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Description I saw this picture and I just had to do something with it.
I'm sorry its small. Maybe I'll actually do it better when its not 10:46 at night.
Here's the info on it:[link] I wasn't sure what category to put it under, but I did not take that picture.
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Internet-Cancer In reply to ??? [2017-08-26 08:32:38 +0000 UTC]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!"

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vipersblade [2013-02-16 06:37:05 +0000 UTC]

some people just want to watch the world burn

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Internet-Cancer In reply to vipersblade [2013-02-16 06:48:22 +0000 UTC]

BURN HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

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vipersblade In reply to Internet-Cancer [2013-02-16 13:59:20 +0000 UTC]

*lego with a tack stuck through it* Like the guy who made one of those

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Internet-Cancer In reply to vipersblade [2013-02-17 03:22:41 +0000 UTC]

This tank is sort of deceptive. Those are recoilless rifles mounted on that tank, and are pretty much single-shot weapons. That's why this tank has six barrels - it only holds six shots.
Why does it have such a weapon mounted on it? A recoilless rifle's strength is just that-it has little or no recoil. That makes for a much lighter vehicle. However the reason it wasn't put into production is obvious. Every time you needed to reload you'd have to either turn away and get the hell off the battlefield or brave potential anti-tank weapons to reload.
So this tank, despite looking intimidating, is actually pretty conservative.

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vipersblade In reply to Internet-Cancer [2013-02-17 03:29:03 +0000 UTC]

Well damn

It'd be a very accurate six-shots though

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renjiabarai1 In reply to vipersblade [2015-01-21 03:18:12 +0000 UTC]

it had 3 shots for each recoilless rifle

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Internet-Cancer In reply to vipersblade [2013-02-17 03:32:27 +0000 UTC]

It would be.
Click on the wiki link in the description if you want to know more about it. It's the M50 Ontos, part of a series of very strange-looking tanks.

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SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 00:52:07 +0000 UTC]

When you absolutely, positively, have to kill every person in the room...

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 01:56:36 +0000 UTC]

Fuck the room.
When you absolutely, positively have to kill the entire BLOCK.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-09 03:06:04 +0000 UTC]

XD

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 03:20:39 +0000 UTC]

e.o Seriously...rail guns have the power of bunker-busting bombs...and they don't need explosives.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-09 03:50:46 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but they need a tremendous power source.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 04:02:30 +0000 UTC]

Nuclear reactors work.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-09 04:11:32 +0000 UTC]

Micro fusion.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 04:13:19 +0000 UTC]

Eh, we're not at that level of technology yet.
I'd hold out for a piezoelectric generator.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-09 04:20:35 +0000 UTC]

Fusion works, it just needs the same amount of power put in that it put out.
Piezo electronics- running currents of electricity through metal to alter its shape.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 05:48:48 +0000 UTC]

Er...do some research. The one and only reason fusion reactors are not in use (and believe me, they would be) is because the temperatures needed to sustain fusion are so damn high, and that there is no way to contain the reacting plasma. Once that plasma touches the walls of its container, it loses heat. So far Tomakok reactors have had the best results but it's far from perfect. The plasma is contained by a magnetic field, but plasma presents a tricky problem. The analogy most often used is trying to compress a balloon. No matter where you squeeze it, it bulges in another direction.

And piezo electrictronics are NOT what you think they are.
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Piezo electronics are not the same thing as piezoelectricity by a really friggin longshot. I've been researching this stuff since I was in middle school.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-09 10:45:20 +0000 UTC]

Err... I did do some research a long time ago- but I guess I confused some terms. Old age has its benefits.
My father was primarily an aerospace engineer, but he also worked in the nuclear industry for a time. I heard many stories about the TOKAMAK (when you try to condescend to someone try to get your wikipedia reference correct- I think your gross error in spelling betrays an your unfamiliarity with the subject XD) fusion reactors. There are a very select few who completely understand the workings of a fusion reactor, and they are all genius level intelligence.
No, I was referring to an aspect of piezo electronics, in the reverse aspect where electricity compels a mechanical action. Running current through a metal and changing its shape is generally referred to as magnetostriction (-if I even spelled that correctly, but I am too tired to check- and since I am not pedantic or have any compulsion to be I will leave it to you to check). So I really was not off by a long shot. Perhaps you need to read it closer yourself.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-09 18:07:48 +0000 UTC]

I'm not trying to be condescending, and no, I'm not a genius. But seriously, don't get your troll on just because I misspelled "Tokamak". That's not the point. The point is that they are still an imperfect technology no matter how you slice it The fact that they are not in operation above a research level is a testament to that, so don't go referencing your genius family members in your own condescending way whilst not so subtly trying to belittle my intellect.

I gave you three fucking links! Do your research and don't try to correct me on what I KNOW is correct!
Piezoelectric Effect: 
noun- the property exhibited by some nonconducting crystals of becoming electrically polarized when mechanically strained and of becoming mechanically strained when an electric field is applied.

What this means is that you heat something, rub, bash it together or whatever, and an electric current can be induced. And yes, I have read it quite a bit, and I did look up "megnaetorestriction".
Megnetostriction is indeed the opposite of the PIEZOELECTRIC EFFECT I am talking about. A piezoelectric generator has more potential than solar power. See, if you could convert heat directly into an electric current, then you'd basically have a monopoly on energy supply.
There is already a tiny, primitive version on the market in which you can charge shit with your shoes from the friction, and if this sounds like static electricity, no, it's not the same thing so don't bring that up.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-10 00:07:21 +0000 UTC]

I did not get my troll on - you did (and that is where my reaction stems from). When dealing with anyone, respect is an important aspect of communication. It indicates intention. This is particularly crucial when dealing with strangers who we are unfamiliar with.
I do not mind being corrected, but I do mind the manner in which it is done.
I am keenly aware that fusion power is not operationally effective. Micro-fusion reactors appear to be science fiction- but whatever does work may be either proprietary or classified. I don't recall ever stating anyone in my family was a genius. I said one worked in the nuclear industry- which is fission, not fusion. My father told me that it was a "select priesthood" that truly understood the intricacies of fusion and the Tokamak (he was not referring to himself- but rather he was referring with a a bit of awe to the men and woman who worked in that field). It is interesting that you believed I was trying to belittle your intellect. You really read in between the lines and revealed the crux of this whole interchange (in the sense of your underlying motivation in this exchange).
"becoming mechanically strained when an electric field is applied." - Yes, this is what I was referring to. An aspect of piezoelelectronics- the inverse effect. It is what I corrected myself after you raised a legitimate objection. You still seem to have that confused -as I corrected myself. Magnetostriction is related to piezo electric effect as it is the inverse. Changing a shape with electricity rather than the piezo electric effect that produces electricity from mechanical stress. That is what I stated the last time. You need to re-read that. I misremembered and mis-stated somethings, but I was not "off by a mile".
I have read all of this in a Popular Science- or Popular Mechanics magazine many many years ago.
I saw the application of placing it in boots (the military had an interest in that), and did see on the news a civilian version that was supposed to charge a cell phone.
"and if this sounds like static electricity, no, it's not the same thing so don't bring that up." That is another interesting exposition of a some imaginary dialogue you seem to have in your head. You seem to complain that your "intellect" is not given any credit- yet you keep reverting to hypocrisy and condescension. That is a very insecure "intellect".
{This is a side note and digression from our other conversation}. I noticed that you changed your icon to Che Guevara. You are aware that he was a fascist, a murderer, and a racist? I realize- like many other historical figures, he has been idealized, but his saintly iconic image had a very ugly reality to who he was and what he was willing to do.

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Neutral-Death In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-04-23 21:11:11 +0000 UTC]

tl;dr

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-10 02:41:24 +0000 UTC]

Uuugh...too much...

Although I will admit I'm hotheaded. Stress and...stuff...keep surfacing when I don't want them to. Sorry about that.

And nah. Did not know that. I mainly just change my icon to screw with people.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-10 04:47:00 +0000 UTC]

It is alright. I do not mind disagreement- just intentions. It is was good to browse that subject again after many years anyway.
Yes, I just brought up the Che thing because I myself found out about that when reading a bit on him. I am sure that most people would be a bit shocked if they ever had to meet their heroes. I am not saying that we all do not have our faults, and are therefore human, I just mean that people are often falsely portrayed in movies and media. I can understand wanting to change the existing corrupt regime, but they were just as bad in the end (same coin, but a different side).

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-10 07:09:48 +0000 UTC]

It is good to browse....I'm a little unfamiliar with it, now that I've calmed down (I was really, really pissed off earlier). Originally I was quite savvy with the subject because my books required that my knowledge be comprehensive, but not expert. These days I know more rudimentary biophysics, biology and psychology than I do straight physics and engineering. Sad, really. I mean I own a Tesla Coil so I should have at least some kind of knowledge. Though it's been collecting dust because it sort of became apparent that I don't really know how to properly tune it without damaging it. The way it's tuned right now, the secondary coil is fusing. I was originally going to use it in a hydrolysis experiment for a water-powered IC engine but that never got off the ground because I'm poor and unemployed.

I'm familiar with Che's pop culture image, not his biography, which I'm considering researched after I'm finished with the Soviet Union and World War 1...and all that obscure European history in Slovakia and Argentina for my character which is basically the bastard vampire daughter of Elizabeth Bathory.
She has a habit of picking the wrong sides of wars to fight on...First it was Austria-Hungary, and then the Soviets in World War 2. Plus, she's an avid aristocrat and has a very deep-seated superiority complex.
I think she represents myself at this point, and I don't like admitting that I kind of have an inferiority/superiority thing with people...

In the context of heroes, I don't look up to many people. The most heroic entity I look up to these days is Anonymous. Or V. And when a rogue collective groupthink and a fictional anarchist are what my heroes are, this is a sad world.
Or I'm just depressed at the moment. Or both.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-10 13:48:13 +0000 UTC]

Yes it is good to browse, and if you have intellectual curiosity it is good to satisfy it. Knowledge is never useless- it can give us a broader picture of the world.
I had a basic interest in science theory and will always read laymen's articles on interesting subjects.
Tesla was a great man, and unfortunately he is a lesser known scientist. Tesla coils are very cool, but I am very wary when it comes to electricity. It just takes a moment of absent minded action for disaster, and I am full of those moments. I saw an interesting portrayal of Tesla by David Bowie in the movie, "The Prestige".
I tend to read a lot of history- though not as much of late. Mostly ancient history (Greek, Roman, Dark Ages, etc), and my interest in that subject declines after the 17th century.
I did at one time read a lot of Eastern European Medieval and Renaissance history. Most of it I had to access through Dracula's own history - as there are not a load of popular books available (other than ones you would find hidden in a university library). He was obviously a psychopath- even by the princely standards of ruthlessness for the day, but he lived in interesting times. I like the whole arc of history and the drama that followed with the fall of the Byzantine empire and the rise of the Turk.
Yes, I read a bit about Erzsebet Bathory, and even saw a semi-historical drama recently. I forget the title, but the Actress was a blonde Frenchwoman. Even that version glossed over her misdeeds too much. I believe her most illustrious ancestor was Stefan Bathory who was King of Poland and Hungary for a time. She lived in a fractured Hungary (after Mohacs), and at the height of Turkish power. Your story sounds interesting, and I had similar ideas of characters through time stories.
As much as your personality may vascilate (as does everyone's when we are going through things), I doubt it approaches the unfettered cruelty of the nobles who were denied nothing. It reminds me of the stories of Caligula, Nero, and Commodus- all raised and corrupted in the royal houses.
Sometimes we take knocks in our life. This has been a depressing week for me as well. It does not always bring out our best.
I do not look up to many people in the sense that I no longer idealize any of them. I guess when I got older I realized that this world was not as black and white as I believed when I was younger. It can teach us compassion for others, as well as ourselves. No one is perfect. I have always respected the people who have had imperfect lives and managed to make a go of them. It gives me hope, and hope is the most important thing in life.
This can be a sad world, but in many ways it is actually better than it has ever been. I think that there is more hope in some ways, but we can never truly escape our nature.
If you are depressed, I sympathize - believe me. I understand. If you ever want to write and chat me up, you can go ahead. You have good ideas, and if you find something that you believe in and motivates you, you will probably feel a lot better.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-10 18:29:38 +0000 UTC]

Yes. Yes it can. A broad worldview is valuable.
I am basically a Tesla fanboy (although I lost interested in his biography after Wardenclyffe got taken down...I am a hypocrite...). I actually find electricity in this form soothing, believe it or not. That grating sound from the spark gap and the sound of crackling electrical arcs is just the right frequency to grate down the rough edges on my nerves...but it's like you said. After I purchased the device it came to my attention that I was playing around with the equivalent of 250,000 airborne VDC...and after I got zapped on the hand I stopped playing with it. Why? I realized it's not a toy.
I need to know the math behind it so I'm not actively destroying it when I tune it.
I am familiar with the safety precautions (I read the manual over and over) but it's not enough. I still need to know how to tune it, and I don't which is why it's been sitting in my basement for years.

Well my knowledge on the matter of Elizabeth Bathory (I find that spelling much easier than her actual Hungarian spelling) is still the bare minimum for what I need to know. Most of my research has been fractured and done in between college classes. But her romanticized image is a powerful tool for what I am going for in my book. She was only convicted for killing round 80 but some witnesses have a body count in the 600 range, and there are rumors that she bathed in the blood of virgin women to retain youth. While I think she is innocent in real life (the trial's details are very sketchy), I used her romanticized image to its limits. In this book she is a lazy vampire lord who rules over Slovakia. But then her bastard daughter, whom she has working as a servant, rats her out to the king of Poland.

See, in this story, vampire culture is brutal. It is the norm for parents of biological vampire children to feed off of their young. For nobility and their bastard children, it's even worse because their bloodlines are not seen as valid, and kept secret. This character, whose name has changed over the ages (her most recent alias is Lola Bloodworth), had had enough of her mother, so...you get the picture. Elizabeth was imprisoned, Lola snuck in and finished the job by beheading her mother and keeping the skull. Lola is responsible for killing off one of the last nobles of the vampire species, and ever since then she's been trying to build the Nosferatu species from the ground up, but do it in a way she sees fit.
And while my personality might not be so cruel, I have a tendency to make judgements and poise myself in public. There are times when I catch myself actively thinking about things like how low society is, and how I want to be better than that.

I do believe in things, a lot more than myself. I've led a pampered life, I don't know pain or agony. For all the research I do, I don't know what it's like to be deprived of everything or have an abusive household. Most of the people I talk to are victims of abuse and sociopaths. That's depressing but when I talk to even sociopaths I see that there's good in even them.
Overall I find the world incredibly frustrating. I see the problems but I feel powerless over everything.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-10 23:46:15 +0000 UTC]

Tesla was a great scientist, and the Tesla Coil is Iconic. I guess it related in the minds of men to Frankenstein (in the early films), and that sound of electricity crackling across the air never fails to summon those images in my mind. You sound well versed in the use and understanding of electricity, but - like all Godly powers, it is unforgiving of error. I do not have the focus necessary to avoid foolish actions around it. Be careful.
I had read about Bathory years ago. The recent film I saw was not bad, but it tried to make her more sympathetic than she really was. Here is a youtube link to that movie 'The Countess' with Julie Delpy. [link] You may like parts of it as it bears some of the themes that you discussed. The stories I recall about her show that she was beyond even a psychopath, but was psychotic. She would victimize mostly slovak girls who had little in the way of rights and needed a way of earning their keep. She would have them dragged outside naked in the middle of the winter and throw cold water on them (there is a famous painting of this you can probably find on Google image search). She learned from her husband Ferenc Nadasdy (who fought the Turks at the front and took prisoners home with him) how to torture. He would put small pieces of cloth between the toes of victims and set them alight. This would make them kick to put out the flames. It was supposedly very painful and would make the victim see stars- so it was called "star-kicking" (or something like that- it has been years). There are stories of her trying to bite off the breast of a servant girl too. She was out of control, and there was no reason for this behavior other than to satisfy her sadistic urges. She was also wealthy and powerful (the king owed her money)which explains why she got away with a lot. They came down on her because they wanted out of their debt. I am guessing she probably killed under 100- but that is only from the descriptions I remember reading. They said she would hide some bodies in the beds of the castle, and they must have stunk. I do not believe her to be innocent of these things. She was sensationalized in history, and by her enemies, but there are too many details that add some credibility to the charges.
Bathory was walled up in her own castle and soon after perished. It sounds fair enough given what she had done.
Your ideas sound interesting. I like brutal vampires. I like vampires being scary- not cuddly. They are really like malevolent spirits of the dead. If you read the Odyssey, there is a part where Odysseus has to journey to the entrance of the underworld to find a dead seer named Tireseus. All of the dead appear as spectral shades- surrounding him. He digs a pit and fills it with goat's blood. The shades all come to drink of it, but he fights them back, allowing only Tireseus to drink. With every drink Tireseus comes back to life a bit (a temporary effect). The blood is the life, and this shows how vampirism got its start. Vampires- especially in the older stories were more like ghosts. Anyway, I favor the old school vamps to the Twilight ones.
We all have personality quirks we wish we did not. Life is a work in progress, and self compassion and understanding are our best tools for improvement. I think that the only way to change society is to change ourselves. Set an example. It is all we can do.
Everyone fights their own battles. Even pampered people can have rough lives, and some poor can have serendipitous existences. I had a good upbringing, but I also had some bad things happen in my life as well - we all do or will. We can only roll with it and try to heal. I think that there is good in a lot of people, and sometimes it is ignorance and lack of empathy that can drive cruelty.
[Here is a little side note of concern on the subject of Sociopaths]. I have had a little experience in my life of meeting a few people like this. Some exhibited sociopathic traits, and one or two were probably the real deal. They are extremely dangerous individuals- and I am not implying that they are all murderous- for I am not certain many are. Here is a passage from some definition of Sociopathy that I can verify from personal experience."People suffering from Sociopathic disorders tend to be superficially charming. They also tend to display behavior which include manipulation of people around them, desire to be in control of everything and everyone around them that usually leads to grave consequences and shallow emotions." I have heard it said that because they do not experience or feel normal emotions like most people they must learn to observe and act to fake it. That is usually done to fit in (and can be necessary, as acting like a robot can rouse a group's suspicion). They can be very charming, and also very manipulative. A few years ago, I knew a woman like this. I will make a long story short, but she would play herself off as a very kind and compassionate person, but would stick a knife in people's backs (not literally, but often for no reason other than sadistic pleasure- for it is often the only emotion that they can feel). She would lie and manipulate, and suckered many people. My only advice is that if you know someone like that to avoid them at all costs. They have no compunction about ruining people's lives (some people can be ruthless and short-sighted, but they know of and intend all the damage they inflict.). I could share a few stories, but this letter is long enough for now.XD
You are not powerless, though it may feel like that at times. Determination can get one far in life- though it takes will and faith in one's self to exert that control over our own lives.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-11 01:25:57 +0000 UTC]

"The stories I recall about her show that she was beyond even a psychopath, but was psychotic."
Psychotic and psychopath are the same thing. What makes the difference is what's driving them. If it's rage or a rampant pleasure complex, then you have a problem (as such that's what I like to write...)
I actually like it when people are insane. It's led to an unhealthy habit of me seeking people out like this. 3 sociopaths this month alone. My last girlfriend had a blood fetish. The one before that had a thing about humiliation. I just like that kind of stuff...as fucked up as it is. Now as for the reasons behind the torture, you have to remember that there is a 360 years between now and what actually happened. Even if she is guilty for all of that three and a half centuries of exaggeration are still there.
As for motivation, she is actually in a prime place to go insane. Aristocracy was at its height when she was reigning. Now think about what it was like at the time. Poise, beauty, wealth and power all intertwined. All that pressure. There were diseases that could screw with peoples' heads, and women had corsets, tapeworms, and more to deal with. Women weren't allowed to get into the position she was in so she had a lot of pressure to deal with. And we don't know anything about her childhood. For all we know one of her parents abused her and screwed her over. It was not an uncommon thing since "domestic abuse" was not even a real term back then. Add all this up and you're basically putting someone in a pressure cooker. So I'm not really surprised at all that she went on such a rampage.
Sometimes having everything isn't enough, particularly when the whole social system you're living in is built solely upon appearances.
It's probably a good thing I wasn't around then, because she is exactly the type of person I'm attracted to.

Oh...God...NEVER mention the Odyssey to me...I hate that piece of shit with a burning passion. I know it's historical and I can respect that. But to me, shit is still shit no matter what era it came from. Odysseus is a sadistic pig and that's all I'll ever picture him as. He's the epitome of Mary Sue. He just bugs me, the story bugs me, and his so-called "motivation" really bugs me. He's trying to get home to his so-called wife but he goes out of his way to commit adultery every chance he gets.

But about the vampires...I have an entire history written on them. They aren't the center of my story but they are a crucial historic element. And they're on the halfway point between monsters and humans. Not "cuddly". They have more in common with sociopaths than actual people, and if angered they are liable to rip people to shreds. Think of them as "sociable animals".

Oh, believe me I've read up on it. I actually started seeking them out to know what to look for. When I am in a public setting, I'll eavesdrop and watch people. Reading body language and facial expressions is an underrated art.
Meeting them and talking is just a supplement to my study. I know the risks, and I should add that like you said, not all of them are murderous. In fact, very few are. Most are content with their manipulative ways but a few...snap. The key part of a sociopath is a lack of empathy and emotion, but not a blindness or deafness to it. A key part of their humanity is missing and they know it. The sad part is that they can't fill it, so their actions come from the fact that they try to take it away from others.

Now this is where my experience combines with my research. There are two types; the inferior and the superior. The "superior" types who look down on humanity as their playthings and do not acknowledge their condition, blaming everyone else. Intellectually they know what they are but they fail to attach meaning to the label. Humanity is their toy and the subject of their revenge.

Inferior types are like alcoholics without alcohol. They want, no, they need connection and empathy, yet no matter how much they try they can't get it. But day after day they have to watch us continue, to share happiness, to share love and generosity and deep down, they know that they can't have any of that. It's really sad. The superior types are monumental douchebags and the inferior types are attention whores.
Oddly enough, it's the inferior types you have to watch out for since they are liable to snap and go on a rampage through their high school. The superior types may go on to become corporate executives and wreak havoc from a high level, or they may become crime bosses.

In every case it's tragic. I had to drop a "friendship" with one after he started wanting to tell me his suicide story. He was a "superior" type close to breaking. He became offended when I said I didn't want to know the story behind him trying to kill himself. Again, he wanted that connection. He blatantly stated he wanted a friend, and that is in fact all he wanted out of life. It wasn't good for me to keep talking about his fire and brimstone worldview, and it wasn't good for him to make a connection where there was none.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-11 03:07:01 +0000 UTC]

I forget what I wrote in regards to psychopaths etc., but I guess the real measure comes down to -can she fake sanity? I do not remember the details, but at times some of the stories seemed to indicate she lost total control. There was a story(I think this one involved her) that there was a monastery next door to her castle and that the monks would throw pots and pans at the walls to cover up the screaming coming from her castle. That is a real visceral reaction. I do not think that her torture of the girls is exaggerated. Torture was pretty common and acceptable in those days, but even they had norms which she surpassed. Part of what they accused her of was Satanic worship, and that was probably an exaggeration, but supposedly her uncle was a Satanist. I would not be surprised either way. She was probably bored and the sensation of such actions may have thrilled her. I can look her up again, but she was not a savory person to my recollection. I was thinking to myself why there is an admiration for some villains sometimes- like Hannibal LEctor. I think in some ways people admire the freedom, power, and control they exhibit. They are like alpha predators. Nothing hurts them- they hurt others. They are the animal unleashed. Sometimes it seems with these serial killers that they need that control and power which they do not possess in normal society.
I have known many people with (as is popularly assigned) "disorders" of some sort. Mostly Bi-polar. I knew one schizophrenic well (though I had met others). The Schizophrenic was the one that was sociopathic. I know some people say that is impossible, and it is confusing pathologies, but I am not so sure. It is possible she was faking the Schizophrenia- or misdiagnosed, but she was definitely a textbook sociopath. I usually meet these people in the more dysfunctional times of my life, as dysfunction has a way of finding dysfunction. In the end it is never worth it. I am too old to deal with people throwing shit fits and rapidly cycling through their emotions. It is like playing russian roulette.
I agree with many of your observations regarding these individuals. "The sad part is that they can't fill it, so their actions come from the fact that they try to take it away from others." Spite. Envy. I am more wary of the (as your label them) the superior types. They may not go on the rampages, but they try to get others to do their dirty work - like crime bosses. This one I mentioned was also extremely passive aggressive. I was not sure (because I was not sure if it was really schizophrenia or just purely sociopathic) if she was projecting what she was onto others- due to her inability to face what she was, or if she was just pure evil. I hindsight, everything she did was an attempt to bring out the worst in others. She tried to make people feel jealous, hateful, and insecure- everything she was. I would only say that the way to keep healthy and sane is to try to limit your exposure to dysfunctional people- in the sense that a drowning/panicking person will try to drag you down with them. They are so wrapped up in their own bullshit it can be hard for them to see beyond themselves.
Reading/browsing your vampire history was interesting and thorough. You could write good sci-fi. You have the mind for it. To me, I tend to see most fictional characters as metaphors. Odysseus is a guy I did not understand until I became older. You can still crave goodness in life but console yourself with expedient measures. His journey taught him what mattered in life. I see most of his adventures as metaphors. (I'll give a quick example. In some mythologies consorting with someone meant that you took were connected to a metaphor. For instance, in Ancient Ireland the Kings married the Goddess Mebd, but she would give her favors to many men and kings. In real life she would be a slut, but the metaphor was one of the ephemeral nature of sovereignty) Also, he was a character of his times in many ways. Raiding was a way to make a living, slavery was fine, rape was okay. Not so sympathetic if we remember he was responsible for some heinous acts and atrocities.
Have you posted these stories of Lola yet?

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-11 03:29:21 +0000 UTC]

Yes...psychopaths and sociopaths are masters at faking sanity. It's sort of their thing that makes them scary. They're animals in the skin of a human.
From what you're telling me, I would have loved to meet her...it's sort of a fetish of mine...I like insane bloodthirsty chicks a lot more than is healthy...

Now, ahem. Serial killers are a different matter entirely. The defining trait of a serial killer is that they do not kill because they want to, but because they have to. Whatever emotional or sexual satisfaction they get is like a deep breath of fresh air to them. The time in between their killings is letting the pressure and passion build up until they can't contain themselves.
What she was doing was empathizing. Making others feel the same confusion and burning madness inside of her. It's a connection and the only one she had. She was desperate. I am quite certain she was faking schizophrenia.

I've met more than my share of mentally ill people. One of them was what I now believe to be a delusional schizophrenic. And this will sound very crazy, but I think he also had low-level telepathy. Some of what he said matched too many of my own memories and thoughts for it to be pure coincidence. But anyways, I am well aware of their habit of dragging you down. I met a drug dealer who may or may not have been a sociopath and he tried to sell to me during class. He was the most repulsive lowlife I'd ever met. I just wanna take his face and ram it through a wall. Drug dealers are by far the lowest of the low in this world. They are one of the few types of people I genuinely have a burning hatred for.
Being around a sociopath is like buying from a dealer. The more they give you, the more you become their bitch.

My vampire history thingy is actually supplemental to two actual books in my gallery, one of them titled Seraphim Beta and the other titled Fall of the Devils. If you're looking for the demonic godlike vampire, head to Seraphim Beta. If you're looking for in depth studies of vampires and their role in the world, head to Fall of the Devils. Both of them are heavy on the scifi.

I don't care about the historical context, I still forced myself to read about this jerk-off. he still bugs the crap out of me. I saw no character development, just him getting his way through slaughter and theft. And sex.

I'm still working on her story, actually. Getting the historical context just right has been difficult. I'm basically doing this on top of college work and my history is a little incomplete.

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SylvanSmith In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-02-11 04:57:38 +0000 UTC]

"What she was doing was empathizing. Making others feel the same confusion and burning madness inside of her. It's a connection and the only one she had. She was desperate. I am quite certain she was faking schizophrenia." This is very perceptive, and I think that it can be their way of sharing at times. I am sure you would have found the situation interesting. Here is a vague description- if it bores you just gloss over it, but it really made me wonder as to what was really going on in her head.
She was raised in a household where supposedly (as I take everything she said with caution) her mother was unloving. Her older sister was supposedly the same way, and she claims to have been a mother figure to her younger brother. Her father was a doctor, and her 2 siblings became doctors as well.
She was supposedly an artist- but in reality she produced little to nothing. One night she was telling me how sociopathic her sister was by describing her sister as a negligent doctor that let at risk babies in her ward die. This to me was a paranoid episode- and in hindsight I felt she was describing her own sociopathy (not that she killed babies, but that she had little empathy for anyone and was manipulative- all traits she gave her sister). She would seem normal in many situations, but when she drove or when she first met people she could appear zombie-ish with no facial expression or affect. She was an attractive girl, but was very immature an often seemed to project bad motives onto people. She would display paranoid ideas at times (but they were not over the top). Supposedly she was also bi-polar (she claimed), but her bi polar was not the equivalent of what I had seen in others (in the sense that she wasn't overly moody all of the time).
The story became interesting -or pathetic, when other players with issues became involved. I will not bore you with the entire convoluted episode, but just give a simple timeline. I met this girl ( I will call A) through my brother- who had known her for years. She needed someone to help move things in her apartment as she had a bad back from a car accident. I met her and she was a little shy, but she warmed up to me. She wound up telling me that she was concerned about a relationship my brother had with a girl, and thought to tell me as I could intervene. I too had concerns from things I knew, but apparently A. distorted some facts. Now, that could be chalked up to paranoia and delusion- but in hindsight it seemed that it was deliberately done with a design in mind. She (I believe) was jealous of my brother's relationship. She liked being the center of attention, and perhaps if she could not have a relationship- neither could he. She was pretty enough where that could happen very quickly, but it became obvious that anyone who came to know her did not stick around. She kept obsessing over my brother's relationship, and her hysteria was a bit infectious.
She then accessed an aquaintance of my brother from facebook (as I am certain by design). This was a woman (I will call her M.) who dated a friend of his whom he kept in contact with (my brother had no interest in her otherwise).M. was bi-polar, but medicated. Most of the time she was very subdued, but would flash her anger at times. I have noticed that bipolar people are often marked by irrational decisions motivated by extreme emotions -which in my experience always had a delusional basis; and this will come into play in the story.
A. started hanging out with M.- and though we had all been out previously as a group a few times previously, she took no interest in her. I believe her interest only came when she saw me hanging out with M. I say this because A. had a habit of turning on others, especially females when they received more attention then she had. I often overlooked her bad behavior because I figured it was the Schizophrenia, but I always had nagging suspicions that she was manipulative (it was not overt yet). It turned out that A. started talking to M. all about my brother and his girlfriend - to which she claimed she would keep his confidence "and that [she] is only telling me this because she is concerned". M. was not overly manipulative and seemed to have knowledge of my brother's relationship (which she allowed me to believe came from my brother's girlfriend because she felt she had to protect her real source A.who no doubt told her to lie). When I talked to my brother I figured out very quickly the source of the slander and the actual truth of events. I questioned M. about it, and she admitted it was A. who told her things. A. (and this is the funny/scary part) was starting in on me, calling me a gossip (which would be a mild way of stating what she really was implying/projecting). Of course M. would not blame A. because A. was a good person. M.'s bipolar meant that if your could be emotionally charismatic you could stick a knife in her but she would still believed you loved her. There are many more details, but I will not bore you (as I have probably done).
I heard many scary stories about A. after the truth unravelled. She had accused a few men of rape (which because of her lying nature I will never believe). A. was extremely passive aggressive and managed to convince M. that she was the real victim and she was scared that we would come to avenge ourselves on her (which M. did not believe, but "understood") She understood it because she was probably in love with A., and A. knew it.
I still cannot figure out if she was truly schizophrenic, or simply misdiagnosed, etc. I have read online stories of people dealing with schizophrenic spouses who were manipulative, but their behavior seemed predicated upon a delusion or paranoia. What was A. paranoid about? M. did not believe A. was manipulative despite the clear evidence and lies (there are many stories of things she has pulled), and went so far as to say her therapist did not believe that schizophrenics could be manipulative! That seems contrary to everything I have read. I would be interested in your take on this, as you have experience with these people. I met one other schizophrenic in person, and he was very nice- but had some problems.
I do not believe in telepathy, but there are people who can read people very well. It depends on the type of drugs someone sells. If they sell weed, it is not as big a deal (as long as it isn't to kids). If they sell any hardstuff it is bad. Some of them are addicts themselves who sell to finance their habit. Drugs are a sure way to throw away your life.
Odysseus was accessible to the listeners of his time because they would relate. They did the same things. His tale is a cautionary one. I compare it to watching the wolfman. The deeper we get into archetypes the more of a morality play it becomes.
What is your major in college?

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Internet-Cancer In reply to SylvanSmith [2012-02-11 05:12:49 +0000 UTC]

Well...with this description it sounds more like schizophrenia. Paranoid schizophrenia is the exact term in which the victim believes that the "world is against them". Delusions of grandeur and persecution are the most prominent and this is what it sounds like.
I was basing my assumption on her vindictive and self-important nature before you went into depth like that.

As for telepathy, I believe in a great deal of this stuff. In fact I believe part of this man's illness was due to that. In hindsight he touched upon a great deal of my own memories. Like I said, too many to be coincidental. Furthermore, I do believe in foresight, or the ability to see into the future. On that topic, if I told you why I believe in it, you'd brand me as insane right here and now.

Drugs...really bug the crap out of me. Weed is something I tolerate simply because I find the users to be entertaining and it's pretty harmless apart from the fact that it still gums your lungs up. I'm all for that drug being legal.

Never watched Wolfman...

My major? Something called New Media with a concentration in Informatics, which is basically a concentration in programming.

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-23 21:11:40 +0000 UTC]

Was that a contest of who could make the longest comment?

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-23 22:00:22 +0000 UTC]

Even if it was I fail to see how its your business.
but as it happens, no.
I just get into my discussions.

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-23 22:19:00 +0000 UTC]

lol, okay.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-23 22:41:24 +0000 UTC]

By the way I've had comments that literally take up 3 pages in MS Word.

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-23 23:44:28 +0000 UTC]

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-24 01:11:26 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Owner

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-24 01:41:29 +0000 UTC]

How long of essays did you have to write in college!?

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-24 02:31:47 +0000 UTC]

Did you graduate?

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-24 02:32:40 +0000 UTC]

Not yet.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-24 03:06:08 +0000 UTC]

The super-long essays you only get when you go up and BEYOND the 100 level classes. So I'm stuck with one-level above high school level essays. The longest I've had is 4 pages. Now go read a chapter from one of my books. Those are anywhere between 20 and 40 pages long.

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-25 02:53:59 +0000 UTC]

Rat pitootie! That doesn't sound delicious.

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-25 03:02:46 +0000 UTC]

thanks...

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-25 03:04:55 +0000 UTC]

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-25 03:22:30 +0000 UTC]

Always encouraging

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Neutral-Death In reply to Internet-Cancer [2012-04-25 13:17:43 +0000 UTC]

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Internet-Cancer In reply to Neutral-Death [2012-04-25 14:30:02 +0000 UTC]

[link]

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