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I guess its true when FDR died the Presidency died with him
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My favorite part about this comic is how the thumbnail leaves out the punchline.
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At least you have the Atlantic Ocean as a moat between you and this madness.
Some of us are stuck with front row seats in the splash zone of this shitshow.
Then again you guys are dealing with Brexit. Would rank that as better or worse than President Cheese Doodle?
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With luck, Trump will be gone in 2020. If Brexit goes through, we're f**ked for a generation.
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Luckily, a dozen republicans had the balls to put their foot down and sided with the democrats in the senate to block Trump's move for the wall. If they'd let him use emergency powers to do that, it would've been a dangerous precedent for all kinds of potential bullshit.
As for whether he'll be gone in 2020, I don't honestly know. His base supports him blindly like a bunch of zealous fanatics and those red congressmen that jump on command for him still let him get away with everything. I hope the blue shift in the house of reps leads to a blue wave in 2020, but only time will tell.
For now we just have to batten down the hatches and keep enduring the shitstorm that is Hurricane Trump.
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You guys are clueless...
Reality is going to hit hard on you guys again in 2020
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Do you understand that Trump isn't a Republican? He's a Plutocrat. Someone who controls things using money.
Republican values are working hard and earning what you have.
He didn't earn anything. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has zero empathy for the working class. He spent more than thirty years
stepping on working class people to achieve his goals.
Don't believe me? Believe his legal history. He's had more than 3000 lawsuits filed against him for not paying the people he hired to work for him. And when they tried to get that money in court, he just used loopholes and tied them down in litigation until they gave up or went bankrupt trying to fight him. Not paying people for services rendered is called "Theft of Services" and it's a crime. He's been doing it for more than three decades and he should've been in jail for it a long, long time ago. His cell could be right next to Bernie Madoff's.
Trump is not one of us. He doesn't care about us and he never will. We're just the stones he steps on to get what he wants.
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You are fundamentally nuts.
Do you understand that any Republican can be considered a Plutocrat?
You are a textbook propaganda machine.
Meanwhile, consider this is happening in the UK;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQmkko…
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The difference between facts and propaganda is that one is backed up from a credible source, and the other is just hot air.
Fact - Trump has a very extensive history of hiring people and then refusing to pay them; stealing the services they provide.
Fact - Plutocrats control the system with money so they can use it to make more money which is of no benefit to, and sometimes hurts, middle class people.
Fact - Those Plutocratic Republicans have done more for their corporate sponsors, rich buddies, and themselves in the form of tax breaks than they have ever done for the working class people that actually put them in office.
Fact - Trump admitted to lying about a campaign promise (Drain the Swamp) on camera, at a rally and his base STILL cheered for him.
Considering all these facts, working class supporters of the current Trump centric republican regime must either be masochists who like being abused and lied to, or they've just decided "F**K IT!" and just want to ride the bomb all the way to the ground.
And incidentally, simply accusing me of being nuts and a propaganda machine without refuting anything I've said tells me you don't actually have an argument to counter with.
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You have no self-awareness. You just don't see the mindless pattern you are in.
I don't need to disprove slander from your previous comment, and your "facts" here are just A LITTLE bias from the whole truth.
Funny you don't want to comment on the link I gave you as well, so it doesn't change my opinion of your fundamental mentality.
You live in a bubble. An echo chamber. And you are going to still be scratching your head come 2020 election aftermath.
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That video has no relevance to the topic at hand. There are countries where people are MURDERED by their government for being different or trying to speak out. So the issues they're having are really not that distressing. You want to impress me with a human rights issue? Talk about North Korea where the citizens are treated like prisoners or Saudi Arabia where the prince orders the assassination of anyone that criticizes him or how about the southern border of the good old USA where Mexican families are being torn apart and children traumatized just to discourage border crossing. They are literally employing TERRORIST tactics against people trying to escape from horrible situations in Mexico.
I'm examining the ACTIONS of the people running this country and then decide what I think of them. And their ACTIONS tell me they don't care about the well being of anyone who isn't at least a millionaire in the country or outside of it.
You sir, accuse me of ignorance and yet you sound like a new age cultist parroting euphemisms and propaganda.
It is obvious to anyone from the dismissive, conceited nature of your comments that you have chosen to ignore what is plain to see and substitute it with your own version of reality. So enjoy happily living in the bubble you obviously created for yourself, as your user icon so ironically displays.
So long bubble boy, don't bother replying because I'm going just going to ignore you, as you are obviously a lost cause and not worth wasting the time or effort on any longer.
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I am not actually sure whom to support anymore. As most mentioned with the last election, it was a game of least favorites.
Like picking off brand sodas or watered down wines.
All the parties at this point kind of suck.
. . .
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Well, anything would have been a better choice than the reincarnation of King Henry VIII Tudor that we're stuck with now.
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You are nuts. Hopelessly insane.
Trump 2020
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Well that's what we are turning into. My home state: Minnesota just pushed through a law that will allow illegal immigrants to get legal drivers licenses: which just short of makes them legal citizens in our state. www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2526… - one more step towards turning America into the worlds biggest FAILED communist welfare state.
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Yeah, you know how things will always get worse. Like that law, that was in place in Minnesota up until 2003, when it was taken away to prevent terrorism. Because you know how Minnesota used to be a communist welfare state in the past, and everything was better back then.
Seriously though. Communist welfare state? Do you really believe that, or are you just using communism as a scare to show your opposition towards democrats? Because you should know that to the rest of the world, the democrats in the US is equivalent to another country conservative party, and the far left over there, would be centrists. And on the subject of welfare. Why the hell do you pay taxes if you don't get any benefits from doing so?
Edit: It is amazing what comes to light, when you look into the examples presented to smear something. I thank you for making it easy to look up today. Not many are so considerate with their examples. And I honestly mean that. Here is what I found. www.startribune.com/push-begin…
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I am going to assume you don't and never have lived here so here's a point of fact: Minnesota used to have the easiest to get into state welfare system in the US. During the late 80s/early 90s judges in both Chicago and Los Angeles were sending criminals to Minnesota: with paid bus fairs; rather then send them to overcrowded prisons. They picked MY state because we had the most advantageous state welfare system where all you really had to prove was that you were breathing and didn't have a lot of assets. Every other state you have to prove residency for a substantial period AND citizenship but those weren't so here until we found out that other states were sending their criminals here to get rid of them. (I just checked your homepage that says you are from Norway - which suggests that you know little to nothing about what it's like over here. From what I understand you should be studying how your EU is screwing you over by forcing you to accept "refugee" criminals than worrying about American Politics - you've got your own problems to resolve, when you figure those out THEN come tell me how we should run MY country.)
I am not sure what law you are talking about that was revoked in 2003 because I don't pay attention to a lot of the minutia of politics. I only really care about the big picture. My personal problems are too big for me to waste a lot of time on anything else. Especially politics that are based on a complete lack of understanding of human psychology.
Maybe in your fantasies the American Democrats are conservatives. Over here they have worked to systematically ignore and destroy the Constitution which is the BASIS of our government. Republicans on the other hand have pretty much consistently supported the "Smaller Government is Better" philosophy of the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution. Over here it's the Democrats who start government agencies that have no real oversight that make it nearly impossible for American Corporations to make money - and making money is why they exist - while simultaneously trying to foist tax increases off on them. Here's a bit of an FYI for you: when the government levies a tax against a corporation the corporation passes the tax on to us by raising the prices of their products and services to cover the tax - they don't actually pay any taxes - We The People do. But it makes the Democrats look good to claim they are taking money from the rich to give it to the poor. Except they aren't. They are taking money from the poor - US - and giving it to themselves to feed government agencies that have mostly destroyed their reason for existing.
I am also going to note that thanks to the Democrats the US dropped from being the manufacturing capital of the world after World War 2 to importing almost everything. We produce almost nothing ourselves anymore which means that billions of jobs have been lost and the people who would be working those jobs are instead working low-paying jobs like Fast Food because that's all they can get. Jobs that used to be part-time jobs for our kids so they could earn fun-money are now becoming the core jobs of survival for adults. That wasn't Republican doing it was Democratic "Big Government" doing with too many overblown government "agencies" who have to witch-hunt corporations for non-existent violations in order to prove that they are still valid. I recognize that these watch-dog agencies were and are needed but they need to be reduced by half at least: both to save on the tax money they are guzzling and to allow American Manufacturing a chance to recover.
I am not aware of a single country in the world that does not have immigration laws to govern who can immigrate to and from their country: we have them too and have had for some time. But letting ANYONE come across the Mexican border illegally and then effectively just declaring them citizens because they are here isn't right. Arizona is the only state in the country that follows Federal Laws (which means our Central Government created them) that state that illegal immigrants are to be arrested and deported back to their origination country. Every other state and the Federal Government as well has followed a Democratic doctrine of ignoring the illegals and even rewarding them with welfare and IDs that let them obfuscate the fact that they are illegals.
I am going to stop my tirade here before I start getting more repetitive. I'll close by suggesting that people read up on this guy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_… - his Marxist philosophies fit a lot of the troubles both the US and the EU have been seeing lately.
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Holy hell. That is a lot of statements that contradicts my entire view of America. Which is why I'll need you to back the statements up with references and proof that what you are saying is correct, and not, as I am led to believe, the result of being quite misinformed. From the top of my head, I can point out that reports have it that the US produces 50% more now than during the 80's, though with 1/3 the work force due to automation. And as far as I am aware, the birther movement only applied to the children of undocumented immigrants that have been born in the US. But as I said, I'll need references to actually take you seriously here. You might also find that some beliefs stem from misunderstandings, rather than actualities.
As for the 2003 law that was taken away, that was a reference to your original post. About allowing undocumented immigrants to take a drivers license in Minnesota. It's in the article I posted for you. Which was Minnesotan law, up until 2003, when it was put in place so that law abiding terrorists wouldn't be using cars (though the reasoning is probably a bit more sound than that. As the idea that it would actually do something is as silly as renaming french fries as freedom fries.) Anyway. The point is, I see there is a lot of anger, but as have been proven again and again in these comment sections, is that nothing of what is claimed can actually be taken seriously without proper, solid references. And I am quite done searching up and checking manic claims from people that are venting talking points in frustration.
As for our problems here in Europe. As far as I am aware, it is more of a cultural outlook problem than anything else. We're not suffering from taking refugees in.
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I understand your reluctance to take my word for things without some sort of verification (I don't generally simply believe everything people I don't know say either) but I wouldn't really be able to back it up with any information you can't find yourself if you do some Google searches. I may have been exaggerating a small amount but I can verify from personal experiences that most of the manufacturing that used to be done in my state is gone, and large numbers of buildings that were used for storage of manufactured goods awaiting transport are empty except for homeless squatters. I have worked for a lot of temporary employment agencies in the past and most of the manufacturing companies I used to work for seasonally are gone. The bit about the LA and Chicago criminals wasn't widely publicized which makes it difficult to prove: the Judges didn't want US to know what they were doing. But through the 80s and 90s two rival criminal gangs: Crips and Bloods: saw a massive influx into Minnesota because LA and Chicago prisons were already filled beyond capacity with them and the city judges decided to get rid of them by sending them here. Saint Paul (the state capital) and Minneapolis lie on opposite sides of the Mississippi River and are generally known as the "Twin Cities." Crime rates in both cities skyrocketed starting in the 80s with the two gangs having shootouts in the neighborhoods where one gang or the other was dominant. I'll also point out that we MIGHT be producing a little more now than in the 80s, but what we were producing in the 80s is nothing compared to what we were producing in the 50s and that manufacturing been decreasing not increasing over the last decades. "Democrats" have been pushing to switch us from a manufacturing economy to a "service" economy for the last several decades as more and more manufacturing companies have been leaving the US - over-regulation and high taxes are eating into their profits so they are moving to countries where they can avoid these problems. www.securitysales.com/business… - this is pertinent because it forms part of the basis of my observations. ITI was the company I last worked for - for ten years - turned out the merger with SLC was a scam on their side: they obfuscated the fact that they were on the edge of bankruptcy and hoping the merger would stave it off. In the end General Electric moved in and bought the ITI part of the company: then laid our entire production crew off so they could move the manufacturing: they intended to try Mexico but they couldn't find workers: even supervisors: who would stay on - rumors were that their back-up plan was to move to Asia instead. www.genewsroom.com/press-relea… What happened to the company I worked for is indicative of what has been happening to American Manufacturing over-all. Most so-called "American Manufacturing" involves putting "made in America" decals on items that were shipped over from Asia or other countries. I did temporary work doing that too. So whether you believe me or not I am talking from personal experience not just spouting rhetoric. I've worked for manufacturing plants that no longer exist, I've visited "warehouses" that are being inhabited by homeless friends, when I can afford to I stop at Fast Food shops that were my first jobs as a young adult where most of my not-management coworkers where 15-17 and now the employees are often older than the managers. The Democrats are pushing to increase the wages of these "service industry" jobs up to living wages because they are becoming the core of our economy. The Democrats want more tax money to fund more social welfare programs when our last President left us with a debt estimated between $20 and $70 trillion. www.google.com/search?client=f… -please note especially that the debt in 2016 when our current president took over was estimated at nearly $20 trillion by several of these articles and if you check our current debt Democrats are trying to claim Trump is responsible for a $22 trillion debt. But in fact he's been being stymied by our Professional Politicians on both sides from enacting plans to reduce the government and reduce spending while those same Professional Politicians pass bills allowing them to spend more money on pet projects that are just increasing the debt to nobody's benefit but theirs.
As far as I can tell the link you sent me was the same information my first post linked to: I just didn't know where my friend found it so I linked to his Facebook page where he posted it. The law struck down in 2003 was a bit slow in the coming considering that some of the suicide pilots from the 9/11/2001 attacks were using Minnesota Drivers Licenses to qualify for piloting training here in the US. This new law would open us to more of that sort of problem as we use the Drivers License as the most often carried proof of citizenship: but if we are going to hand them out to anybody who happens to make it into the US illegally then they become useless for that. American Citizens will be forced to get passports just so we can prove we are American Citizens inside our own country: and most of us can't afford them as they cost $hundreds.
"Cultural Outlook" is what you call it when religious fanatic refugees determine that their religious laws outweigh your national laws? And EU spokesmen insist on letting them get away with breaking your National Laws? IMHO that's an odd way of looking at it. What if I come visiting and decide that MY "Cultural Outlook" allows/requires me to ignore your National Laws - do I get a "get out of jail free" card too? If you are going to allow immigrants to ignore your National Laws then why should anyone follow them? Why have any National Laws at all? At the very least learn their religious laws and then use them against them.
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I am sorry to hear about your situation, but I have to be honest. What you have presented me with isn't so much an argument as to how regulations have ruined your home, but rather that you are in dire need of having regulations put in place.
From my point of view, based only on your words here, it seems as if you have, or rather the economical model have been switched on it's head. Where you, the worker, have become the company, selling your services to the companies, whom have become the consumer. I have to say, that is a bit messed up. It is certainly not a healthy, capitalist system. A healthy capitalist system is one where companies compete to provide the best quality service for the best price. Which should lead to innovation and adaptation, so to boost progress. What you describe though, is regression.
Now, I'm not going to sit here and say this happens because of that, and tell you how it is, because I say it is so. That would be silly. But I will try to give you my take on the situation. As you said, there are cases of products coming in from abroad, and a 'made in America' label is put on the product to sell it, yes? From my point of view, that is a producer lying about their product, which if it isn't already, should be regulated as illegal. Because that, is fraud. Consumer protection laws are suppose to regulate this sort of behavior, as companies should compete with other companies to be allowed to sell their product in various states. I can tell you right now, if such was found to be sold here. Where a product was mislabeled intentionally to mislead consumers, that company would face a hefty fine and probably lose all credibility as a legitimate business.
Additionally, there should be regulations in place to insure that a market is healthy and competitive, to make sure that companies doesn't merge so much that only a few, large players are left. Because that isn't very competitive, and hurts the consumer. This might sound extreme, but it would, as it have here, help smaller businesses from being out priced by larger entities that can afford to either out price, buy out their competition to create a situation where they hold near monopoly and thus doesn't need to provide 'good' service, but simply 'enough' service.
Next, taxes. A company should pay taxes if they wish to operate in an area that belongs to a nation. Especially to a nation like the USA, which lets not forget, is the biggest consumer market (or second biggest, I forget which) in the world. If they want to extract resources, if they want to produce, or sell things in the USA, they should pay to do so. And they would. Because there is no way that a company that creates anything, would not pay to get access to the US market. And don't take this as criticism of your view of the situation, the US have a very low tax rate, and that is especially for companies and those that have large wealth. But companies, aka the production lobby in the USA, are still very interested in updating the infrastructure in the country. Which finds funding through taxes.
My point is, with regulations, capitalism works wonders. But when the bottom line is the only thing that matters, and no other considerations is taken, because they don't need to be, that leads to regression. Is it cheaper to produce a product in Asia? Yes. Very much so. But produce in America, and you avoid a lot of transportation, get easier access to the USA consumer base, and you can (if regulated correctly) insure that the product is of sound quality. Companies are not leaving because of regulation and taxes. They are leaving because it is cheaper, and they can.
Now, Democrats. You will have to explain this to me, as some of the links you gave me explained very little, and some were blocked unless I allowed the site to sell information to 3rd party companies, and I don't like that. How would democrats make America more based around service companies in front of production companies exactly? Again, the market in the US is not very regulated, and that is as much influence as I can see politics can have upon what companies do and doesn't do. If it is in reference to the coal industry, then I think you will find that companies that deal with natural resources that is also a health hazard and causes pollution won't actually do much better without regulations, except perhaps within the US itself. And in all honesty, they should not be given leeway, as again, that should just give access to other companies that might provide the service required, within the boundaries of the regulations that should be in place to protect both customers and workers. If it is not about the coal and similar industries, that doesn't want regulations because of democrat policies, then I don't really understand how the democratic party is responsible any more than the republican party with how the situation is over there.
The Drivers license: I would assume that there is some sort of test involved in the process of getting your license to drive. As well as classes, ect, ect. But I can understand your views on the situation. But my point was, the law that the democrats are calling for isn't new. It is old. Very old at this point. And terrorists and criminals are bad, no matter if they are undocumented immigrants or true citizen of any given country. And if we are to be realistic about it, then terrorists would most likely try to be as law abiding as possible, up until they don't need to be anymore.
With your last point, I don't know if you are trying to make fun of me, or if you are really misunderstanding me. By our cultural outlook, I mean, that we have to look past the fact that people are coming into our countries and the problems that might arise from that. But that we need to look at 'WHY' they are coming to us, and if we are to stop that from happening, then surely the cause is more important than the symptom. Yes, Europe have a lot of refugees now. Why? War. For that to end, therefor, war needs to stop where they are coming from. That is the only way to actually deal with the problem in a realistic way.
Example. Let's say that the super volcano in Yellowstone National Park erupted. Plunging a lot of the USA into utter chaos. A national tragedy of unimaginable proportions, and you and everyone else was forced to flee or suffocate under the smog and lung destroying ash. And because there are so many of you, no nation would take you in. No shelter anywhere, and you were forced to return to what shelter you could find within the USA. Some aid would probably come through, but surely not enough, as there are so many of you that needs help. Canada wouldn't take you. They have too many problems to deal with because of the volcano on their own. Possibly in the same situation as you. Mexico don't have the resources, and those that does get over their border find themselves at the mercy of the cartels. Europe might take some, but there are not enough boats for people to cross, and unimaginable as it may seem, some try to cross the Atlantic on their own. An almost impossible task in a small vessel. Even worse, now Europe have to close the borders, as there are too many of you to help.
Sounds grim, right? I imagine a lot of refugees feel that way.
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My personal situation isn't what's important: what's important is that it's not a rare thing here. It's far more common over here than you may believe. What I explained to you were several case-in-points of why things here are no-where near what you believe. American Democrats have pushed for more and more government regulations that give them control over corporations: read up on OSHA as an example: it's original purpose was to protect workers from being exposed to hazardous environments in the workplace: that's fine and dandy and I recognize the need for that sort of over-watch: but OSHA has become so bloated that they have to invent false breaks in the regulations in order to keep their funding so they are deliberately making it harder for legitimate manufacturing corporations to thrive here. That is just the tip of the iceberg of US Government Agencies that are suffering from the corruption of being run by fallible human beings that are desperate to keep jobs that are mostly unneeded at the numbers that they currently exist.
I am not sure what you are talking about with the three links I provided: two of them were news site links that do not require any such thing; the third link was to a Google search page. None of those require me to do anything of the sort that you are claiming.
Europe has seemingly always thrived best when it's people are under the thumb of a ruling class, American's always thrive best when we aren't. American Democrats push for more Professional Politicians as our ruling class and American Republicans generally believe in less government/more freedom. That's an oversimplification of the situation but it's an accurate one.
I have to admit my own suspicions: that you insist that I do all the work of proving my point while refusing to do the same suggests that you aren't really interested in any viewpoint/opinion other than your own. I clearly am wasting my time trying to convince you, and I don't really care enough to read through this massive "story" of yours to get your point. Nor is the fact that you are seemingly refusing to recognize my point making me inclined to have any interest about yours. Clearly our opinions differ, I am not going to change yours and you aren't going to change mine. Lets just call it a "Cultural Outlook" thing and just move on with our lives.
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The thing is, you are not proving your point at all. You are telling me a lot of things without any backing and without any explanation as to how or why. And yes our views differ, that is why we are talking. But going out of your way to accuse me of not wanting to see your viewpoint when that is exactly what you are doing is just being hypocritical. Then you try to insult me for being in Europe, and thriving under the oppressive rule of others, as apart from yourself that thrive in the 'free' America. . . while saying that companies should be free to do whatever they like, and to hell with everything else. That is creating a ruling class for yourself, while giving up your own rights. No, you are right, we probably won't agree on anything, but I highly recommend you actually look into what you are actually saying. Because you are coming across as someone that is so far into an idea, that you have created a fictional impression that everything that those you see as the 'enemy' support is bad. Again, I am NOT saying that you are that way, but it IS how you are coming across.
But I will leave it by saying that, yes I did read what you said. I did try to look up some of your claims, but no. I found very little information that I found all that believable.
PS: I'm assuming that I got the messages about information gathering because I am in Europe. Different laws in regard to internet providers and such. Net Neutrality and all that jazz, ect, ect. But that is just me guessing as to the reason why. Ted talk by a republican, which is good. Try it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB81IB…
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In your eyes I'm not proving my point because you are refusing to accept what I'm saying. I at least tried to provide some sort of proof, you provided nothing but a long-winded diatribe that sounds too much like the wind-bag Communist Socialist Democrats we have over here trying to destroy our economy and our freedom with too many government regulations and laws.
www.constitution.org/fed/feder… read this: it will explain a lot of where my views are coming from.
And I suppose your guess about why the links I sent wanted weird information from you might be true.
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The reason it gets long winded, is because there is a lot to say. But, let us try to start again and keep it a bit simpler, if you don't mind. Can you present to me some evidence, or sure claim that no other factors than regulations are involved with companies that outsource work or moved away? And if you find them, what regulations that had them move on?
I also went over the link you sent me a few times, and though I can see where your views are coming from, I still have to ask what it is suppose to support in this context. It's about separation of powers in the pre industrial society. Not about regulations during the post industrial age.
And since I did discuss it a bit with a friend from Britain, he found an example that I was not aware of, but illustrates my views in quite simple terms:
'During the industrial revolution in England, companies complained that regulations would hurt business, when child labor laws were introduced.'
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I have already presented evidence, you've refused to accept it - I seemingly cannot even provide you links to Google pages because apparently Google is outlawed in your country and you can't look at it without paying fees or something. That by itself shows me whose country is better in our personal freedoms. And I'm not going to bother with more because IMHO clearly you aren't really interested in anything except for your own viewpoint which I find invalid since you don't live here and there-for have no idea what living conditions are really like here. I see no point to continuing or restarting this conversation because it's a waste of my time and energy, I have better things to do than try to argue with somebody who has proven to me that he/she is closed-minded and not really interested in learning anything different than your false impression of America.
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Showing me national dept accumulated over the past 3 decades isn't evidence. A dept I should add, that does not consist of funds borrowed only from other countries, but also from different US institutions as well. And from reading up on it, I really can't see any implication at all that supports your statement about democrats bringing ruin to the US in that context. From the wikipedia article, which mentions that national dept seem on the surface at least to go hand in hand with war expenses and lower taxation (And lets not forget the economic crash of 2008, when it skyrocketed). Neither are things that Democrats alone are responsible for, or even the driving force of.
My point is, the evidence you have presented are not good enough to support your claim. And if you can't point at exactly what your reasoning for holding your belief, which you have not done, then it is just speculation.
As of now you have claimed:
- That Chicago and Los Angeles are sending prisoners to your state because of the welfare system. (Not explaining if they are released or put in prisons in your state, or evidence of it actually happening.)
- That the EU is forcing refugees upon Norway. (Without reasoning or evidence. Though this is lost on me, as I want to take in more, to take some pressure of other countries. Even though we are not in the Union.)
- That the Democrats have systematically ignored and destroyed the constitution of the US. (Without reasoning or evidence).
- That the Republicans are for 'smaller government is better' philosophy. (Without reasoning or evidence, as things like ICE, Guantanamo Bay, Abortion laws, the Patriot Act, public surveillance, increased military spending, sending troops to the border to deal with asylum seekers (lawful immigrants) and the BDS Law all speaks against this claim).
- That government oversight makes it impossible for corporations to make money (without reasoning or evidence).
- Saying that corporations pushes taxes over on the consumer (without evidence, and with reasoning that in my view, shows need to regulate the business model they are using more than anything else).
- Claiming that additional taxes are given to agencies without reason or use to be. (Without giving examples, or even indicating which agencies you speak of).
- Claiming that USA imports almost everything due to Democrats. (Without reasoning or evidence).
- Claiming that USA produces almost nothing by themselves anymore. (Without reasoning or evidence).
- Claiming that illegal immigrants are entitled to welfare in the USA. (Without reasoning or evidence).
- That the current employment situation for a lot of Americans are due to Democratic policies and government agencies. (Without reasoning or evidence).
And these claims are only from your second post. But do you see why I keep asking? I have looked over your other posts again too, and even though you talk about criminals in your third post, I am still not sure if you mean that they were let loose, or if they got out of jail and just went on going. Point being, there are so many questions that have been raised other than my original one.
How are democrats turning USA into a communist welfare state? And though you might say that some of the claims above supports this, as you can see, none of them are backed up by evidence. And company mergers and national debt does not prove any of them. Except perhaps downsizing the market, which, was what I was trying to explain in my long winded post to you.
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I like marshmallows in my hot cocoa.
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I really hope you mean I am getting trolled, and not dealing with a complete and utter moron.
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Takes one to know one?
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Well I'm tired of it. You demand proof, then deny that anything I show you proves anything; meanwhile when I ask for proof of your POV you hide behind a wall of gibberish text instead. So I'm done trying to have a meaningful discussion with you; from here on out you are going to get the meaningless drivel that you are spewing. And I will not stop responding with mindless drivel until you go away, so don't go away mad, just go away. Any meaningful discussion between us ended long ago.
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The only question I have seen you pose, was a load of gibberish that I actually gave you an answer on. as for my gibberish, as you call it, is me explaining how regulated capitalism here works in relation to the situations you described. But by all means, if you have actual question, go right ahead, ask.
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I like marshmallows in my hot chocolate.
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Can you try any harder to be unfunny? Goddamn. The left really can't meme. How about you make a comic about U.K's porn-block and that you must pay a license to bypass it. Don't believe it? See for yourself. www.thesun.co.uk/tech/8565486/… and www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-4379… We still get to keep our guns,freedom and especially our porn.
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If you can make a good argument, you don't need to meme.
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A meme is a good argument visualized. This is why the internet uses it as a medium to convey a message. The most popular memes flourish for a good reason. This is why the U.K. is trying to pass Article 11 and 13 to make memes illegal because it is a threat to their retarded ideology. They can't win in an open and fair discussion so now they are trying to change the rules.
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"A meme is a good argument visualized."
Really? Cool. Show me one.
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Trump vs Hillary Election JoJo Meme proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=htt…
Conor McGregor One Piece memeworld.funnyjunk.com/pictur…
Boys These Days memeworld.funnyjunk.com/large/…
I have plenty more.
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You are out of touch, and are an asshole if you start going after Trump supporters.
Here, have one on me, tell me how it speaks to you;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqqwTg…
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yeah... but you also sacrifise your children... so theres that... but i guess you only care about your porn.
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There's a 'c' in sacrifice.
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