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Published: 2011-02-27 20:00:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 9210; Favourites: 126; Downloads: 395
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"Ah, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? ... It is very cold in space..."Models by Alain Rivard
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Ricardo Montalban was a true KHAN artist! *rimshot*
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End of story! The REAL Khan!
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I've done far worse than kill you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me. As you left her. Marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet. Buried alive. Buried alive
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BTW... These windows in saucer section... are these bridge screencaps from ST VI?
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I had this poster once, one of my favs. But was this particular scene ever actually in the WOK movie?
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yes, but I think the enterprise was facing the other direction. but I remember the scene very well...
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Very pretty. Just a couple of nits to pick. No damage on the Photon Torpedo deck. (At this point the port side torpedo bay was destroyed by phaser fire.) And ya got the warp engines glowing. Otherwise this is a magnificant piece with great angles on both ships, a fantastic recreation of the Mutara Nebula and a very vivid star backdrop!
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Very nice
"We tried it once your way Khan, are you game for a rematch? ... Khan, I'm, laughing at the superior intellect."
"...Full Impulse Power!"
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Kirk: ... OK... let's recap; all this static discharging gas is clouding our tactical display, our visual does not function, our shields are useless... those sporadic energy readings we detected port side aft could have been an impulse turn, we don't know for sure... and yet we've just detected the Genesis wave on a build up to detonation... how does that... never mind.
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Very intense energy build up in the Genesis device. Simple!
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Not really. The explanation I just provided works just fine. The Genesis Device would very probably put off very intense energy readings, given what it does. Not to mention the USS Enterprise had closed in very tight with the USS Reliant with the intent of boarding and retaking her from Khan and Co, meaning whatever distortions were going on, were at their minimum. (IE: Less distance between the two ships)
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It was a joke. You know... funny ha-ha, set phasers on pun? Lots of my favorite movies have plot holes. It doesn't make them any less enjoyable.
*sigh*
But if you want to get technical...
We know that from other ST series (ST TNG; Dophan) that Federation ships cannot produce a terrawatt source. For the Genesis device to work, it would greatly exceed those energy requirements - but that point aside, it would be too much energy to read at that close range. The power needed to create 2 grams of matter (one penny) is a billion billion watts, (1 with 18 zeros behind it) roughly 100,000 times more power being generated earth-wide today. But we're not talking pennies, we're talking planets, so those numbers are already too low. But based on these numbers, the circuitry housed within the Enterprise would normally not be channeling that much energy feedback. The sensor array would be so bombarded by the waves that it would overload the system and fry it. The science station would suffer a complete system failure. Spock would be looking at a blank screen, while wondering to himself: "Is this the proper time for a colorful metaphor?"
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We're forgetting one thing. The Genesis device was "on a build up to detonation." Therefore, it wouldn't have been generating it's maximum energy when it was first detected, just enough to BE detected. Upon "critical mass" (detonation) I would entirely agree with that premise.
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*rubs head* Huh... must have hit my head harder than I thought. I could have sworn I was talking to a person not a wall.
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You know i'm right. Don't be such a poo face and start calling me wall. I'll have to resort to mother jokes.
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It's a simple math equation comrade. If it takes 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 watts of power to generate 2 grams of matter, multiply that number by the total mass of a planet... let's say 1 with 50 zeros behind it. Now divide that number by 4 minutes. How much energy would the Genesis Device have to produce each second to produce that much power? If the answer exceeds 1 terrawatt, then you have a plot hole because Federation Tech can't generate that much power. The Genesis Device would have to generate at least a billion-billion watts within a second in order to build up enough juice to create a planet. In which case that would cause a major overload on the Enterprise's systems.
Which only brings up another question, Genesis was designed to reform matter not create it. Exploding the way it did, instead of being delivered, would have off set it's use.
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I'll trust you at your word, sir.
Well, my response to the last part is that upon detonation it seems that the Mutara nebula completely disappears. Its possible that it absorbed the nebula, and the nearby planetoid Regula to create Genesis. (reorganising matter)
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Regula appears in later Star Trek books, so it's the nebula alone. But that doesn't matter, the Enterprises suddenly ability to track the Reliant was still a plot hole. If distance was the factor as you say, then how come a few minutes later they were still tracking it at 4,000 KM away?
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Energy building made Reliant easier to detect is my best guess. All that radiation would be hard to miss, even at 4000 kilometers.
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Well at least we know they did need warp speed to escape. The Genesis planet was larger than earth, but assuming it was the same size, they would have to at least reach a distance of 6,500 KMs in order to escape. Traveling at 1,142.8571 KMs per min that would have put them only at 4,571.4285 at the end of the 4 minute countdown. Roughly 2K short of the minimum safe distance.
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"No Kirk...You can't get away...from Hades heart I stab at thee...for hates sake I spit my last breath...at thee"
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fantastic work, just going to add some water to the "Insta-Fav" mix
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You know, next time I watch WoK, I need to have Mastodon's album Leviathan going, as that album was inspired by Moby Dick.
Kick-arse work as usual, this time updating an iconic pre-production (or was it pre-release?) picture!
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way to go kirk u terminated kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnk you
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Um, Kahn sir, I think we've got a leak somewhere....
Epic pic
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"Scotty I need warp speed in three minutes or we're all dead"!
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"It shall be done, Exalted Fleetlord!"
Oops, wrong universe
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Taking a closer look at that plasma trail, I think it would have worked better if you lessened the effect the further it got from the Reliant. And if the end is the start of it all with the nacelle being blown away, a small cloud from said explosion would have been a good touch to add.
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I was happy I managed to do this...
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You captured the preproduction pic perfectly!
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Thank you very much!
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