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Published: 2017-01-20 19:53:20 +0000 UTC; Views: 1248; Favourites: 12; Downloads: 0
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The historical figures that Priscilla and Aveza make enemies of in my AC fanfic, “Nothing Less”. I had to add in some fictional villains for this story, so I'll show you guys the designs I made for them in a couple days ^^
John C. Calhoun was a famed senator from South Carolina back in the early nineteenth century. He was not exactly what you'd call a progressive man, being a vehement supporter of slavery and overall just a racist, sexist, terrible excuse of a human being.
He was also the ugliest man in human history XD Seriously, look up a picture of him, it's freaking hilarious!
James B. Ray was an ex-governor of Indiana. He was not a very liked man XD The citizens of Indiana hated his policies and his project proposals, and the local Natives didn't quite appreciate him constantly trying to kick them off their lands.
And Edward Brodess was an antebellum farmer and slave-owner, famous today as being a racist jerk, and ex-owner of the great Harriet Tubman, who escaped slavery soon after Brodess’s death and later went on to free hundreds of slaves in the southern states.Related content
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I think some people like Calhoun are too evil for the Templars
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The Templars did the Holocaust. I don't think there's really an evil limit with them 
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Making Hitler a Templar is Godwin's Law in action-it screams "look how bad the Templars are, one of it's members was Hitler!" You know, the historical Knights Templar doesn't deserve this, they were more of a brotherhood of religious militants who got broken and demonized by the powers that be because of their own military ambitions. Making them a sinister conspiracy like the franchise does is like doing so against the Freemasons and Illuminati.
Not that there's anything wrong with doing so for a good story, of course
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There is a difference between accusing someone of being like Hitler and someone actually being Hitler
As for history, while there is definitely a basis to cut many people in the historical Templars some slack, saying that they were framed in a bad light is equally erroneously simplistic as accusing the Templars. Both are simply pointing fingers at the other side. In Hungary for example, the Templars were recorded supporting some terrible policies against the Muslim population, which was one of the big reasons the king and his heirs started to break away from them and eventually support their dissolution. When a group is that powerful and that wide spread, it's inevitable for the power to start getting to them, Templar or king or otherwise. And I feel it is important to be careful when making official calls on historical figures like that. Even the people we look up to can be objectively responsible for horrible things.
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Yeah, I get it. History is full of great and important people being asses. Though I would say that Calhoun, definitely more ass than great. Relating to John C Calhoun, have you heard of the Petticoat Affair?
My headcanon for Assassins Creed is that Lincoln's VP Andrew Johnson was considered by the Templars, but he was such a pompous drunk they didn't want him. Lincoln should have kept Hannibal Hamlin on the ticket
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I have heard of it ye. I believe I mention it in some of my character sheets for Calhoun and Jackson. My memory is terrible though so don't quote me on that
I actually think Johnson fits very well in the Templar agenda. Him becoming president was basically the whole reason that Reconstruction started to fail as soon as it started. His lax attitude towards reforming the South's oppression of their African American population would've been exactly what the Templars wanted after they lost the war. It would make a lot of sense with the fact that they killed Lincoln too.
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From what I've studied of the Lincoln assassination, Mary Todd Lincoln was suspicious Andrew Johnson had something to do with it. Of course, she was kind of crazy and it's not like she got along with Hamlin. There's also the fact Booth's conspiracy to kill Lincoln also involved Johnson and Seward. Johnson only survived because his assassin lost his nerve and went drinking instead, and Seward was saved by his son, though not without injuries he'd carry for the rest of his life.
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It was definitely a mess
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Kennedy had a bevy of health issues like Addison's Disease and major back injuries that could've killed him before he ran for president, and may have led to him dying in office anyway. I imagine that if Kennedy wasn't shot he would have had to deal with his sex scandals hurting him come 1964(or in his second term), but I still think he would've won re-election, just not in the landslide LBJ did against Goldwater. Goldwater and Kennedy were on good terms, so I don't think he'd pull out those dirty tricks. From what I understand he was against escalation in Vietnam(which is why a lot of conspiracy theories pin his murder on LBJ and the military-industrial complex). I think he would be exposed for some of his affairs in his second term, but would be better at maneuvering it than Clinton. His family-friendly image would be hurt, but his willingness to admit his mistakes like the Bay of Pigs and being a good man at heart would restore love from the public. I don't think Bobby or Ted Kennedy would ever run for president in this scenario-I get the impression that they felt it was their duty to make up for their brother cut short. That's why Jack got into politics. Initially he liked the idea of being a journalist(he was a good writer), but after his brother Joe Jr was killed in WWII it was up to him as the now oldest child to carry the family's political torch. Doubt LBJ would run at this point either, since he'd be concerned about his health. I'd think Humphrey would be a strong candidate at this point, like he was IOTL. Question is, would Nixon in this scenario still run? Would Governor Romney or Ronald Reagan beat him for it? 1968 had a lot of potential candidates on both parties
Lincoln, I think he would try to be a peacemaker. We couldn't have gotten Jim Crow laws because he's not some doughface. As VP, maybe Johnson might actually help Lincoln's image as the conciliator. He would probably want to retire after his second term was up-from what I've read, he and Robert were often distant because Lincoln was busy at work. In retirement, Lincoln would focus on the family while also being ready to give advice to future presidents. Grant would probably still become president because of how well-liked a general he was. JWB, had he not got frustrated in the first place, would continue his acting career. He's unique among the people who tried or succeeded at assassinating Lincoln in that he was popular and well-liked, he wasn't a loner. His brother Edwin said that one of the things that helped him live with it was that a year before the assassination, without even knowing about it, he saved the president's son from getting run over by a train. Robert, to add on the spooky coincidences, would be present when James Garfield was shot, and was travelling to meet McKinley when he learned he had also been shot
FDR is another well-known president who died in office that I wonder how things could be different. If he managed to hold on another five years, how would the beginnings of the Cold War been like compared to Truman. Or what if he died, but he kept his VP Henry Wallace
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Alternate history is admittedly not my best strong suit
We do also have to be careful when looking at figures in Southern history like John Wilkes Booth. A lot of times those people have been romanticized incorrectly by the Lost Cause movement, and that can create an incorrectly positive view of them. No matter how well liked he was, he still stopped to performing one of the most petty acts of violence in history in the name of a failed nation built on the whip-scarred backs of people whom they treated like cattle. Even likable people can be horrible humans.
And I imagine FDR would have a lot of stuff to carry on his shoulders. I can easily see the political tension of a guy who's been in office for 20 years and taking massive control over almost every aspect of American life. Especially in the context of the Great Depression ending and thus not tying down people's morals as much. Couple that with the dropping of the bombs and all the other scandals of that era like the internment of the Japanese, FDR could've easily found himself in a bad bad position if he had lived on.
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Hmmm. Relating to the picture, I wonder what'd happen if the Nullification Crisis devolved into John Calhoun seceding South Carolina from the Union like he threatened to do so. Jackson would have the rebels stomped and personally execute Calhoun, however the big effect is that it would make the South forever think twice before splitting from the Union. Or any secession.
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I doubt that highly XD The South isn't exactly known for rationally backing down. If anything, the populace and the Slave Power politicians would make Calhoun a martyr and it would probably increase the chances of succession because then they'd really start whining about the "tyranny" of the North. It took an entire war of them getting pummeled and their evil institution getting taken apart under their very feet to get them too stop, and even then you still have people to this day thinking those grey-coated traitors were right somehow.
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Maybe because it's not so mind-blowingly bad as the Holocaust, which denying is straight up illegal in Germany
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No, it was definitely on the same level of bad
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I'm saying it's not as mind-blowingly awful because there was no intentional genocide
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The horrific aspects of the institution of slavery were absolutely intentional. Slaves werwere forbidden from learning to read or write to prevent them from being inspired to rebel or flee. Families were systematically ripped apart to break their spirits. Many slaves like Frederick Douglass were sold to people specifically known for their cruelty and aptitude for physical and emotional abuse in order to shatter the wills and bodies of these poor people. And that's not even to mention the Jim Crow laws that followed the Civil War as a desperate attempt to continue to keep that abusive system weighed down on the shoulders of former slaves.
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Evil plotting Templars? AWESOMEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What for fancy clothes they have
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XD Templars always get the cool outfits, don't they?
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I'm guessing these are the guys the rest of the Order don't like to talk about. youtu.be/uAVS3oPhktI?t=11m20s
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Well, depends on how you think of Templars I guess XD
Personally, I'd imagine these guys would probably be revered in Templar history, the same way the Borgia or Madeleine de L'Isle were. Then you'd have the occasional hipster Templar like Torres and Haytham who'd say otherwise but not do enough.
So I guess that means I couldn't say lol
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Heads up, you typed "eighteenth century" instead of "nineteenth"
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D'oh! >.< My bad. Fixed it though.
Thanks for pointing it out lol
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He's still ugly though, regardless of time period XD
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yeah lmao he looked like a chimp with a neckbeard
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