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Autism is not a tragedy. IGNORANCE is the tragedy.Educate yourself...if not for you, then for your children.
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Osakadows In reply to ??? [2013-07-07 17:29:07 +0000 UTC]
How about it being insulting to be so casual and grateful for something others are struggling to overcome.
And others calling it a blessing, or something good.
This coin has 2 sides my friend.
Sure autism has perks, sure it is not the worst thing to have.
But being to happy around it degrades those who are not high functioning and are struggling to even communicate.
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MagicInMyPictures In reply to Osakadows [2013-07-07 18:24:49 +0000 UTC]
how is the joy of others bad? in otherwords you would prefer us all to be miserable??? how is that good in any sense? I have issures and days i dont like aspie but i would never find one of my many apsie friends and say things to them to make them depressed and demand they feel bad too!
I hate having curly hair, it makes my life very difficult but i aint going to go up to people who also have curly hair and say 'your ugly, accept your ugly and realise that you look awful!'
I know aspies and autistics arnt brilliant at social rules but even i know thats unreasonable!
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Osakadows In reply to MagicInMyPictures [2013-07-07 18:41:33 +0000 UTC]
I am afraid you misunderstand what i meant about happiness of others.
Sure as i said before plenty of time including to you.
I am greatly enthralled that you are happy and found a way in life.
My point about being happy as degrading is not about the joy.
But the joyful ways one talks about the condition as if it is a good thing.
Because even if there is a sunny side to this, a lot are not enjoying it even tough they are aware of it simply because of the cost of this sunny side.
Calling it something pleasant is in fact hurtful to them in that way.
Now again do not misunderstand.
I am not against having a upside in autism and enjoying it. Hell even the pride i harp against is not all that bad.
But the shouting it out loud and exclaiming it without thinking of those that do not share your luck is who are on my mind.
I have no need or desire to enforce others to be miserable, you mentioned before insulting is not needed. Now i ask you to do the same.
That or you developed a twisted view of me that i find highly puzzling.
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MagicInMyPictures In reply to Osakadows [2013-07-07 18:59:20 +0000 UTC]
But you must understand that because some people do shout out loud they are happy, others may become happy as they are shown that it isnt an awful thing. such as the paralympions doing well in their sport, they have used wat they do have to achieve great things, most of those athletes would run rings around me even with their disabilities and those people have inspired millions to accept what they have and to use what they have to an advantage. would you tell those atheletes not to compete and show of their pride at what they do simply because others wish to mope and act miserable? being the fact that autistics have a very high suicide rate i think a bit of joy and showing that those with it can be happy is certainly a good thing. being depressed and keeping those who are cheerful quiet certainly cant be a good thing!
there is nothing wrong with saying your happy about something. saying you find some one saying i'm happy about having something insulting puzzles me.
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Osakadows In reply to MagicInMyPictures [2013-07-07 19:15:05 +0000 UTC]
You still misunderstand what i am trying to imply, be this of my fault of explaining or you not understanding.
But it seems everything gets twisted to a point i almost seem like a monster.
So let me attempt to make it less prone to misinterpretation.
Good
-Being happy if you have autism
-Being proud of what little perks autism brings to the table.
-being active and supporting others going through life.
-helping parents by sharing your story and solutions so they might benefit.
-showing you can still go out an achieve something
-showing autism should not be a source of shame
bad
-claiming autism is something good
-claiming autism is something to be proud of
-claiming autism patients are superior
-claiming autism is not a big deal
-spreading lies about autism misinforming parents
-Not taking in account heavier cases of autism, those not high functioning.
I am all for support.
I am jut highly critical of the kind of support.
I have seen plenty of children sold short because the parents simply did not understand how autism works.
Pushing ideas similar to what is found on these motivational posters.
I hope by kicking against them i at least let one of them know that these are not infallible facts but on a per person basis.
I hope to alert a parents or child that they have something to fight against. And something to build on.
I hope they do not undergo the hardship i went through. And saw many close friends go through as well.
I hope they find joy in the improvement of there ability to function an perhaps uphold a valuable job and relationship.
Do not misunderstand me for a troll, or for some monster that wants to fuel misery.
Do not confuse me for some stranger that know nothing of autism.
I want to fuel knowledge and understanding, i want people to understand that autism, as my mother always lovingly said "comes with a manual in a hard to read language".
I hope for a better future, a honest one.
I would be glad if i was more clear on my stance this time.
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Shamusu In reply to ??? [2013-02-27 21:15:05 +0000 UTC]
I wouldn't call it a tragedy, it such a strong word. But it something who rules the life of the one who suffers from it and everyone around him. My youger borther suffers from Asperger's syndrome and his life can't be the same as anyone else. He can't live by himself, my parents have to look after him like he is a child, even if he is 20. It was hard for him to follow school, he can't have "normal" studies, now he is at home and my parents struggle to find a place were he can work. He will probably stay with them until they die, and after with my sister or me. He'll be always dependant.
He suffers from it, Asperger's syndrome makes EVERYTHING difficult for him and us. He's very anxious and needs to be protect. All my parents' life turns around him.
Of course we love him and try our best to make life easier for him, but really I don't undestand why people in dA says autism or Asperger is a gift. It's clearly not.
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Osakadows In reply to Shamusu [2013-07-07 09:11:18 +0000 UTC]
+1 Many forms of autism are getting the blessing in disguise theme.
Because "You can just learn to live with it" and "you will grow out of it".
Sadly this takes away from those that can not adjust that well, or will never grow out of it to a good extent.
We just have to aim to have the best life we can grasp.
Thank you for sharing your story, and bringing the truth in daylight.
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Digi-Angel In reply to Shamusu [2013-06-28 23:12:53 +0000 UTC]
I don't want to be rude or be putting my opinion where it's unwanted but the 'IGNORANCE' can be a tragedy,IF though people ignore the fact that autistic people are people regardless and arent perfect just like any other person.
I hope things get better for your brother though,but no one can be the same as anyone else because we are all different.
Am gonna share with you my story that has yet be finish.
My mother had her first child when she 15 and had me 2 years later,she was worried about how I did'nt cry at loud sounds like a balloon popping in my face and how I kept staring into space. So she went to get it checked and when the Doctors told her that I was autistic and explained what it was and told her if I did not talk when I was 5 I would not be able to talk in my whole she was heartbroken. If that was not bad enough I used to scream and cover my bedroom walls with my own poo,she cried and cried!
But she never treat me any differently then she would with my other 5 siblings (yes she has 6 kids and she a single mother), if I did something silly,like walk like a dog on rainy days and lick the puddles,despite it being apart of my autism, she would tell me off. She did it mostly out of embarrassment but I am really thankful she did that. One random day though.when I was 6-7,I ran up the stairs and screamed 'YOU RUINED MY LIFE' and slammed the door.
My mother was very happy that day! And am living proof that proofed the Doctors wrong about autism!!!
But there is more,when I went into high school the staff put me into the base (A place made just for kids with disabilities) and guess what happened?..............I went backwards, it wasn't until my mother came in to see me and I only noticed her after 20 mins that the school (was made by my mother) got me outta of there,I went into another thing a bit similar and then went into mainstream!
I just finished my exams,am expecting mostly c grades and now I am gonna face collage to get some experience! Am a lot more independent now and if it wasn't for my mother I would have never gotten this far in life. The moral is that just because a person is born with a disability it dose'nt mean you should raise them differently then other kids.
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Osakadows In reply to Digi-Angel [2013-07-07 09:09:07 +0000 UTC]
Nobody would call you out to be rude, tough it seems you forget that autism is not a staple illness with set conditions.
Not every child can function in that environment, it can in fact be quite disruptive or even harmful.
My complements to your mother on assisting you on finding your way and taking the steps she found best suited.
Being treated as a equal or at least somewhat similar to others is a great thing for a child in development.
But in many cases i know these steps would slowly drive the child up a wall and cause enough stress to cause other problems.
This is why some do not accept the claim autism is a gift, or a gift to others.
I can not function in society as a "normal" human being.
And outside of computer and writing on paper i can barely communicate at all.
So others saying it i a blessing and that they are fine only serves as a reminder what i can not do.
So i agree with you in part. But understand there are many different types of autism, and many different levels of it.
A lot have it on a tolerable level where they can adjust and learn to function fairly normally.
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Digi-Angel In reply to Osakadows [2013-07-07 09:26:18 +0000 UTC]
First of all thank you for reminding me that are different forms of autism.
I know some people have a hard time in a class of people who don't have autism or cant even handle it,I remember a boy from high school who screamed a lot and could barely talk,and a girl with simler problems.
I don't think autism is really a gift,it's more like a flaw some people are born with while some people are born with temper problems or blindness.To me at lest,it just a bigger flaw then others and some people have it worse then others.
No matter what though people should at lest respect other people and understand that their different and have different problems.And if they do have something nasty to say about them just for being born with it they should keep it to themselves and bash them for it.
To be honest I think your a better writer then I am and you make great points.
Yeah I understand that some people cant cope in certain situations while other can learn to do it. I just think people should be aware that it's something people are born with and not be judgmental about it.
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Osakadows In reply to Digi-Angel [2013-07-07 10:49:58 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for you understanding and kind words.
I like to remind others then falling for the gift trap there is a large array of problems that comes with autism.
This is often left out in translation, making it seem like those suffering and complaining seem like whiners.
It is a nice breath of fresh air when someone like you comes along with a clear and open mind.
Also thank you for your kind words on my writing once again.
I have not been able to collect a lot of feedback yet.
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Digi-Angel In reply to Osakadows [2013-07-07 11:07:32 +0000 UTC]
You very welcome
True autism is hard to deal with there are times where having it can be a good thing. I remember being stuck in a lift and I was really scared so my nana(grandma) told me to play on my DS and shut my self off for a bit to help me deal with it. (I never been on one since,am really scared of them) But it is hard to deal with,some more then others.
dawwwwwwwwww thanks,I try to treat others like
I would like to be treat myself
Am gonna check out your gallery right now.
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Osakadows In reply to Digi-Angel [2013-07-07 11:10:15 +0000 UTC]
Hope you find it to your liking.
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Pigwasher In reply to Shamusu [2013-03-08 21:01:00 +0000 UTC]
Those people repeat the "autism is a gift" mantra because they have completely lost touch with reality.
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MagicInMyPictures In reply to Pigwasher [2013-05-07 20:37:30 +0000 UTC]
its not a gift, its just who we are. just like being a NT isnt a curse or a gift.
but i dont understand why people put those trying to positive down?
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Osakadows In reply to MagicInMyPictures [2013-07-07 09:18:11 +0000 UTC]
Because we suffer from it, and you are telling that what is causing it is a blessing.
"Be happy you have this life crippling disorder because you are better"
Tell that to the broken hearts, and countless of years spent working on being even remotely functional.
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MagicInMyPictures In reply to Osakadows [2013-07-07 17:14:38 +0000 UTC]
You could say that to those have problem being NT. Its a disability if you choose to see it that way.
There are positives to being AS or autistic, you can be negative and ignore them or accept them and feel positive. perosnally wouldnt want to be NT, cos it gave me my IQ i've sailed through school (the academic side anyway) and college. i could be negative and go 'oooo but i had few friends, went to no parties and spent most of my time alone.' or i could think, 'actually i dont like parties, i hate being crowded so actually woop' lol.
You may believe wat you believe, however wat i dont like is those who critise the views of others. be negative or positive but dont insult which ever choice people make.
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Osakadows In reply to MagicInMyPictures [2013-07-07 17:26:37 +0000 UTC]
It is great that you found balance, and your benefits have helped you so in life.
And i do not doubt you are truthful about how autism has it's blessings.
But for me the blessings are not worth it.
I can't socialize, or handle areas with more then 4 people because i can not filter my inputs.
School is not possible since there is little to no methods that can keep me in a classroom without problems appearing.
I am plagued by my mind because i simply can not control it all the time.
Little chance of ever getting a job, i can't control my workload and overload myself.
I can't live on my own, i need someone to check if i actually take the steps to maintain myself in case i fall into myself and top functioning.
I saw the love of my life, whom i waited for 8 years walk the door. Because i was unable to give her what she deserves.
I am not insulting anyone when i criticize you calling autism a blessing.
I am simply trying to make you understand that plenty have yet to get this blessing that outmatches all those pain and disasters.
Like i said, some still suffer an fight against autism. And have a never ending steep climb to overcome a countless number of problems.
And this leaves little positive things to say about autism.
As being intelligent and creative is a puppy price compared to never functioning independently or communicating normally.
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MagicInMyPictures In reply to Osakadows [2013-07-07 18:28:30 +0000 UTC]
yes aspie and autisim gives us issues, but wat if you were NT? you'd have problems then too. theres no point saying 'i wish i was some one else' because that person would have complaints and issues too.
let those who find happiness have it and deal with it in your own way, but theres no need as i've said before on purpose trying to bring people down. Most people would try and cheer people up, not search for those who they can try to bring crashing down.
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Renee-Niels In reply to Pigwasher [2013-03-17 03:45:58 +0000 UTC]
Well, it may not be a curse to those who are high-functioning, but it's definitely not a blessing! =^=
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Shamusu In reply to Pigwasher [2013-03-09 21:53:15 +0000 UTC]
Maybe they didn't really live with someone who have it and can't understand how much it affects everyday life ^^ My brother is gifted yes, but in the end he suffers much more from autism than he enjoys his gift.
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SwiftWindSpirit In reply to ??? [2013-02-13 04:20:31 +0000 UTC]
Might I add,
Aspurgers is not the tragedy, the people who make it the tragedy ARE the tragedy!
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Osakadows In reply to SwiftWindSpirit [2013-07-07 09:20:27 +0000 UTC]
I suggest finding those who are not high functioning, talk to there parents, and friends and family.
Of the real patients that are suffering just to do something as simple as go outside.
Talk to a few. And tell them they should be proud there son is disabled. and are a "tragedy" for for being happy about it.
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Favninthedirewolf In reply to ??? [2013-01-29 19:48:15 +0000 UTC]
Unless you have outbursts and do weird spazzy things like I do, then itβs not okay. Iβm mildly autistic and Iβm gifted with an IQ of 125.
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FeMailleTurtle In reply to Favninthedirewolf [2013-01-30 03:52:51 +0000 UTC]
My son is not dx'd with any form of autism, but he does have tics and poor social skills, as well as severe ADHD. He is also gifted, with an IQ around the same as yours.
As for me, I'm not sure what I'd have been dx'd with if I were a kid now. I have a whole bunch of alphabet soup going on as I am currently, though.
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Acinomi In reply to ??? [2013-01-15 04:18:18 +0000 UTC]
my brother has a mild Aspergers and he seems normal to any person except the tantrums he gets but really it's just a difference and is not worse than someone with no problems at all. plus he's a wiz at math so i think it helps.
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Osakadows In reply to Acinomi [2013-07-07 09:22:24 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad he has it mildly and takes some benefit out of it. I do not wish this condition on anyone.
Keep in mind the ups do not scale with the downs, so those who are worse of do not get more "blessings".
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Darkwolf289 In reply to ??? [2012-11-27 19:47:00 +0000 UTC]
Thanks very much for this i can honestly agree, im autistic and proud.
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Mrgreen36 In reply to ??? [2012-11-19 17:48:09 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you. It seems that in the media with sites like encyclopedia dramatica and something awful, it seems to be considered funny to mock autism. To put this in perspective, imagine if these websites started mocking gays, blacks or muslims. Everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks. I've noticed in fact that these sites like to think of us as pathetic manchildren who whine about any injustice done to them and use our condition as an excuse for anything. Nothing could be further from the truth. At any rate,, we're less pathetic than those who mock us anonymously from behind a computer screen
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MrDissidiaFan In reply to Mrgreen36 [2013-04-11 00:23:37 +0000 UTC]
Don't know about SomethingAwful, but EncyclopediaDramatica DOES mock gays and blacks.
Not that I approve of it...
(By the way, I'm autistic too)
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Mrgreen36 In reply to MrDissidiaFan [2013-04-11 09:15:36 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, I think that both sites are as bad as one another. What particularly annoys me about SomethingAwful is the way others heap praise on it. In other words people are essentially praising a site that says that "Autism is a goldmine of lols" and "Aspergers is the scourge of the internet"
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jimcool93 In reply to ??? [2012-09-09 01:25:39 +0000 UTC]
I have autism and i get treated like shit by idiots that think im a man child :c
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Nancyxxx In reply to ??? [2012-08-27 18:11:01 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much for making this My 4-year old daughter has autism.
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Osakadows In reply to Nancyxxx [2013-07-07 09:24:56 +0000 UTC]
I suggest taking the time to read some books on it, and not hang around the feel good crowd but taking good care of your little blessing in the best way you can find.
The feel good crowd will have you lie to your child to have it believe there is nothing to fight against because she is blessed.
Best of luck in the future stages of parenthood, and enjoy the ride.
I know my mother did raising me.
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jadenramsey In reply to ??? [2012-08-13 04:05:16 +0000 UTC]
I have autism since i was 3 years old and my own great grandmother thought i was the same as my cousin who has a mind of a 3 year old hell I AM 20 years old and thought i needed help if it wasn't for autism i would not be where i am today! I love my mother she helped me go through with this even my dad helped my mother.
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faves3000 In reply to ??? [2012-08-07 16:55:13 +0000 UTC]
THIS. I'm autistic and semi-proud of it!
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NinjaManiac In reply to ??? [2012-08-03 20:03:22 +0000 UTC]
So true! This girl is Autistic and proud of it!
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Kenna-FireFox In reply to ??? [2012-07-08 22:50:29 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree ^^ and I am autistic
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FeMailleTurtle In reply to Kenna-FireFox [2012-07-09 01:43:06 +0000 UTC]
My older son was recently diagnosed with Aspergers. Getting that diagnosis made me think about this stamp, and I still feel the same way. I'm glad we have a diagnosis and can get on with what we need to do for him. Education is key...for both parent and child.
I'm glad you feel the same.
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Kenna-FireFox In reply to FeMailleTurtle [2012-07-09 14:45:44 +0000 UTC]
^^ I wish good lick to the both of you and sometimes autism can be a gift
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Juror-of-Courage In reply to ??? [2012-04-26 01:29:44 +0000 UTC]
Indeed, I just truely with that people would stop treating like I have cancer once they find out that I have Asperger's syndrome. It's rather embarrassing.
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rogue-freighter In reply to Juror-of-Courage [2013-04-14 01:48:37 +0000 UTC]
Autism is not infectious, nor does it make you die, lol.
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Star-chaser97 In reply to ??? [2012-04-02 20:16:59 +0000 UTC]
So True! My brother has autism. When I tell people that, most think he is dumb and has a low IQ, but that's not true. In fact, he is in 1st grade and can read my mom's adult books.
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FeMailleTurtle In reply to Shane-Bow [2012-02-21 20:31:02 +0000 UTC]
Sure! Thanks for asking.
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