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**DO NOT COPY, TRACE, STEAL, CLAIM AS YOUR OWN, UPLOAD ELSEWHERE ELSE WITHOUT PERMISSION BLAH BLAH BLAH**This has been sitting on my HD for ages and I think I can't improve it any further.
The real reason why I chose the cheesy Light Side ending instead of the super cool Dark Side one in Kotor 1 was preventing Juhani (and all the other good-hearted companions) from disapproving my actions and killing themselves by attacking me - and leaving Revan alone with Bastila as apprentice.
This is how it should have ended :3
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Herokiller12344 [2023-03-01 06:39:40 +0000 UTC]
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Gorgo-the-Outlander [2013-07-18 01:59:09 +0000 UTC]
I approve of the defiantly uncanonical female Revan. Everybody knows Revan was really a woman, right? Bah! Canon schmanon!
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DarthNuja In reply to Gorgo-the-Outlander [2024-06-03 23:15:56 +0000 UTC]
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IndorilNerevar [2013-06-19 22:04:24 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you. Juhani should have turned to the dark side as well. I wish they hadn't have made the light side ending canonical. I like to pretend that SWTOR never happened.
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NoyTelinu [2013-06-04 09:52:00 +0000 UTC]
Agree! Revan is a lesbian too! No way she would let some whiny man deflower her! ^_^
Plus, this way, Bastila is there too...
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NoyTelinu In reply to ImperialChrome [2013-06-08 12:54:46 +0000 UTC]
Lalalalalalala!!
Can't hear you!
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ImperialChrome In reply to NoyTelinu [2013-06-13 03:47:32 +0000 UTC]
lol, I'll let you think what you want as long as you enjoy the game and the characters within.
But remember that Revan is according to canon male, so don't get pissed if people point it out in the future if you're in a discussion about it.
Don't know if it makes things better or worse for you, but before his mind was wiped, he was a homosexual man. Take that information as you will though.
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NoyTelinu In reply to ImperialChrome [2013-06-15 05:23:26 +0000 UTC]
I know...
Why exile female and Revan male? Handmadien is better! And Juhani is better than Carth!
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ApolloNight [2012-11-13 17:42:02 +0000 UTC]
I KNOW, I mean the whole game Juhani is talking about how she still feels the darkness in her, and how easy she is to anger. Revan could have easily turned her to the dark side if she just gave it half a thought.
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AQA473 In reply to ApolloNight [2012-12-08 16:07:16 +0000 UTC]
When was this comment posted? November 13th? What's today... the 7th... eh, close enough. I couldn't disagree with you more. Juhani has always been on the side of the light. It's true that she's always talking about how she so easily turned in the beginning and is amazed at how light side Revan can avoid the dark side so easily but she just doesn't take credit for her own actions. When you talk to her in conversations, see her in combat, saying back-seat comments when you're in the field, she always exudes benevolence and acceptance, forgiveness and charity. She has learned from her past and, while she turned once, she would not dare return to it. While she cares for Revan, I can see why she'd turn on them in a moment if they went to the dark side. Juhani is not so weak like Bastila. This ending here, while pretty, is entirely unrealistic. I can definitely see Jack in Juhani's place (same voice actress) I cannot see Juhani standing on the pedestal of darkness.
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ApolloNight In reply to AQA473 [2012-12-08 21:17:26 +0000 UTC]
I see where your coming from, but a BIG part of the dark side is that ANYONE can fall to it, no mater how good or strong they are. And Juhani has some anger issues, the rage she feels at the man that killed her father and wants to buy her is very interesting and I just feel like a sith lord could easly exploit this. I just feel that (while it may not be "easy" for someone that tried to reinforce the light side throw out the whole game, but someone who plays on the dark side and chose those options can maybe influence her.)
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AQA473 In reply to ApolloNight [2012-12-08 23:37:45 +0000 UTC]
I don't think she'd let it get her to the point of going full sith. With the guy who killed her father, you can convince her to kill him but then she swears to never do it again and feels awful afterwards. Also, I'd imagine she'd lose a little bit of trust in Revan after that. A big part of the light side is that anyone can return to it and has to desire to do so no matter how far they fall. Well, except maybe Malak but he's missing a jaw so he doesn't count. Jawless people aren't real people.
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ApolloNight In reply to AQA473 [2012-12-09 04:00:12 +0000 UTC]
you argument about Malak is so flawless I can do nothing but aplaude you sir or ma'am.
I undertsand what your saying but I mean from a writers point of view it would have been nice to get someone ANYONE besides Bastial. It gives the Sith ending a bit of a short leash I think.
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AQA473 In reply to ApolloNight [2012-12-09 07:43:26 +0000 UTC]
Ok, I agree with you there. While I definitely don't think Juhani should go sith, I do think that a few other members could have. Maybe Mission and Big Z because he's got a life-debt and she goes where he does. Canderous naturally because he's a fucking madalorian and respects the hell out of Revan. I'm surprised he didn't jump at the chance to join him/her. HK-47 was Revan last assassin droid so of course he would go sith and T3-M4 would follow because he's just a droid that's owned by Revan. Jolee, Carth, and Juhani I think should have been the only ones to turn from the dark side because they're, like, super benevolent.
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AQA473 In reply to ApolloNight [2012-12-09 22:59:18 +0000 UTC]
Here here. Or hear hear. Or here hear. I forget, but whatever it-
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Allronix [2012-09-18 10:15:21 +0000 UTC]
Y'know, that could work. And I dig the idea of Juhani in the lover and apprentice position. As much as I adore her on the Light Side, a Dark Side Juhani would probably make for the kind of apprentice who could see the big picture and strike Revan down when the time was right.
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LaCabezaDelCastor [2012-05-03 10:02:44 +0000 UTC]
Yes! Malak was a sissy anyways, it is only fitting that Revan take his head!
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cooljoe123 [2011-12-31 14:38:40 +0000 UTC]
Revan:My minions this is a warning to the peace-loving hippies of the Core Worlds.
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zeengy [2011-12-29 22:04:34 +0000 UTC]
You're right, It should'ev ended this way with insult to injur towards Malak.
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Zerona9 [2011-11-17 16:01:40 +0000 UTC]
You like Juhani don't you, don't worry your not the only one.
And indeed it should have ended that way.
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gua543 [2011-09-22 11:42:57 +0000 UTC]
Approval: Yes, that's what you get when you shoot on my master's ship you jawless meatbag!!!
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FinalSage [2011-05-02 02:48:13 +0000 UTC]
awww man that would have been INTENSE I would go for that, Long Live the EMPIRE!
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XerxesBlack [2011-03-18 21:53:05 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree. i loved this game but the endings were a bit of a let down...
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Menaressoul [2011-03-06 14:18:47 +0000 UTC]
I can only hope she did the same to Bastila.
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RadioactiveSpider [2011-02-02 15:47:40 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, Juhani, at the very least, should have had an option to be converted to the dark side. Her first appearance in the game was as a fallen Jedi, for crying out loud!
Also, faved.
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Dolmheon [2011-01-04 18:35:14 +0000 UTC]
I wish Kotor 1 wasn't that manichean either - the way you drew Revan and Juhani is great!
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TheFusionmix [2011-01-04 00:21:01 +0000 UTC]
Oh man, I had the same thoughts. This is amazing, seriously. -faves-
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DeniseGray [2011-01-03 23:26:53 +0000 UTC]
This is how Kotor 2 should have STARTED. I really loved Revan. Awesome story.
Kotor 2 just felt depressing
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LoneCrusader206 [2011-01-03 23:18:24 +0000 UTC]
Juhani should have been a complete legitimate love interest. I liked her more than Bastila (though I did like Bastila)
anyway favoriting now
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IndigoWolfe In reply to LoneCrusader206 [2011-02-03 21:56:43 +0000 UTC]
*Interests and opinions*, it should have been.
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LoneCrusader206 In reply to IndigoWolfe [2011-02-04 08:11:59 +0000 UTC]
and yet we've gotten into so many debates, too, light and heated. I wonder why that is if we share interests...
anyway, its cool that we share similar interests
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IndigoWolfe In reply to LoneCrusader206 [2011-02-03 21:56:11 +0000 UTC]
It's a little scary how many interests you and I share...
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LittleMissAuthie [2011-01-03 22:48:03 +0000 UTC]
Awesome! Shame we can't do it as a Light Sider. T^T
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Observateur [2011-01-03 18:52:53 +0000 UTC]
lol Yeah, indeed. Cool armor!
I found the Light Side ending a bit strange. All people applauding Revan. A notorious mass murderer...
I never did the Dark Side because i didnΒ΄t want to kill my crew...
Oh.... and i believe dear Malak lost something... (harharhar... tha boss fight was hilarious. After i was killed by Malak in a few seconds the first time i tried for a bit running around the room, "loading force" and flashing him for about half an hour. You know what his dying words were. "You are better than me..." (or something in that direction.) Poor Malak. My Revan was better. But only at running for his dear life.
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poly-m [2011-01-03 18:15:28 +0000 UTC]
I feel the same about Jade Empire...The endings are too radically different.
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Kisam In reply to poly-m [2011-01-04 17:31:43 +0000 UTC]
*SPOILERS*Hey hey hey, but what about Li's ending with great statule of hero? Wasn't that cool? And that evil laugh of this jerk But seriously, who was so bad to can kill Water Dragon and watch evil ending?
ANyway a Light Side ending was to predictable and Dark Side too...well... I was suspecting something more...
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poly-m In reply to Kisam [2011-01-04 17:41:03 +0000 UTC]
I just wished we could have finished the game with Death Hand at your side without, like, torturing all your companions and stuff like that...xD
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Kisam In reply to poly-m [2011-01-04 17:58:59 +0000 UTC]
I Agreed. That was simply disgusting ;/. Dawn Star? I felt sorry for her. Why the 'evil' companions must be idiots or demons? Black Whirlwind was just too stupid to understand that what we're doing is evil. At the whole game i was trying to change Dawn Star into evil but in the end... nooo... At the one moment she has back to the good girl ;( In KOTOR we're have that same problem. Why we have to kill Mission and Zaalbar in the Dark Side ending? It's unfair! Well...Carth/Kaidan is obvious option, but Mission? Why? But that evil Revan's robot was just cool whatever of side where we're.
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