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Many people ask themselves (sometimes on a daily basis) why they should comment on a piece of work. Whether it's just a deviation that pops up into our message centres or a deviation on deviantART's home page, what makes us decide whether we should, or even want to, comment on that piece?

Why do we bother? Or more importantly, why don’t we bother?

This guide explores the thoughts that we may have, the excuses we make, and, hopefully, a few thoughts to encourage you to comment, not just with a few words and that's it, but to really give a fellow artist a constructive comment that they deserve... that we deserve.

What is mentioned below is by no means accurate or complete and it does not apply to everyone. It was written by ProjectComment as a Group, by deviants, for deviants and we sincerely hope you enjoy reading this.

A massive thank you to annajordanart , catadescour , technochroma , Jenniej92 and xblackxbloodxcellx who all contributed in the making of this guide. Their efforts are much appreciated and they really deserve more recognition.


Commenting
Many of us do not have the time to constructively comment on deviations, even though we want to. As a consequence, we and run, we write a couple of words, or something else that takes less than a minute to do.

Is that it? Are our pieces reduced to only something that is worthy of one minute of a person's time?

How many of us browse the galleries, on deviantART, clicking on random deviations? How many of us see so many deviations that have next to no comments, or comments that only contain a few words?

One could argue that it is their own fault for not being more active and supporting other artists. Surely if they were more active, they would receive more comments, and that... that is true to some extent. Regardless, it should never stop us from commenting and giving people feedback on their pieces. The majority of us are artists, striving for the same goal, so why not help someone in the same position as you… as us?

If you don't have time to comment, that's fair enough, but for those that have the time, why not?


Reasons Why
"Commenting on other people's work is a great way to expand your own knowledge of different variations of art. It's also a key factor to an art community - conversing and interacting with other artists creates the 'studio environment' that many artists work to in their jobs.

Commenting also shows a bit of your personality, or even that you are an open person. If you leave comments on people's work they are more than likely to leave comments back - its like an ice breaker." ~ annajordanart


"Commenting helps you not only to give your opinion or viewpoint, it also lets you receive feedback on whether you understood a piece of art correctly. Moreover, you can learn from other cultures and become more open-minded." ~ catadescour


"There is always a point to sharing your thoughts on a piece, even if only to exercise your observational skills. DeviantArt is a community site and you should feel comfortable giving feedback." ~ technochroma


Fear is a factor that prevents some of us from commenting when it shouldn't: "I think most people are a bit afraid to give a deep comment, or just don't know what to say, or are afraid the receiver will be mad." ~ Jenniej92


Have you asked yourself, "What is the worst that could happen?"

You might get flamed/trolled/etc., but you are not forced to reply and you are not forced to see or read the comment. If the comment bothers you, delete it, never look back and move on. Your self-esteem/confidence/ego may plummet a bit from the encounter, but you have only conversed with one artist. Not all artists are the same and there are many out there who would appreciate any feedback at all, which leads us to...


Excuses
...the excuses we make.

My comment won't make a difference and won't do much, anyway, because there are already loads of comments and it's quite obvious the artist doesn't need their ego stoked any more. Thus, any comments made means nothing, and there is no point.

Although there could be many comments, really look at them and see how many just contain a few sentences. Are all of the comments constructive? If not, your comment still has a chance of impacting the artist, especially if your comment is in-depth. If your thoughts are parallel to those that are already said, then there really is no point in reiterating it, but many artists still like to receive feedback, no matter how many comments they have.

"Even if you point some "weak spots" out, but you're kind, the artist will surely make use of your comment and will appreciate your honesty." ~ xblackxbloodxcellx

Generally, though, "Artists appreciate and thrive on any and all feedback on a piece. It is doubtful that the artist would leave the comments option "on" if they didn’t seek feedback. " ~ technochroma

technochroma goes on to say, "Pretend the artist and the "already knows their piece is amazing" feeling doesn’t exist. Just look at the piece for what it is. This is kind of a reverse Zen technique where instead of being acutely aware or oversensitive at the loads of comments, we are only looking at the art piece for what it is. Then write the comment, look at it objectively to ensure it is balanced for critical and constructive criticism, and post it."


The deviation is not inspiring, does not interest people, people cannot connect, etc.

If you find a piece such as this, what more of a better reason than to comment? You can suggest improvements to be made, give general feedback or anything else to help them progress as an artist. The critique template with sections such as, 'Vision', 'Originality', 'Technique' and 'Impact' can greatly aid in the making of this comment.

"Art is individually experienced and should not immediately be dismissed as 'uninspiring'. While there may be design reasons for it to not be emotionally compelling, just look at the piece objectively." ~ technochroma


The medium of the piece is unfamiliar and I don't know what to say, because I am out of my comfort zone and depth.

You don't have to have specific knowledge of the medium to convey what you feel, think and see. Some artists are fine with just having feedback, any sort of feedback. Our guide How to Comment - Pointers and Examples lists all the things you could mention (General Pointers for All Categories) that can apply to every art out there.

"If you’re really stumped, at least write about what you feel from seeing the art. All art evokes a feeling – all humans experience art at very least on an emotive level." ~ technochroma


I can’t actually think of anything constructive so no comment is better than a non-constructive comment.

xblackxbloodxcellx has pretty much summed it up brilliantly:

"Take a deep breath and look at the piece again. Name three (or more) things you like most and try to think why you like them. Write them down. Then try to look for a couple of things you don't really fancy and again, think why they don't attract you this much. Write them down. And you've got a decent comment!"

Some people believe that if they have nothing worthy to say, then they shouldn't say it. This does not apply to everyone. Although you may feel like that yourself, try and empathise with the artist and think how they will feel. You may be pleasantly surprised that people may want a non-constructive comment.


If a comment is made, it makes me sound like a douche, people bite my head off, it’s not appreciated, people will call me names, etc.

If your comment is not disrespectful, rude or 'flame-worthy' matieral, then the majority of people will only be like that if a, they are trolls (in which case, stay away from them or if that is too late, delete the reply and move on), b, the comment you type is destructive (particularly focusing on tone, content and phrasing) or c, it's neither the above, in which case, it's best not to pay attention and take what they say to heart.

"Besides, there's a saying in my country, "nunca quedas mal con nadie", which refers to those people who avoid saying anything because they don't want to get in trouble with anybody." ~ catadescour

Is that what everybody should do every single time they get a negative reply? Should we skulk around in silence, scared that the same things will happen again?

NO! Take a stand, respect the artist for the path they have chosen (even if they don't respect you), and keep on believing that not everyone is the same. Try and comment on 10 random pieces and see if the replies you get are all negative. If you get one negative out of nine positive, doesn't that prove something?

"If you're kind writing the comment, it's highly predictable that the artist will be at least as kind as you were." ~ xblackxbloodxcellx


When the artist doesn’t reply to the comments, it could suggest that they don’t appreciate it, can’t be bothered etc.

The majority of artists have a reason for not replying to comments, don't take it personally. It doesn't mean that they don't appreciate every single one, though, and it doesn't mean they won't be read. Sometimes, time can be a major factor, as our lives outside dA are more important, the artist wants to save the comments in their message centre because they feel the comments are helpful, or they just don't want to reply and thank everyone generically.


The comment won't be read

That really is not possible unless the artist just deletes your comment from their message centre without even looking, and if they do that, why enable comments in the first place? The fact that a comment won't be read and that a comment won't be replied to are two separate things.

"It’s also really tough to tell another person’s message reading habits if you are not the other person. Just have confidence! If you’ve left a comment, your objective at giving constructive feedback has been fulfilled, and you should be proud that you have participated in a group effort to make DeviantArt a more enriching place." ~ technochroma


The fact that all there is in the Artist’s Comments is '…'

Some people feel that they shouldn't need to explain their piece, that it is all there up for your interpretation. Some people speak a different language and cannot portray what they want. Some people are in a hurry, or just don't want to distort your perception in any way so that you give your genuine impression.

Either way, it shouldn't deter you. It doesn't necessarily mean that you won't receive a reply. If a piece is beautiful and has "..." in the Artist's Comments, would it put you off from commenting more than a piece that is not quite so beautiful? Regardless of their skill, pieces shouldn't be judged in a way that one piece receives a comment over another that doesn't.


I comment, comment and comment, but I receive nothing. What’s the point? Why should I bother?

Selflessness, and the want to spread the love, to inspire  other people to comment. It sucks when you do so much for other people and yet you receive nothing in return, but... look deeper. Do the people thank you for what you have done? Do they hug and smile at you? If yes, then that is its own reward.

Not only that, but keep hold on to the belief that what goes around, comes around.

Continue to be active, support other artists for just the support and the act of giving, and it will be reciprocated sooner or later.


Final Note
Hopefully this guide has given you a few things to think about. There are a lot of deviations out there with barely any comments, and deviantART is such a massive place, surely we should help as much as we can?

The most important thing to think about is to comment because you want to comment, to spread the love, to inspire others to do the same, or anything else that is selfless, not selfish. Set yourself a target to constructively comment on one deviation every day, or to comment on a deviation that has no comments at all.  

Most of all, though, comment for art's sake.


Guides by ProjectComment

A Guide to Commenting
5 Tips to Maintaining and Gaining Watchers
An Observation of deviantART
How to Comment - Pointers and Examples
How to Write an Artist's (or Author's) Comments
A Guide on (Offending) Comments


An extraordinary group you should check out…

Project-Pay-Forward ~

"We all know of deviants who need help from time to time. Sometimes it is in a monetary fashion - Like donations for causes, paying for a bill here and there or something else.

Other times it is a simple hug, a friendly hello, a newbie who needs a guide or the promoting of an event.
And who doesn't know of someone offering or looking for commissions?
Need advice on your work? A critique perhaps?

This is what Project-Pay-Forward aims to do: Help those in need, however possible. We all have our talents, and we all have things we would like help with. This project hopes to bring together the two and get things done."


Thank you for reading.

3wyl , posting on behalf of ProjectComment



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Comments: 528

yourSATURDAY In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 23:17:22 +0000 UTC]

a very good read : ) thanks for taking the time to write it, and i plan to take the advice to heart.

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3wyl In reply to yourSATURDAY [2010-04-14 09:59:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I am glad that this guide has impacted you in some way.

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animaybanana101 In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 22:57:51 +0000 UTC]

wow this article, in my opinion, is amazing and it helps us understand more about DA and the people involved with it. I really like the "commenting" part. I would really like it if people give me alot of feedback on my artwork as well instead of favoring it and moving on. I always comment before favoring or just leave a comment by it's self. I dont just do it to get replies back or to gain more comments on my art but to just share my feelings about the artwork. I always believe each artwork I view is worth a comment no matter how it looks because in the end it is art.

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3wyl In reply to animaybanana101 [2010-04-14 09:59:34 +0000 UTC]

Indeed! I think the majority feel that way.

To give and be selfless.

It is! Wise words, there. Thank you for sharing them.

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Timishayd In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 22:52:01 +0000 UTC]

If a comment is made, it makes me sound like a douche, people bite my head off, it’s not appreciated, people will call me names, etc.

What that part says actually happened to me with a girl whose deviant name I won't write here, but that episode was really heartful to me. It is true that not all people will react like that with critiques, but it's like if you had a car accident, you just don't want to get into the car again. Ok, maybe I'm overreacting, it's just that I'm a very very susceptible person. It would be awful if that happened again

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3wyl In reply to Timishayd [2010-04-14 09:58:33 +0000 UTC]

That is true to some respect. We all react in different ways. =/

It is a shame, though, to let one person get you down... when loads of people could benefit instead, if that makes sense.



What doesn't break a person makes them stronger, no?

Perhaps if you comment more and get into a rhythm type thing, and you receive quite a few hurtful replies, you may build a sort of resistance?

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Timishayd In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 16:54:06 +0000 UTC]

You could be right. I guess giving a few comments to begin with doesn't hurt anybody
By the way, your article is just lovely and inspiring. Thank you for writing it!

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3wyl In reply to Timishayd [2010-04-14 18:15:02 +0000 UTC]

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animaybanana101 In reply to Timishayd [2010-04-12 23:00:29 +0000 UTC]

I'm not exactly sure what happened between you and this person on DA but you must remember that you're not gonna recieve positive views all the time here. Even in life outside DA, you'll always face negativity from people and the same goes for positivty. It just balances out really.

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Timishayd In reply to animaybanana101 [2010-04-13 16:02:43 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I know that. That's the reason I don't talk/comment too much (in both real life and internet), even if I want to.
But who knows? Maybe I can give another try. Reading this article makes me want to give a lot of comments

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animaybanana101 In reply to Timishayd [2010-04-14 02:25:21 +0000 UTC]

It's all up to you.

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Kupo9089 In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 22:34:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for posting this. It agree with it because frankly, as a writer, I hardly get any comments and when I do: It's really nice. I'm just going to say that I do enjoy getting feedback, even if it is negative because it gives me a reason to strive and work better. Thanks.

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3wyl In reply to Kupo9089 [2010-04-14 09:56:37 +0000 UTC]

Writers are at the bottom of the comment chain, I must say. =/

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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Kupo9089 In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 22:38:16 +0000 UTC]

Sadly, they are. ._.

You're welcome.

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FootBallHead In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 22:32:49 +0000 UTC]

Great article! Well organized, written, and put together! You have managed to get rid of all my excuses for not commenting, and now I feel bad about myself. I guess that was sort of the point of the article though. My main issue was that I didn't want to sound like an idiot when commenting, but you squashed that one. I feel that the length is very appropriate for what you are writing about. Again, great job!

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3wyl In reply to FootBallHead [2010-04-14 09:56:01 +0000 UTC]

We actually ran a poll quite a few months ago about why people didn't comment, and many replied with these excuses. So their feedback helped greatly in the making of this article.

Thank you for the support!

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2753Productions In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 22:24:12 +0000 UTC]

I agree wholeheartedly with this, I pretty much won't fav a piece of work without leaving a comment because I feel that is more respectful - IF someone loads a series I may comment on my favorite of the series, and so on.

I also think it is respectful to actually READ the artists comments - who knows you may actually learn something - I have had so many of my pieces of work commented on by people thinking they are photographs when it is actually 3D - which I guess is a compliment, but still - if they read they would see I always put into my artist comment what the piece is, what software, etc.

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3wyl In reply to 2753Productions [2010-04-14 09:54:54 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I am the same.

Actually, I rarely fav anything nowadays... comments are better, I feel.

Oh yes, definitely. The artist's comments allows us to step into the artist's mind even further than the art itself.

It's a shame that people don't read them, in that sense, though... If the artist's comments is long, then it's quite understandable, but.. eh.

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2753Productions In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 12:49:51 +0000 UTC]

I myself appreciate a comment as well because it is through this that we can grow a funky looking star does nothing toward that end.

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3wyl In reply to 2753Productions [2010-04-14 18:11:49 +0000 UTC]

Very true.

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animaybanana101 In reply to 2753Productions [2010-04-12 23:03:16 +0000 UTC]

I so agree with you. Espeacially when you mention that it's respectful to read the artist's comment and also leave a comment because I know I didnt write down all that just for people to skip it and just fav.

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2753Productions In reply to animaybanana101 [2010-04-13 00:03:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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JiiDragon In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 22:24:03 +0000 UTC]

Love it!
I'm one of those artists that never get any constructive comments and tons of 's.
It's really neat seeing this article when I was just thinking about it.
Great work!

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3wyl In reply to JiiDragon [2010-04-14 09:53:07 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... Would you like to get more constructive comments? Or rather, more than s?

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JiiDragon In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 18:46:08 +0000 UTC]

Probably more constructive comments comments 's are nice too, but I really like to know what people's thoughts are.
Favorites are more for the other person's sake to keep it with them. ^-^

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3wyl In reply to JiiDragon [2010-04-15 13:28:25 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that is very true!

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baby-snakes In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 21:54:13 +0000 UTC]

Personally for me, I liked the length of the article.... I also wanted to mention one huge problem for me personally is I only have a dialup and often times it takes really long for a piece of art or someone's page to load, (really, like minutes long) and I miss being able to give feedback where otherwise I would have :<< not much to do for that problem :<<

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3wyl In reply to baby-snakes [2010-04-14 09:52:34 +0000 UTC]

Ah... Yes, that is a problem, and there's not much you can do.

In which case, you are not to blame!

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baby-snakes In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 18:21:21 +0000 UTC]

thanks It was really making me sad yesterday! I gave a chunk of people llamas from this other group I'm in.. and there were soo many amazing galleries I wanted to stop and look through. (i did as much as I could) it really made me feel like there's so much more I could see with higher speed internet :<

I do want to say though that you've inspired me to up my game as a commenter, it only takes a moment more to say, 'those angles are very interesting' or 'i really love the colors you picked' as to 'nice picture'.. thats not any scathing critique its just, digging a little deeper.. thanks :}

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3wyl In reply to baby-snakes [2010-04-15 13:28:02 +0000 UTC]

Aww...

Oh yes, definitely. There is so much here! There really is.. all these hidden treasures, too.

It's my pleasure.

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animaybanana101 In reply to baby-snakes [2010-04-12 23:04:12 +0000 UTC]

Have you tried to get broadband?
I can understand dial-up is really slow.

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baby-snakes In reply to animaybanana101 [2010-04-12 23:13:34 +0000 UTC]

yeah, I've tried... so far its too expensive for me.. I'm hoping they make it free for all US residents soon thanks

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animaybanana101 In reply to baby-snakes [2010-04-12 23:22:35 +0000 UTC]

really? I believe verizon fios and time warner are giving interent broadband for $30 a month (plus tax -_-)

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baby-snakes In reply to animaybanana101 [2010-04-12 23:37:52 +0000 UTC]

too much for me! I have to minimize my bills one day I'll be rich!

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namenotrequired In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 21:43:26 +0000 UTC]

Great article once again! I think it's mostly an issue of fear most of the time, being afraid the person won't be happy with the comment... but i've never experienced such a case even a single time with all the commenting that i do Though not as much as yours. But there's no reason not to comment anymore, now.

Woohoo, up in community news in just 1 1/2 hours

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3wyl In reply to namenotrequired [2010-04-14 09:51:35 +0000 UTC]

Mm-hmm.

Yes, likewise. I'm not afraid, as such, although I have received a few negative comments before... it just doesn't impact what I do, though.

Indeed!

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namenotrequired In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 09:59:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they're nothing to be afraid of. If i received them... well, the many positive replies i get would still make it worth it alone.

Hope it reaches its 500th before it's out of Community News. That would be awesome.

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3wyl In reply to namenotrequired [2010-04-14 19:30:27 +0000 UTC]

Mm-hmm. Likewise.

I actually received a really bad one once, but I just hit it and moved on.

Nah... It won't.

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namenotrequired In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 19:35:38 +0000 UTC]

Ah... yeah, they happen.

Hmm... it won't indeed, but it did come close.

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3wyl In reply to namenotrequired [2010-04-14 20:06:04 +0000 UTC]

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namenotrequired In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 20:09:57 +0000 UTC]

about 460! Close enough!

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3wyl In reply to namenotrequired [2010-04-14 20:12:54 +0000 UTC]

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namenotrequired In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 20:21:40 +0000 UTC]

that is one big acheivement.

AND! 11 rejections.

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3wyl In reply to namenotrequired [2010-04-14 20:32:08 +0000 UTC]

YUS!

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namenotrequired In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 20:43:07 +0000 UTC]

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Jeysie In reply to ??? [2010-04-12 21:29:12 +0000 UTC]

I can’t actually think of anything constructive so no comment is better than a non-constructive comment.Well, sort of. More like in my case, if I don't comment, it's because I don't really have anything to say other than some empty form of "I liked it". And honestly, if that's all someone has to say to me, I'm OK with just getting a fave.

I comment only if I have something "non-empty" to say, essentially. Doesn't necessarily have to be a serious comment or a critique, mind you, just "non-empty".

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3wyl In reply to Jeysie [2010-04-14 09:50:32 +0000 UTC]

Yes, what you say is quite true, there.

I guess, if you really come up with a blank wall, there is no point. The will say to the artist that they liked it.

To each his own!

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Jeysie In reply to 3wyl [2010-04-14 13:07:57 +0000 UTC]

I don't mean to make it sound like I never comment, mind you... just that sometimes I just honestly don't have anything to say, and I think it's OK when that happens.

If anything, I think Faves are kind of handy, to mitigate the mass of "I love this!" type comments that artwork would probably gather otherwise...

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3wyl In reply to Jeysie [2010-04-14 18:12:15 +0000 UTC]

Hmm...

Perhaps.

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animaybanana101 In reply to Jeysie [2010-04-12 23:05:31 +0000 UTC]

if you say "I like it" you should explain why you like it.

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