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Description Apophysis flame fractal using bipolar plugin. Also see Turmoil and `MichaelFaber 's Expanse .
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Comments: 38

Raelor [2008-09-19 02:44:11 +0000 UTC]

Amazing! Love the colours and the spirals! Great job

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HauntedVisions [2008-07-15 03:35:04 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful!

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rormnsa2gether [2008-02-16 21:58:04 +0000 UTC]

love it

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Bootsbounty [2008-02-05 20:59:55 +0000 UTC]

Well done!

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sci-clone [2008-01-24 08:53:10 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm gonna you ... and all pleasure is mine !

Have a GREAT day!

C U

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fractalinda [2007-09-23 23:15:09 +0000 UTC]

Amazing work!

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EarthGoddess [2007-09-22 16:46:02 +0000 UTC]

Loving it

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GoldenLordFreeza [2007-09-14 16:32:24 +0000 UTC]

Joel, your work is awesome!!!

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ToAPP [2007-09-13 19:30:49 +0000 UTC]

Very nice! I'll certainly have to give the bipolar plugin a whirl meself!

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dana-martinez [2007-09-13 13:00:57 +0000 UTC]

Cool - lots of energy and movement

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Phoenix-22 [2007-09-10 22:33:22 +0000 UTC]

Love how it looks like little balls of flame, or some kind of weird dragon skin-related something or other.

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Colliemom [2007-09-10 04:02:59 +0000 UTC]

Wow!

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baba49 [2007-09-09 22:17:18 +0000 UTC]

Gorgeous!

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LonesomeFaery [2007-09-07 20:48:42 +0000 UTC]

Congratulations! I loved your piece so much I featured it in my journal this week! Keep up the good work!

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JoelFaber In reply to LonesomeFaery [2007-09-08 06:13:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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rocknrollismyguitar [2007-09-05 19:02:17 +0000 UTC]

Bipolar? So the variation works half the time and the other half it tells you to F*** Off and walks away?

Can't wait for it man, great job as always.

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JoelFaber In reply to rocknrollismyguitar [2007-09-07 04:58:04 +0000 UTC]

Precisely! Actually, in mathematics, bipolar coordinates are a type of orthogonal coordinates based on the Apollonian circles. [link]

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rocknrollismyguitar In reply to JoelFaber [2007-09-08 01:18:16 +0000 UTC]

you lost me at orthogonal. i may know a lot of math, but not quite that much

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JoelFaber In reply to rocknrollismyguitar [2007-09-08 06:15:39 +0000 UTC]

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lyc [2007-09-05 11:28:41 +0000 UTC]

bipolar? mΓΆbius! [link]

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JoelFaber In reply to lyc [2007-09-07 05:11:03 +0000 UTC]

It's based on bipolar coordinates [link] . MΓΆbius transformations are different (and can be done in apophysis using the spherical transform and post-transforms). For your personal projects or GPL'ed releases --> [link]

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lyc In reply to JoelFaber [2007-09-07 05:55:15 +0000 UTC]

ahh, that's clarified a lot for me, thanks i curious, seeing the effects of the mΓΆbius xform in apo renders but nothing in the code to directly do it... shows what l33t flame-making skills i have

(btw, i'm going to abstain from flame rendering a bit during my finals, there's enough conflict of interest with my new 3d stuff as it is; after that though i hope to help out :devmobilectro: with some apo plugins which will of course be released.)

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JoelFaber In reply to lyc [2007-09-08 06:07:40 +0000 UTC]

The name "spherical" actually comes from stereographic projection. It isn't directly coded as a variation. If you look at the decomposition on the wikipedia page [link] it is a little easier to see how it works:
f1(z) : performed by the affine transformation (which includes translation)
f2(z) : This is exactly the same as the spherical variation.
f4(z) α΅’ f3(z) : The post-transform is another affine transformation (so it does dilation, rotation and translation).

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lyc In reply to JoelFaber [2007-09-08 08:38:22 +0000 UTC]

that actually makes a lot of sense because in the flame algorithm f_{1,3,4} can be modified too via weights for even more interesting effects. pretty nifty

also, i think i'm finally starting to see the utility of scripts, to set up things like this. i haven't ever seen or used one, but have been told that it's the basis of all good flame-making.

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JoelFaber In reply to lyc [2007-09-08 20:41:56 +0000 UTC]

If by "weights" you mean the relating to the probability of being selected in the chaos game then, no. There is only one weight for the entire transformation.

Scripts are not the basis of all good flame-making Scripts are powerful for creating things that would take too long to do it manually (eg. animations, or things like this [link] where there are hundreds of transforms). But generally scripts are just used as a crutch, hindering creativity.

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lyc In reply to JoelFaber [2007-09-08 20:53:56 +0000 UTC]

hehe, what a funny fractal

regarding the densities/weights/probabilities, i imagine that if you could control the combination some neat fx could result. for example, to get the xform you apply f_{1,2,3,4} in sequence (maths notation f_4 o f_3 o f_2 o f_1), but you could interpret this as 4 vectors, <1,0,0,0> * f_4, then <0,1,0,0> * f_3, etc. keeping those weights normalised to eliminate gain might be an interesting avenue of exploration for a new xform, however it'd need a lot of unintuitive user input... this is where i always went mad with my programs: since i had no gui to tweak such variables i just went completely overboard with the generalisations and dimensions, lit up a joint and sat exploring randomised parameters for hours on end

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Nestalgica [2007-09-04 20:47:14 +0000 UTC]

Now this looks fun Great flame, too -- nice and dark.

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Wick5ter [2007-09-04 16:01:17 +0000 UTC]

lovely

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Ab1lity [2007-09-04 13:50:42 +0000 UTC]

OMG

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ChaosKatie [2007-09-04 01:45:08 +0000 UTC]

Fish eggs!! Really pretty fish eggs!

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Jimpan1973 [2007-09-03 21:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Really beautiful!!!

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JoelFaber In reply to Jimpan1973 [2007-09-07 05:31:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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neoMWH [2007-09-03 21:22:54 +0000 UTC]

Awsome piece can't wait to play with these!

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JoelFaber In reply to neoMWH [2007-09-07 05:31:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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RetteMichBabe [2007-09-03 21:19:52 +0000 UTC]

Omg.. it looks like fish embryo! awesome!

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Platinus [2007-09-03 21:17:55 +0000 UTC]

This variation is already opening alot of doors...and it's not even available yet!
Kudos!

Very lovely, love the coloring and the luster.
Great job!

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JoelFaber In reply to Platinus [2007-09-07 05:31:09 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I think it is a very good variation. It's right at the top with Julian!

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Platinus In reply to JoelFaber [2007-09-07 06:03:21 +0000 UTC]

And when are we getting it?

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