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Many people ask themselves (sometimes on a daily basis) why they should comment on a piece of work. Whether it's just a deviation that pops up into our message centres or a deviation on deviantART's home page, what makes us decide whether we should, or even want to, comment on that piece?

Why do we bother? Or more importantly, why don’t we bother?

This guide explores the thoughts that we may have, the excuses we make, and, hopefully, a few thoughts to encourage you to comment, not just with a few words and that's it, but to really give a fellow artist a constructive comment that they deserve... that we deserve.

What is mentioned below is by no means accurate or complete and it does not apply to everyone. It was written by ProjectComment as a Group, by deviants, for deviants and we sincerely hope you enjoy reading this.

A massive thank you to annajordanart , catadescour , technochroma , Jenniej92 and xblackxbloodxcellx who all contributed in the making of this guide. Their efforts are much appreciated and they really deserve more recognition.


Commenting
Many of us do not have the time to constructively comment on deviations, even though we want to. As a consequence, we and run, we write a couple of words, or something else that takes less than a minute to do.

Is that it? Are our pieces reduced to only something that is worthy of one minute of a person's time?

How many of us browse the galleries, on deviantART, clicking on random deviations? How many of us see so many deviations that have next to no comments, or comments that only contain a few words?

One could argue that it is their own fault for not being more active and supporting other artists. Surely if they were more active, they would receive more comments, and that... that is true to some extent. Regardless, it should never stop us from commenting and giving people feedback on their pieces. The majority of us are artists, striving for the same goal, so why not help someone in the same position as you… as us?

If you don't have time to comment, that's fair enough, but for those that have the time, why not?


Reasons Why
"Commenting on other people's work is a great way to expand your own knowledge of different variations of art. It's also a key factor to an art community - conversing and interacting with other artists creates the 'studio environment' that many artists work to in their jobs.

Commenting also shows a bit of your personality, or even that you are an open person. If you leave comments on people's work they are more than likely to leave comments back - its like an ice breaker." ~ annajordanart


"Commenting helps you not only to give your opinion or viewpoint, it also lets you receive feedback on whether you understood a piece of art correctly. Moreover, you can learn from other cultures and become more open-minded." ~ catadescour


"There is always a point to sharing your thoughts on a piece, even if only to exercise your observational skills. DeviantArt is a community site and you should feel comfortable giving feedback." ~ technochroma


Fear is a factor that prevents some of us from commenting when it shouldn't: "I think most people are a bit afraid to give a deep comment, or just don't know what to say, or are afraid the receiver will be mad." ~ Jenniej92


Have you asked yourself, "What is the worst that could happen?"

You might get flamed/trolled/etc., but you are not forced to reply and you are not forced to see or read the comment. If the comment bothers you, delete it, never look back and move on. Your self-esteem/confidence/ego may plummet a bit from the encounter, but you have only conversed with one artist. Not all artists are the same and there are many out there who would appreciate any feedback at all, which leads us to...


Excuses
...the excuses we make.

My comment won't make a difference and won't do much, anyway, because there are already loads of comments and it's quite obvious the artist doesn't need their ego stoked any more. Thus, any comments made means nothing, and there is no point.

Although there could be many comments, really look at them and see how many just contain a few sentences. Are all of the comments constructive? If not, your comment still has a chance of impacting the artist, especially if your comment is in-depth. If your thoughts are parallel to those that are already said, then there really is no point in reiterating it, but many artists still like to receive feedback, no matter how many comments they have.

"Even if you point some "weak spots" out, but you're kind, the artist will surely make use of your comment and will appreciate your honesty." ~ xblackxbloodxcellx

Generally, though, "Artists appreciate and thrive on any and all feedback on a piece. It is doubtful that the artist would leave the comments option "on" if they didn’t seek feedback. " ~ technochroma

technochroma goes on to say, "Pretend the artist and the "already knows their piece is amazing" feeling doesn’t exist. Just look at the piece for what it is. This is kind of a reverse Zen technique where instead of being acutely aware or oversensitive at the loads of comments, we are only looking at the art piece for what it is. Then write the comment, look at it objectively to ensure it is balanced for critical and constructive criticism, and post it."


The deviation is not inspiring, does not interest people, people cannot connect, etc.

If you find a piece such as this, what more of a better reason than to comment? You can suggest improvements to be made, give general feedback or anything else to help them progress as an artist. The critique template with sections such as, 'Vision', 'Originality', 'Technique' and 'Impact' can greatly aid in the making of this comment.

"Art is individually experienced and should not immediately be dismissed as 'uninspiring'. While there may be design reasons for it to not be emotionally compelling, just look at the piece objectively." ~ technochroma


The medium of the piece is unfamiliar and I don't know what to say, because I am out of my comfort zone and depth.

You don't have to have specific knowledge of the medium to convey what you feel, think and see. Some artists are fine with just having feedback, any sort of feedback. Our guide How to Comment - Pointers and Examples lists all the things you could mention (General Pointers for All Categories) that can apply to every art out there.

"If you’re really stumped, at least write about what you feel from seeing the art. All art evokes a feeling – all humans experience art at very least on an emotive level." ~ technochroma


I can’t actually think of anything constructive so no comment is better than a non-constructive comment.

xblackxbloodxcellx has pretty much summed it up brilliantly:

"Take a deep breath and look at the piece again. Name three (or more) things you like most and try to think why you like them. Write them down. Then try to look for a couple of things you don't really fancy and again, think why they don't attract you this much. Write them down. And you've got a decent comment!"

Some people believe that if they have nothing worthy to say, then they shouldn't say it. This does not apply to everyone. Although you may feel like that yourself, try and empathise with the artist and think how they will feel. You may be pleasantly surprised that people may want a non-constructive comment.


If a comment is made, it makes me sound like a douche, people bite my head off, it’s not appreciated, people will call me names, etc.

If your comment is not disrespectful, rude or 'flame-worthy' matieral, then the majority of people will only be like that if a, they are trolls (in which case, stay away from them or if that is too late, delete the reply and move on), b, the comment you type is destructive (particularly focusing on tone, content and phrasing) or c, it's neither the above, in which case, it's best not to pay attention and take what they say to heart.

"Besides, there's a saying in my country, "nunca quedas mal con nadie", which refers to those people who avoid saying anything because they don't want to get in trouble with anybody." ~ catadescour

Is that what everybody should do every single time they get a negative reply? Should we skulk around in silence, scared that the same things will happen again?

NO! Take a stand, respect the artist for the path they have chosen (even if they don't respect you), and keep on believing that not everyone is the same. Try and comment on 10 random pieces and see if the replies you get are all negative. If you get one negative out of nine positive, doesn't that prove something?

"If you're kind writing the comment, it's highly predictable that the artist will be at least as kind as you were." ~ xblackxbloodxcellx


When the artist doesn’t reply to the comments, it could suggest that they don’t appreciate it, can’t be bothered etc.

The majority of artists have a reason for not replying to comments, don't take it personally. It doesn't mean that they don't appreciate every single one, though, and it doesn't mean they won't be read. Sometimes, time can be a major factor, as our lives outside dA are more important, the artist wants to save the comments in their message centre because they feel the comments are helpful, or they just don't want to reply and thank everyone generically.


The comment won't be read

That really is not possible unless the artist just deletes your comment from their message centre without even looking, and if they do that, why enable comments in the first place? The fact that a comment won't be read and that a comment won't be replied to are two separate things.

"It’s also really tough to tell another person’s message reading habits if you are not the other person. Just have confidence! If you’ve left a comment, your objective at giving constructive feedback has been fulfilled, and you should be proud that you have participated in a group effort to make DeviantArt a more enriching place." ~ technochroma


The fact that all there is in the Artist’s Comments is '…'

Some people feel that they shouldn't need to explain their piece, that it is all there up for your interpretation. Some people speak a different language and cannot portray what they want. Some people are in a hurry, or just don't want to distort your perception in any way so that you give your genuine impression.

Either way, it shouldn't deter you. It doesn't necessarily mean that you won't receive a reply. If a piece is beautiful and has "..." in the Artist's Comments, would it put you off from commenting more than a piece that is not quite so beautiful? Regardless of their skill, pieces shouldn't be judged in a way that one piece receives a comment over another that doesn't.


I comment, comment and comment, but I receive nothing. What’s the point? Why should I bother?

Selflessness, and the want to spread the love, to inspire  other people to comment. It sucks when you do so much for other people and yet you receive nothing in return, but... look deeper. Do the people thank you for what you have done? Do they hug and smile at you? If yes, then that is its own reward.

Not only that, but keep hold on to the belief that what goes around, comes around.

Continue to be active, support other artists for just the support and the act of giving, and it will be reciprocated sooner or later.


Final Note
Hopefully this guide has given you a few things to think about. There are a lot of deviations out there with barely any comments, and deviantART is such a massive place, surely we should help as much as we can?

The most important thing to think about is to comment because you want to comment, to spread the love, to inspire others to do the same, or anything else that is selfless, not selfish. Set yourself a target to constructively comment on one deviation every day, or to comment on a deviation that has no comments at all.  

Most of all, though, comment for art's sake.


Guides by ProjectComment

A Guide to Commenting
5 Tips to Maintaining and Gaining Watchers
An Observation of deviantART
How to Comment - Pointers and Examples
How to Write an Artist's (or Author's) Comments
A Guide on (Offending) Comments


An extraordinary group you should check out…

Project-Pay-Forward ~

"We all know of deviants who need help from time to time. Sometimes it is in a monetary fashion - Like donations for causes, paying for a bill here and there or something else.

Other times it is a simple hug, a friendly hello, a newbie who needs a guide or the promoting of an event.
And who doesn't know of someone offering or looking for commissions?
Need advice on your work? A critique perhaps?

This is what Project-Pay-Forward aims to do: Help those in need, however possible. We all have our talents, and we all have things we would like help with. This project hopes to bring together the two and get things done."


Thank you for reading.

3wyl , posting on behalf of ProjectComment



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namenotrequired In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 18:40:00 +0000 UTC]

Aww, that'd be nice of you. I will return the favour.

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Atlantean6 In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 17:12:39 +0000 UTC]

I'd love to have people comment on my work.

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3wyl In reply to Atlantean6 [2010-04-15 14:12:56 +0000 UTC]

Do you comment on other people's work?

I think that if you have a few good friends who regularly comment, then that is pretty good in itself.

#ProjectComment is always here if you ever need more constructive comments, though.

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WakeMusicAlarm In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 16:57:08 +0000 UTC]

I've been doing my best to become an active part of the community, mostly for self-gratification (like a higher page view count or having a most favorited piece with more than 30 favs). So to do this, I've started commenting more, but usually just quick praise.

I'm taking more and more time to say how I really feel about a piece, but than again, I watch over 150 people, and look at all their art. I don't have time to say something special about each of them.

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3wyl In reply to WakeMusicAlarm [2010-04-15 14:12:19 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see.

Yes, I am the same. It is hard to come up with something on an individual level and thus... for me, I feel as if I'm repeating myself.

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WakeMusicAlarm In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-15 15:24:19 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, yah, I find myself trying to say more on smaller scale work though, hopefully to stand out and maybe get a reply or fav myself.

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3wyl In reply to WakeMusicAlarm [2010-04-15 19:45:01 +0000 UTC]

Yes, likewise, actually!

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Crusnik-O2 In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 16:00:25 +0000 UTC]

I try to comment as much as I can but as you said it can be very difficult to. People are very busy and have other things they need to do. While this is true for me, seeing as I am a high school student, another reason why I tend to "fav and run" is because I get thousands of deviations in my inbox a day. I know its not right to make excuses but I feel horrible when I dont even favorite. I can't bring myself to just close everything off without looking at it. I even made another account with just my closest friends so I would be able to give the constructive critisism to them. However even that account has become flooded and it takes me days, weeks, and even months before I get the chance to look at something, let alone comment on it.

I really do want to get better about that, so I think I will try to comment constructivly on at least one piece of art every weekday. I have no class during the first block of school so this will give me plenty of time to construct a good comment.

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3wyl In reply to Crusnik-O2 [2010-04-15 14:11:32 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

O.o

How many people are you watching?

I get about 500 a day, but most of them are deviations from groups.

I can't do that either... just remove everything without looking at it. =/

Oh dear...

Good! I think, when real life takes over, you have to live your life, but if you have weeks of vacation and all of that.. it's good to clear a few things.

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Crusnik-O2 In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-15 14:35:24 +0000 UTC]

I watch about 300 and something post-happy people.

All art deserves to be looked at. Thats why I cant just close it off. XD This will be the death of me, I swear. Lol.

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3wyl In reply to Crusnik-O2 [2010-04-15 19:42:49 +0000 UTC]

Ah... I see!

I watch double that, but most of them are dead and are not post-happy.

Mm-hmm. I understand.

Lol,

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Crusnik-O2 In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-16 15:26:09 +0000 UTC]

XD Me and my crazy post-happy friends. ._. I have over 300 deviations sitting in my inbox from just ONE person!!

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3wyl In reply to Crusnik-O2 [2010-04-16 19:21:55 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I would make an exception if that person posted over 300, but only if they were my best, best, best friend.

But if not, I'll delete them.

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Crusnik-O2 In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-16 19:52:47 +0000 UTC]

<.> She is my best best best friend XD Thats the problem!

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3wyl In reply to Crusnik-O2 [2010-04-16 20:01:00 +0000 UTC]



Ouch...

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ZombieL In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 13:26:14 +0000 UTC]

Great article! It's all very true.

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3wyl In reply to ZombieL [2010-04-15 14:10:05 +0000 UTC]

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Si-chan In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 12:58:00 +0000 UTC]

Great article. My favorite part is definitely when you said something about how people often don't comment because its "not constructive" and assume everyone hates these so-called "nonconstructive". Personally, I'm not the type of person to beg for people to rip my art apart with scathing criticisms. I prefer either constructive criticism or encouragement. That's what I call those two word or one word comments like "Cool!" and "Great job!": encouragement! And I see nothing wrong with them; I'd rather get those than nothing at all.

If a work of mine has a bunch of favorites but no comments, it's very disheartening because I want real feedback on my work. But I try to look on the bright side: a favorite is sorta like a "Great job!" so I try not to get discouraged by not getting many comments ('cause I don't really get many comments).

As for commenting...I'm the most long-winded person I've ever met, lol. I can't help but leave a long comment, constructive whenever I comment. It has to at least be two sentences or else I feel weird. Though lately, I've been trying not to comment as often though because sometimes what I'm thinking makes no sense as I'm typing it out, so I figure I should probably just let it go, lol .

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3wyl In reply to Si-chan [2010-04-15 14:10:00 +0000 UTC]

Mm-hmm, you and me both.

Well, they can be better than nothing.

Aww...

Well, #ProjectComment aims for you to get more comments!

That can be fun to read!

Oh right, I see. Hmm... Sometimes, we just can't find the right words to express what we feel and think.

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fauxonym7 In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 12:33:58 +0000 UTC]

very good article. I always get sad when I see a deviation with more favs than comments.

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3wyl In reply to fauxonym7 [2010-04-14 18:18:58 +0000 UTC]

Yes, likewise.

Ah well... 'tis up to them.

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fauxonym7 In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-15 09:11:36 +0000 UTC]

yeah. i guess.

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danik6igrannik In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 10:35:29 +0000 UTC]

i don't know much about art... but i feel when someone gave a shard of his soul to create something brilliant. and when i see this kind of art, i thank the person that gave me the emotions i needed to become a better artist (in a way) and a better person. sow when i comment something, i primary say "thank you" and then i critic but not the other way around.

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3wyl In reply to danik6igrannik [2010-04-14 18:18:47 +0000 UTC]

That's great!

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danik6igrannik In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 20:11:39 +0000 UTC]

this site is so warm and cosy... i want to live here!))

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3wyl In reply to danik6igrannik [2010-04-14 20:12:45 +0000 UTC]



It would be so awesome if we could.

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Traelium In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 04:33:22 +0000 UTC]

i'm too busy to comment on this.

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3wyl In reply to Traelium [2010-04-14 11:11:34 +0000 UTC]

That is somewhat ironic.

But fair enough.

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Zanktus In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 04:32:08 +0000 UTC]

I comment because of two reasons:
1. I like the artwork and want to tell the creator what I think is nice on his work. With that I don't mean "Awesome !!!oneone11", I always tell him/her what attracted me (For example: very clean, color, style and so on).
2. I don't like the artwork, then I mostly give tips for an improvement or I tell the person what he/she did wrong (In my opinion of course).

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3wyl In reply to Zanktus [2010-04-14 11:11:21 +0000 UTC]

That is fair enough!

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MoonstalkerWerewolf In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 03:37:05 +0000 UTC]

I only don't want comments if they're one-word comments... I always want more feedback, although I don't like comments that note everything wrong and then I don't know how to improve. I don't comment enough...

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3wyl In reply to MoonstalkerWerewolf [2010-04-14 11:11:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes... it must be balanced and constructive, in that sense.

Would you like to comment more?

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MoonstalkerWerewolf In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 22:30:43 +0000 UTC]

I should make it more of a habit, although I go into spells. I'll comment a lot at one time and rarely in another...

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3wyl In reply to MoonstalkerWerewolf [2010-04-15 13:33:13 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... Perhaps it balances it out any way?

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idontspeakmuch In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 02:02:46 +0000 UTC]

i've gotta say, i'm pretty glad i clicked the link at the bottom of the page in my message center. i recently self-discovered the joys of communication on this site, and reading this article really made me happy and motivated me. you all rock for putting this together!

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3wyl In reply to idontspeakmuch [2010-04-14 11:10:44 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the support!

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winter-songs In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 01:57:43 +0000 UTC]

I only comment on pieces I really love because I just don't have the time. I hardly ever get time to just hang out on deviantART and browse and make comments. Usually I look at the stuff in my message center and the DDs and that's it.

What really bothers me are the people who get ticked off if you fave without commenting. :< Someone I know says "Comments are forgotten, but favorites are forever", which is true, basically.

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3wyl In reply to winter-songs [2010-04-14 11:10:31 +0000 UTC]

That is fair enough. Lots of people don't have the time.

Not necessarily... I guess it all depends on who and what you are. I know many people who appreciate comments more than favs, and vice versa.

To each his own, I guess.. You can hide a comment, but you can't delete it... But you can remove a fav if you block someone.

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namenotrequired In reply to winter-songs [2010-04-14 07:08:06 +0000 UTC]

I don't agree on your last statement... favourites are forever in the sense that they will display on the deviation forever. But so will comments. If someone faves something I wrote (I'm a poet), I take one second to read the message and three seconds to thank them for it, but I won't remember who faved what the next hour.

However, if someone takes a minute or two to write a helpful comment, I take a minute or two to read it carefully, spend another 5 considering what they said and to what extent I agree with it and another 3 to write my response... so I am a lot more likely to remember them. Moreover, I might then take another 30 minutes trying to rewrite that piece until i think it's better than the previous version, and then i will remember that person forever as the person who helped me improve that particular piece.

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theghostlyartist In reply to namenotrequired [2010-08-07 06:23:20 +0000 UTC]

~i agree~
~plus, i actually remember some really, REALLY good constructive comments that i was given on my art more than i remember who faved what~

~i remember them because they were so unique and so..."hand-crafted" for me and my art and what i need to do to improve that they stood out so much~

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namenotrequired In reply to theghostlyartist [2010-08-07 09:14:30 +0000 UTC]

Yay. exactly

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Ello-is-broken In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 01:10:32 +0000 UTC]

I always comment on something that catches my eye, infact I comment 100 times more than I fav

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3wyl In reply to Ello-is-broken [2010-04-14 11:08:31 +0000 UTC]

Do you think that what you are doing is good and enough?

If so, then that's fine.

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Ello-is-broken In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 15:37:11 +0000 UTC]

I still but only on things that really stand out to me, so that I want to keep looking at it. The reason could be because it is very beautiful, helpful or funny. I find comments are more personal and if I do fav something I still comment as well.

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3wyl In reply to Ello-is-broken [2010-04-14 18:13:39 +0000 UTC]

Mm-hmm. I fave rarely, too.

Good stuff, though.

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Ello-is-broken In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 18:40:53 +0000 UTC]

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Arukado In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 01:02:27 +0000 UTC]

"If a comment is made, it makes me sound like a douche, people bite my head off, it’s not appreciated, people will call me names, etc." - This is really the main reason why I don't like to comment that often, unless I've spoken to the artist before, or have been watching them for awhile and I know the way they react to comments.

I've encountered many an egotistical twat who chewed me out because my comment wasn't 100% asskissing, they didn't like the way I phrased something, they have a problem with my beliefs/signature/icon, or some other ridiculous bullshit that obviously voids out my intention to be supportive of their cruddy artwork. These people don't deserve comments at all if they're going to cherry pick the ones they like to receive and from who they like to receive it from.

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3wyl In reply to Arukado [2010-04-14 11:07:16 +0000 UTC]

That is very true. It is a shame when that happens... hopefully it doesn't impact your want to comment?

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Kathryn002 In reply to ??? [2010-04-14 00:39:44 +0000 UTC]

I'm going to definitely comment more. I only joined yesterday and it's easy to think some of the truly amazing artists don't care about any random person's opinion, but that's just the point of this website, isn't it? To share and appreciate art, and everyone likes to know their art is appreciated. *goes to comment*

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3wyl In reply to Kathryn002 [2010-04-14 11:06:28 +0000 UTC]

Welcome to deviantART!

Indeed. It's all up to you and how you view things.

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