JoshKanawite In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 02:11:18 +0000 UTC]

There's some parts I can disagree with on the Committed Canvas intro, in purple. Most people do get tattoos for the hell of it and they usually don't think it out at all. Just because it looks cool, they get it. Secondly does anyone know why they get a obviouse tattoo, and it's meaning? Example: coi fish.

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BullSnookPhotography In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 02:08:23 +0000 UTC]

1. the tattoo artist and the living canvas, both play an equal part in the art. other wise you just have plane old skin and art on walls.
2. "Interactive art"... hmmm sounds like a fair definition.
3. the images in ink, that the artist puts in my skin, is an expression of me, who I am and what I love in life, it has very special meaning to me> I need to know I can trust my tattoo artist to convey that in such a way that people will look at my skin, carrying this living art, and see that its not just a picture, I need that artist to show people who I am through a walking decorated book cover. see the story of me by reading my skin. so I guess you could say, the relationship is very personal.

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VashTomasso In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 02:07:52 +0000 UTC]

This is such a interesting topic because as an artist and someone who has tattoos, it is an experience. Becoming a living piece of art is exciting. I admit that it hurt but it was well worth it. Although my tattoos are originally drawn by me and look nearly exactly the same, they aren't quite mine anymore. Once the tattoo artist takes the drawing and puts it onto your body it becomes theirs as well. Taking my drawings and turning them into pictures on flesh with colors that burst and detail that is hard enough to do in other medias. It's a skill I don't believe I could posses.
I think the importance of the initial tattooing is how the creation turns out in the end. It is a collaboration between the tattoo artist and the tattooed. I look back to my last tattoo and as much as it hurt the entire I was laughing. I enjoyed myself because I had my best friend and my older brother there. We all,including the tattoo artist, read Chuck Norris Jokes and had a pizza break. At the end of the five hours I had this piece of artwork that I had originally created turned into something that was still mine but not just mine.
I believe that when you get tattoos it is not just for yourself because once you get a tattoo, you become a living canvas. A walking breathing piece of art.

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flame-stalker In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 02:05:10 +0000 UTC]

i think that the person getting tattooed is more important, mainly because when you get a tattoo it usually has a higher meaning to it, it's not just random. don't get me wrong, the tattoo artist is important as well, mainly because he/she's the one who makes the story behind the tattoo come to life.

i do think tattooing is an "interactive" form of art, mainly because most of them have a story to tell, and they tell you something about a persons history, or their personality.

there are many different ways to describe the relationship between the artist and the 'canvas'. First of all, there may be a very strong bond, most of us never forget the person who gave us our first tattoo, and i assume that we have an impact on them, mainly because they hear a bit about our lives, weather it's the good, the bad or the ugly.

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Infernalbird In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:54:49 +0000 UTC]

Maybe a little birdie...but nothing noticeable :I

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101fatsos In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:46:03 +0000 UTC]

have you ever met someone that regrets getting tatto that should be question

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Fang-fey In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:42:19 +0000 UTC]

I believe that the author is the person getting the tattoo, by shouting out a personal statement for everyone to see (but it would help to get skilled hands to do the job). Second, i believe tattooing is an interactive art, but not the first one. The first one i believe is during the Anglo-Saxon days, when druids would sing and act out tales of heros and myths. And third, i believe the relationship between a tattoo artist and the tattooee (just made that up) is very unique and unmatched, especially when the tattooee asks for a custom job. As the tattoo artist, it is your job to help the customer express themselves visually not through their voice, but through their skin.

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ScottMan2th In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:41:00 +0000 UTC]

First question: Yes, the commitment of altering your own flesh to bear defined patterns of pigment is a deeply personal and at times spiritual one. Both the artist who puts ink to flesh and the one who bears the result are forever linked in a unique way and this bonding may continue over many years or decades as both mature, and so does the progression of ink and flesh narrative...unique to the collaboration of chosen artists and to the one who becomes part of their work, the soul within the soul.

Second question:

first interactive art form? Probably... although in all likelihood this would have been done more for religious reasons than ornamental... this is one of the things that tends to annoy me about the seeing results of meaningless or poorly thought out choices when getting their ink...if you designed the art or commissioned something from your ideas that’s fine...that means something...but getting a logo or current phrase that will make absolutely no sense in the future or worse whose meaning could change radically to one that you would prefer not to be associated with...that’s the price of not thinking ahead far enough. There’s always the belt sander if you need it and you don’t mind the scar.

third question: think i answered this one along with question one but here’s a recap. The choice of artist will make the tattoo and the chosen art a positive or negative experience. In all likelihood anyl further art done will be done by the same artist unless the person moves out of the area.

On a personal note:

Do i have tattoos? No. Would i get one? Depends; but for the moment it would seem unlikely (not my personality to be honest, have great friends with tattoos and dated a girl with a hand made tattoo of a cat on her leg (rather liked that) to be honest) in my distant past. so i'm not averse
to anyone with tattoos for personal reasons.


If i were to get one for whatever reason, the placement, and design of such a mark would be my own business.

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Leaxys In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:26:02 +0000 UTC]

I think the first and third are simply "both, and equal"

I like to think tattoos as interactive moreso however because of my own reactions my tattoo. I need to care for it differently than a cavas, I need to daily apply sunscreen or cover, lotion it up sometimes. It doesn't hang on my wall, with a dust every once in a while. I see it in the mirror, and I check the skin is healthy (cause I'm paranoid) and I interact with it. (I even color match my clothes.)

However I don't think its' the first form of interactive art, I think music and theatre are also interactive arts, I think entertaining a dinner party and being an exeptional host is an art and it's certainly interactive. I think anything can be interactive art If you look at it the right way.

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hippieinblack In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:21:50 +0000 UTC]

i got my first tattoo about 4 months ago, and i think both people are really important because the tattoo-ee is trusting the tattoo-er is going to do a good job on something that is going to be on their skin forever. and it is definitely the first interactive form of art, they've even found tattoos on the iceman.

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missnene7086 In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:17:50 +0000 UTC]

OMG someone will kill me!!!!!!

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Saiyuki-chan In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 01:08:28 +0000 UTC]

I have three tattoos as it is, and I plan on getting more. But with the prospect of going into the military none of them can show while in uniform. Yet it does not mean that I will stop getting them.

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aichan25 In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:52:43 +0000 UTC]

i have been thinking about tattoo's for a long time, i'm actually hoping to find a design i can work with when i go home to okinawa this october.
i have had this idea in my head for a long long time. i feel , in my own opinion and as a preference, that a tat should be very personal- mean something significant.
i have been wanting such a tat for a while, of a Shisa, the okinawan equivalent to chinese foo dogs, guardians. okinawa is surrounded by shisa, they are everywhere! also my design would incorperate okinawa Bingata. i'll most likely get one first then the mate.

i've even asked my tattooist friend to have the honor of doing mine. i'd get mine IN okinawa but i'm afraid of something happening and not being able to enjoy my long awaited vacation!

i love how tattoo's can express so much about a person.

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XBluexSnowX In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:50:00 +0000 UTC]

i think the artist plays the most important role. Its their duty to create the perfect art peace in the eyes of its canvas. If they fail the whole reason for the tattoo is ruined.
I honestly don't know if its the first interactive art. I might be...i have noo idea. :/
The relationship between the artist and the canvas these days is probably more buisness like. But i feel it sould be somewhat special, considering its thanks to the artist the tattoo came out so well. Yet the artist should be honored that others find their art beautiful enough to wear for life.

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driller88 In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:49:56 +0000 UTC]

hey tattoo art...deff one of the best, you canot get any bigger or in depth than a human as your canvas

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misskla In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:28:26 +0000 UTC]

art , tattooing , i think both the artist and the person been tattooed are both on same page , takes a wonderful artistic mind to come up with a wicked beautification of a tat , and for the artist well to be able to see what the person wants and to make it real ... its amazing ,, i will admit that over the years tattooing has been taken out and thrown around a bit .. every last person has some form of art work on them ..
years ago people were more serious about what they put on to their bodies , i think alot of young people these days do it either for the fun or they think it will make them cool .. WRONG!!!
when you choose to put art work on your body it should mean something , should make you proud even define who you are ! i cannot speak as a young woman i had been offered some free tattoo work and neither the artist or myself cared to much about what was been done , now i am to regret what i have on my body .. and i am a lover of all forms of art ,, music ,, poetry ,, writing ,, drawing and the meny more forms their are ..
body artwork can be a powerful beauty-full thing , and both the artist and one being tattooed should have a good understanding , which should make a bond before been done..

sorry if didn't answer question just an added opinion on the subject

misskla x

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tattookollin In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:20:16 +0000 UTC]

this will be a huge hot topic. You need to understand this is a very under ground subject i don't mind answering question if it will help give uninformed people knowledge but to understand tattooing as an art form is very hard to make clear unless you have the insanity in your blood. Real tattooers are few and far between. You'll get a lot of people saying they do tattoos but they're more harmful than anything and will never put in a real day of work in there life. It's not just drawing on folks, it's keeping them free of infection, it's keeping the tattoo from clashing with the body part. It more technical than any other subject I've tackled and the hardest thing I've done with the last 11 years of my life. Sorry for the rant

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minokyoko In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:11:43 +0000 UTC]

tattoos are awesome.

i'm a canvas for my drawings (and other peoples)

i know both tattooee and tattooer are both important, theres a fair amount of trust between the two before/during the inking.

going back to tribal art in african tribes, then yes it has to be one, if not, the first interactive art.

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HowlingHunter In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:07:32 +0000 UTC]

the author is more important, and I think the acting or imitation is older than the tattoo, that is an art that is commonly used to burlasce people and is done instinctively.
and I really think I speak for many when I say that the relationship between the author and the tattoo is a bit narrow, because the tattoo is the canvas (and the relationship astist-canvas is something deep)

sorry for my bad english

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Minxzie In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:05:57 +0000 UTC]

I think its a shared amount of importance. Without the tatoo artist who would do the tatoo? And without the canvas where would it go?
I think all art forms can be interactive.
Its a very lasting impression. As someone who has been tatooed I can say that at least while its happening its a special bond. And everytime you think of your tatoo you remember it.

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mnementh2000 In reply to ??? [2011-08-05 00:05:13 +0000 UTC]

I admit that tattooing has become almost as mainstream as not tattooing, for many reasons. Myself, I would never get one, however, I have been commissioned several times to design them for people. Now, tattoo designing is not my preferred form of art, but it gets attention for my work, so... eh. I do have respect for those that do the designing of the tattoos, as well as those that actually do the tattooing- oftentimes the same person, but not always, as in my case. I have seen many great pieces. I also respect the people who willingly become human canvases.
However, and this is my personal peeve, I believe that there is a such thing as too much of a thing. This applies to whether the person has too many (or too large) tattoos, or the number of people who get them is too large. I find it hard to look at a picture of a model or celebrity or anyone else without being distracted by the tattoos that they are displaying. As beautiful as the person or the work may be, I do not feel that the two go together. This is just personal opinion, mind you. And the problem goes beyond just my dislike of the appearance. My job has strict rules about the displaying of tattoos, namely that they should not be seen, which has led to a very strict (and HOT) dress code of long sleeves for everyone on the job, and they must be fully rolled down.

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knot8head In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 23:38:47 +0000 UTC]

1. Both the tattoo artist and the living canvas are important. Without the artist, there is no art or culture, and without the canvas, the artist would not be able to express themselves.
2. Yes, tattooing is one of the first interactive forms of art, as it dates back to ancient times.
3. The relationship between the artist and the human canvas is brief at times, but it still depends on the size and shape of the tattoo, as well as the colors used. It also depends on any previous relationships between the two.

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DrAgOnOfFoReSt In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 23:16:12 +0000 UTC]

First, I think that tattoos are awesome. They reflect the tattooed gusto for the art, and the specific passion he or she has to show up into his/her body; i.e., I feel passion for DRAGONS, the FINAL tattoo I will have will be a dragon.
On second thought, I will answer those good questions...

1. I think BOTH are important, since the author must be kind and decided with the design and the "living canvas" must focused into what he/she desires to see tattooed into his/her skin.
2. Yes I DO consider it the first INTERACTIVE artform. I guess that society developed by this way of art as well as many other development ways.
3. I can't tell, since I haven't any tattoo into my body... yet. However, I will do my best to describe it.
That relationship IS unique, since the tattoo artist is not perfect, he/she practices the definitely tattoo into a surface (paper or something else) first, then he draws it and colors it into the tattooed person. The costumer becomes the definitive canvas for the tattoo artist. Therefore, a relationship of trust shows up between the two...

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JokerAngewomon In reply to DrAgOnOfFoReSt [2011-08-05 00:49:04 +0000 UTC]

la verdad te doy la razon

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DrAgOnOfFoReSt In reply to JokerAngewomon [2011-08-05 10:06:45 +0000 UTC]

Bueno, gracias!
Es muy amable de tu parte...

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AndresPerezdelgado In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 23:10:00 +0000 UTC]

1.Diablo
2.si
3.La persona que se tatua debe hacerlo siendo consciente de que el tatuaje es algo personal para si misma, digamos que es como una actualizacion de tu sistema windows. El tatuador debe de saber realizar el trabajo, de escribir el codigo bien ya que si lo escribe mal el programa pueda no funcionar correctamenrte y por ambas partes se trata de algo mistico , la del enfermo y su guru

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AndresPerezdelgado In reply to AndresPerezdelgado [2011-08-05 00:01:13 +0000 UTC]

He confundido la primera pregunta , pense que quien era el tatuador mas importante...jejejjeeje, bueno creo que son importantes ambas partes

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Earlymorningdarkness In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 23:06:04 +0000 UTC]

This is a great discussion!! Finally a discussion about Tattoo's and art in the same sentence!! I have been a lover of the art of tattooing since I was 13 years old, long before tattoo's became fashionable. I grew up in a crowd of bikers back when tattoo's were taboo, so I am somewhat protective of this art form and in my opinion it is one of the closest bonds that can occur between an artist and the artist lover/wearer. To be a great tattoo artist you have to really know how to draw free hand and be able to tap into the mind of the customer and create a picture from mere words and the odd scribbles on a piece of paper or picture (if you are lucky to have a picture upon which to work from) into an original piece of art that will be with your client for life. Being a Tattoo artist is, in my opinion, one of the hardest artistic jobs to have because of the huge responsibility that goes with it and because it puts your artistic abilities out there for all to see...you have to be good in order to make it in the tattoo world. To answer the above questions, I think that the tattoo artist is absolutely the most important author because of the very reasons that I have described above. I certainly believe that Tattooing, in all of its forms, was the first interactive artform. I think that anytime an artist is asked to create a piece of art for someone else, whether it is on your body or not, there is a bond that forms between between the two people that can have a lifelong affect. Art is a very personal, emotional and therapeutic form of expression and it is extremely important to those of us who have dedicated our lives to it. From personal experience...art has literally saved my life on more than one occasion.

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greentomatoes In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 22:54:57 +0000 UTC]

1. I would say both are equally important, the tattooist had to have the skill and patience to create the art and the 'lignin canvas' has to carry the art on their skin for the rest of their lives. I would say though that whoever created the design is probably the most important, as it effects both the tattooist and the canvas.
2. Yes I would.
3. I cant really say as I have yet to get a tattoo but i would guess it would have to be one of incredible trust, if the tattooist gets it wrong the canvas has to live with the evidence.

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ProudMommyToElijah In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 22:42:12 +0000 UTC]

Tattoos can be wonderful, not all art would be something I personally like but I can appreciate other ideas and styles. I iknow they are not for everyone and I have lost dates with guys because they do not like ink but hey I do, and they arent worth my time if they cant appreciate the things I like whether they like or agree with them or not. I am running a contest to help me develop a piece of art I want inked as a half sleeve. And I have lots of ideas to get more over the years

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KristieCalifornia In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 22:25:26 +0000 UTC]

Tattooing is one of the most intricate art forms there is,
I'm glad someone's noticing it

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prashantwosti In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 22:23:22 +0000 UTC]

This is great.

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Marie1987 In reply to ??? [2011-08-04 22:05:46 +0000 UTC]

Tattoo is considered art.

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