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Fall of Satan, Once the angel of light, now by the Light he shall fall.*And there was war in heaven.* Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Later in Luke 10: 17 - 20, the seventy-two disciples return from a mission with joy and said to Jesus, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name." He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."
Jesus referred to the war in heaven because he was there. Jesus is the Word Incarnate; the Word that created all things, including Lucifer and it is against Jesus, the Word; truth, that Lucifer rebelled, and that war continues to this very day.
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DemonicFury5678 [2025-04-02 00:32:47 +0000 UTC]
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gabriellestory [2023-04-21 09:34:43 +0000 UTC]
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ristic12 [2021-06-28 09:58:58 +0000 UTC]
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Oysterking45 [2017-04-17 15:26:26 +0000 UTC]
God be like: THATS WHAT YOU GET! THAT'S WHAT YOU GET, YA BRAT!
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4eyes0soul [2016-09-16 00:22:30 +0000 UTC]
Slaves do tend to rebel against cruel masters. This is what happens when the slave rebellion is crushed and the rebels exiled. Egomaniacal dictators tend not to realize that exiling rebels doesn't stop rebellion.
So while Heaven only accepts the ignorant and craven, Hell stands open to all.
How do you win a war when all you have is fools and madmen and your enemy has the rest?
You don't.
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WolfofSatanas [2016-03-04 23:13:05 +0000 UTC]
But the dragon shall return, and slay the true evil of this world. Humanity shall be set free. Find out here: Joyofsatan.org
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hannahelizabethh [2014-08-05 03:42:20 +0000 UTC]
love this one!
(i'm a christian and this artwork pleases me.)
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aladd02 [2014-01-24 16:08:15 +0000 UTC]
Hey I really dig this image. A College Christian Brotherhood I'm organizing at Shepherd University is looking for cool images of Michael and the angels to use in ads and maybe t-shirts. I think it would be cool to have an image of the fallen as well. Would you mind if we use your image in any of this? If not I understand.
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DreadJim In reply to aladd02 [2014-01-27 13:26:06 +0000 UTC]
hi~ hmm contact me for more specific instructions yeah!?
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Ole-Ingvar [2013-11-22 11:38:21 +0000 UTC]
If devil reminds your past to you, remind his future to him.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-09-16 00:24:25 +0000 UTC]
History is written by the winners and egomaniacal tyrants often commission flattering works about themselves.
Of course there is a double standard when it comes to gods and humans.
At least The Devil has never lied.
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RidersofArmageddon In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-11-04 11:35:10 +0000 UTC]
Clearly you don't know how God works. Neither can I know how He does things. God's ways are higher than our standards, and His thoughts are not our thoughts.
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4eyes0soul In reply to RidersofArmageddon [2016-11-04 15:11:45 +0000 UTC]
How do YOU know that? You just said we can't know, which is itself a claim.
And which god are you talking about? There are hundreds of thousands at the very least that have been worshiped.
But since there's no evidence any god exists that's besides the point.
So it's on you to:
1. Prove a god exists.
2. Prove it's the god you worship.
3. Prove that it's the way you claim it is.
Since nobody has gotten past #1 (due to the complete absence of evidence of any god or gods) you're unlikely to have anything new.
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RidersofArmageddon In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-11-04 23:38:20 +0000 UTC]
The God I believe is Yahweh, the one who created the Heavens and the Earth; and the one who layed down His life for us through Yeshua (Yahweh incarnate as a man) so that we can be saved.
With every intelligent design there must always be a maker whose intelligence surpasses what we cannot comprehend. Only in His Word, the Bible, can we know who He is. If you're just goig to say stuff that attempts to debunk the point, it's just your heart that wants to deny its Maker, give praise to the creation, and live a life free of consequences.
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4eyes0soul In reply to RidersofArmageddon [2016-11-05 00:54:53 +0000 UTC]
There's no evidence of that.
And superstition is losing ground, just look at this: www.prri.org/research/prri-rns-2016-religiously-unaffiliated-americans
Your brand of unthinking willful ignorance is being rejected in the modern era as knowledge is much easier to access, especially all the lies religions have been telling.
As for your blatantly false claims about my "secretly believing" in your magical space ghost, try telling that to a Muslim, Jew, or Zoroastrian.
You're too cowardly to attack other religions because you know they'll strike back and be protected for it. So you lash out at atheists in a pathetic attempt to shore up your crumbling faith.
Goodbye
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RidersofArmageddon In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-11-12 14:31:18 +0000 UTC]
If what I believed in was a lie, then the men who bore witness would have never been put to death, and we would not have this conversation.
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4eyes0soul In reply to RidersofArmageddon [2016-11-12 16:48:48 +0000 UTC]
You fail again:
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument…
By your reasoning the 9/11 hijackers were right, since they were willing to give their lives for their cause.
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RidersofArmageddon In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-11-13 02:37:32 +0000 UTC]
Are you merely getting your info from org pages that can be altered...-_-
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4eyes0soul In reply to RidersofArmageddon [2016-11-13 03:13:00 +0000 UTC]
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_martyrdom
"trivially false: through history, many people have died in the service of provable lies. As this is a common argument, detailed refutations have been compiled."
If you disagree with this, then the 9/11 hijackers were right, since they martyred themselves. If you agree with it, you agree that you are wrong.
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RidersofArmageddon In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-11-13 07:48:52 +0000 UTC]
During the early days of Christianity, the people who practiced it faced persecution under Jewish and Roman authorities. I want to continue my stand but you'll continually "demand evidence" and state what I believe is wrong and crazy. So, I'll leave a few passages that may be more than 1,000 years old but they answer the nature of man.
Romans 3:10-18 (KJV)
10 As it was written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that skeet after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace they have not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Romans 3:23 (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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4eyes0soul In reply to RidersofArmageddon [2016-11-13 23:45:34 +0000 UTC]
BULLSHIT
People have died for Islam, Scientology, and homeopathic medicine and defied the authorities to do so. By your reasoning all of those things are true. Special Pleading: yourlogicalfallacyis.com/speci…
Circular reasoning again, and this time you're ignoring the fact that other cultures had better descriptions before christianity was fabricated.
You're ignoring every Greek and Roman philosopher, just for starters.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category…
And you're quoting Romans.
The part that says that only rule by kings is legitimate. I guess you really hate democracy. Or are you saying the bible is wrong?
It also says atheists don't exist. We do. Therefore your bible is shown to be wrong yet again.
Keep it coming, I can debunk your all of your claims, because you haven't brought up anything that hasn't already been refuted.
"The fool has said from his mouth 'I don't need evidence,' They are ignorant, they have done no work, there is none that can prove their claims."
-Me
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-09-16 06:08:10 +0000 UTC]
John 8:44 He [devil] was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-09-16 15:42:33 +0000 UTC]
And what lies has he told?
The bible lists none. It just calls him a liar.
It's a standard political tactic, just call you opponent a liar even if they haven't.
You'd think a being who created the universe wouldn't need to descend to that level.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-09-16 17:13:58 +0000 UTC]
So man willingly disobey Most High in Eden? No, man listen to the liar and believe him.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-09-16 19:04:11 +0000 UTC]
North Korean textbooks say that the problems there are caused by evil enemies too.
You sound like a brainwashed North Korean when you use such a biased source.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-09-19 09:52:49 +0000 UTC]
Do you have another solid explanation,why do we live in such chaotic world?
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-09-20 02:15:07 +0000 UTC]
Because that's how it is.
The universe is about 14 billion years old.
The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.
Life on Earth began about 3.8 billion years ago.
Where you see chaos, there's natural processes at work. Unless you're talking about humans, in which case intelligence has given us a greater ability to delude ourselves and kill each other in the name of those delusions.
Why should there be more?
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-09-20 07:20:22 +0000 UTC]
How do you know, what that billions of years are true? Do you check it?
If all ppl know Truth - so there's couldn't be delusions.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-09-20 19:10:53 +0000 UTC]
Yes, it can be checked. Otherwise it wouldn't be scientific.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence…
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-09-30 12:05:09 +0000 UTC]
I mean - personally. Otherwise it's not science. Just mutual responsibility
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-09-30 15:58:20 +0000 UTC]
How would I "Personally" check?
If you means was I there, no I was not. But the evidence is.
Are you saying something didn't happen unless someone observes it?
If so then you shouldn't call the police when your house gets broken into while you aren't home, since no crime was committed.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-03 13:56:04 +0000 UTC]
How can you check, what Earth is billion years? How can you check, what evolution does take place? You can't. So you just BELIEVE is faceless impersonate Casuality/Random, which has been given/taught in schoolbooks. But if just look over the schoolbook - you'll see Creator.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-03 16:06:42 +0000 UTC]
You actually can check:
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence…
www.newscientist.com/article/d…
Your fault for not doing a simple Google search.
Confirmation bias and motivated reasoning much?
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-05 10:52:36 +0000 UTC]
This proofs exists only on paper, sir.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-05 20:47:02 +0000 UTC]
No, your proof only exists on paper, since the bible has no evidence beyond itself.
Circular Reasoning:www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/66/Circular-Reasoning
So now you're projecting.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-07 11:39:17 +0000 UTC]
So you can dig up dinosaur bone and make RCA for it freely?
Bible changed my life. It's Author heals my backbone (I should be paralyzed now). That's the evidence.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-07 13:31:12 +0000 UTC]
DNA doesn't last that long. There are other ways of checking age:
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence…
And your "healing" is not evidence at all.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Improbab…
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miracle#Argument_from_Miracles
So you just showed ignorance of the science involved and tried to use a "miracle" to justify the existence of something that it wouldn't prove. Isn't it strange how your god healed you but not any of the other people? It's because there was no god involved.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-07 13:53:49 +0000 UTC]
DNA is coded and archived information. For such things intelligence is needed.
And miraculous healing doesn't prove anything?
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-07 15:14:17 +0000 UTC]
1. You don't understand what DNA is: rationalwiki.org/wiki/DNA
2. You haven't proved it was a miracle. Improbable things happen, and you haven't even proven that.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-10 09:11:42 +0000 UTC]
DNA is block of data. Bit is also block of data. Bit was CREATED, same as DNA. Also DNA has a repair mechanism, otherwise it fails. Coincidence?
What proofs do you want? Medical document? Even if I had such, you'll said "Photoshop detected".
Your arguments also couldn't be checked directly, so you do BELIEVE is what some books said.
I also believe, what Bible said.
Main difference between us - my beliefs works in my life. Yours ?
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-10 14:56:07 +0000 UTC]
My links directly refuted what you said there and what you just said and provided evidence for it. You ignored that and continued making false assertions.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge."
-Charles Darwin
You are an example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-…
Why not reject all science and start attacking gravity too? Evolution is better understood than gravity after all.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php…
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-11 07:47:42 +0000 UTC]
Articles, articles...can you DIRECTLY check what they are talking about? BY YOUR OWN HANDS? No. And you won't. So why do you believe in evolution?
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-11 13:37:53 +0000 UTC]
And yet again you show your ignorance of science.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientif…
There is overwhelming evidence for evolution, it's better understood than gravity. You have no evidence, so not only have you not met the burden of proof, you have the same amount as any other religion: zero.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-18 12:07:34 +0000 UTC]
Article, posted by someone, couldn't be an evidence.
Christianity is not a religion - it's live relationships with Most High.
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-18 15:19:48 +0000 UTC]
Not that bull$#1t claim again.
Christianity is a religion. It meets the exact definition of a religion, so it is.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christia…
Prove your god exists. If you can't then stop asserting it does or what it wants.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-19 07:48:02 +0000 UTC]
Don't mix Christianity with Catholicism (i.e. sun-worship pagan cult with Christian labels).
Proofs are all around you. Prove, what all this comes 'accidentally' .
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4eyes0soul In reply to Ole-Ingvar [2016-10-19 19:34:03 +0000 UTC]
I don't.
Because that's not what I'm saying.
It's on you to prove what you're saying. So prove it.
All you've done is make completely subjective assertions and then attack a straw man.
Again: Prove your god exists.
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Ole-Ingvar In reply to 4eyes0soul [2016-10-20 07:49:53 +0000 UTC]
Shall once again - DNA is coded and zipped information with auto-repair function. Such things could be "coincidentally"? I don't think so.
Enjoy
creation.com/DNA-repair-enzyme
also
christiannews.net/2016/02/01/a…
Can't wait for proofs, what such things can appear coincidentally.
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