crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-10 22:18:46 +0000 UTC]

Same old, same old.
Själv då?

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-11 05:05:41 +0000 UTC]

Tappat björksav, gjort ännu mera gifts till ett par kompisar, plus att jag klådde Rock You Like A Hurricane(, Scorpions, 84) på GHIII med 100% notes hit... x3

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-11 13:13:01 +0000 UTC]

Skickligt.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-11 17:12:50 +0000 UTC]

Tack! ^^
...fast det var på easy...

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-02 13:50:29 +0000 UTC]

Nej, inte direkt. /=
Det knatar på. Själv då?

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-02 14:01:33 +0000 UTC]

Lite trött efter gårdagen när man gjorde lite giftarts till ett par kompisars födelsedagar...

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-02 18:26:14 +0000 UTC]

Aww.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-02 18:30:35 +0000 UTC]

Båda ville ha lite motiv som är vanligt på önskelistan för tonårskillar, men vad gör man för kompisar.
Två är klara och tre kvar tills övermorgon.

Hur går det med ditt tecknande förresten?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-02 23:38:20 +0000 UTC]

Ah. ^^

Tja, lite blir det, men inte så mycket som jag ids sätta upp här.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-03 08:35:38 +0000 UTC]

Själv har jag varit rätt lugn på sistonde pga arbete (utan lön..).

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-03 08:58:49 +0000 UTC]

Aww. D=

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-03 09:36:40 +0000 UTC]

Det är lungt. ^^
Därimot ska jag till arbetsförmedlingen imorgon för att kolla upp en idé jag har.

Hur går det för dig med arbete då?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-03 18:54:32 +0000 UTC]

Jaså? Vad då för idé, om jag får fråga?

Tja, jag är sjukskriven just nu, men hoppas på att börja skolan till hösten.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-03 19:01:04 +0000 UTC]

Jag tänker bli en trädgårdstomte.

Ok.
Har du sökt till något speciellt?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-04 12:34:47 +0000 UTC]

Hur mycket tror du man kan få betalt för det?

Ska läsa upp mina estetbetyg från gymnasiet. /=

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-04 17:35:58 +0000 UTC]

Det får dom bestämma via blanketterna som jag kommer att dela ut imorgon.
Genomsnittet blir priset.
Hoppas bara att det hamnar mellan 500-1000 kronor...

Estet?!
Är du inte tillräckligt bra på det redan nu?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-04 17:58:51 +0000 UTC]

^^ Får hoppas det.

Tillräckligt? Finns inget som heter "tillräckligt bra". Man kan alltid bli bättre.
Jag har inga betyg i estetämnena, och jag vill få hjälp med att bli bättre och lära mig tekniker och hur man använder olika medier.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-04 18:07:38 +0000 UTC]

Ahaa...
Du vill inte vara lagomt bra, va? X3
Skulle nog jag vilja också...
Får nog gå till Vuxenskolan i Strömsund.

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-04 19:32:07 +0000 UTC]

Nej, varför nöja sig med det man kan just nu? /8 Det finns alltid något nytt man kan lära sig. ^_^ Det är en stor värld.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-05-04 19:36:40 +0000 UTC]

Jag trodde världen var liten...

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-05-04 19:48:44 +0000 UTC]

Inte då.

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-01-27 23:09:39 +0000 UTC]

Knatar på som vanligt.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-28 07:22:58 +0000 UTC]

Ok. ^^
Mycket att göra?
Jag ser förresten att du snart bara har 500 views kvar till din 20K.
Har du tänkt att göra något speciellt tills dess?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-01-28 13:08:20 +0000 UTC]

/= Nja, inte direkt...

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-28 13:20:39 +0000 UTC]

Är det svaret på båda frågorna?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-01-28 14:00:37 +0000 UTC]

/= Jag har mycket att göra, och nej, jag har inte tänkt göra någon kiriban för pageviews...

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-28 14:07:12 +0000 UTC]

Ok, som vanligt, va?
Jag tänkte nånting som du själv ville göra för att fira din milstolpe.
En kiribian är det väl för sent för.

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-01-28 14:51:59 +0000 UTC]

/= Näh, jag bryr mig inte riktigt om sånt...

Det är väl inte för sent förrän efter det har passerat 20k views?

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-28 16:02:14 +0000 UTC]

^^

Är inte en kiribian där någon tar en bild med PrtScr på användarsiten (till den som har fått t.ex exakt 20K) och skickar den till DA-användaren för att få en annan version av en commission?

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crunchturtle In reply to McSteel [2009-01-28 16:09:17 +0000 UTC]

Typ. /= Men än så länge är det ju 500 views kvar innan jag har 20k, så det lär nog ta ett tag innan det är försent för det.

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McSteel In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-28 16:43:15 +0000 UTC]

Oh sorry...
Jag hade nyss gratulerat en annan som hade nått 70K och blandade ihop er två...

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crunchturtle In reply to samisi [2009-01-16 18:34:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Trying to get more detailed backgrounds, perspectives and scenes into it. /= Sadly, when it takes four days to finish one page because the backgrounds of one or two panels are driving me insane, I sometimes wonder if it's worth it. After all, I'm only about three pages ahead of schedule at the moment, so it's a bit stressful. XD;;

I got some intense critique earlier about how there are way too many modern things present (the script told me that Tate used a marker in one of the recent pages, and I'm not sure when markers were first invented), and not enough references to that it's set in an environment supposed to be in the early 1900's... and I'm torn between fixing it and leaving it the way it is. /=
The script writer tells me to leave it and ignore everything the commenters said, but I don't want to seem like I'm not trying to do research. D=

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samisi In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-16 20:16:03 +0000 UTC]

The backgrounds are amazingly atmospheric! But, of course, it's a tough choice whether or not to keep putting four days into each page ... It would be quite horrible if you died of stress to save the intricate bg's.

... Well. My first reaction to the research/time-correctness is: listen to the script writer. If he doesn't consider it an important aspect of the story, then it probably isn't.
My second reaction is: listen to yourself, and consider (critics aside!) whether or not you feel it to be an important aspect of the story.

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crunchturtle In reply to samisi [2009-01-16 20:37:23 +0000 UTC]

Yeeah... Not to mention that it's terribly annoying to work on nothing but the same page for four days in a row. D= Once I'm almost done, I'm willing to sacrifice some details just to get the damn thing overwith. Something that I usually regret once the page goes up online. /=

Yeah, I figured that I'll stick to what he says, since it's his comic after all, and the characters appearance have already been established by the previous artist. As for what I feel, I don't really care either way when it comes to the inserting of modern items and styles in a 1930's surrounding. /= I don't really care that much about the story or the characters, but I don't want to drop the comic when it's only about 40 pages left to make.

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samisi In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-16 20:51:38 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, I know the feeling. It's not a nice one.

*nods* Then I most certainly do not see why you should let those critics force you to spend more time researching. Just get the thing over with, aye?

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crunchturtle In reply to samisi [2009-01-16 21:51:14 +0000 UTC]

Definitely not. x_x I suppose it's good to be able to look at an older page and see that it's not as good as a recent page, but the feeling of "... I could have spent more time with those drapes" is annoying.

It's not that I feel forced to do research. I like to look up references, even if I don't always know where to look for them. /=
It was mostly my writer's attitude towards the ones giving the critique that put me off a bit. Since it was on Gaia, where it's rare to get any kind of constructive advice, to have four people - who all have experience of working with comics, animation and sequential art in general - commenting on what I can do to make something seem a bit more authentic felt like a great opportunity.
But it was kind of shot down by my writer (who happened to get into a pointless argument with nearly everyone in that thread, and later told me that he wondered if he should stop antagonizing people or not), who called them all idiots who didn't know what they were talking about, and how I shouldn't take all their "advice" as gospel. D= I felt like he was talking to me as if I was twelve years old. ...

-sigh- Yes, I think I'm just going to do my best to get this over with as soon as I can, so I can do something else.

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samisi In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-16 22:03:35 +0000 UTC]

*nods vigorously* Exactly.

... Ouch, damn. It must be a really strange experience to put your creative energy at someone's disposal like that. I don't know if I could do it -- but I guess it's very good technique practice for the time when you can work on your own stuff.
Hang in there. <3

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crunchturtle In reply to samisi [2009-01-16 22:55:29 +0000 UTC]

It is. Especially since I haven't had much experience with people like this guy. The only feedback I've been getting about the pages has been "You're doing great." And when I expressed my gratitude about the critique I had been getting, he sent me a PM saying "Well, if it's critique you want..." followed by at least six paragraphs where he pretty much said "All you need is practice. Criticism isn't as valuable to you as you may think." ... which was really confusing to me. /=

Will do. And yes, it's really good technique practice. I wish I had the time to practice using traditional techniques instead of doing everything digitally, though.

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samisi In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-17 13:56:56 +0000 UTC]

Hm. Well, he certainly seems to have his own way of doing things -- which is good. I don't know if his statement was meant specifically for you or as a general rule, but either way, I ... half agree with you both. Criticism isn't something that should affect your work too much, but rather something to make you aware of things you are doing unwittingly, or causes for possible problems you're having.
More than anything, though, I appreciate criticism because it tells me more than 'you're doing great': it tells me what other people see when they look at what I made.

I getcha. It's gonna be great to have you back when it's all done, Cap'n. As 'back' as it gets.

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crunchturtle In reply to samisi [2009-01-17 14:17:32 +0000 UTC]

Well, that's my opinion about criticism as well. I'm probably not going to make all the changes someone points out, but I'll still appreciate that someone takes their time to point out what looks off, and I remember what people tell me for the next time I make something. Also, getting nothing but "you're doing great" - comments tends to make me lazy. /=

Heh, I agree.

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samisi In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-17 16:11:28 +0000 UTC]

*nods* All right, then we're quite agreed.
Of course, 'criticism' doesn't have to involve the pointing out of technical mistakes or suchlike. It could well be a detailed elaboration of 'you're doing great'.

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crunchturtle In reply to samisi [2009-01-17 17:00:54 +0000 UTC]

Well, of course. But I'm partial to the laundry lists of what could be improved on myself.

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samisi In reply to crunchturtle [2009-01-17 20:26:08 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha~! Personally I prefer an account of people's feelings, actually, be it positive or not. <3

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crunchturtle In reply to Firespettan [2008-12-27 19:01:48 +0000 UTC]

8D God fortsättning.

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