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Description As you can probably guess, this work draws from both Lewis Carroll and Expressionism. Also, there is some Jungian thing going on with the shadow.

I dedicate this work to `saintartaud , because she's awesome. She has been very influential on my cultural development, pointing me to artists, films, books, comics, musicians and other things I wouldn't know about if she hadn't recommended them. This work is a "thank you" card of sorts for her. For you, AR.

Stock by ~SmileEmptyStock
The little snail thing I got from sxc.hu
Shadow was hand-made.
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the6th [2007-04-27 22:15:19 +0000 UTC]

Its soo expressive

Nice work!* (:

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ptronic In reply to ??? [2007-01-26 14:50:40 +0000 UTC]

Sorry but I didn't get it, only saw a shadow going to do an uplift, hate missing themes. Could you give me a hunch on the theme of the shadow you where refering to?

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disintegration In reply to ptronic [2007-01-26 18:41:45 +0000 UTC]

Carl Jung was a psychologist who developed his own model to study the human mind, founding what is known as analytical psychology. In this theory, much like Freud, he insisted on the existence of an "unconscious" which played a huge part on the way people are and react to their environment.

Well, according to Jung, one of the parts that makes this unconscious is what he called "the shadow aspect", which is basically everything in us that is repressed and denied, things we can't imagine there's in us and we wouldn't want to have. For example, nobody in the world is completely good or completely bad, but people who identifies themselves as kind unconsciously deny the harshness in them and blocks it from their personality. You could say the shadow pretty much holds all the things we don't want or like. As our unconscious mind decides not to let us cope with them, it sort of stores them "in the back", in a place where they can't harm us and where we can ignore them. But they never really go away, unless we face them and integrate them to ourselves or using them as a starting point for our transmutation.


Not that I believe all of that, of course. The unconscious mind hasn't been proven to exist -yet everybody takes it as granted without much questioning-, and basically most of psychoanalysis is really just a big pile of dud that is only keeping psychology from advancing further... but the Jungian archetypes and their possible representations make up for nice stuff to make artwork from.

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ptronic In reply to disintegration [2007-01-26 19:53:50 +0000 UTC]

So this deviation means that the facade she laborously build is being destroyed by the parts she repressed? Mah, I believe in the sub-conscious, seems to explain a lot of things, although I think most of it is composed of piles of information the brain doesn't know where to store. You are a self-made psychologist or something? What is your view on the subject then if you reject the concept of layers?

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disintegration In reply to ptronic [2007-01-26 20:14:42 +0000 UTC]

In so many words, it means she's going to get destroyed by the things she ignores about herself.




You are a self-made psychologist or something?

No. I'm merely a man of science.

The subconscious certainly would explain a lot of things, but we have no substantial or empirical evidence to believe it's real. It's pretty much like God, which also provides answers to things that are otherwise inexplicable, but there's no damn way of proving if such thing as a deity even exists; people believe because it's convenient, not because they have piles of evidence to support the claim. There is no evidence supporting the existance of the subconscious. Psychoanalysis is, at the moment, not science. What it attempts to explain can (and will) be covered by the many branches of neurology.

This whole thing about "shadows" and "layers" sound good enough for a philosophy class, but definitely not for psychology (which I believe to be, in its best moments, a science.)

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ptronic In reply to disintegration [2007-01-27 00:18:20 +0000 UTC]

It's still in it's infancy, so far only the basic functions of the brain are known (at least up to my knowledge), how it's stores data and how higher faculties are applied is a mystery. There is a need to explain these abilities and to try and treat them. The concept of the unconscious is a bit like a castle built in the sand, but it's the most stable thing at the moment.

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disintegration In reply to ptronic [2007-01-27 05:26:24 +0000 UTC]

so far only the basic functions of the brain are known (at least up to my knowledge)

Well, there you go. You need to catch up

The official journal of the American Academy of Neurology is a good place to start. [link]

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ptronic In reply to disintegration [2007-01-27 10:54:07 +0000 UTC]

You still haven't told me how you think it is structured.

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disintegration In reply to ptronic [2007-01-27 17:57:47 +0000 UTC]

What, the mind? Memories? The complete processes of the brain?

The idea of "layers" is supported only by psychoanalysis. As far as I know (I certainly admit not to be an expert on the subject) the process of memory and memory retaining is a set of links and connections between groups of neurons that participate in a process of encoding, which can take place in several parts of the brain. Recollection of a memory happens when one of this connections is stimulated by something (a visual, a sound, a scent, a taste...). When people can't remember something -what Freud and Jung referred to as "repressed memories"- it's because either the group of neurons has been destroyed (after all, neurons ain't forever) or because of brain damage or a chemical imbalance.

Again, I'm not an expert on the matter. I just think that the answers provided by psychoanalysis can't be validated through experiment, therefore I find it silly to accept them as factual just like that.

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ptronic In reply to disintegration [2007-01-27 19:22:57 +0000 UTC]

When you can't remember something it's because the connections between neurons are not so efficient. The more you practice something the more you re-inforce these links, but the actual format in which information is stored is unknown. Brain parts are being mapped (different people may have slightly transfered or enlarged regions due to the plasticity of the brain) recently the altruistic region and the addiction redions have been mapped. Don't know about you but I prefare a punctured parashoot instead of nothing at all. Did you have any article in particular in mind you wanted me to look?

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Miserycorde In reply to ??? [2007-01-15 23:50:52 +0000 UTC]

Very great picture! ^-^

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sokissme9 [2006-12-24 07:02:27 +0000 UTC]

Thats really amazing. Very nice work.

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ChesyreFrog [2006-12-18 19:57:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for a beautiful picture, and introduction to Carl Jung.

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Spoolaroo [2006-12-10 19:38:51 +0000 UTC]

Amazing. I love it.

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xxintoxicatedxx [2006-12-07 09:06:57 +0000 UTC]

stunning

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kagami-gakure [2006-11-29 00:41:15 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is really pretty! beautifully composed, and the pose of the model is beyond BELIEF. The title also helps clarify what you are striving for, here. Bloody good work.

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NioTheDreamer In reply to ??? [2006-11-24 04:10:58 +0000 UTC]

Its such an engaging photo. I know not what is going on and yet their is such a strong narative to it. I see a figure in an unusual position and then a shadow with something usual as well. It strikes up a tension, one that unnerves me.

Well done

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moistlips In reply to ??? [2006-11-14 01:23:56 +0000 UTC]

I love that shadow! Great Job!

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LadyChikititaBlue [2006-11-02 21:35:03 +0000 UTC]

+ Some months ago i saw a drawing depicting pretty much what is shown here but with different colors, i feel ashamed, i liked that one, but the original is much more interesting and deep (:

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thedigitalkill [2006-10-05 02:36:54 +0000 UTC]

I love this!!! It's simply amazing

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disintegration In reply to thedigitalkill [2006-10-05 02:39:26 +0000 UTC]

Why, thank you

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Scipio21 [2006-10-01 18:44:00 +0000 UTC]

oh i like this!

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lacerate666 [2006-07-10 02:48:16 +0000 UTC]

I LOVE THIS

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oblivion-sight [2006-06-04 18:25:49 +0000 UTC]

really great

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TwistedxImagination [2006-06-03 23:30:48 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is great, I like her point shoes and the shadow is wicked*faves*

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cybertrash4point0 [2006-06-01 18:50:28 +0000 UTC]

this is beautiful. good work! XD

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Mortis-of-midian [2006-05-18 17:09:49 +0000 UTC]

cool

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WaningMoon13 [2006-05-08 18:27:22 +0000 UTC]

This has amazing emotion and it was beautifully executed. Wonderful work!

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WhoTookVaron [2006-04-30 02:42:54 +0000 UTC]

It looks like she's going to get goosed by a skeleton.

I find it cute.

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DukeOfNoodleness [2006-04-18 20:27:16 +0000 UTC]

truely beautiful. Well done!

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badwitch31 [2006-03-06 05:43:30 +0000 UTC]

wonderful work, really nice piece.

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DancingInTheFlames [2006-02-20 19:07:21 +0000 UTC]

this is soo cool. Im a dancer and i love the use of contemperary themes with traditional dance. Good work. Keep it up

KB

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nadiapinup In reply to ??? [2006-02-17 22:24:36 +0000 UTC]

wonderful

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abandoned-essence In reply to ??? [2006-01-27 04:00:33 +0000 UTC]

=O Wow. That's awesome.

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EbonyRayne [2006-01-24 14:24:54 +0000 UTC]

wow, amazing.

i must say though, my friend did a painting almost exactly like this last year...i wonder if she got it from you?

it's a beautiful image tho. great job.

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Lyttah [2006-01-07 01:30:46 +0000 UTC]

Great horror!

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glitterdarkstar [2005-11-24 18:03:57 +0000 UTC]

are mexican genious????
I Think some of you malkes stunning pics

and regards

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disintegration In reply to glitterdarkstar [2005-11-24 18:23:20 +0000 UTC]

Not all Mexicans are genius but we've actually had a few (including the guy who invented color TV and Juan Rulfo, who is one of the best writers ever)


Anyways, thank you for the compliment. Much appreciated

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glitterdarkstar In reply to disintegration [2005-11-24 18:38:21 +0000 UTC]

a friend of mine on dA =temoc makes fantastic pics .. as you
and he is mexican
so it's was an half- joke
your pic is extraordinary

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gr3nadine In reply to ??? [2005-11-11 17:53:20 +0000 UTC]

strange, i like.

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Noneedforben [2005-10-28 20:31:14 +0000 UTC]

A very nice piece of work, it reminds me of "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", to a point. Vunerability springs to mind too.

All in all, a fantastic job.

Well done.

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BernadetteWall In reply to ??? [2005-09-24 22:57:26 +0000 UTC]

This is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen. You did the marvalously.
Incredible!

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yegeun [2005-09-19 04:37:33 +0000 UTC]

god.. it's just AMAZING!

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philosmatika [2005-09-17 10:43:48 +0000 UTC]

Stunning my friend... It's genuis

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letterxbomb In reply to ??? [2005-09-14 08:02:41 +0000 UTC]

This is awesome, I love it. Adding it to my favorites. Defaintly.

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annekaretnikov [2005-09-10 17:36:37 +0000 UTC]

go-d this is GREAT. it's full of all sorta of things that i adore- too many to count.
it appeals to the eyes and sence of beauty while feeding the Id. *grin*

ALK
~
β€œThe bird of Hermes is my name
eating my wings to make me tame”

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malbolgia In reply to ??? [2005-08-31 14:42:43 +0000 UTC]

great work

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vampire-bunnies In reply to ??? [2005-07-25 00:10:43 +0000 UTC]

ahhhh love it!!!!! *adds to faves* great job!!!

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smashingpumpkins86 [2005-07-12 19:42:55 +0000 UTC]

very nightmare-ish!

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anthony-pace [2005-07-02 05:24:01 +0000 UTC]

I really like this.great sense of focal direction and of looming danger.

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