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Design sold.Finally finished this guys ref sheeeeeeet :'D
Name: Patronum
Gender: Male
Species: Stardog (Starbucks dog species made by superdoq
S/O: Straight
Height: 6'2''
Body type: Lightly muscled
Personality: Major surfer guy. He loves o hang out on the beach and chill with his bros. He loves the ocean and is very VERY laid back. Not much bothers him except for the few things he doesn't prefer in life. Although he is a surfer/beach bum, he does not fit the ....stereotype. He is very smart and loves biology. One day he hopes to be a marine biologist or marine environmentalist.
likes: Harry Potter, THe ocean, Dusk, Biology, Onion rigs, Beach houses, Surfing, Snowboarding, Chilling out, looking at marine life
Dislikes: Storms, wool, high altitudes, ketchup, the word "Soggy"
BOOP.
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Comments: 161
donewithyourshit In reply to ??? [2014-08-16 22:29:05 +0000 UTC]
oh my god you make me Sick......
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1940s In reply to ??? [2014-08-15 10:56:01 +0000 UTC]
Two can play at this game, bitch.
You are fucking ridiculous.
How about you suck your girlfriend's limp dick, eh?
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requiemdaemonis In reply to 1940s [2014-08-15 11:03:44 +0000 UTC]
Sounds like fun, and she can lick my pussy and it'll be gr9.
what about you ma'am? you got yourself a boyfriend? Or are you gay? I don't judge :3
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1940s In reply to requiemdaemonis [2014-08-15 11:06:06 +0000 UTC]
Gay as Fuck, sweety.
I'm proud.
How about you move along, eh?
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requiemdaemonis In reply to 1940s [2014-08-15 11:09:07 +0000 UTC]
oki <3
btw
i don't even know you yet you're firing isults off at me, and all i'm being is friendly to you.
i honestly feel so attacked right now, i don't even understand.
pls leave me alone or I'll put you on my public ban list.
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1940s In reply to requiemdaemonis [2014-08-15 11:13:18 +0000 UTC]
Go ahead.
Put me on your stupid list.
You aren't being "friendly" due to the fact you misgendered me several times.
Even after I told you, you kept on talking.
"I know, because I know it upsets you. We are at a disagreement and are exchanging verbal fisticuffs. My goal is to upset you my dear lady <3."
Hypocritical garbage.
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requiemdaemonis In reply to 1940s [2014-08-15 11:16:24 +0000 UTC]
hahaha do you think I'm being serious man? jeeeeeze hahaha no need to get worked up love :3
anyways I'm getting bored
now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time.
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1940s In reply to requiemdaemonis [2014-08-15 11:19:13 +0000 UTC]
I don't just "go away".
You are pathetic.
I bet if I saw your ass in real life I could knock you down.
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1940s In reply to geofframsey [2014-08-15 20:56:41 +0000 UTC]
Become athiest.
Don't believe in me.
I am worst god.
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1940s In reply to geofframsey [2014-08-15 21:01:38 +0000 UTC]
I will be a king.
Bow down to King Wade.
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requiemdaemonis In reply to 1940s [2014-08-15 11:24:59 +0000 UTC]
sorry broh im taken, and straight. thanks though, i'm flattered.
btw you're easier to rile up than my sister
if you're over 18, you really need to grow up
anyways, this was fun. always good to keep my wits sharp. have a good night because i'm too sleepy for this now
and to make you feel like you've won, i'll letcha have the last comment! hows that sound champ?
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requiemdaemonis In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 09:35:47 +0000 UTC]
alright alright, apparently you're the nice one so I'll stop misgendering him.
also he can't take patronum away because he was sold.
I'm sorry for offending YOU. You're friend? Not so much.
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OldDallas In reply to requiemdaemonis [2014-08-15 09:41:07 +0000 UTC]
Unforunately, even being sold the new owner doesn't even own them. He took them back.
I'm really sorry about all of this, but Elliot was just trying to enforce his rules x:
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requiemdaemonis In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 09:49:12 +0000 UTC]
hey either way I'm stepping out of this, it's no longer my business (I hope, I'm afraid to get any more vicious but I will)
also, all Elliot managed to accomplish was a public journal talking about his scam... soooo.. eh.
and in the end, "taking away" doesn't hold much power unless he can reach through the internet and cut off her hand because anyone can easily draw what they want, especially if they've been scammed like this.
either way it's like I said, I'm stepping out of this.
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OldDallas In reply to requiemdaemonis [2014-08-15 09:51:00 +0000 UTC]
It's not a scam, she got her art, and her characters she's the one who broke the rules.
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BUKOWSKl In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 19:31:34 +0000 UTC]
It's a scam until Coffae and everyone else gets refunded.
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BUKOWSKl In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 19:38:15 +0000 UTC]
theyre getting scammed out of money
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mundees In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 23:32:49 +0000 UTC]
Are you stupid? They gave him $60 and he's taken what they paid for without a refund.
I'm sorry but a cat company can't take your car back because you changed the interior. Its illegal.
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OldDallas In reply to mundees [2014-08-15 23:39:55 +0000 UTC]
They only gave him $20. Please check your info.
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coffaefox In reply to ??? [2014-08-15 07:34:49 +0000 UTC]
This isn't about whether or not I will use the anthro form for me. Like I said, I like this reference sheet and I spent many hours on it and I don't want to have to make another one. By having this up and not commissioning anthro art, I am not doing any harm and it is truly unfair of you to tell me you will take away my stardogs for something that does no harm.
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struttons In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-15 09:04:01 +0000 UTC]
It is not allowed. Crop the ref. Last warning. Anymore arguing and they are being taken back and you will be on a public ban list.
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OldDallas In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-15 08:55:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry coffae, it his species, and while it seems unfair by copyright law of his designs he's allowed to change it, or take your rights if he wishes.
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coffaefox In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 08:59:41 +0000 UTC]
yeah, and that's all cool, but I spent a lot of time on this reference sheet and if I don't intend on using the anthro portion, well once again, I see it to be extraordinarily unfair of him to be asking me of such things.
it's unnecessary.
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struttons In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-15 09:12:20 +0000 UTC]
I'm now giving you one hour to crop this or remove it. at 3 am PDT your Stardogs will be revoked and your name on the public ban list will be in place for refusing to follow the rules and disrespecting the species owner.
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coffaefox In reply to struttons [2014-08-15 09:22:02 +0000 UTC]
Again, I feel this is unfair. I never disrespected you or your species. I am merely sticking up for what I believe is unjust.
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OldDallas In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-15 09:03:39 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry, I know its frustrating, but it is his speicies.
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coffaefox In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 09:21:17 +0000 UTC]
And this is my art. So clearly we are at an impass and I appologize to you and everyone else who got involved.
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OldDallas In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-15 09:23:02 +0000 UTC]
no worries dear i dont want any fighting ;o ;
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coffaefox In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 09:25:03 +0000 UTC]
Also, I have sold him so please tell super that he cannot take this design away from me.
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OldDallas In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-15 09:30:30 +0000 UTC]
To whom did you sell them to?
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coffaefox In reply to OldDallas [2014-08-15 09:40:35 +0000 UTC]
burnt-sonic
They payed me $10 earlier today to have custody over Patronum.
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struttons In reply to ??? [2014-08-14 20:34:19 +0000 UTC]
You forgot his star pupils. Those are required. And they do not have anthro forms.
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coffaefox In reply to struttons [2014-08-14 23:04:54 +0000 UTC]
got the pupils; and i looked back on your stardog reference sheet and nowhere does it say they don't have anthro forms : (
soz, but all of my characters I usually draw anthro.. i'm more of an anthro artist. Is there any way you could make an exception? It doesn't say stardogs aren't anthros on your sheet : ( I didn't know.
please?
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struttons In reply to coffaefox [2014-08-14 23:06:02 +0000 UTC]
No, I'm sorry. The species does not have anthro forms. I'm adding it to the sheet now.
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RoxyPaw In reply to struttons [2014-11-19 10:24:55 +0000 UTC]
You can't alter a contract. End of story.
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LordDauthdr In reply to struttons [2014-08-16 02:59:59 +0000 UTC]
To superdoq
Under section 201 of Title 11 (U.S. Copyright law) subsection B*, in the case of a work made for hire the "author" is considered to be the employer unless stated otherwise. Nowhere in your rules is this stated otherwise. Ergo, Miss coffaefox is the legal author of this character and has all exlusive rights except those agreed upon. For example, she does not have the right to sell for profit.
After reading your rules, I would say that you do NOT have the "right to take [the character] away in general". The character has been sold, not leased. Evidence of this is that, as stated above, those you deal with are the legal authors, as well as the bottom of your page in which you refer to the "flavours" and "owners" (flavours referencing "stardogs", as supported by the species guide).
Further, despite your claims to the "right to change any rules and add new ones", you legally do not have the right to add any rules to EXISTING CONTRACTS. In order to write a modification to any contract, you must allow all parties to read the modification BEFORE SIGNING, and allow them to ask questions**. This is to ensure that the various parties are not taken advantage of. In other words, while your no-anthro rule may apply to any future contracts (as you have added the rule "to your sheet"), it does not apply to THIS CONTRACT (based on the above comment). Ergo, you cannot terminate the contract. Your other rules do not apply to this situation.
I'm sorry to say this, but you cannot legally reclaim this character, as none of the (legal) rules that were agreed upon AT THE TIME OF SALE were violated.
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To Miss coffaefox
If you have not read what I have said above, the long and short of it is: go ahead and do what you wish with Patronum. And if you have to, take it to court. There is no way you could lose. You could probably even sue for all exclusive rights involving Patronum, and maybe even get a full refund (superdoq's attempt to reclaim can be seen as him breaking his contractual obligations)!
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To everyone else (and superdoq if he wants to tell me to butt out)
I am simply trying to make peace between both parties. Although any opinion I give has no legal standing (I am not a judge or juror), I do know the law. And the law is the same whether my oppinion matters or not. If anyone has any questions, I have provided my references below. For those who still have questions (which is probably everyone who had a question, since legalese is annoying), message me or comment at your convenience.
* www.copyright.gov/title17/92ch…
** contracts.lawyers.com/contract…
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burnt-sonic In reply to struttons [2014-08-14 23:17:24 +0000 UTC]
dude... i hate to be a killjoy, but you cant do that, after how long have you had this out, you cant just say "im adding it now" after she has finished a ref, you need that in the sheet first, you cant just forget something like that and just say it now and put "im adding it now" thats rude, and out of place. you better put that anthros are allowed because even tho you may not want them, you left it way to long to put it in and here is an artist who mainly does anthropomorphic characters, whats the point of having the character?, seriously man, thats out of line
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struttons In reply to burnt-sonic [2014-08-14 23:18:16 +0000 UTC]
It is my species. They paid for it. It is in my rules that I do not do refunds and I can add or change anything on my species at will. lease stay out of this.
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burnt-sonic In reply to struttons [2014-08-14 23:22:47 +0000 UTC]
why should i? what happens if someone else bought it for the same reason? are you going to pull the bad news on them as well at the last second after they spent time and effort on a ref sheet?
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struttons In reply to burnt-sonic [2014-08-14 23:25:17 +0000 UTC]
This has nothing to do with you, please stop arguing with me about MY species.
And yes, I will tell them that anthros are not allowed. They are free to sell it for the ammount of money they spent on it though, $10.
If this is argued anymore at all, both of their stardogs will be taken back and will be in my possession.
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burnt-sonic In reply to struttons [2014-08-14 23:33:44 +0000 UTC]
just saying, im not arguing, but just to put this out there, if you did take them back, without a refund, and against her will, that would be classed as a scam and theft. its good that she can resell them, but i really think its wrong that you just brought this up now, so to avoid any other complaints like this one in the future, make a journal explaining that they do not have anthro forms. make it clear and in all honesty, just be a little more clear next time
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struttons In reply to burnt-sonic [2014-08-15 07:30:31 +0000 UTC]
Please look up and refer to and educate yourself about copyright laws, hon!
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