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This is about European socialism not the French people.France is just stereotypical toon shorthand.
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Ugh...... i just... no...... i like i always say, if you have nothing nice to say, don't bother to say it at all, but you just really like to tempt so much people just hate us do you?Β you. Caring only for a few rather than most, you're the type of people that gives the Conservatives a bad picture, but you don't care for anyone of the outside world. I know what you're thinking, i know you've been to other counties in the world, but had you really absorb any real knowledge of those counties? And what the hell do you mean "France is just stereotypical toon shorthand" Don't act that America hadn't earned any stereotypes, believe me it earned a decent amount of it, most if the pictures are not the good side.
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could be about many things. Β Mexico, Β etc
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Except there isn't any Socialist nation in Europe... Nor anywhere else, unfortunately.
You really should read a few books on the subject of left-wing political theory, considering the almost child-like level of understanding that this piece (and most of your other submissions, for that matter) reveals. Going straight to the source would be logical. Might I suggest reading a little Proudhon, or maybe Rosa Luxemburg? I wouldn't advise Marx, at least not for a first foray into leftist literature. He's really boring, and a bit tough to read- and on a personal note, I find his interest in State power objectionable.
Just remember to keep an open mind, comrade.
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he's a hard core conservaive eusobios, reasoning with him about the outside world is so much harder than you think, even logic and reasoning isn't enough for him. Even if you pour down tons of legitimate knowledge, he would either try to disprove it or just ignores it and walks away. He won't delete the comment if your statement is true because if he did, you won over him.
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The only thing one needs to know about Socialism, Communism, and Marxism is that they all take what people have worked hard for and give it to those who don't work, and then execute anyone who doesn't agree with them.
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That is a fundamental misreading of the entire breadth of the Revolutionary Left. Progressives, certainly, advocate social safety nets and government relief for the unemployed (this is what I assume you're referring to), but among the actual far-left such programs are a point of contention. Among moderate socialists and social democrats, such things are popular. A more radical line of thinking (and the one to which I ascribe, incidentally) is that such programs have delayed the inevitable Revolution by acting as a safety valve for class consciousness, and allowing progressive politicians to seize most of the support base (urban workers) that the nascent socialist and communist parties in the early 20th Century.
As to executions, that's a baseless accusation, grounded most probably in your exceptional ignorance of political theory.
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My mind is closed to Socialism, citizen.
no hippies please.
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You failed to refute any of my points. I can only assume it is because of your aforementioned ignorance of this subject. I merely hoped to expand your mind beyond the small and close-minded world view that has been constructed for you by the pro-Capitalist media. Alas, it was in vain.
And I hate to inform you that I am not a hippie. The hippie movement has traditionally advocated for 'dropping out' of the political system, while I feel very much the opposite way. Hippie just seems to be another word you have a simplistic, naive understanding of.
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Once more, your post is completely devoid of substance. As is, I imagine, the logic behind your opinions.
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Or, rather, I should say 'my point,' as I really only made one.
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You should draw more of this and show the 99% of US citizens that are poor because of capitalism.
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I could but it would be inaccurate and help promote a sad, socialist myth. Silly lib, logic is for adults.
no hippies please.
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Oh, really? I guess you don't believe in global warming either, then.
No capitalists, please.
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Sure I do. The Illuminati keep it in Area 51 w/ the 911 bomb squad, bigfoot and ancient pyramid technology.
no hippies please.
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Wow. You really are over the edge.
No capitalists, please.
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no hippies please.
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No capitalists, please.
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Yes you could learn something, just as europeans could learn something from americans.
Like for example 9/11 when did the civil defence siren go off, where were the bomb shelters that would have stayed intact even after the main building has collapsed?
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You can't be serious.
no hippies please.
see FAQ.
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I am serious shelters are an very cost effective defence method not to mention the backup hospitals and other backup facilities underground for the case of the main unit being destroyed.
Now lets say that you have an generous two hours of warning time to react to an threat.
( For example you have discovered an surprise attack in time or found out that terrorist have placed an tactical nuclear warhead somewhere in New York. )
What can you do to reduce civilian casualties?
"Invincibility lies in the defence"
- Sun Tzu
Oh and you may call me an rookie/greenhorn/fledgling but the last time I cheked hippies don't attend to military training.
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no hippies please.
see FAQ.
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Soldiers count as hippies?
And yes I did read the FAQ and I'm neither an hippy nor an US hater.
Not let me get this straight you spend billions of dollars for an effective missile defence system and theres nothing wrong with that.
BUT you have neglected your last layer of defence.
Besides hippies are still in the south during this time of the year.
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Get a clue. There are too many people here for effective civil def. (which is why missiles & army)
Civil def is just a show to calm the public. We can't afford shelters for 350 million.
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Whoops that message was not supposed be sent yet.
Anyway you have an higher GDP per human and you can't afford an effective civil defence?
Of course you can its just a matter of priorising.
Do you think that we built enough bomb shelters for 3,2* million humans in just a couple years?
Hell no the work started during WWI and it will never end.
(Shelters have an extremely long lifespan so you can build them gradually.)
Also do you think that we have left our shelters unused?
Like for example three larger shelters in my town serve also as an
sports centre, planetarium and training center for firearms.
So when we build an shelter we also spare the price of making an building/facility with equal space.
Naturally smaller shelters are also used for something.
(Actually it was even cheaper to place the planetarium underground instead of an building.)
And when an town has been evacuated and fortified for combat the enemy invading it must fight in an three-dimensional space.
(We have also mainteance tunnels you know.)
Shelters are of course not enough for effective civil defence you must also:
-Have enough food/gasoline/coal/uranium/all sort of supplies in storage.
-Be prepared to evacuate and relocate civilians from cities or crisis areas.
-Have enough backup facilities.
Ect ect...
The question is: You sure can dish it out but can you also take it?
*This number does not include shrapnel/fallout shelters that won't survive an direct hit or military bunkers.
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There were many things wrong with 9/11. For instance how many of the terrorists were on the no fly list? But its not a matter of the government not affording the money, they didn't want to spend it. 9/11 was a perfect situation to control the population, and that's what they did. They used the attack on NYC to censor and control the people through the patriot act.
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see my FAQ
no hippies please.
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I want to see one of the BIG libs. on TV who give as much as Bill O'rilley to charities... (not PETA like ones though, those don't count) .........Mr. O'rilley is just SOOOOO selfish! There must be something wrong with him...
*oozing sarcasm*
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Bill Gives a lot true. Some libs do as well: Buffet, Turner, Gates, et al. But many do not. And when they say some have too much they always mean Others (not themselves) have too much and must pay more. Obama's "magic number" seems to be $250K/yr. Well he makes much more than that in salary & royalties,etc. I am not aware of him donating all excess to his favorite religion: government.
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We should accept socialism and UNIVERSAL health care! Despite the fact that Canada said that their health care was driving them to the ground and no European country is actually benefiting from socialism, just look at Greece...
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libs always think they are smarter/better than libs from other places - and therefore claim that is why socialism always fails. brilliant
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Here in Virginia, the liberals in the Chesapeake Bay area view the liberals in south-west Virginia as rednecks. I may not be a democrat, but that seriously ticks me off.
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The world is made up of clicks and clans. All part of the human thing.
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I'm sure the one percent of people who live like that in America are just so jealous of the one percent of the people who live like that in France.
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way to be deliberately obtuse.
no hippies please.
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What I said was obtuse, and what you said wasn't? The generalization in your post was simply ridiculous. While mine may have been off a little bit, the quality of life in France tends to be higher than America's.
Before you say it, I'll skip the next little back and forth.
BUT THAT IS BECAUSE OF SOCIALISM (note: You would mean "not 100% capitalist" here. Many people have no concept of there being a difference between mixed economies, socialism, and communism. You are one of these people.) AND THEY HAVE NO REAL CHANCE TO OWN A GOLF COURSE.
Yes they do. Plenty of people in France own their own golf courses.
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Hippies: creatures claiming a system works while it is falling apart.
Portugal Italy Greece Spain.
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We are talking about France here. I know this is about Europe in general, but you used France, because France's system is the most represented. In any case I will address your arguments.
Greece did not follow anything close to reality. They gave out gratuitous (for any country) social programs but did not raise taxes. It was not a tax-and-spend system, it was a spend system. Greece is not something that I think anyone can back. So I won't, and I did not.
Italy will recover from the recession faster than we will and has less unemployment than we do now. Portugal's economy is doing all-around better than ours. Yes, they were in trouble for a while, and still are, but if we have a more free system, then we should be doing better than them.
Of the four countries you listed, two of them are doing better, one failed because it isn't even really a system comparable to the rest of Europe's mixed systems, and Spain is an anomaly. If Europe's system is worse, then why is only one out of four a real example? And why did you not mention other countries?
Because Europe is, on average, doing better than us with their mixed economies.
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EU is doing better? I'm not sure what stats you are looking at. Seem we just "lent" billions we did not have to help prop up the EU for another month.
say no to pot.
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We've taken more loans from them by a long shot. At this point you're just spewing bullshit that you wish was true.
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What??? put the joint down.
no hippies please.
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You ask for no hippies because you're tired of losing every argument you have with any liberal, so you pretend we're not worth your oh-so-precious time that could be spent making a Rush Limbaugh stamp.
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I have more stamp on the way. Far more productive than this.
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mmhmm. So much more useful then having a clue as to what side, erm, really deserves some stamps.
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I really dont see the logic in saluting the poverty stricken US and mocking countries that actually doesnt have trailer parks...
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