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this took me an hour or two...i havnt drawn alice in a loooong time soooo ...i did the font myself and im happy with the big"ALICE"at the top of the picRelated content
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to ??? [2010-05-19 14:28:32 +0000 UTC]
ugg she wont let this end
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to LovelyXangel [2010-05-19 14:34:46 +0000 UTC]
not funny its very hurtfull
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LovelyXangel In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 14:36:09 +0000 UTC]
i know this but she start it first
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LovelyXangel In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 14:40:57 +0000 UTC]
i am not bitch if i am newbi
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LovelyXangel In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 14:57:37 +0000 UTC]
she is still chng with u?
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to LovelyXangel [2010-05-19 14:58:35 +0000 UTC]
ya a good friend of mine...well 2 of them are giving her hell on her profile
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LovelyXangel In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 15:04:39 +0000 UTC]
woooow icy rly cool
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to LovelyXangel [2010-05-19 15:05:48 +0000 UTC]
ya i loves her
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Dirgeserval In reply to ??? [2010-05-19 00:26:50 +0000 UTC]
And honestly I really like the anatomy, it's really improving. <3
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Dirgeserval In reply to ??? [2010-05-19 00:21:28 +0000 UTC]
D'awwww!! <33 She's seriously soooo cuteee x33333. Agh I still want to draw her sometime. Maybe during the summer 8V.
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-18 22:07:06 +0000 UTC]
what part of "i'm new to art, and still practicing" don't you people understand? Besides, your art looks like shit traced out of Zoobooks, lol
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 02:33:36 +0000 UTC]
Ok, ok, let's see.
You are new to art, that's why I told you to learn animal anatomy. Came out much harsher than intended, I apologize. I got carried away by the drama.
Also, just because I was rude it doesn't mean my art is traced. Some of your friends (I'm assuming they are your friends, otherwise I don't know where the hell they came from) started accusing me of the same thing and that pissed me off to no end, hence the bitching. Sorry, but as an artist you should know that when your art is NOT traced and someone says it is, it hurts.
Do you really want to learn and get better? Then here's some proper critique:
Personally, I don't like writing a character's name on the drawing. At least, not so big. It distracts from the character itself.
The background is quite flat, but I don't think that is a problem for now. It's a character design, not a whole illustration, so the background is not too important.
About the animal itself. (Wolf, right?) I did mean the anatomy bit. Did you use reference for this? There are tons of stock photos here in dA or just normal photos of wolves/dogs you can use for reference for the poses. I'd try to draw them standing up normally before moving onto more difficult poses. while your anatomy has indeed improved from your other pictures, it still has a way to go. I'd focus on the legs, the back legs look like they are not at natural angles. The front ones are not too bad.
Better now?
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 13:14:13 +0000 UTC]
the animal is a fox...not to good at foxes yet thx for the apology and the critique im sorry for saying it looked traced i was pissed and it just took a life on its own...id realy like for this war to end but sadly the one who started it all :inkedcandyfloss: will not she ceeps stalking me on my friends profiles and relpying to comments i left my friends not even about her
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 15:28:45 +0000 UTC]
Just ignore the stalking, if you keep replying it'll get worse, I think. Just get some reference, work on your art and move on.
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 15:30:43 +0000 UTC]
thx im sorry again for the zoobook thingy but can you blaim me?
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 15:43:56 +0000 UTC]
Nah, it's alright. To be honest, I was bitchy enough because I have a horrible cold, so...
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 15:46:10 +0000 UTC]
i was bitchy from that troll >:C and i thought you were helping her draw my slef-esteem down so i fought back...all cool now im easy at forgiving people
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 15:49:31 +0000 UTC]
I do get a bit trollish when I'm in a bad mood, yes. Bad habit of mine.
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 15:55:06 +0000 UTC]
and alice is a fox just so you know
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 16:03:41 +0000 UTC]
It wasn't too clear, sorry. A good way to differenciate foxes from wolves is a pointier muzzle and a really fluffy tail.
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 16:07:10 +0000 UTC]
ya if you saw my pics of wolves you can see the difference
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-19 18:06:35 +0000 UTC]
And I believe your avatar is also a wolf?
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unfortunatebeginning In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 20:31:09 +0000 UTC]
ya it is my friend made eet for meh ^^
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Ink-Minions In reply to unfortunatebeginning [2010-05-18 22:07:42 +0000 UTC]
You wish you could draw like me, honey.
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Dirgeserval In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 00:22:15 +0000 UTC]
Who in their right mind would want to draw like you?
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Ink-Minions In reply to Dirgeserval [2010-05-19 00:51:12 +0000 UTC]
You, because your art sucks balls badly. Learn some anatomy.
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Dirgeserval In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 01:00:28 +0000 UTC]
How about you learning to draw period? And not tracing out of animal books. (Seriously, she's right you do look like you do). Come up with something creative or stop drawing at all. I'm surprised you haven't been laughed off of dA yet LOL!
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Ink-Minions In reply to Dirgeserval [2010-05-19 01:08:03 +0000 UTC]
Traced? Go ahead, report it. Which one do you want me to give you the reference for? The cheetah? [link] There ya go, go check on photoshop if they match up and try to report it.
Creativity? Says the person with a gallery full of shit? Learn to draw traditionally first with reference, then you can try and be creative.
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Dirgeserval In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 01:11:12 +0000 UTC]
Oh, so you do trace. I knew it.
And what does traditional art have to do with creativity? And for even that matter, skill? If I could draw traditionally like your stuff I'd gladly slice my throat open because that's just sad. In fact, the coloring looks like a color by number from Kindergarten. Yeesh.
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Ink-Minions In reply to Dirgeserval [2010-05-19 01:13:40 +0000 UTC]
Your comprehensive reading is as shit as your art. When did I say I trace, you idiot?
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thornefox In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 01:25:40 +0000 UTC]
[link]
fffff. Name calling. You're so badass. :T Getting a tad defensive, eh?
This is lulzy internet drama, no need to get upset, my friend. C:
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Ink-Minions In reply to thornefox [2010-05-19 01:27:00 +0000 UTC]
Yes, that is the picture I used for reference, why? Tracing is putting a piece of paper over it and going over the lines. Reference is when you look at a picture and draw what you see. Learn it.
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thornefox In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 01:29:33 +0000 UTC]
I'm just saying, it's not cool to attack people's art when you can't even come up with your own ideas. :T
Flaming =/= Critique.
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Ink-Minions In reply to thornefox [2010-05-19 01:42:26 +0000 UTC]
What do you mean my own ideas? I enjoy drawing animals, I can't exactly make an animal up. And I use reference because, while I can draw cats and dogs without it, it's the first time I've drawn polar bears, a normal bear and a cheetah.
About the portraits, they were done almost a year ago. I love The Crow and that singer, Tarja, so I wanted to draw them. Can't do it from memory, sadly.
Anyway, even if I flame someone... how does that make my art automatically traced? Hell, I missed on that rule.
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thornefox In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-19 01:57:59 +0000 UTC]
"And I use reference because, while I can draw cats and dogs without it, it's the first time I've drawn polar bears, a normal bear and a cheetah."
This to me right here, looks like you backing yourself up because, well you were drawing something you had never had a shot at before.
Now let's go back to the "learn anatomy" comment you left Artamis. She, herself is still learning. She is very new to art, and she's very open to CRITIQUE. Not bullshit. My point: When someone is new to something, they're new. They're not GOING to be the best. This does not mean they have no potential as an artist, and they are bad. So if you claim to be this great artist, I'd recommend trying to help others develop their art, and not be a total jackass just because your e-buddy is doing it and you think it's cool.
I'll respect your art, fine. It's not traced. But it is NOT perfect, and you are not the best, so please quit acting like it. :\ It makes you come off as egotistic.
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