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tirusr In reply to ??? [2014-04-14 20:02:42 +0000 UTC]
Sorry got cut off mid post there.
Gun ban in America
In 1976, the Washington, D.C. City Council passed a law generally prohibiting residents from possessing handguns and requiring that all firearms in private homes be (1) kept unloaded and (2) rendered temporally inoperable via disassembly or installation of a trigger lock. The law became operative on Sept. 24, 1976. In 2008, the Supreme court ruled it unconstitutional. During the years in which the D.C. handgun ban and trigger lock law was in effect, the Washington, D.C. murder rate averaged 73% higher than it was at the outset of the law, while the U.S. murder rate averaged 11% lower.
In 1982, the city of Chicago instituted a ban on handguns. This ban barred civilians from possessing handguns except for those registered with the city government prior to enactment of the law. The law also specified that such handguns had to be re-registered every two years or owners would forfeit their right to possess them. In 1994, the law was amended to require annual re-registration. In June 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled (5-4) that Chicago's ban is unconstitutional. Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the Chicago murder rate has averaged 17% lower than it was before the law took effect, while the U.S. murder rate has averaged 25% lower.
Outside of america.
In 1920, Britain passed a law requiring civilians to obtain a certificate from their district police chief in order to purchase or possess any firearm except a shotgun. To obtain this certificate, the applicant had to pay a fee, and the chief of police had to be "satisfied" that the applicant had "good reason for requiring such a certificate" and did not pose a "danger to the public safety or to the peace." The certificate had to specify the types and quantities of firearms and ammunition that the applicant could purchase and keep. In 1968, Britain made the 1920 law stricter by requiring civilians to obtain a certificate from their district police chief in order to purchase or possess a shotgun. This law also required that firearm certificates specify the identification numbers ("if known") of all firearms and shotguns owned by the applicant. In 1997, Britain passed a law requiring civilians to surrender almost all privately owned handguns to the police. More than 162,000 handguns and 1.5 million pounds of ammunition were "compulsorily surrendered" by February 1998. Using "records of firearms held on firearms certificates," police accounted for all but fewer than eight of all legally owned handguns in England, Scotland, and Wales.
The homicide rate in England and Wales has averaged 52% higher since the outset of the 1968 gun control law and 15% higher since the outset of the 1997 handgun ban.
This data replicates in every case I've seen of widespread gun bans. www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.aβ¦
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Saklad In reply to tirusr [2014-04-14 22:50:29 +0000 UTC]
This is not the study I was talking about, but it effectively demonstrates overall trends and potential solutions.Β www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhβ¦
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tirusr In reply to ??? [2014-04-14 19:46:06 +0000 UTC]
And what was the size of this study? Where were the these studies done? What state? Rural, suburban or urban area? Was the study done in areas with high or low concentrations of gun owners? I assume they are not just looking into crime directed at the owner but counting suicide, accidentally injury and such. So if one removes those, is the gun owner safer from exterior threats? What about accounting for owners who took safety courses? If you could link the study (I wasn't able to find it on my own) I'd appreciate it.
And no... it's not infinitesimal. Culture includes our laws, our religions, our political beliefs, our people ethics and more. All these things are connected to guns. American as a culture is in love with guns and see them as a symbol of our freedom and protection. To some they are even religious symbols used in church. Why do you think people hold such feelings for guns? It's the culture America has built around them. It won't be anytime soon we'll let the 2nd amendment go. I am not saying this is right. I myself was raised in California by a former draft resister during Vietnam. I am a conscientious objector and pacifist. I do not own any firearms or ever intend to. I believe in reason and rational thought, not jumping on bogeymen to ease my fears and conscience.
Gun bans in america.
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Saklad In reply to tirusr [2014-04-14 22:47:36 +0000 UTC]
I mean the culture that we can affect. While guns are certainly glorified, and this increases their ownership, you have to be extremely suggestive to shoot someone because you played too much Grand Theft Auto. (That game is still inexcusably immoral and violent, though. Why did they make the police the enemies?)
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tirusr In reply to Saklad [2014-04-17 04:25:14 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for linking the article. It was an interesting read.
The culture is already heading in the right direction. Although we have the highest number of guns per civilian (estimated 89 for every 100, almost double the nearest other country), we are at all time low for gun owners. Estimated 30% of Americans own gun, which is an all time low. Why such high number of guns with such low owner percent? Gun collectors who don't usually actually use the firearms. Homicide and violent crimes are on a downward trend (confirmed in your article and I've read and seen plenty on that.)
As for violent media, Grand Theft Auto is hardly the first game or media to portray violence in a glorified way. I understand it's not for everyone and it's their right to avoid it. However, there is no conclusive research on such games causing violent behavior. There are studies that show the increase aggressive tendencies in players (both in practical and biological tests) but it is not connected to real life incidents. In fact, some of the most famous violent games released coincide with the declining violent crime rates starting in 1991. Namely Doom and Street Fighter II but many others in the early nineties as well.
I have also found in my research that competitive games (without or with mild violent content) can cause the same heighten aggression seen with violent games (many of which are also very competitive, such as Call of Duty.)
And in the realm of schools shootings, while a few times video games have been blamed there is only a few real connecting factors between shooters. Depression and anti-social tendencies. When accounting for other factors such as background, moods, etc. Violent video games as an isolate variable do not show higher rates of violence, delinquency, drug use, or other misbehavior.
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Saklad In reply to tirusr [2014-04-17 17:49:49 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. While for obvious reasons we don't have indicators of how immoral games influence people, the current studies show that they don't affect our behavior so extremely. While that doesn't mean I like those games, it does mean that I think they should be allowed. Like almost everything in the life, nothing can be answered with a simple yes/no.
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tirusr In reply to Saklad [2014-04-18 03:46:35 +0000 UTC]
I think it breaks down to that video games have no more influence on our behavior then movies, tv, books or other media. Some judgement should be taken when exposing kids to media content but I don't think there should be laws for it (and so far the supreme court agrees with me).
And yes, life is often much more complicated then people try to make it. Everything is shades of grey.
Glad we could have this exchange of ideas and information. ^^
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Saklad In reply to ??? [2014-04-11 22:58:05 +0000 UTC]
I mean, SWAT? Sure. But a policeman? I think there are quite a few laws against that kind of firearm for patrolling officers.
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tirusr In reply to Saklad [2014-04-12 16:52:13 +0000 UTC]
Seeing as I can go and buy one... not really. Using it could constitute excessive force though.
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Saklad In reply to tirusr [2014-04-12 18:43:57 +0000 UTC]
You cannot buy fully automatic weapons in states I know of.
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tirusr In reply to Saklad [2014-04-12 20:21:00 +0000 UTC]
I was talking about semi-automatic. (some of which can be easily moded to fully automatic)
Also, yes you can. It just has to have been registered before 1986 (some restrictons may apply, I don't know all the details off the top of my head. See the Firearm Owners Protection Act.)
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Saklad In reply to tirusr [2014-04-12 20:23:27 +0000 UTC]
Grandfathering in a gun doesn't really count, in my opinion, since no law should ever affect items that were legal at the time of purchase without an extremely good reason.
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tirusr In reply to Saklad [2014-04-12 20:48:01 +0000 UTC]
Considering I can buy one of these grandfathered guns because the act does allow for legal transfer. I can technically legally buy a Gatling gun from a private owner. I believe that counts.
These guns tend to have very high prices because of the legal restrictions and are a collector item by gun enthusiasts.
Again though, my original comment was I could buy such a rifle as depicted in the comic.Β Not that I want one mind you.
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joremias In reply to cluedog [2014-04-12 18:37:19 +0000 UTC]
I knew it. ItΒ΄s a little bit tragic, but mandatory.
Keep going.
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LemmiwinksGerbilKing In reply to ??? [2014-04-11 14:50:53 +0000 UTC]
I can hear the "BONG" and "DZING" sounds, as the car's crushing...
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cluedog In reply to LemmiwinksGerbilKing [2014-04-12 11:48:29 +0000 UTC]
"Bonk" would also work.Β
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LemmiwinksGerbilKing In reply to cluedog [2014-04-12 12:12:22 +0000 UTC]
I think, that would be pointless. Why wear special undies, if no one is allowed to see them? ^^
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LemmiwinksGerbilKing In reply to LemmiwinksGerbilKing [2014-04-12 12:14:16 +0000 UTC]
NEVER answer to many comments at the same time. *smashs himself against the wall*
That wasn't to you, sorry. XD
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Levia-the-Dragon In reply to ??? [2014-04-11 03:25:20 +0000 UTC]
There's something very wrong with that car...
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cluedog In reply to Levia-the-Dragon [2014-04-11 13:32:52 +0000 UTC]
I agree.Β Β It's got one flat tire!Β
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NatalieRath [2014-04-11 02:56:05 +0000 UTC]
Those poor ducks. Flattened. If only they obeyed the stop sign power. Now they shall suffer!
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tirusr In reply to ??? [2014-04-10 22:49:49 +0000 UTC]
Poor sheriff... he had full faith in that stop sign.
Good thing his partner is a crack-shot. ^^
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cluedog In reply to tirusr [2014-04-11 13:34:59 +0000 UTC]
His partner is definitely saving their feathered butts.Β
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God-bless-you-all [2014-04-10 22:05:02 +0000 UTC]
I love that drawing of the car slamming down on the roofβ¦the teeth were a nice touch!
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cluedog In reply to God-bless-you-all [2014-04-11 13:34:38 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, Ailynn.Β Just giving my cartooning side a bit of a stretch.Β
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denikina-art [2014-04-10 21:07:49 +0000 UTC]
It is just lperfect. I really like your style and can't wait for the next one :3
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cluedog In reply to denikina-art [2014-04-11 13:33:51 +0000 UTC]
Wow.Β Thank you so much!
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BalloonPrincess In reply to ??? [2014-04-10 20:24:38 +0000 UTC]
Oh wow!
That's awesome shooting, especially so fast!Β I'm sure Allan Quatermain would be impressed!Β
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NatalieRath In reply to ??? [2014-04-10 08:45:09 +0000 UTC]
No.... IT CAN'T BE. THE POWER OF THE STOP SIGN HAS FAILED US ALL.
*curls in the fetal position*Β
We are all.. doomed.
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cluedog In reply to NatalieRath [2014-04-10 17:37:27 +0000 UTC]
Well, there's always arming yourself to the teeth with a gratuitous pile of firearms.Β
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Levia-the-Dragon In reply to ??? [2014-04-09 15:32:15 +0000 UTC]
Yep, could've seen that coming.
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cluedog In reply to Levia-the-Dragon [2014-04-10 17:36:31 +0000 UTC]
Yep.Β And I really thought that sign was going to work, too!Β
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BalloonPrincess In reply to ??? [2014-04-09 13:57:40 +0000 UTC]
**Giggles!**
I'm surprised the guy in front did give them the finger.Β
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cluedog In reply to BalloonPrincess [2014-04-10 17:36:04 +0000 UTC]
I actually thought about that but I'm not quite sure if the comic should be that edgy. Of course, we've already seen somebody's brains blown out and some sexual innuendo, so maybe it wouldn't be too out of place.Β
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BalloonPrincess In reply to cluedog [2014-04-10 20:45:42 +0000 UTC]
I gotcha.Β I was looking at the picture later and was thinking that it might be over the top.Β
Not sure if you watch anime, but there was a series put put by Manga Video called "Angel Cop".Β Now I'm not one who is a "Holier than Thou" person and I can curse like a sailor, but the English version was so choked full of foul language, it really makes watching it painful.Β Another example was toning down the Princess's salty language for his animation he and his friends did with her in it.Β I had no problem with that at all.
It often shows more talent to tone things down than to go full throttle.Β
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