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Published: 2015-05-27 22:02:32 +0000 UTC; Views: 1020; Favourites: 8; Downloads: 1
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Description Part of an art trade with AlienAlfredo . It was a universe swap, where we adapted or included the other's characters into our own universe in some way. I drew Kale's characters En Recner and Kyro Keptum in a back corner of Abime Spire during an attack on the tower, along with some of my characters (Azi and two of the kittens). Kyro is buying some time by clearing a corridor of attackers, while Recner checks over Azi and the kittens jury-rig some extra firepower using the tower's energy relays. ^_^

I took months to finish this, and (likely more annoying) kept making predictions that I'd be able to finish it in ___(time frame)___ that were anything but accurate. Despite that they've been nothing but patient with me, from the unending delays to my need to create a weekly check-in to keep myself on track, so basically: I had a lot of fun with this, and you're awesome and patient and I appreciate it greatly. Thanks for doing the trade, and I hope you like the piece!

Kyro Keptum and En Recner belong to AlienAlfredo .

Azi, Brownie, Anthony and the Abime Spire setting belong to me.

Their half of the art trade can be found here!


Stock textures used:
FREE TEXTURE METAL 1010  from markpietmetal texture 2  from wojtar-stockSeamless metal texture smooth  from hhh316 , and Metal grating texture 2 -tiled  from JayL-stock .
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Comments: 14

RS-Burghardt [2016-07-25 14:55:15 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I haven't taken the time to look at your gallery for a while (Experiment 93 has kept me so busy!), but awesome picture. Full scenes can be really hard to do, and the difficulty shoots up every time you add a character. I love the amount of detail that you put into this

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Grumpy-Old-Snake In reply to RS-Burghardt [2017-01-06 01:14:43 +0000 UTC]

Ooh, jeeze, no need to apologize. I'm far more inactive, myself. Seriously, the balance should be far more in favor of me thanking you for taking the time to go through my gallery! I appreciate all of the comments a lot, thank you. I hope Experiment 93 has been going well!

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Meltorry [2015-10-31 19:04:01 +0000 UTC]

It's very cool!

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Grumpy-Old-Snake In reply to Meltorry [2015-11-05 21:18:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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my-sword-is-bigger [2015-06-10 20:16:25 +0000 UTC]

Wooowwwww man, this is just brilliant! No wonder it took you so long to finish this ~ it's got full textures and colours and shading and everything! I'm really loving the textures most of all, but I can't help but notice it's a full-coloured scene, which is indeed something special.
Because, y'know, you hardly ever do that.

Okay lemme bullet-point this so it's more comprehensible, and hope it doesn't turn into a ramble. (Which it probably will.)



I like:
• The detail! Really loving the fact that you've even drawn the wires underneath the grating.
• Just the grating on the floor in particular. o_o
• The way light reflects off Kyro's suit.
• Perpective
• That thing on Recner's wrist.



Absolute Squee:
• That scrappy metal texture
• The white blood(?) stuff from Azi. It looks very sticky and realistic and not at all pleasant.
• The kitten rigging the wires OH MY GOD IS SHE ADORABLE I'm taking her seriously I swear
• The wall design! I really love it!



Critique / Tips:
• Kyro's electricy things look a bit off. But then, I have no idea how electric bolts would look in a photo, so … They do have awesome light and depth, though.
• Uneven texturing. I notice the wall is really textured, but other parts (such as the floor, and the characters) are not so textured.
• Azi's spikes don't seem to come out of his back very convincingly - I think maybe they're too outlined. Next time you could try fading / rubbing out the outlines.
• Depth. A great way to add depth in a scene is to use a focus-blur. My trick is to duplicate the picture as a layer, enlarge it a tiny bit, and make it semi-transparent. You'll notice a 'clear point' where it's not blurry. You can move the picture around to put the focus on a particular person or place.

~ Okay, and now, end of ramble. xD Honestly, well done! This is so huge and detailed! I'm glad you could finish it

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Grumpy-Old-Snake In reply to my-sword-is-bigger [2015-09-18 17:21:12 +0000 UTC]

Ah gosh, thank you so much! Sorry it's taken me so long to get around to this comment, I seriously really appreciate that you took the time to make it. In part because, yeah. I rarely ever do things like this.

Most of my reply boils down to "eee I'm so glad you liked ___ detail I put a lot of thought/time into it~ ". xD Which is part of why it took me so long to get to this, I knew I probably shouldn't go and gush about every single thing you said, but. Know that I wanted to.

As for specifics, yeah, that's Azi's blood. I'm glad the texture came across! And pfff. xD She can grudgingly acknowledge that the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive; being adorable while rigging high explosives or targeted energy weapons is pretty much the kitten's modus operandi.

In response to your critique:

     • Part of that might be because I tried to do two things at once. It's meant to be something of a force field, but I tried to make it look like electricity at the same time? Either way though, I probably could have benefited from taking a look at at least one photo rather than completely winging it.
     • Ooh, that's a good point. I just used a subtler texture on the floor, but I didn't use any textures on the characters. Kinda makes sense with, like, Kyro's shiny metal armor, but it looks pretty weird with Azi's skin and Recner's supposedly furred tail.
     • YOU'RE TELLING ME. Azi's darned spikes need redesigned, drawing them like this is pretty miserable. They have enough form and weight that they need forshortened individually, and they need to have some sort of impact on his back where they attach, but I haven't figured out how to do either. I might try your idea before doing a complete redesign though, see how it looks. If it doesn't work he's getting plating that narrows into thorns like a rose, or a denser field of spikes like a porcupine or a cactus.
     • Huh, I didn't even think of creating depth beyond just the perspective. Thanks for pointing out the possibility! I'll have to try it some time, and other tricks too. I'm so used to only ever drawing the subject that important aspects of a scene like depth are easy to forget.


Again, though, thank you so much for all the feedback! It was really encouraging to see after pouring so much time into a piece.

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my-sword-is-bigger In reply to Grumpy-Old-Snake [2016-04-08 08:26:54 +0000 UTC]

My pleasure!
And don't worry, I can understand that long comments take long to answer, cos you really have to sit in and have time to consider all the points and stuff. xD

Aww that's actually awesome to know. Thanks for telling me aha!

So the forcefield would have veins of electricity running over it, maybe? I can see what you mean.

Oh, man, individually forshortening those spikes would be a pain the ass I think if you do end up changing it, my vote wouldbe with the rose thorns.

My pleasure and you're very welcome! I was gushing out the excitement too, so it really just came out by itself. I'm glad to hear that it's encouraging Hopefully it'll help you actually finish more stuff xD

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Vo1canic [2015-06-05 13:45:01 +0000 UTC]

I should probably comment on this by now ^^' 
Looks great! I'm in love with the kittens and the shine on Kyro's boots and shading of other parts of his armor. I like how worried Recner looks and the metalic, mechanical details in the bg! I wonder how the two ended up at the spire x)

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Grumpy-Old-Snake In reply to Vo1canic [2015-07-07 21:06:53 +0000 UTC]

Hhh I kind of fell off from dA for a while but. I'm glad you like it! And that's a good question. xD The spire has a way of pulling people in at random, at times. It's possible that one of the spire's residents recruited kidnapped them while out on an errand of their own, too. 

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Vo1canic In reply to Grumpy-Old-Snake [2015-07-15 22:33:33 +0000 UTC]

OOhh sounds ominous. The Spire seems to have a mind of its own?

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Grumpy-Old-Snake In reply to Vo1canic [2015-07-29 16:14:49 +0000 UTC]

It seems to have a life of it's own, certainly--collecting "antibodies", creating beings that can maintain its systems, etc. No one's quite sure yet whether it has a conscious mind of its own or is just self-perpetuating, though...

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Vo1canic In reply to Grumpy-Old-Snake [2015-07-31 02:30:28 +0000 UTC]

WooO sounds very ominous! I wouldnt want to get collected by it x)

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Ace-of-Intuition [2015-05-29 19:52:05 +0000 UTC]

All of this looks excellent! I think both Kyro and Recner look fantastic, especially the metallic shine on Kyro's boots. Azi has a very interesting design also. 

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Grumpy-Old-Snake In reply to Ace-of-Intuition [2015-05-29 21:01:02 +0000 UTC]

Ah, thank you! I'm glad you think they look good.  They were a lot of fun to draw. Putting in the reflected light on all the smooth metal surfaces was a lot of fun, too. As for Azi... I've always kinda liked his appearance but he's probably getting a slight redesign. The spines are a bit of a hassle, particularly when they're supposed to be foreshortened.

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