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Published: 2018-09-28 18:20:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 13811; Favourites: 198; Downloads: 87
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Description Pensive Bagoas. What is he thinking about? ... Probably about Alexander.
Close up .

P. S. Bagoas is the historical person, he is a MALE and he was a Persian eunuch, who become a beloved of Alexander the Great.
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Neanderthal09 [2024-03-24 12:47:42 +0000 UTC]

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Develv In reply to Neanderthal09 [2024-03-25 04:28:07 +0000 UTC]

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andronikihetalia [2021-01-27 19:32:24 +0000 UTC]

Woah this looks so amazing

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Hekate321 [2019-01-16 09:28:06 +0000 UTC]

He is so gorgeous, standing there deep in thought, his mind focused ready to act on a moment's notice. The way he dresses is lost in this day and age it makes me sad............

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Develv In reply to Hekate321 [2019-01-19 11:40:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I'm pleased with your assessment!

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Hekate321 In reply to Develv [2019-01-19 16:22:28 +0000 UTC]

No problem your art is truly wonderful.

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Develv In reply to Hekate321 [2019-01-23 18:33:26 +0000 UTC]

Aw...^3^

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LucilliaSnowfox [2018-09-29 06:05:03 +0000 UTC]

I love the thoughtful look on his face! He doesnt look worried or super focused on something, but he's definitely in deep thought. Probably questioning his ane Alexander's allies or maybe a plan/thought Alexander made and he's not fully certain on it? Either way, his expression is interesting in a good way.

Also I love how simple and elegant his robes are. Nice contrast against his skin and hair.

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Develv In reply to LucilliaSnowfox [2018-09-29 14:36:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you ^^ Yeah, maybe. Honestly, when I painted him, I imagined that he has deep philosophical thoughts; about life and death, about the frailty of being, that greatest empires come and go, but only love and spiritual essence remains. And he would like to share love with Alexander, because they have so little time to be together, to be live... so that. 

I like to create such contrasts, simple and clear forms, and put meaning into the image

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SelflessDevotions [2018-09-28 23:08:35 +0000 UTC]

What a beauty! <3

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Develv In reply to SelflessDevotions [2018-09-29 06:23:51 +0000 UTC]

<3

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DreamyNaria [2018-09-28 20:24:43 +0000 UTC]

Do you think that the Begoas in the film Alexander is realistic? yours makes me think of him only slightly more feminine.

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Develv In reply to DreamyNaria [2018-09-29 06:23:20 +0000 UTC]

Not really. Firstly Bagoas in the film Alexander is too masculine to a eunuch (who was castrated from childhood). You should know anatomy of eunuchs, if they were castrated from childhood their body will develop very feminine because of absence of testosterone. 
Here shows the difference between a eunuch, a man and a woman.

And also his face in movie is not really Persian, although at first glance it seems like a Persian (but he is beautiful and pretty, so, in any case, an interesting image). The representatives of the peoples of Iran have milder and soft features and bigger eyes. Also in ancient Persia white/pale skin was esteemed.
When Alexander first meets Bagoas, Curtius describes him as "a eunuch exceptional in beauty and in the very flower of boyhood".
Based on these data, you can imagine a more realistic portrait of historical Bagoas.


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DreamyNaria In reply to Develv [2018-09-30 17:03:06 +0000 UTC]

Ah, in Iran women seem European, because they are white.
I do not know how  is an eunuch, I only saw the images of Chinese eunuchs.
but the Chinese seem to me all the same in the face, there is not much difference between man and woman.
There aren't anymore eunuchs now  it is impossible to get an idea without real people. 

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Develv In reply to DreamyNaria [2018-09-30 17:34:24 +0000 UTC]

Maybe, some of the Persian eunuchs look like Ali Rimal
siringadev.tumblr.com/post/174…

Or like this beautiful one in red dress: siringadev.tumblr.com/post/178…

I have one real eunuch friend, and he is very feminine and pretty handsome. But he too shy to show his photo to other people, because... you know, there is a lot of misunderstanding, ridicule, stupid questions or vulgar sentences to real eunuchs. In fact, there are many eunuchs in the modern time, but they are hidden, as gays once ago were in times of severe homophobia and persecution

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DreamyNaria In reply to Develv [2018-09-30 17:59:15 +0000 UTC]

The trans, however, have some male characteristics because they usually change sex after puberty a eunuch I think would have a more delicate beauty. 
I always thought: who knows if they were in love or sexually attracted to someone?
Maybe Begoas was only romantically in love with Alexander, but not sexually being eunuch. 

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Develv In reply to DreamyNaria [2018-10-01 08:06:00 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, of course, ancient eunuch (who was castrated from childhood) have more delicate and soft features. The most close to the eunuchs are those men who have congenital androgenic insensitivity syndrome on the middle form. Of course, eunuchs are different, someone more masculine, someone more feminine, it depends on genetic predisposition, caring for themselves and many other factors. Like all ordinary men and women also.

Eunuchs have no sexual desire, they have no physical need for it. But some are able to experience romantic love, affection, attraction to beloved person, and they are able to have sexual relations for the feelings of a loved one and have enjoy. But these feelings are much more delicate, and they experience this differently. But most of eunuchs are asexual and even aromantic.
Therefore, in Byzantium, eunuchs were considered identical to angels in purity and chastity, and there were many eunuchs among monks and ministers of the church.

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TheFireCircleYagna In reply to Develv [2019-05-03 15:08:25 +0000 UTC]

aaaand the beauty of eunuchs was a temptation to the monks!

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Mahasu [2018-09-28 18:23:25 +0000 UTC]

A beauty adorned in purple~ <3

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Develv In reply to Mahasu [2018-09-29 06:23:37 +0000 UTC]

 

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