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MagicMan001 [2014-07-18 16:50:32 +0000 UTC]
*sighs* Yep, I'm starting to get the vibe of the vengeance-seeking, obsessed and possibly genocidal version of Shining Armor that often shows up in a lot stories where changelings are involved. Which makes me think that changelings are probably going to be shown "not all being so bad". I know I'm supposed to feel sad for him that he's like this way, but it's just so commonplace in fics with him and changelings it's kind of a surprise when he's not. And no, that's not me saying it's justified, it's just I read a lot of fan stories.
Honestly, though, here's my problem: Shining Armor just doesn't make good for a 'protector of his sister and wife, Knight in Shining Armor' kind of guy. Not only because Equestria's pretty much a matriarchy, but Twilight and Cadance are not the ones who need protecting. They are perfectly capable of defending themselves. THEY saved HIM. He kinda lost all his rights to the "knight in shining armor" schtick quite some time ago.
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Jarkes In reply to MagicMan001 [2014-07-23 03:10:15 +0000 UTC]
I've at least seen stories that at least have him realize that he's going too far (though usually he has to be called out for it first)...
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MagicMan001 In reply to Jarkes [2014-07-23 09:49:49 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but for me at least, I like to see Shining Armor having the supposed integrity and understanding of what is wrong already. That would speak far greater of his character instead of turning him into a cardboard cutout obsessed, blood hungry genocidal fucknut that dates back as early as 'Pocahontas' for the sake of drama. And the excuse is almost always, "oh, well of course he'd hold a grudge against them", except there's a big friggin difference between having a character holding a justified grudge and them acting like a genocidal nut case. Huge difference.
But what really bothers me is the sheer lack of consequences. In real life, if someone "goes too far" in this matter, they can't just called out on it and a face heel turn. When it comes to this, when you've crossed that line, you have crossed it and have to pay the price. Shining Armor almost never has to face the realistic consequences of his actions in these stories; he gets a fav heel turn and that suddenly makes it all okay and he gets off Scott free. So I basically have to watch his character be butchered without the cathartic satisfaction of seeing him get rightfully punished. That is unbelievably frustrating.
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alexwarlorn [2014-07-18 08:29:53 +0000 UTC]
"hunt down every last one of them" careful Shining, those are the words that lead to becoming a monster.
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Jarkes In reply to alexwarlorn [2014-07-23 02:58:29 +0000 UTC]
...Now this is just weird. I had been on the fence as to whether or not to link you to this comic for a while, and then I see that you found it anyway.
On your comment: I get the feeling that this is going to be one of the "he realizes he's starting to go too far before he's fully crossed the line" stories. Kind of like Picard in Star Trek: First Contact.
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alexwarlorn In reply to Jarkes [2014-07-23 03:09:37 +0000 UTC]
I see wonder in the IDW comic what Celestia did to "take care of" those changeling prisoners Ponyville had.
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Jarkes In reply to alexwarlorn [2014-07-23 03:11:56 +0000 UTC]
...Not sure what you're saying here.
...But seriously, how exactly DID you manage to find this comic? And have you read it from the beginning?
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alexwarlorn In reply to Jarkes [2014-07-23 03:20:01 +0000 UTC]
Yes I have read it from the beginning. I read it back when it ended shortly after Trixie got freaked out by the guy saying he was going to kill Twilight. Then I forgot abot it until a day or two ago.
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Jarkes In reply to alexwarlorn [2014-07-23 03:23:18 +0000 UTC]
All right.
And like I said, I get the feeling that in THIS story, Shining Armor is going to rein himself in (pun not intended) before he goes too far in seeking vengeance.
...What do you otherwise think of the comic so far?
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MagicMan001 In reply to alexwarlorn [2014-07-18 16:33:57 +0000 UTC]
Oh, why not? By now, it's been so overdone with Shining now, it's kind of expected. Nowadays, it's much of a shock when he isn't porteayed as a hyper paranoid, unhinged and genocidal fucknut in this fandom.
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PrincesseLuna [2014-06-22 02:17:01 +0000 UTC]
Wow the emotions .. you're very good ! I can't wait for next ! Your comic is AWESOME .
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Jarkes [2014-06-22 00:47:19 +0000 UTC]
What really bothered me about season 4 (though it didn't keep me from enjoying it) is how the writers seemed to go out of their way to prevent these two from sharing any screen time together. He wasn't even MENTIONED in "Three's a Crowd", and you'd think that however happy Twilight might have been to see Cadance, she would've at least been a little disappointed that Shining couldn't come with her. But nothing, not even a throwaway line saying where he was (it'd be as simple as saying that one of them had to stay in the Crystal Empire to defend it). Heck, Shining Armor only appeared in the third-to-last episode of the season and the second part of the finale, and barely did anything. He got his magic drained by Tirek really quickly, and while I completely expected that, it would've been nice if he had actually tried to defend the Princesses in the throne room. Him reacting to Discord's betrayal didn't really mean much, since they had never interacted on-screen (which also makes me wonder if they encountered each other the first time Discord was freed).
I really hope they address this in season 5. Give Shining and Cadance some heartwarming moments together. Heck, take it a step further and have Shining Armor feel upset with himself over his constant failures (maybe even reveal how he responded to the threats of Nightmare Moon and Discord). Just... their introduction was meant to show us how much they loved each other, and ever since then, it seems like the writers have been trying to AVOID showing that.
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joelashimself In reply to Jarkes [2014-06-24 00:59:12 +0000 UTC]
I've always wanted a deeper narrative into shining and cadence's relationship too.
Kinda why I went with this.
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Mikkillerib [2014-06-12 11:03:01 +0000 UTC]
Woah. I had not expected Cadence to have a nervous breakdown.
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TheScorpion0081 [2014-06-12 01:48:31 +0000 UTC]
Must take mind off of touching scene! Must... stop... feels...!
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SemiJuggalo [2014-06-12 01:34:00 +0000 UTC]
You did an excellent job depicting Cadance's emotional outburst! Now, I just hope that Shining Armor thinks about how he's going to respond to this!
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NovaCinder [2014-06-11 23:18:01 +0000 UTC]
awwwww she wubs him so much.
lol what Armor said, Hunt them all down
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lightsideluc [2014-06-11 20:11:08 +0000 UTC]
>Dat mouth
I though we were going to get some vore fetish from the thumbnail
Also, it's not very princess-ly to have your nose leaking, Cadence.
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CommanderWiggles [2014-06-11 05:28:02 +0000 UTC]
I REALLY like how you're portraying Shining Armor and Cadence. I love this character development.
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joelashimself In reply to CommanderWiggles [2014-06-11 05:33:01 +0000 UTC]
(Stands at attention and salutes.)
"Thank you Commander!"
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CommanderWiggles In reply to joelashimself [2014-06-11 21:49:31 +0000 UTC]
I can get used to this.
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Micka33 [2014-06-11 04:22:26 +0000 UTC]
Man, the expressions in the last 3 panels are really well-done! You captured the emotions perfectly!
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joelashimself In reply to Micka33 [2014-06-11 05:31:52 +0000 UTC]
Thanks a lot!
I actually had to stop for a moment when drawing that part.
Believe it or not, the characters emotions effect me too.
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Micka33 In reply to joelashimself [2014-06-12 00:42:28 +0000 UTC]
I actually believe that. It's not uncommon for artists to channel their own emotions in order to draw specific scenes. Some also make the facial expressions themselves as they try to draw them. Artists can get pretty invested in their work like that
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Pizor [2014-06-11 03:59:08 +0000 UTC]
It goes without saying, but thank you for making Shining Armour a knight with a sense of duty and honor. You know...instead of that corn-dog guzzling ultra bro personality that the fandom dumped on him for some reason.
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AngelWarriorQueen In reply to Pizor [2014-06-15 00:04:52 +0000 UTC]
Agreed strongly. Especially since the whole "Canterlot Wedding" Season finale was practically out of my childhood playtime stories, with the brave princess saving her beloved noble knight from the wicked witch. So whenever I see these goofy renditions of him...I dunno how to describe it. It just...Doesn't resonate as strongly.
I like the adorkable Shining Armour from the comics, I love the Knightly Shining Armour we have here but I really don't care for the CheeseFactory Shining Armour.
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FiMvisible In reply to Pizor [2014-06-11 07:42:45 +0000 UTC]
^ This. I personally find it refreshing whenever someone steps out of the accepted fanon to develop something more interesting (so far as it's not too OOC ofc).
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batosan [2014-06-11 02:32:13 +0000 UTC]
That question rings in the ears of every soldier that leaves loved ones behind to do their duty.......(Yes. I've heard this.....whats worse is the wife was an Air Force Sergeant for years too..She got out when we married.....she knew the call .... she could not go. It was said as I prepped for my second deployment to Iraq......Fifth deployment to the sandbox ...it finally got to her...) Good to hear from you!
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joelashimself In reply to batosan [2014-06-11 02:38:05 +0000 UTC]
Good to her form you too soldier.
That's exactly what I'm making this section about. I knew you'd catch on right away.
Being the spouse of a fighting man is a harsh life.
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Ver0Nightmare242 [2014-06-11 02:29:34 +0000 UTC]
Once again your facial expressions and detail stun me!
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AngelWarriorQueen [2014-06-11 01:54:12 +0000 UTC]
Shining Armour don't be a ninny! Go Hug your wife right now! DX
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