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HereticalRosePetal [2018-09-22 21:31:02 +0000 UTC]
I see my favorite dino in the background. Yay.
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Taliesaurus [2018-08-01 20:05:11 +0000 UTC]
and, MerkavaDragunov I ONLY meant it reminded me of a POSSIBILITY of a fallen kingdom aftermath.
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MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-01 12:19:57 +0000 UTC]
i doubt an apocalypse would happen from a few wild animals that (as of JW) unable to breed. since they're all female unless they have the same ability as JP1.
i love the art and the scenario but this is definitely not a JWFK aftermath.
i see it as a standalone story where Dinosaurs already co-existed with people where they're the staple animals as opposed to modern day ones.
this is just another wild animal encounter that could kill them like any apocalyptic setting, the real enemies are the people themselves thanks to a social discord.
the animals are not aggressive monsters, just acting like animals.
that bulky abelisaur, since its so strange looking anatomy wise even for an abelisaur. is probably an old scarred Bull whose lost a territory now roaming the streets for a new turf. after the chaos people had created, he might get a taste of human flesh. Target the children possibly, because as animals they know how to fear humans. but again as animals like cases in several countries close to wildlife, they know children is the easiest of prey, even human children.
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theferretman21 In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-01 18:07:28 +0000 UTC]
Actually, according to Colin Treverrow, there were males so that Jurassic World's dinosaurs could be bred like zoo animals.
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BrowncoatMando In reply to theferretman21 [2020-04-26 21:21:58 +0000 UTC]
that's a TERRIBLE idea.
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theferretman21 In reply to BrowncoatMando [2020-04-26 21:33:59 +0000 UTC]
Why though? Less expensive than cloning, you can forcefully seperate them when necessary, not really much if a downside I can see
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-02 00:59:28 +0000 UTC]
ok...
but he never specify did he?
because some of the animals are so little in quantity they can never breed at all.
Rexy being the only Tyrannosaur
Blue being the only JP raptor
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theferretman21 In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-02 14:03:25 +0000 UTC]
Alright, I was just assuming he meant dinosaurs they actually wanted to breed and weren't, you know, deadliest things ever.
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theferretman21 In reply to Taliesaurus [2018-08-02 19:56:36 +0000 UTC]
Okay, why is thus necessary?
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Taliesaurus In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-02 19:58:47 +0000 UTC]
simply agreeing with you.
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-02 14:36:18 +0000 UTC]
also compared what Talie would suggest
inbreeding is very prominent here. unless its possible for them to be genetically modified for a healthy juvenile.
one more thing did not consider is that for it to be mass produced in other countries the facilities must be there first. otherwise they resort to normal breeding with many generations getting inbred. unless they're able to do differentiate into its own species like Trey's video.
also they need their required facilities otherwise they will resort to eating the wildlife.
which i'm not sure unless they're the same ones that those JW animals have been given to eat.
this can result in a lot of sickness.
also in more tropical area's mosquito's are still a thing and JW animals are no exception to them. meaning they could get sick by them.
overall, too little in number for it too fully take over even in the long run.
for it took over they must be at a mass number akin to ecologies of any time.
thousands even millions. which what the image the artist make here suggest. thousands or millions of the beasts were created instead of tens or fives.
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Taliesaurus In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-02 19:34:54 +0000 UTC]
You have made a fairly impressive statement but...
Look, I don't want an argument but I just feel you missed a few things...
Try to be gracious, please...
1- JW acknowledged that there were sick dinosaurs.
(there were over 30 veterinarians working on the island, supplying the dinosaurs with special vaccines.)
1.1- plus a good chunk of the ones that were "saved" grew up in the wild, so it's safe to say their immune system may have been boosted.
2- it;s very likely that facilities would be built.
after all, the people at the auction were just buying one or two specimens each.
(meaning it';s very likely they already have the technology needed to make more specimens, to up the gene pool)
and besides, the people buying them are RICH after all.
so it;s likely they have the resources necessary.
2.1- Plus it's very likely that they can increase genetic diversity through genetic modifications (even if it's just cosmetic genes like what blue and her siblings got)
3- it's very likely the rich folks mass producing them would feed them with whatever they find (local wildlife, cattle, rats, humans etc )
4- addressing trey for a moment, whilst there might be the problem of inbreeding, isn't as big a problem for animals that have multiple clutches of offspring.
if we are to say that Compies have a breeding rate similar to rats, then it's best to assume that:
one pair of Compsognathus could produce a MAXIMUM of 15,000 descendants in a year (if left unattended)
heck, all humans (that came out of Africa) are genetically descended from one VERY small tribe (possibly 10 or 27 or even 39 at most)
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to Taliesaurus [2018-08-03 02:07:52 +0000 UTC]
remember the rule me and set earlier
since apparently is already broken and you do our work for us (by blocking us)
why do it again by replying here?
i do that because you already did our work for the consequences of the rules.
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Taliesaurus In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-03 09:08:23 +0000 UTC]
because despite that, you still make comments trying to correct me.
even though I never intended to provoke an argument.
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to Taliesaurus [2018-08-03 09:25:13 +0000 UTC]
while i never intend on provoking the argument
the rules we're already broken and you did our jobs for us
by blocking us
so yeah, the rules we're already broken by you before.
besides why unblock for this sake?
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Taliesaurus In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-03 09:36:06 +0000 UTC]
well, just don't be a hypocritic...
you made a statement referencing my comment (directly with my name)
and it just made it really difficult to let slide.
and I only unblocked you so that I could just clarifiy things so that this wouldn't end up becoming several comments (indirectly) bashing each other. and here's the thing, I can't reblock you for another 48 hours (trust me I checked)
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to Taliesaurus [2018-08-03 10:22:04 +0000 UTC]
ok then
just so things could not get out of hands
i'll just block you
and sorry for being hypocritical
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theferretman21 In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-02 16:44:41 +0000 UTC]
I'm pretty sure they were always inbreeding because of the small gene pool from the beginning. I was thinking for quite a while that all the animals were to die off.
Yeah, they would need a lot of facilities in other countries, I'm guessing a few would be built, but probably not as many as Talie is suggesting.
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Taliesaurus In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-02 19:23:22 +0000 UTC]
I'm pretty sure they would most definitely be built, after all, most of the people buying the dinosaurs at the auction were RICH folks after all
and also, even with inbreeding involved, that isn't as big a problem as some might think.
if we are to say that Compies have a breeding rate similar to rats, then it's best to assume that:
one pair of compies could produce 15,000 descendants in a year (if left unattended)
heck, all humans (that came out of Africa) are genetically descended from one VERY small tribe (possibly 10 or 27 at most)
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theferretman21 In reply to Taliesaurus [2018-08-02 20:03:17 +0000 UTC]
A. Forgot completely my point.
B. WTF, your last estimate was around 9,000, be consistent!
Wait, what even is your last point?
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Taliesaurus In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-02 20:07:52 +0000 UTC]
a- LOL
b- I was using a MAX estimate there.
c- what do you mean?
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theferretman21 In reply to Taliesaurus [2018-08-02 20:15:03 +0000 UTC]
Explain your last point.
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Taliesaurus In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-03 20:36:56 +0000 UTC]
did that link explain my point?
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Taliesaurus In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-02 20:41:09 +0000 UTC]
well, perhaps this might help
-science.howstuffworks.com/life…
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JoshuaDunlop In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-01 12:58:33 +0000 UTC]
I do love your enthusiasm, but it actually a large Carno. But yes, the story behind it is similar to yours, though with a slight Jurassic park element attached. Its a concept I hope to one day turn into a game
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to JoshuaDunlop [2018-08-01 14:13:59 +0000 UTC]
what JP element? i am intrigued by this.
on the other hand, that carno is very different from the fossil record shows (which is literally a cheetah as an Abelisaurid)
unless you're able to provide some background information. make it sound more natural, Like this is a descendant of a carnotaur where large theropod niche like Tyrannosaur, Megalosaur, or Large Allosaurs are missing. ever since that niche have been cleared by an unknown disaster with the Carnotauruses now living with more Armored prey such as Ankylosaurids like Euplocephalous and Tarchia, it had evolved to fill in the niche to more suite hunting said prey.
here's a new name for the new Carnotaur descendant if you go with my idea, the scientific name is DiabloTaurus roho which means Red Demonic Bull. but its your choice, you may come up a different story and i would love how it would play out.
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JoshuaDunlop In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-01 15:48:03 +0000 UTC]
So the concept I'm working on basically sits in a world where humans have reverse engineered modern-day animals DNA, allowing scientists to revive multiple prehistoric creatures through the traits that have been left dormant in their genes 'www.livescience.com/50886-scie… along with a variety of genetic manipulation. Gene editing quickly became open source and prehistoric creatures were bred for a variety of aspects. Pets, Zoos, Fashion, Food, even War. Many Dinosaurs now came in a variety of shapes and sizes (similar to many breeds of animal today) Some three times their natural size, some dwarfed to be used as pets etc.
Genetic manipulation didn't stop there, however. Humans edited viruses, fungi, bacteria... all leading to the eventual outbreak that devastated the human population. Animals escaped all over the world, polluting the ecosystem and creating a new world where humans fight for survival in the ruins of a crumbling society.
(Copyright)
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to JoshuaDunlop [2018-08-01 15:59:47 +0000 UTC]
great concept
though judging by the time set it was in
the only way to make it that way without breaking someones disbelief of tanks getting shredded
is the creation of actual monsters from the Genetic modification you speak of. Monsters that could very well be in a Resident Evil Video game Franchise or looks straight out of a Fantasy book.
because only creatures from those types of settings can really naturally make a dent or even be powerful enough to fight modern armies.
unless those creatures for war are for countries whose economy is not great or generally lacking in military power. though i do not recommend for the war aspect as its generally very hard without breaking the audiences suspension of disbelief. for the large theropods their best for Construction, Fashion, Prestige, Zoos, like that.
the product that's best would be for war is actually the smaller ones or the venomous ones but they have to be small as well. since you use prehistoric creatures in general instead of only dinosaurs, you have more freedom and better choices for military usage.
but with that it can be safe to say that the carnotaurus in the picture was one bred for Construction, to justify this that carnotaurus breed in the past must be at a low price. since even the bulk of that thing can get shredded by mere grenade launchers.
also be my guest if you want to add accurate dinosaurs though in whatever way with the freedom you have in that concept. because i am sure that Feathered Dromeosaurs/maniraptorians would be Much more fashionable.
overall Great concept
9/10
but the actual story depends on the execution of the narrative.
you also need world-building skills. be-careful of looking so alike any other stories though.
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JoshuaDunlop In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-03 10:30:26 +0000 UTC]
No, I dont like the idea of monsters. If a virus kills off 80% of the world population and human society crumbles, there would be no armies, no hospitals, no defense and if predators higher in the food chain were to escape, humans would be very quickly overrun. You should read a book called 'The world without us', it show how incredibly quickly our society would break down if even 40% of the population were to die. It would be a matter of a few years before the world got to the state it is in the picture. Without humans carefully monitoring everything, things begin to break down.
The large Carno is more than likely from a zoo, but you're correct, the species used for war are more likely to be the smaller, more intelligent carnivores or possibly trained marine reptiles. Due to the concept of being genetic altering, there can be a range of dinosaurs from paleo accurate to reptilian skinned dinos.
Ive only given you a taste really, the world I'm building is rather complex and the story takes from traditional post-apocalyptic concepts but has its own narrative that's wholly unique.
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to JoshuaDunlop [2018-08-03 10:36:04 +0000 UTC]
"No, I dont like the idea of monsters. If a virus kills off 80% of the world population and human society crumbles, there would be no armies, no hospitals, no defense and if predators higher in the food chain were to escape, humans would be very quickly overrun. You should read a book called 'The world without us', it show how incredibly quickly our society would break down if even 40% of the population were to die. It would be a matter of a few years before the world got to the state it is in the picture. Without humans carefully monitoring everything, things begin to break down. "
that's a nice way of getting around the Armies, etc. Rather than Turning animals into Godzilla's or creating your own monsters. you did good, however you do need to explain what happened to the virus and why there are still survivors. like did the Virus get killed off? for example. get ready to answer questions like that for the story.
Sounds neat, try writing it down. create a plan work out the conflict and the resolution. who's the main character. what's their traits? also don't forget character development.
"Ive only given you a taste really, the world I'm building is rather complex and the story takes from traditional post-apocalyptic concepts but has its own narrative that's wholly unique. "
looking forward to it. btw, i am writing my own story as well. take look in my gallery if you like.
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JoshuaDunlop In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-08-06 08:29:34 +0000 UTC]
With most virus's there are a few reasons why it would die out or there would be survivors. With many viruses, there will be naturally immune people, sometimes they might even carry the virus but aren't affected by it. Also some areas of the world will be so isolated, that the virus wouldn't reach those areas. Also, if a virus has no one to spread too, it eventually will die with its host.
I have lol, just not releasing any more of it online as I said.
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MerkavaDragunov In reply to JoshuaDunlop [2018-08-06 08:48:39 +0000 UTC]
ah nice
that's a very nice way of explaining survivors, not to mention give the animals that trait as well.
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Crynosur [2018-03-06 02:24:50 +0000 UTC]
I have an idea very similar to this but it incorporates zombies into the mix. Still working on the elevator pitch so it doesn't sound lame or geeky.
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JoshuaDunlop In reply to Crynosur [2018-03-06 08:36:33 +0000 UTC]
So, dinosaurs and zombies, or zombie dinosaurs?
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Crynosur In reply to JoshuaDunlop [2018-03-07 05:24:41 +0000 UTC]
Boooooth, its an idea I'm playing with that at first there are no zombie dinos but the virus mutates at a rapid rate that it can reanimate dead ones
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MegaSpinosaur [2017-08-28 23:01:49 +0000 UTC]
I can see it now:
"Humanity has suffered for their sins against nature. Their numbers continually decline as dinosaurs, the very animals they sought to control, begin to take back the planet as their own. Cities and landmarks have fallen, modern predators are being outcompeted and ultimately replaced within the food chain by Tyrannosaurus and various other carnivores."
"In this world, there are two choices: You either live to see another day, or you die"
"It's your choice."
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JoshuaDunlop In reply to HUBLERDON [2017-04-03 07:00:55 +0000 UTC]
Its just a personal project, not an actual game
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Taliesaurus In reply to JoshuaDunlop [2017-07-17 18:46:10 +0000 UTC]
I have an project in the works, a bit like this one
Take a look-JURASSIC AFTERMATH (Return of The Dinosaurs)
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Majestic-Colossus [2017-02-20 01:58:34 +0000 UTC]
This is amazing... The horror, the dark, everything. Great work!
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Taliesaurus [2016-12-12 16:15:14 +0000 UTC]
looks like what I expect jurassic world 2 or 3 would be like....
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