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Joshels In reply to Chris000 [2018-07-27 11:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Combat Sally is becoming a guilty pleasure of mine, she's just too bad-ass.
Since giving "Attack on Titan" a watch, I liked the esthetic of the dual scabbards on either side of the hips, so I did something similar with a sword and gun holster opposite of each other. The firearm on her right thigh is configured as a SMG when collapsed to be holstered or first drawn, but can be extended out and deployed into a battle rifle instead. When in a frantic CQC situation though, Sal could use the SMG with the one hand, and swing the sword with the other in an impressive acrobatic display. The idea of including a sword with her came primarily from the importance of the Sword of Acorn in the old Archie comics. In multiple of my concepts for the Sonicverse, that blade contains the power needed to reverse roboticisation, so the Princess keeps it around for when it's needed.

Thank you muchly for the props on the lines. That's an area I try to improve on because I agree, beautiful strong lines with a variety of weights are amazing.

I find that when I plan on digitizing sketches with the tablet and completely coloring them, the phone's camera is hi-def enough to give me an easy and sufficient way of bringing those lines into the software. But yes, normally I would use the flat-bed scanner on my printer to properly scan things, just was too much of a hassle for this impulsive posting of a WIP

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Chris000 In reply to Joshels [2018-07-27 22:00:53 +0000 UTC]

I like the thinking. Though I'm not an anime guy I thought the Attack on Titan designs were kind of neat. I also think it's kind of interesting an unusual how she can use an MSG as a battle rifle as well. it's definitely different too.

As for the sword yeah I remember that from the comics. Are we talking a full cure or a partial one where they can move and think for themselves? I think I went with something similar though I don't know if the condition was reversed. Don't know if it was possible in my work.

That's all good. Your phone seems strong enough where it's possible to get sharp pictures.

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Joshels In reply to Chris000 [2018-08-28 09:42:06 +0000 UTC]

I'm thinking a chaos emerald shard in the hilt allows plunging the sword into an actual roboticizer (mobile or fixed in a facility) to release a wave of energy that can completely reverse the process it had done on organics in a moderate radius (very deus ex machina, but hey, it's a plot device that doesn't have to make scientific sense in a world with "chaos energy"). The sword alone cannot cure Robians, but is pretty vicious at slashing up badniks.
Kinda thought this would result in at least one big climactic mission into a lower district of Robotropolis that contains the highest density of Robians, I'm talking like a hive of ants hibernating/milling around laboring in the underbelly of the city, and the Freedom Fighters have to do it without harming a single one of them; what would otherwise be a pointless suicide mission. However, at the heart of it is the original roboticizer used during the coup. As a team they infiltrate it, until things go sideways within sight of the target, incurring a horde of robo-zombie-esque Robians they have to hold back from tearing them limb from limb. The final leg has to be tackled by Sally tossing the sword across the room to Sonic who has to run and thrash his way to the machine alone.

Otherwise, I figured post-Robotnik the Mobians would discover that roboticizers have to buffer a plan of how they'll convert a subject's biological structures into mechanical ones, and a copy of that schematic is retained buried in the resultant Robian's computer code. Careful reverse engineering makes designing a machine that can use raw elements (carbon, protein, etc) to reconstruct the original lifeform according to that blueprint. However, any mechanical damage or alterations (like the ones Rotor did for Bunnie's limbs) that won't match with that original conversion plan will render it impossible to perform a complete reversion. So poor Buns gets doomed to stay a Rab-bot unless they find some other chaos energy linked method to cure her.

I'm sorry for the wall of unsolicited fanfiction... >~>

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Chris000 In reply to Joshels [2018-08-29 17:35:33 +0000 UTC]

It's nice to see a positive end to the roboticizing process. On my end, there is no cure to the process, so you can only go half-way, and some people end up enjoying it if they consent. 

Do you play by the comic's rules when it comes to roboticizing? I think if I remember correctly a Mobian becomes more or less brainwashed no questions asked, and I think Humans or Overlanders had a chance to retain personality afterwards. I think If I remember correctly that was how it worked. I think roboticizing at a touch was also a nice twist, and would be a bit of a curve ball Robotnik could throw at the characters. I always did think the sword itself was an odd way to reverse the process, but what are you going to do; it's a comic about talking animals. 

I work that way as well, and it makes sense I suppose that the machine is smart enough to plan what changes and when. It's not an easy process to essentially transform the body from an organic one to a mechanical one. I've entertained partial transformations, and full transformations, but part of me wonders if there's still some grey matter left over. Going into some harder sci-fi now, but I wonder if the machine has a plan to keep the subject alive or can transform certain parts to avoid the subject expiring before the end. It obviously works because there's still personality in there. 

Now Bunnie is interesting. There's two solutions for her I've come across. The first is cloning part of her body and then performing surgery to take the limbs off, which may or may not go well depending on how invasive the roboticization is (which I may now explore now that I think about it), or just embracing it. I think Bunnie went to Human manufacturers in my work and just said 'hook me up, sugah', and just swapped 'brand loyalty' shall we say. 

Don't worry about fan fiction, I appreciate someone's views on a story, especially if they expand on a world in an interesting way. 

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Joshels In reply to Chris000 [2018-08-31 09:55:44 +0000 UTC]

I figure the roboticization process is pretty much exactly by Sir Charles's design, which would preserve the subject's consciousness and memories perfectly over into the robotic form, regardless of species (that is, if it was a full body transformation of course. Charles originally meant this for medical application so I assume it'd also have the ability to do only selective roboticizing, in which there'd be no issue with the subject's mind as they stayed organic). Robotnik however adds a simplistic AI that hijacks the subject's robotic body, leaving the original host completely free of being brain-washed or destroyed, but fully suppressed and unable to control their own body. At certain times when the host becomes particularly desperate they can momentarily influence actions by brute force, but don't ultimately have the strength to completely overpower or fool the onboard AI unless something shorts it out or otherwise disables it.

I was thinking I'd pass on the roboticizing on touch, as sinister a power as this is for Robotnik to have, because I kinda focus on roboticization being a detailed mechanical process of scanning and converting biological matter to a robotic equivalent directly that requires equipment. Although that does give me an idea, maybe if/when Robotnik himself takes full Robotic form he'll gain the ability to dispense nano-bots that work together to real-time analyze and convert organic material to robotic components as they move along the surface of a lifeform. That way it's like he touches somebody and they have to watch in horror as they get gradually roboticized, spreading out from where he touched them. I like it! XD

As for your "harder sci-fi" musing with the keeping alive while transforming them, I imagine it a lot like the paradox given with Star Trek transporter technology. This is where the transportee is analyzed, broken down at a cellular level, stored in a digital buffer, and then reassembled at the target location according to that pattern. Seems like a convenient way of travel, however, the grim reality of the situation is that the person being transported is actually killed, then a copy of them is constructed elsewhere in their image to continue on living. Same with roboticization, I would say the subject is clinically terminated when their brain is converted, but then they're digitally reconstructed and reactivated with exactly the same consciousness they had at the point of death. This would lead to the mental trauma described in Ghost in the Shell, where even when their biological bodies are restored the former Robian might not ever fully come to terms with the fact that they in fact died, and aren't actually their original selves anymore but a recreation or echo of themselves. A physical reminder of this I thought of before would be that when doing that initial scan, the roboticizer doesn't take much detail about minor cosmetic anomalies, as it's originally only meant to facilitate a conversion of the bodily structures and not really it's appearance. So a restored organic body from the reversed digital blueprint would often be lacking things such as birth marks, scars, tattoos, or perhaps even some occasional miscoloring of hair and eyes.

I find roboticization a fascinating and terrifying concept

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Joshels In reply to zeiram0034 [2018-03-03 21:29:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks dude! I think that's been one of the primary appealing qualities Sally has had to fans is that she can be intimidating as fierce, not a princess cooped up in a castle. I think that may be a little of what turned me off on her Archie redesign, less angular and strong, more rounded and soft looking.
Yup, once again was trying to do a bigger cast pic, but I'm hating erasing and re-sketching the other characters right now because they don't look half as polished as her, so I think I need to just finalize this as you said and work on them separate so I can do a cast shot another day.

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