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Published: 2007-05-04 09:54:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 350; Favourites: 4; Downloads: 22
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Taken near Hilversum/The Netherlands.I wonder what you think of the various colour-elements of the greens in this shot. I must admit that I am still not very happy about them, even though I added some yellow to the original version. Still these colours are far too candy-like, I find.
Is this a Nikon problem? I liked the Panasonic colours, especially the greens, much more, as I experienced them as far more natural.
I tried various programs of the camera, but have at the moment not yet found a sort of green for forest shots, that does please my eye.
Perhaps someone has an idea what to do about it, apart from selling the camera ...
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Like most photography, i think it's personal taste... your the one that has to be happy with it. Personally i think it's quiet apt & believe the sun's playing a large part here.. checking that large 'fir'? in the b'ground. Young spring growth is very bright... give it time & you may find things different in a few weeks
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Indeed personal taste has a very important role in this. So I must just find my golden mean on this new camera ... Still trying ...
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You'll get there i'm sure
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You're right, the green filter here is way too brutal. But still, the contrast acts like a fourth dimension. Don't be sad about it
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I shall partly change the white-balance, partly have to get used to it. Thanks a lot for being so supportive.
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Maybe try doing something with the white balance. Sometimes it helps.
I love every kind of green 
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The shot looks ok to me - if you prefer you can reduce the saturation a bit with software or with camera settings in Manual mode !
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Hmm I have a Nikon D80 and I don't really have this prob
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Many thanks. Yes, that "optimize image" setting may help to get the colours a little softer. For the rest, I suppose, it will be a matter of getting used to the new intensity of colours.
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I think you are too strict with yourself and with your new camera,Juergen!! 
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Yes, perhaps I am too strict. As to the camera, I had expected so much of it. Perhaps too much ...
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Is this the new camera you got yourself?
I don't know the answer to the problem, other than a possible desaturation, but that shouldn't be necessary. How annoying to get this happening with something new when what you have used before has brought you such excellent results..
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Yes, it is the new Nikon D80 which makes me a bit desperate about the greens. Perhaps I have not yet found the right program. So I shall keep trying.
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Not sure what you mean by "program"? Do you not use Photoshop or Paintshop Pro to do your adjustments in? Or do you use RAW files? It's just that I know in every one of these it's possible to adjust any one particular color, or the whole balance of color if you want to.
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Yes, I use Photoshop. Not RAW. Did not dare to try that yet. You see, I just like to look and then take a shot, not thinking about all these settings etc. It is nature which I love, not all these technicalities. But I see that I start whining again, so I quickly stop.
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No, definitely not whining! Everyone who really enjoys taking nature shots (or anything else for that matter) with a serious need to produce what you actually see, and to make a wonderful picture composition definitely needs all the right technology, but unfortunately it just gets more and more complicated, particularly if it's not working!
I don't use PS (couldn't ever afford it!) and have used PSP since I began digital artwork about 8 years ago. That means I can't really give you any good ideas about how to change those greens inside the program you're using. In PSP one can go to Adjust Hue, Saturation and Lightness, you can select the particular color adjustment you want to make. I imagine in PS there's a similar facility. It really is just those greens, isn't it? Almost as though there's a color cast on the actual lens or something. Certainly the more recent shots with green in them do not match up to all those previous ones before this camera was used. Maybe there's too much yellow in the green.. Have you tried any filters with the actual lens at all when taking shots of trees and green stuff? (We don't use Nikon so not familiar with that particular camera.) Another thought is, have you contacted the actual manufacturers themselves and asked them about it? Maybe they would change the camera, or tell you what you need to do about it to get it right?
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Many thanks for giving again so many constructive thoughts to my NIKON colour problems. I realize now that it is not only the green, but that all colours are much more saturated than I was used to. With the rose shot that I submitted today, I actually do like these colours.
As to Photoshop I fortunately got it as a basic version (which up to now was enough for me) with the Windows software that came with the computer in 2002. Now they no longer put it in the parcel.
There is indeed a facility of adjusting Hue, Saturation and Lightness in the Photoshop programme. I never used it before with the Panasonic, but now discovered it and may try it time and again. But I remain somewhat sceptic about all these "tricks". On the other hand I realize that the first "tricks" are done in the camera itself, and if the camera has a particular programme for producing extra saturated and vivid colours, then you are hanging.
As to approaching someone, I do not have the strength at the moment. When I had to change that first lense, I was ok fortunately, but now I have no fighting spirit. So I will first continue trying out all the many settings. And then we shall see.
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I totally understand that.
Richard (husband) is going to get in touch with a photographer friend who uses Nikon ('though I don't know what model) to see if he can simply say what program to select on the camera. He does similar types of photo-shoots as yourself - up at the Dawn Chorus and off out there in the early mists etc. I know this is important to you, and I'm a bit surprised if there isn't anyone else here at dA using the same model as yourself who could have helped you. I'll get back to you as soon as I have anything to report.
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I am already getting on. You see there are so many settings on this camera. I just have to find the best ones. The Panasonic was/is much simpler, but fortunately had/has a very good warm colour spectrum.
Many thanks for taking so much trouble.
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Yup, it all takes a lot of getting used to, and depending on our state of mind, we either take it all in or we just don't! lol!
Still no contact yet with our friend - he must be away (not unusual)!
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There is indeed nothing else but arranging oneself with many things ...
Please do not worry about finding your friend, as far as I am concerned. I can wait.
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I take a photo by nikon d80 and with lens like yours. I don't use programs but take a photo in manual. When I am in forest, sometimes I choose "more colorfull" option from menu. At the lensI have z filter UV (0) to protect lens not to correct photo, but it do it a little.
My english is to poor to make better advice to your problem, but I hope what you try and try at last you find a way to make a photo which pleased you
This photo isn't bad. I like all those greens and forest full of sun
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You are correct, I've said in a different Photo, but you are right.
Using a different white balance is a good option as well.
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Many thanks for reacting in such a constructive and supportive way.
With programs I really mean those many options you have to influence the white balance, the saturation etc.
For the rest I use the S-program in order to get the smallest possible f-number for long shots, to call them like this, as another problem with this kind of camera and lense is the shallow DOF. No long lanes taken with f 2.8 or f 4 as with the Panasonic. Apart from the fact that the full zoom of the Nikor lense only has f 5.6. Well, one cannot have everything.
To get a smaller f-number, I used ISO 800 with this shot. Normally quite unthinkable in bright sunshine, but you have to become inventive.
Do you think it might be useful to bring up these questions in the NIKON club (after joining it, of course)?
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I think that aks about your prolem in Nikon Club is a great idea
ps. I was reading, that t low iso colors are more bright and colordful when at high iso. For landscape photo I use iso100 or 200, of course it canot be too dark
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Many thanks for the links. It is very kind of you to be so very helpful.
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