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It is often said that tolerance is necessary in a free and democratic society, but there is considerable debate about what tolerance is. One standard is that tolerance means putting up with others and respecting their basic rights. Others regard this as insufficient, and consider almost any expression of negative attitudes on the basis of factors such as race or religion to be intolerant. The focus of this essay is religious tolerance. This is the form of tolerance that was most significant to the founders of the United States. It will become clear, however, that religious tolerance is not as special a case as it may at first seem.Religious tolerance cannot reasonably be rooted in a belief that all religions are equally correct, or that religious beliefs are somehow above criticism. In fact, it is impossible to offer meaningful commentary without suggesting that at least some religions are wrong on at least some things. Clearly, those who advocate for gay rights are not intolerant simply because in doing so they must oppose the teachings of many religions. Neither are atheists intolerant simply for explaining why they do not believe any religion to be correct, or for pointing out flaws in holy texts. If these things are intolerant, then tolerance is not a virtue. Those who advocate stifling discussion in the name of promoting tolerance are properly regarded as authoritarians. A free society must permit discussion of ideas, including those that are intolerant by any standard.
Tolerance, rightly construed, is not opposed to freedom of speech, or freedom of religion, or any other basic freedom. Rather, it is the value that underlies them. A free society promotes the right of people to practice their religion, but not to be protected from criticism of their beliefs. A society that regards one religion's beliefs as above criticism is a theocracy. A society that regards all religious beliefs as above criticism is one where no one is allowed to speak at all. It is no less reasonable or tolerant to be forceful in one's criticisms of religious beliefs than to be forceful in criticizing political or other beliefs. Tolerance, at a basic level, makes such criticisms possible, and when tolerance is interpreted to prohibit such criticisms, it is self-defeating. There are some on the left who would stifle freedom in the name of tolerance and equality. Some feminists believe that they can liberate women by banning them from entering "degrading" professions. This is not tolerance, but ideological insanity. Conservatives often overuse and misuse the term "political correctness", but they are referring to a real phenomenon. Those who would make it a crime to say anything bigoted are not friends of democracy.
Tolerance is about respect. Respect does not mean silent reverence for a person's most irrational beliefs. It is intolerant for France to prohibit people from wearing religious headgear, but it is not intolerant to criticize the practice of wearing a burqa. Those who say it is intolerant to criticize other religions necessarily create a backlash. In a society where tolerance is pitted against freedom, bigots present themselves as freedom fighters. Those who promote the right of all to express their views are far more tolerant than those who seek to ban all hate speech.
Tolerance is necessary for a free society, but to achieve its goals, we must understand what tolerance is, and what it is not. Tolerance is about balancing interests. People are permitted to be racists, but not to discriminate. Discrimination infringes upon equal rights, but holding bigoted beliefs does not. We must avoid turning into the kind of society that has thought police to stamp out all forms of prejudice. The United States is unlikely to take this path, as long as the First Amendment remains intact and the Supreme Court continues to interpret it in something like the current way. The Supreme Court has held, for the last several decades at least, that the First Amendment applies to all levels of government and strongly protects political speech. Laws restricting speech must, by numerous rulings of the Supreme Court, be content neutral. For instance, a law making it illegal to deny the Holocaust would be struck down as failing this test. Several countries that are generally regarded as democratic have precisely such laws.
Freedom of speech has not always been so strongly protected in the United States. The First Amendment begins with the phrase "Congress shall make no law". At first, this was taken more or less at face value. Throughout the 19th century, many states made it illegal for atheists to hold public office or testify in court. The Supreme Court held that the First Amendment bound the federal government but not the states. The Fourteenth Amendment has been interpreted as extending the Bill of Rights to the states (though a constitutional literalist might challenge this interpretation). Even with this, however, we must be vigilant. Even if the Constitution were amended to expressly apply all of the Bill of Rights to the states and ensure content neutrality, it is not a self-enforcing document. The Supreme Court has stood by on many occasions in the face of blatantly unconstitutional laws or government actions, such as segregation (until well into the 20th century) and the mass internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.
Tolerance requires a certain level of deference. It requires letting people do things one may not approve of, so long as no one else's rights are violated. Sometimes it means bending a law to accommodate a religious practice. We do not first ask if the underlying religious beliefs are reasonable (in many cases, they are not) but only if their accommodation would undermine the rights of others, including minors within religious communities who cannot stand up for themselves. We do not allow human sacrifice or let children die without medical treatment because it is mandated by some religion. However, we do allow certain exceptions to rules in order to accommodate religion, such as conscientious objector status (which is less relevant now since the military draft has not been used in decades).
One might question if it is unfair not to give similar deference to strongly held nonreligious beliefs, such as those of an atheist who is an ethical vegetarian or strong pacifist. Religious beliefs are often quite strongly held, but many people are barely religious, or do not accept all of the tenets of their religion, and nonreligious people can have beliefs as strongly held as those of the devout. Religious tolerance surely requires accommodating atheists, agnostics and other nonreligious people. However, a proper view of tolerance makes the question easy. If a society is generally intolerant and hostile to freedom, then religious freedom and tolerance must be treated as exceptions. For instance, religious tolerance is a profound issue in our prisons precisely because prisons are rigid and intolerant places. On the other hand, if freedom and tolerance are the norm, then religious freedom and religious tolerance will be nearly automatic. For instance, in a society where people are free to ingest whatever they choose, tolerance for religious diets or the use of drugs in religious ceremonies will be a nonissue. Conscientious objector status is irrelevant in the absence of a military draft. Furthermore, broad freedom may lower resentments by reducing the number of instances in which religious people get what may be seen as special treatment.
Thus, religious freedom and tolerance are best seen not as special protections but as instances of a general value on letting people live as they choose, to the extent that they do not infringe on the rights of others to do the same. Religious tolerance remains quite relevant, though, in a society where private employment remains as a bastion of authoritarianism. However, religious freedom and tolerance have no place where the practice of religion infringes upon the rights of others.
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disqusnut [2018-07-15 00:54:35 +0000 UTC]
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Bravo! I applaud this piece!
Tolerance is inescapably tied with how we react/respond to our reality. Children are conditioned from birth by their parents to accept what is normal. But normality is a gray area and will be different for everyone based on their life experiences. It can even do a total 180 based on these experience.
When we are willing to try to learn more about others instead of automatically judging them as good/bad based on what what we have read, heard. Tolerance only works when we base it on personal experience as well...instead of only using what those we trust have said vs what we have actually experienced.
Organized religion does not work currently for all because it has chosen the "my way or the highway" approach to reality. Either you accept their philosophy or they are not willing to accept you. Science has essentially taken the same approach with the "Only the physical is the truth" approach. It has built a mental wall against anything that cannot be quantified or defined empirically. So while that approach has worked wonders for learning about the objective physical, it has crashed and burned when trying to learn about the subjective immaterial. Science who explore the border between the 2 are called pseudo-scientists or woo artists by their peers. Quantum Science, Metaphysical Science or Epigenetics are potential methods that have a chance at bridging the gap.
When it comes to social aspects, I think the best way to approach and learn more comes from W. Goldberg's statement about LGVTQ : "If you think gay marriage is wrong, then dont marry a gay person." Reality is much more graythan that but it is a good start. When we are willing to respond emotionally by staying and learning....instead of reacting by attacking or fleeing, new paths can open up heartily in our future.
I think your piece was perfect in every way.
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LittleDevil-888 [2020-04-25 16:28:00 +0000 UTC]
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AgnosticDragon In reply to LittleDevil-888 [2020-04-28 18:29:00 +0000 UTC]
I used to be vegan. I had a hard time explaining it in a way that did not sound self righteous. That may have something to do with why I stopped being vegan.
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LittleDevil-888 In reply to AgnosticDragon [2020-04-28 21:46:13 +0000 UTC]
Understandable. I've never followed a diet like that so I'm kinda in the dark but I could see why you might have that issue. But I mean if it's where your heart is, go for it, right?
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AgnosticDragon In reply to austin316hellyeah [2018-07-24 23:44:22 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad to hear it.
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doolhoofd [2018-02-17 20:03:29 +0000 UTC]
There is only one correct religion, and that is Sun worship.
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AgnosticDragon In reply to doolhoofd [2018-02-17 21:25:33 +0000 UTC]
A lot of people think they have the correct religion. It is what you do with that thought that matters.
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AgnosticDragon In reply to 13CatsAndCounting [2017-11-08 20:42:46 +0000 UTC]
I am glad you think so.
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AinsleyM [2017-11-04 15:38:58 +0000 UTC]
Well put! Decades ago American children were taught the saying "I may not like what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it". Sadly today the opposite is being taught.
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AgnosticDragon In reply to AinsleyM [2017-11-04 17:03:15 +0000 UTC]
Our education system has become infected with an ideology of intolerance toward those deemed intolerant. I think Donald Trump is part of the backlash. I think "black lives matter" helped elect him President. And Donald Trump is the number one reason I came back to this site after closing my old account. We live in dangerous times.
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ArtieArdent In reply to AgnosticDragon [2018-01-07 16:47:02 +0000 UTC]
Would you say being helped by black lives matter by presenting himself as a freedom fighter is irrelevant to whether or not black lives matter had valid ideas to begin with?
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AgnosticDragon In reply to ArtieArdent [2018-01-07 18:38:07 +0000 UTC]
I think they had some good ideas. The way they presented it interfered with the message, though. The slogan makes it sound like only black lives matter. I know that was not the intended message. Also, they focused their protests on Democratic Party candidates who were sympathetic to their goals. It came across as though none of the candidates was satisfactory.
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slimjimo10 In reply to AgnosticDragon [2018-01-18 00:41:02 +0000 UTC]
Personally, the riots and looting were what turned me off to it. And yet you'll find people who defend those actions as acceptable. Granted, sometimes revolutions may be necessary, but all that did was destroy property of individuals, and did nothing to change the political climate. If anything, it hurt their image.
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ArtieArdent In reply to AgnosticDragon [2018-01-07 19:29:14 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I guess the slogan made it too easy for people to counter it with "all lives matter."
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cold-dead-body [2017-10-30 20:28:15 +0000 UTC]
I'm religious, but I don't go around bossing people around. If they don't share my beliefs, I don't need to force them to. People can do what they want, since it's their life and not mine to control.
Live how you want. :<
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VampireSlug [2017-10-30 08:01:22 +0000 UTC]
This is one of the best expressed pieces on the subject I've read in a while, too often people confuse opinion with persecution... just because I think a belief is stupid doesn't mean I want to take it away from someone.
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AgnosticDragon In reply to VampireSlug [2017-11-01 23:37:28 +0000 UTC]
I am the same way. I think humans are deeply irrational, so I do not fault people for having the wrong opinion. I just hope to be able to persuade people. I think we can be tolerant of others without finding merit in their views.
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DarkRiderDLMC [2017-04-29 04:15:43 +0000 UTC]
"Thus, religious freedom and tolerance are best seen not as special protections but as instances of a general value on letting people live as they choose, to the extent that they do not infringe on the rights of others to do the same. Religious tolerance remains quite relevant, though, in a society where private employment remains as a bastion of authoritarianism. However, religious freedom and tolerance have no place where the practice of religion infringes upon the rights of others"
I'd agree. With the caveat that the reverse holds true. No holyroller should ever be forced to perform a marriage for a gay couple, if religeous straight bakers must bake cakes supporting SSM, gay bakers should have to bake anti-SSM cakes and...
...EVERYONE should understand that tolerance can be legislated and respect cannot. Respect must be earned.
I liked this the first time I read it, I still do.
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Okavanga [2017-04-26 05:49:25 +0000 UTC]
Added to my Watchers Collection ==> okavanga.deviantart.com/favour… .
Cheers
David
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tupilak [2017-03-28 06:29:25 +0000 UTC]
Sadly laws are written when common sense fails . . . good article.
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Graeystone [2017-01-11 19:35:20 +0000 UTC]
Graeystone on Tolerance - "Tolerance is me not punching the other person square in the mouth for saying something foolish/stupid/ignorant."
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gdpr-19335497 [2017-01-10 03:07:11 +0000 UTC]
Religious tolerance is not the idea that all ideas are equal, nor is it the nihilistic idea that it's better than nothing at all, but that we have the freedom to be wrong in our beliefs if God came down from the heavens and declared which is the right religion.
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joeisbackass [2017-01-10 01:37:47 +0000 UTC]
All very good points and very well written as well.
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Cataclyptic [2017-01-07 22:03:54 +0000 UTC]
This is a great article. It clearly explains what tolerance is and is not, something that many people on the internet do not understand. Well worth the read.
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PurplePhoneixStar [2017-01-07 21:24:45 +0000 UTC]
I will let you do whatever you want as long as it doesn't mess with my right to do what you want. Doesn't mean I can't think it is stupid but I am not going to bawwwww to the government to make a law against you or make you lose your job for it. But if you go bawwwwing to my boss because I don't worship the ground you walk on for whatever reason and cause me to lose how I support my family I am going to be mad. And that attiude and interpritation of "Tolerance" just breeds more resentment and bigots and hurts your group than helps. I mean when Hillary called Americans who didn't follow her cult's ideas as deplorable, she should have conceded right there. There were TONS of Americans on the fence then. Many of the groups that swung it for Trump in swing states (and that is middle class white blue collar Americans who never bothered to vote before) That just showed to them how bad the left hated them for existing and made them out to be these tropes of bigotry for not worshiping protected groups, even though they worked with many of them and treated them like people and didn't care about their protected class, just if they were good people or not. And what are you going to do when someone calls you vile shit that you are not? You most certainly not going to vote for them. (Before I you take this as me being a Trump Trumpeter, I am just saying part of what killed Hillary, I didn't vote for either.)
People are fed up with this double standard "tolerance" because most people pracitce Miram- Webster tolerance and that is letting people live how they want and treating others based off how they treat you.
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JaegerPony [2017-01-07 20:25:44 +0000 UTC]
Very well spoken, and I agree wholeheartedly. As a member of groups which tend to draw the ire of many here online (gay, furry, brony, atheist) I could care less whether someone's religion
leads them into holding negative, even hostile opinions of me. That's an issue for them and any attempt on my part to attempt to legislate their opinion of me away would be both meaningless
and more than likely detrimental. It would serve only to harden their opinion of me further into the negative. They're welcome to dislike me for whatever reason they desire so long as they aren't
actively discriminating against me or attempting to force their beliefs into law so as to turn it against me. Their opinion is not something I can change through legislation; only through respectful
honest dialog. Should that prove to be an untenable solution we are free to limit and restrict contact between one enough out of mutual respect, or mutual dislike. So long as we're not infringing
on the rights of one another; or anyone else? That's all that really matters.
Respect and tolerance aren't things you can expect from other people. They are things which need to be earned through actions. Treat me right and I'll treat you right, even if we don't get along.
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