaker than him. Shepard is fighting with equals most of the time(if you can name hordes of enemies such as geth primes, krogans, reaper hybrids and legions of biotics). What happened to chief in halo 2 when he was fighting a bunch of brutes? And this brutes didn't have any enhancements or implants.
Imagine a Space Marine fighting along side with a Cadian trooper against renegade guardsmen. If they are battling with same effectiveness, will you name this Space Marine skilled? And this is just a matter of comparison of characters to their foes. Chief can't even dream about equipment and enhancements of same tech level as Shepard has.
As for "fun faster then most land vehicles"(sorry, but this phrase was just brilliant. I couldn't let it pass)). Shepard is moving slow only because he isn't running))
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in terms of power (strength,speed) the master chief Β would win in a fight against, Shepard but if it was in terms of technology ( biotics,AI,hacking) i would say Shepard would win because he/she has battle tactics that can use them to certain advantages wherever they are fighting, whereas chief can really use Cortana in a fight
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Sadly, I can't agree on that. I know that Shepard is a "universalist" type while Chief isΒ "tank/battlemaster", but there is still a problem of technological and enhancement level. Chief fans say that he is strong because of his implants all the time and considering the fact that shepard is in fact more of a machine then a human and that ME universe production is based on nanotech(omnigel, omnitools, etc) makes me think that shepard will be stronger without armor. But in armor... I fail to say who would win in terms of strength because mjolnir is a power armor - something that was never developed in ME universe(I think that N7 Destroyer uses exosuit and not a power armor).
And when the only edge of one of the combatants is under a question the results are quite obvious.
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i can see your point, well lets think of a battle between them without the armor/shields, in terms of battle experience i would have to say John (master chief) has a lot more time since most of the Spartans were trained from very young , though i can see that Shepard has done excruciating training in a number of years but with time john would've be learning from many of his mistakes in battle. in the end though i think they would have quite an interesting duel
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cant really use*
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