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Description Thanks to for thinking up all his Four Arms concepts zigwolf.deviantart.com/art/Ult… including the one I suggested and am now drawingΒ 

Evolutionarily, I think Tetramands are going to put more importance on their arm and those will grow to four times their original size while their legs shrink leading to Tetramands using all four of their arms to move and fight.

For his clothes I took an altered look of Four Arms' Heroes United Design.
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Zigwolf In reply to ??? [2015-05-10 23:42:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I was thinking the same thing.

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Semir10000 In reply to ??? [2015-05-10 21:09:39 +0000 UTC]

nice.

i always thought ultimate fouramrs would have 6 or 8 arms.

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Zigwolf In reply to Semir10000 [2015-05-10 23:39:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

I think that might go against his name if he has more arms.

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Semir10000 In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-10 23:51:10 +0000 UTC]

true but it makes since.

he is all about his arms and his evolved form should be mostly about his arms.

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Zigwolf In reply to Semir10000 [2015-05-11 06:29:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I see what you mean. That's why I had my Ultimate Four Arms' body be mostly made of his giant arms.

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Semir10000 In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-11 18:01:53 +0000 UTC]

good idea.

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DarthDemolsis [2015-05-10 21:02:32 +0000 UTC]

Cool! I get a sense of the Dugs from Star Wars when I look at how their arms evolved.

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Zigwolf In reply to DarthDemolsis [2015-05-11 03:42:42 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, the Dugs are a really good comparison to this.

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RobertGDraws [2015-05-10 20:47:17 +0000 UTC]

Pure awesomeness!

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Zigwolf In reply to RobertGDraws [2015-05-11 03:37:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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RobertGDraws In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-11 03:41:51 +0000 UTC]

No prob, Zig! ^^

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Shadow-DJ [2015-05-10 20:00:50 +0000 UTC]

A Gorilla-styled Tetramand? Cool

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-10 23:37:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-10 23:50:46 +0000 UTC]

So what new powers does Ultimate Four Arms have?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-11 06:23:25 +0000 UTC]

Increased strength (of course), enhanced ambidexterity, near invulnerability to injury due to thick skin, and arms are used to propel superhuman leaps and throwing their weight to shift direction in midair.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-12 01:42:35 +0000 UTC]

Also speaking of the fic I'm making. I KINDA gave a little quirk for Malware's Pre-upgrade form. You know, when he needed the upgrade originally?

Would it be wrong if I gave him, well...

A stutter?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-12 05:20:24 +0000 UTC]

I agree that a Malware could have a quirk but with his voice, I don't think a stutter would workΒ 

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-12 13:09:57 +0000 UTC]

I meant Pre-Upgrade You know...

BEFORE his body became altered by the Secondary Helix When he was glitchy and all that.

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-13 04:57:46 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, a stutter might make him less menacing no matter what form.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-01 00:43:38 +0000 UTC]

Also...I had an idea on how my take of ben would get back his Ultimate transformations. Want to hear it?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-01 01:57:49 +0000 UTC]

I'm not too big a fan of the Ultimates but I'd like to hear how this might go.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-01 01:59:46 +0000 UTC]

And yet you do an Ultimate form, but eh, pickers can't be choosers XP

OK, remember how Ben went to Rex's world in UAF? In Heroes United? BUT the writers of Omniverse literally did NOTHING with the stories that could come out of it? Including, say...

Ben having nanites in his system?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-01 09:56:55 +0000 UTC]

True, but I like the idea of Nega Ultimates for Albedo as a bigger challenge for Ben. Ben can't fight against an ultimate version of his aliens in one on one fight so he has to improvise his alien's abilities for this type of enemy.

Yeah I remember that.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-01 22:02:14 +0000 UTC]

Basically...the idea behind the 'EVO!Ultimates' is that Ben instead has slightly weaker versions of the full Ultimate Forms snice, well, they're not hyperevolved but instead heavily mutated. They take a similar form, but they are smaller and likely a lot more monsterous than the Ultimate forms Albedo would use, since his are meant to be mutations over turning them into war machines over over a million years of evolution.Β 

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-01 22:31:02 +0000 UTC]

I do like the idea of mutation instead of evolution. Though this makes me wonder with how both methods, the DNA manages to change then when finished revertΒ back to what it was.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-01 22:33:22 +0000 UTC]

Rex, being an expet on the nanites from experience, can help Azmuth rewire the Omntirix into working with them instead of negating them, thus why they only partially transformed originally when Ben went EVO. And it can only be activated when the Nanites are active in ALien form, thus allowing him to change when they are active.

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-02 08:23:05 +0000 UTC]

I can see that working if Azmuth agrees that integrating Nanites into his device is the best way to go. Because Azmuth is very sensitive about his work and even he wasn't a fan of the Ultimate function that Albedo developed.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-02 11:08:54 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and I think it'd be the best way to keep them in line

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-01 11:13:37 +0000 UTC]

Fair

ok, lim thinking after, with all the time Ben likely went Ultimate after returning home, the Nanites were bathed in the energy, resulting in it giving Ben his EVO state upon Albedo's return, making him turn into Psedo-Ultimate Aliens (weaker versions of Potential Ultimates but still very tough) but when Rex comes to help out and fixes it, Azmuth finds a way to use the latent energy in Ben to go full EVO in Alien but keep control of his powers.

so in future battles, it's Albedo's brains and tactical skills against Ben's "EVO!Ultimates". It's kinda meant to be a consequence of that world messing with his DNA

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-01 22:23:50 +0000 UTC]

I'm still a little lost on this. So is Ben partly transformed into an EVO and turns into a slightly weaker Ultimates and through the combined help of Rex and Azimuth, the nanites in Ben get under control ? and you say keep control of his powers, what powers does he get from this ?

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-01 22:36:36 +0000 UTC]

Not partially, FULLY turns Evo. But the Omnitrix is fighting against the Nanites, thus when Ben transforms, they turn into a mutant state, but given that the nanites were empowered by the latent 'evolutionary' function the Ultimatrix gave, gives the aliens abilities akin to an Ultimate Transformation.

And as for what new powers he gets, he gets' Biological Weapons' that come from being an EVo. meaning that the aliens themselves get some sort of mutation that can give them a new power or a change in a power a different alien's original Ultimate had. For example:

- EVo!Humongasaur has Ultimate Humongasaur's bone gun, but it's more like Marrow from X-Men's spikes instead of just energy cannons.
- Evo!Big Chill can shoot out an icy fire like his Ultimate form, but it's white instead of Red.
- Ultimate Cannon Bolt gets the spikes on his shell like his Ultimate form, but the spikes are smaller in size and cover more ground on him.

Stuff along those lines.

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-02 08:37:47 +0000 UTC]

I see what you're going for but it seems like if Ben goes EVO, he'll turn into an amalgamation of his aliens like Kevin does. Also when you say theΒ omnitrix is fighting against the nanites, that seemsΒ a bit weird considering the Alpha Nanite got through the Ultimatrix with no problem during Heroes United. I'm just saying that the nanites probably would make things worse by constantlyΒ changing Ben because of the corruption of the device's main purpose.

I'm guessing by Biological weapons you mean natural enhancements that some EVOs get like Biowolf's metallic claws and Skalamander's crystal club arm ?

I do like that change, bone spikes makes more sense organically then missiles (UAF) and energy blasts (OV)

I don't know about this one because I never liked the whole so cold it burns theme his Ultimate Form had going on.

I think we can do better than that, like what if Ult. Cannonbolt's unprotected body was hard like metal and his armor plates become reflective (like blast reflective) gel sacs to enable better bouncing.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-02 11:07:55 +0000 UTC]

Actually...I was more thinking that Ben gets these circuit-like veins over his body that mutate his alien forms when he transforms, but as it's unstable at that time, they don't go full mutant because the Omnitrix is better made than the Ultimatrix.

and yeah, that's what I mean. A lot of Evos have that

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-09-02 20:11:25 +0000 UTC]

So is that when Ben first goes EVO or after he gets control ?

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-09-02 20:25:37 +0000 UTC]

Ben himself gets the veins when the EVO thing starts out and is out of control. Ben doesn't have them when he's in control but his Aliens gain them as a replacement for the template on the Omnitrix's spikes from the Ultimate Transformation. It's meant to signify the mutation.

You remember when Ben goes Ultimate, yes? When he slams down, four spikes come out? Think of the veins coming out in those same directions.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-13 13:56:35 +0000 UTC]

It was his first form he loses it after his Upgrade since he would be able to hold a normal conversation after that. At first, he was in a LOT of pain and likely had some faults in him that got fixed when he got powered up.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-11 22:28:42 +0000 UTC]

NICE XD

I've been trying to think of some Ultimate Alien forms for my fic for awhile ;;;

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-12 05:08:36 +0000 UTC]

You know, I've also been thinking of more doing more Ultimates, I just don't know who to try next.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-12 13:10:16 +0000 UTC]

Hmm...

Maybe Ultimate Ripjaws?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-14 03:29:16 +0000 UTC]

I did try to draw him once , but I couldn't get it right.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-14 03:31:18 +0000 UTC]

Hmm...

Maybe Ultimate Eye-Guy?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-17 01:26:54 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm I've already seen a good Ult. Eye Guy so I dont know how to top that one.

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-17 04:24:26 +0000 UTC]

what one?

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-05-17 04:32:57 +0000 UTC]

This oneΒ redamimi.deviantart.com/art/Ul…

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-05-31 15:06:21 +0000 UTC]

i meant a more heroic-version. Not a 'Nightmare f\uel' one like wtih Albedo

...yeah, I actually had a thought on why Albedo's Ultimate Forms look so different: It's because of his damaged DNA and a new Ultimatrix that isn't as fine-tuned as the Omnitrix, it's messing the DNA coding he has because he CAN physically change into the aliens. SO that lead to him becoming more twisted and freaky.

At least thats my justification in my Ben 10 Omniverse rewrite ;;;

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-06-01 14:57:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I get what you mean though I only like the Ultimate feature on Albedo, when it's on him it makes a stronger enemy for Ben to fight, but when Ben has it, (to me) it seems like a gimmick.

I like that explanation

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-06-02 19:00:44 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough.

thanks. But yeah, if Ben gets the Ultimate Forms in Guardians, there will be drawbacks of using those forms.

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-06-02 22:11:40 +0000 UTC]

What kind of drawbacks ?

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Shadow-DJ In reply to Zigwolf [2015-06-03 01:02:10 +0000 UTC]

Longer recharge, stamina loss, stuff like that.

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Zigwolf In reply to Shadow-DJ [2015-06-03 05:31:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh, ok.

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