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Ok so I had no clue what was going on a couple of days ago but I believe I've caught up enough to understand what's going on.
And I think that people who say they're fans of the yogscast, and then turn around and start blocking Sjin, Lewis and Turps from anything they do to do with the yogscast is in my opinion pretty stupid. (I'm not trying to call anyone stupid or anything. I just think the whole motion in general.)
You're listening to the word of a girl or something along those lines, when something like this happens all the time to popular youtubers. I'm not saying it didn't happen I'm just saying other girls have had 'proof' of this sort of thing towards Markiplier, yamimash, etc. Sometimes it is true. Like in the whole Alex day debocal. But all I'm saying is that it took a while for everyone to understand that the girls were lyig about those people doing it. And their families were lying as well, which is something that's very hard to find out and figure out which side is lying.
I'm not fully taking Sjin's side on this because I don't have all the facts. None of us really do. And in my view Lewis and Turps telling those people to shut up or fck off or whatever they said, is because they're trying to protect their friends. Thy might not know the whole story either.
As for the whole Minty found out and that's why Sjin and her aren't together anymore, that was a year or even longer ago, why would the girls wait until now to say anything to anyone if Sjin had been asking for naked pictures back then.
In my opinion when it's blown out of proportion and starts to effect the entire fanbase of the yogscast or the youtubers involved then most of the time it was probably (not saying for definite) a few petty people who don't like the yogscast who have gotten people around them to lie for them, just like with Mark and Yami, and others, so that there's this whole negative vibe around the yogscast and Sjin.
Because now Turps and Lewis have also been dragged into the argument, along with Minty and Hannah right?
That's just my opinion, obviously I understand that the all this could be true, in which case yes Lewis and Turps did handle the situation badly. But think about it if your friend was in that situation, what would you do? Defend them (though maybe not thinking before saying what they said to defend him) or comply to the girls or boys or whoever made the accusations?

I understand that other people will have very different opinions to me, as far as I can see a lot of the fanbase has come to the conclusion that Sjin is a pedophile or something along those lines. If that's the case there's still a couple of questions I've got concerning this... But I understand why those questions shouldn't always be applied to delicate situations like this.
In my opinion, innocent until proven guilty. That's not because I'm a fan, I've put that to one side and looked this over. I like to see the good in people and I don't believe Sjin would do such a thing. Maybe he did, I don't know. That's just my opinion.
I'd like to believe someone I look up to didn't and wouldn't so something like that, and that these girls are more of these petty people trying to bring youtubers down over things they havnt done. But none of us know.
So instead of giving everyone a hard time for what's been said, or what's been done, wait until there's an actual answer. Whether Sjin is innocent or not. Just wait until that happens instead of turning against the other yogs. While they did say things they might not have, and if the allegations are true that Lewis and Turps told Sjin to keep quiet then I understand the anger towards them, there's no official word from a court or anything along those lines. We just have two sides of the argument. If it's not true then you have to thing about the livelihoods of these people, Lewis and Turps - while dragged into the situation - may have said something's, the point still remains that if more and more people stop watching them due to trying to defend their friend, who must be going through hell at the moment, then they're gonna be getting less money to keep Yogtowers up and running, less money for everything else etc.
I'm not defending their words, I don't agree with the idea of them telling Sjin to keep quiet about it, IF they did actually say that. But I think none of us have the solid facts. None of us are allowed to judge people of being guilty until they are.

I'm not on either side with this, I've thought about both possibilities and while it would destroy me to learn one of my favourite youtubers has done something like that, I just don't see it being something he would do. And if he did, (I understand I'll probably get some hate for asking this, I'm not blaming the girls, I'm not saying it's their fault if Sjin did ask for anything, I just think that as someone whos been asked for pictures before, sometimes people don't know the whole background of the person they're asking) did he realise the age of the girls? We're they lying to him? We're they manipulating him? Was Sjin drunk or completely sober at the time?
I know alcohol is no excuse for something like this, but being drunk ruined your judgement. I'm not defending it. Because that's a really disgusting excuse when men or woman say 'I was drunk' when they've sexually assaulted someone. Or tried to.
I just think that there shouldn't be any judgement until this has all either washed over or been proven.
I understand the anger towards the other yogs and if you don't want to watch them anymore then that's your decision.
For me it's a case of nothing has been proven. So I'm going to continue writing about all of the yogs how I usually would. And I'm going to continue watching the series I was watching before. If he is proven guilty then... I retract what I've said. But I believe everyone deserves a second chance... I'm sorry if that offends anyone but I try and see the best in people. Rather than their mistakes...
If he isn't proven guilty then everything will go on as it was before. There may be some negative stigma around the yogscast for a while after that, and probably more accusations, but... For now we don't know anything.

Those fans of the yogscast all you need to try and think about is tht this stuff has happened to multiple other youtubers. Multiple.
Sometimes it is true. But if it isn't, which I believe it probably (not saying definitely) won't be, then what did we spend weeks or months doing? Sending bad stigma to the yogscast, which is what them girls would want. Again this is purely IF Sjin is innocent.

Either way I'm sorry for the rambling, and I know I might loose a few foxlings or maybe even my friends on here through this post, I just think it's important to have an actual verdict before we go judging people...

That's just my opinion...

Sorry if you have bad opinions of me now. I just want to see the best in people...

-exza~ x

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Ok so I had no clue what was going on a couple of days ago but I believe I've caught up enough to understand what's going on.
And I think that people who say they're fans of the yogscast, and then turn around and start blocking Sjin, Lewis and Turps from anything they do to do with the yogscast is in my opinion pretty stupid. (I'm not trying to call anyone stupid or anything. I just think the whole motion in general.)
You're listening to the word of a girl or something along those lines, when something like this happens all the time to popular youtubers. I'm not saying it didn't happen I'm just saying other girls have had 'proof' of this sort of thing towards Markiplier, yamimash, etc. Sometimes it is true. Like in the whole Alex day debocal. But all I'm saying is that it took a while for everyone to understand that the girls were lyig about those people doing it. And their families were lying as well, which is something that's very hard to find out and figure out which side is lying.
I'm not fully taking Sjin's side on this because I don't have all the facts. None of us really do. And in my view Lewis and Turps telling those people to shut up or fck off or whatever they said, is because they're trying to protect their friends. Thy might not know the whole story either.
As for the whole Minty found out and that's why Sjin and her aren't together anymore, that was a year or even longer ago, why would the girls wait until now to say anything to anyone if Sjin had been asking for naked pictures back then.
In my opinion when it's blown out of proportion and starts to effect the entire fanbase of the yogscast or the youtubers involved then most of the time it was probably (not saying for definite) a few petty people who don't like the yogscast who have gotten people around them to lie for them, just like with Mark and Yami, and others, so that there's this whole negative vibe around the yogscast and Sjin.
Because now Turps and Lewis have also been dragged into the argument, along with Minty and Hannah right?
That's just my opinion, obviously I understand that the all this could be true, in which case yes Lewis and Turps did handle the situation badly. But think about it if your friend was in that situation, what would you do? Defend them (though maybe not thinking before saying what they said to defend him) or comply to the girls or boys or whoever made the accusations?

I understand that other people will have very different opinions to me, as far as I can see a lot of the fanbase has come to the conclusion that Sjin is a pedophile or something along those lines. If that's the case there's still a couple of questions I've got concerning this... But I understand why those questions shouldn't always be applied to delicate situations like this.
In my opinion, innocent until proven guilty. That's not because I'm a fan, I've put that to one side and looked this over. I like to see the good in people and I don't believe Sjin would do such a thing. Maybe he did, I don't know. That's just my opinion.
I'd like to believe someone I look up to didn't and wouldn't so something like that, and that these girls are more of these petty people trying to bring youtubers down over things they havnt done. But none of us know.
So instead of giving everyone a hard time for what's been said, or what's been done, wait until there's an actual answer. Whether Sjin is innocent or not. Just wait until that happens instead of turning against the other yogs. While they did say things they might not have, and if the allegations are true that Lewis and Turps told Sjin to keep quiet then I understand the anger towards them, there's no official word from a court or anything along those lines. We just have two sides of the argument. If it's not true then you have to thing about the livelihoods of these people, Lewis and Turps - while dragged into the situation - may have said something's, the point still remains that if more and more people stop watching them due to trying to defend their friend, who must be going through hell at the moment, then they're gonna be getting less money to keep Yogtowers up and running, less money for everything else etc.
I'm not defending their words, I don't agree with the idea of them telling Sjin to keep quiet about it, IF they did actually say that. But I think none of us have the solid facts. None of us are allowed to judge people of being guilty until they are.

I'm not on either side with this, I've thought about both possibilities and while it would destroy me to learn one of my favourite youtubers has done something like that, I just don't see it being something he would do. And if he did, (I understand I'll probably get some hate for asking this, I'm not blaming the girls, I'm not saying it's their fault if Sjin did ask for anything, I just think that as someone whos been asked for pictures before, sometimes people don't know the whole background of the person they're asking) did he realise the age of the girls? We're they lying to him? We're they manipulating him? Was Sjin drunk or completely sober at the time?
I know alcohol is no excuse for something like this, but being drunk ruined your judgement. I'm not defending it. Because that's a really disgusting excuse when men or woman say 'I was drunk' when they've sexually assaulted someone. Or tried to.
I just think that there shouldn't be any judgement until this has all either washed over or been proven.
I understand the anger towards the other yogs and if you don't want to watch them anymore then that's your decision.
For me it's a case of nothing has been proven. So I'm going to continue writing about all of the yogs how I usually would. And I'm going to continue watching the series I was watching before. If he is proven guilty then... I retract what I've said. But I believe everyone deserves a second chance... I'm sorry if that offends anyone but I try and see the best in people. Rather than their mistakes...
If he isn't proven guilty then everything will go on as it was before. There may be some negative stigma around the yogscast for a while after that, and probably more accusations, but... For now we don't know anything.

Those fans of the yogscast all you need to try and think about is tht this stuff has happened to multiple other youtubers. Multiple.
Sometimes it is true. But if it isn't, which I believe it probably (not saying definitely) won't be, then what did we spend weeks or months doing? Sending bad stigma to the yogscast, which is what them girls would want. Again this is purely IF Sjin is innocent.

Either way I'm sorry for the rambling, and I know I might loose a few foxlings or maybe even my friends on here through this post, I just think it's important to have an actual verdict before we go judging people...

That's just my opinion...

Sorry if you have bad opinions of me now. I just want to see the best in people...

-exza~ x