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i dont support it because i almost tried it! i had inspiration for this stamp from this news article here news.deviantart.com/article/57...read it! it's very powerful, and very moving! it had me in tears by the time i had finished commenting on it! and the comment you can find right here and all the replies to it. comments.deviantart.com/2/5787...
let me know if you use it! so i can see it in action!!
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Oh my god. you people realize that the artist doesn't get to choose what get's a DD. i still have no clue what so ever of why this was chosen as a DD so stop discussing it here. if you dont like it. tell the proper people you can find it here FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature?
and as for "lumping cutting and suicide together", what can i say... i'm sorry. i'm not going to change it now, and at the time it was what was going through my mind.
for the people who are saying stuff about how cutting can be good. well. i wont lie, my best friend used to cut. she did it to relieve stress. but from my personal standpoint, i know it isn't healthy, and it is something i am very glad i never did.
and if i was refering to assisted suicide i would have put that so please stop using that as an argument as well. i was talking about self suicide. like slitting your wrists or hanging yourself and so on.
any other haters out there... well i'm sorry you feel that way i am not here to change your feelings however.
******UPDATE******
I just uploaded an apology deviation. I feel it's necessary
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Cuz of the message, I believe.
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Are you serious? No shit itβs cuz of the message, what I mean is... anyone could spend 30 minutes and make a stamp with any controversial message, like I donβt believe in suicide, abortion, racism or whatever. But DD come on.......... it could have been done better then a crappy stamp. Itβs not DD worthy.
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-insert long, drawn-out, arguement-ensuing comment here-
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yeah... it's amazing how long some of the comments are here.
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[self-righteous psych-major mode]
Who does support it? Suicidal depression is an illness just like any other illness. I have hypothyroidism; can I just wake up and decide that my thyroid will function normally? Nope. Depression is caused by chemical imbalances in the brain; it's no different than any other chemical imbalance.
As for self-injury, for a lot of people, it prevents suicide. It causes a flood of endorphins, which have a calming effect on the brain. For some, it quells overwhelming emotion; for some, it allows any emotion at all. The two are a lot of the time, polar opposites.
Telling someone not to think about such things might even make things worse. They can't stop without help any more than I can control my thyroid hormone levels without medication.
[/self-righteous psych-major mode]
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*sigh*...
well, i agree who does support it...hence the stamp! but i dont know about suicidal depression being an illness... depression yes... suicidal depressing is questionable to me.
but there are so many other ways to get those endorphins then cutting or 'self injury'. and i dont think it would prevent suicide... but just be the start of it.
i dont think i could have stopped myself from being suicidal without help.
oh, and it's a stamp.... that's all it is... i can't figure out why people are reading so deeply into this.
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I can guarantee that it is, or at least an illness compounded by a lack of adequate coping skills. "Don't even think about it" isn't a coping skill. If it were, the entire industries of psychology and psychiatry would be out of business.
Yes, but perhaps they find that the most convenient or quickest way to relieve their emotions. I've heard from many first-person sources that it's exactly the opposite. I'm not generalizing so much as to say that it's like that for everyone, but I've heard more than not say it.
Exactly. Could you have done it without help, if someone just told you to not think about it? Perhaps you'd have received more positive reactions if you had said to get help at the end instead.
As for why, it's a very sensitive topic. Some might be triggered about their own experiences, some might be defending a loved one in effigy, some might morally object... and some might be loquacious psych-majors who just want to put their two cents in.
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maybe one compounded by what you said. lol.
and i have had a long talk with my friend who used to cut. and she swears that it helped her with stress and anger relief. but i dont want to get to deep into that.
probably... but i made it when i was feeling very emotional... so that thought wasn't passing through my mind
ok... i can agree with that too.
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Ah, crap, that came out horribly wrong. I meant that it's completely the opposite of suicide.
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ok then... :/
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I'm so incredably pleased you commented!
Thank you.
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You're welcome. ^_^;
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I agree with this.
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Thanks! ^_^; Aww, you're icon's cute.
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You my friend, are the most poetic psych-major, I have ever read.
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Yay! xD Thank you. For once, someone appreciates my pontification. Take that, people who used to cut off my answers in class.
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Maybe it's because you used long words.
Most people have a sort of difficulty with that sort of thing, these days.
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Thank you. ^_^; Yes, that, and grammar... and spelling... and punctuation... *rocks back and forth in a corner, hugging a dictionary*
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I'm not even down with correct grammar. I think it takes something out of expressive writing.
Put spelling, yes.
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Ah, I quite agree. English teachers would cry at the sentence fragments I use in my roleplays. xD I meant in knowledge itself and when it's required for jobs or school.
...You mean but spelling? xD Kidding, kidding, I'd be a hypocrite if that were a real correction. Dylexia. Meh. -_-;
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lol, a bit, I suppose.
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First off, I support assisted suicide fully. Dying with dignity should be a right.
I also sympathize with people who have a lot of REAL pain and suffering who choose to take the route of self-mutilation or suicide (which are NOT the same thing!) And that is their own personal choice, and though not in my opinion perhaps the wisest choice, in certain circumstances it may seem like their only way out. That is up to them and is their human right.
But when little whiny teenage kids living in perfectly fine families who love them, with normal lives, start thinking that their lives are awful because not everything is handed to them on a silver platter like they want it to be start cutting just to get attention and "help," I get really irritated. It is an extreme version of, say, a little girl crying in the aisle of a store to get the candy she wants. These kids think that cutting makes them edgy or special or something, and expect all eyes to be on them. I know this because I have known a few of these people. Ungrateful people like that sicken me.
As far as little whiny kids who resort to killing themselves, that is just a tragedy, a stunt for attention gone too far, and it is nothing but a selfish act that breaks a whole family apart because of their little whines and moans for attention and everything they wanted. :/
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I totally agree with you. I've met someone belonging to the third bandwagon, and I asked this person "Do you have REAL problems that are excuse for your self cutting and suicide attempts? I thank God that I don't live in a miserable African country, I don't have AIDS and I have a family, live under a roof and eat everyday. You are just like me, even better because you live in a wealthy country with almost zero problems", and she said "I don't think about it, everyone is born the way they are and they have to live their lives, and not worry about everyone else".
About the first kind of people, I can't stop myself thinking about harakiri and seppuku ^^U But martyrs, they become heros.
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Glad to hear that there are more people grateful to have all that they have in life. There is so much out there and so many opportunities to grasp, especially for Americans (or anyone in a wealthy developed nation, but as an American I am going to use it as an example). Even lower-class Americans have an incredible amount of opportunities out there for them and instead they dwell on what I would call insignificant problems.
Though I have to add that everyone has the right to think and feel what they want to, and has the right to commit suicide. I just happen to find it to be selfish and tragic when it is done for no noble cause or (in my opinion) legitimate reason.
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it's funny... i wasn't going to reply to this... because i agree with just about everything you said.
the only thing that you weren't clear on is assisted suicide. are you talking about the cancer patient who was given only months to live or the person who hates their life and have the money to hire a doctor to give him the ability to kill themselves with ease?
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I am referring to the cancer patient. I believe someone who is truly under a lot of physical (and as a result, emotional) suffering has the right to die with dignity.
I suppose the person who hates their life has the right to kill themselves (as everyone does) but it seems wrong to me for them to use those servies when their intent is to help people who truly need it.
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ok then. yeah i agree with that too... because the person already knows that they are going to die in x amount of months. why not let them choose the exact day to do it on
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Suffering, like all things, is relative.
Monotony of existence probably allows them time to realize how pathetic they are....
Also, if your parents give you everything you want to replace real affection, that must be pretty sad.
I almost sympathize with the little emo guys...
Almost.
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Not necessarily giving THINGS that is important in my mind, maybe to the little emo guys, but giving attention and love, sometimes in the form of material things like birthday presents and such, but yeah, material things don't replace love.
Suffering is relative but it angers me how ungrateful some people are for what they have. The opportunities available to them in this life are incredible, and they spend their time feeling miserable when they have the ability to take any direction in life they see fit! It makes me feel more grateful for everything in my life, maybe that is the silver lining to the emo kids making me angry
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Can one truly know the heart?
situational ethics?
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I suppose not. I guess in some circumstances it seems that people are just craving attention and will do anything to get it. That's just how I see it I guess.
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wait... what?
do you support the stamp or the things said in the stamp?
ugh...i'm so confused
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It was suppose to be a joke that I support it suicide and stuff, lol. I don't though, I really hate when people do it, especially for stupid reasons.
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Oh... ok! not something good to joke on though. not this subject i mean.
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I fail to see why this is brilliant
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pants.... you are not the only one. i am still trying to figure out why it got a DD... and i'm the one who made it.
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lol... I've always been rather skeptical about some of those DD's....
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i dont usually look at them unless one really catches my eye
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yeah thats the same with cept yours was flashing and had the words suicide in it... so natraully my eye was drawn
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well... at least my "boring" animation caught somebodys eyes
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eh I suppose you can look at and say it has an important message
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lol. thanks!
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your welcome I try not to be completely negative to complete strangers
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good! i do my best to be positive to everyone... but sometimes it's hard.
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I didn't say I was being positive.. I just wasn't being negative
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so your being neutral?
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neutral... yes that is what I shall be
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ok... then here is the perfect stamp for you [link]
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