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part 1 - [link]part 2 - [link]
part 3 - this one
part three and final of element of generosity, now that the three parts are done i hope it does better than it has so far, anyway, i hope everyone enjoys it!
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Not entirely sure that's how it works, are you sure about this? I am pretty sure I was taught Ms. = Miss (Could be married or unmarried, undisclosed) and Mrs. = Misses (Definitely married) But if you can find a credible source stating otherwise, I'd happily agree with it and change my understanding.
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My goodness I am slow t'respond t'replies. Can you tell that I do not check my inbox very often? π: 0 β©: 2
Anywho, I believe that dictionary.com (which I have quoted in my first response) is a credible enough of a source, and 'tstates thus:
Ms.
β β[miz]
plural Mses. β[miz-uhz]
1. a title of respect prefixed to a woman's name or position: unlike Miss or Mrs., it does not depend upon or indicate her marital status.
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This definition explicitly states that Ms. is unique in comparison with Miss or Mrs when 'tsays "unlike Miss or Mrs.". Also notice that the pronunciation of "Ms.", unlike "Miss", is "miz"? Apparently the second syllable of the plural of "Ms." (Mses.) also contains a zzz sound. I did not know that!
Of course, if you doubt the credibility of dictionary.com, here is a definition by Merriam Webster:
Ms.
noun \Λmiz\
plural Mss. or Mses.
Definition of MS.
βused instead of Miss or Mrs. (as when the marital status of a woman is unknown or irrelevant)
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Again, explicit differentiation between "Ms." and "Miss" in that definition.
Now just t'be extra certain, I've grabbed my physical copy of Collins Canadian English Dictionary, just t'ascertain that the Internet didn't alter this very moment in time t'deceive me as a result of my attempt in differentiating "Ms." t'"Miss", as this book was printed in 2004, which means that 'tcouldn't have been changed since this very moment I searched the other definitions:
Ms [mizz] n title used instead of Miss or Mrs.
Now that definition is rather vague (as all definitions are abridged in this little handbook), therefore I've searched "Miss", just t'add t'the positivity of my argument.
Miss n title of a girl or unmarried woman.
[I would photocopy the pages as a source, but alas, I lack such device].
Well, 'twould appear that my dictionary states that the pronunciation of "Ms." is "mizz", opposed t'the other sources' "miz". I certainly hope that this does not result in a discrepancy. Other than that, 'talmost mirrors the other definitions when the two are used collectively.
Of course, one could argue that someone surreptitiously swapped my book whilst I wasn't looking with a modified copy with nothing but those two words modified, or perhaps the definition of "Ms." and "Miss" had been changed by the general department of English-speakers since 2004. But I'd beg that the odds of that is far too unlikely.
On the other hand, you may possess a loathing hatred (pleonasm used for effect) towards dictionaries in general, believing that they were invented t'deceive you or t'render you distraught (although I'm not saying that this is the case; I am simply trying t'make a point). Therefore I have sought articles explaining the difference between the two.
Miss:
Miss is used as a title, traditionally of respect, for females that are unmarried. It is also used as a generic address for young woman and may be used when the female is unknown in place of her name.
In strict usage as a title the use of Miss indicates that the woman is single.
Ms.:
This title [Ms.] is used to refer to women and does not denote the marital status of the woman that it refers to, unlike Mrs. and Miss .
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I believe I understand one of the key factors of your confusion. This article does imply your "Ms. = Miss (Could be married or unmarried, undisclosed)" when 'tsays "generic address for young woman and may be used when the female is unknown in place of her name". Howe'er, 'tis referring t'informal verbal exchange of information t'be polite, and not in official or formal confrontations. This is justified when 'tsays later on "In strict usage as a title the use of Miss indicates that the woman is single". With this in mind, the nurse in the comic *could* have called Rarity "Miss Rarity", e'en if Rarity was married (not saying that she is, t'clarify), because the nurse is having an informal exchange of information with her.
T'summarise, based on e'ery single source that I've presented t'you (and hopefully at least one of them is credible, just as you've asked), they all state that "Miss" and "Ms." are incongruent with each other, and that the pronunciation of "Ms." is either "miz" or "mizz" (you decide which pronunciation you prefer). "Miss" is not a title used by a woman when she wishes her marital status t'be undisclosedβyou are thinking of when random adults call younger women "Miss ___" t'be polite during informal exchange of information.
Look at what you have done. I've written an entire essay, all because you have stated, "But if you can find a credible source stating otherwise, I'd happily agree with it and change my understanding". But fret not (assuming you care that much about me), I enjoyed writing't, especially since I've learned a thing or two from't.
Also, unlike most individuals who wrote a long comment and calls't an "essay", I believe that my comment truly constitutes as an essay. >.>
Though as an afterthought (And noticing several grammatical mistakes in my own last comment... damn you, rushed comment due to being entirely flabbergasted!) you may want to cut down on your use of conjugated "it"s. T'was a truly spectacular show, but not every t'deserved to be spl't in twain!
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I can't brain right now. I meant to say "it"s and "to"s. Whatever, you will probably expertly dissect my grammar anyhow. I look forward to it, in fact!
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Truly, my facial muscles ached due t'my excessive smiling whilst reading those replies. Ne'er aforetime had anyone flattered me so mercilessly. 
Anywho, if you feel like you must save my comment into your computer, then by all means. For the sake of readability, you can e'en edit out the peculiar contractions that I possess a compulsion of utilising (some have described me as possessing a phobia of the words "to" and "it").
Finally, as flattering as 'tis that you wish t'read a critique by me regarding your occasional grammatical errors and erroneous word usages, I truly am not the kind of individual who would go out of her way t'"expertly dissect [another individual's] grammar". I've attempted't two or three times about half a decade ago, but soon learned that most individuals are not readily receptive t'random bursts of syntax review whilst they are attempting t'establish something entirely unrelated, and are actually quite provocative when being corrected. I only shared my knowledge with you because you asked in your original post.
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Woot. Good to hear! As for my avatar- I just love how "Trixie" that picture is. It embodies everything I love about her. That magnificently mischievous face with the phrase "Umad?" Too perfect. Also, I've been known to incessantly correct others grammar over the internet, and in real life. I just love to do it. Even when it annoys another- maybe it's my form of trolling, but by god I love when someone gives me an annoyed pout on their face for correcting there sentence.
Again, a pleasure conversing with you, truly the best reply-er I've ever met on the internet! Keep doing what you're doing!
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Hehe, thank you very much. 'Twas certainly a pleasure conversing with you as well.
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Like you, I apologize for having a late reply... I, too, check my inbox seldomly. However, I can honestly state that that reply was the most masterfully crafted and altogether astounding reply I have ever received in all of years of being on the internet. You completely bedazzled me with your thoroughness as well as your grammar- and all for the simply point of ascertaining knowledge!
You even drove me to look up a word- pleonasm- that I hadn't seen before. Combine that with all the time and effort you must have expended on this comment- and yes, I do indeed care- without even knowing if I was one of those who 'tl;dr' and this comment deserves to be saved to my computer. And I will, with your permission granted.
Finally, but not with any sense of wanting this to end, I truly, truly admit I was wrong. Though where I live, people never say "Miss" (As in to a small child, not a teacher or other adult figure with some authority) but instead call all teachers of the female sex "Ms. (mis)" or "Mrs. (misuhs)". Still, for the sake of ending this, I admit to see the wrong of my ways; you have truly proved without a shadow of a doubt that I was inherently wrong.
Good day to you sir. I look forward to meeting you, or someone of your vast intellectual abilities, on the computer.
-Sadly the places on the internet I habitually visit tend to have far, far less abilities then a gerbil.
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Miss and Ms. are the same thing, I believe?
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I thought the same. Ms. and Mrs. are Miss and Misses, right? I've never heard of Ms. as Mizz before.
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Ms. is the weird marital status neutral one that you usually only see in letters and other formal writings. It is pronounced Mizz. I personally hate it, especially since I live in East Tennessee where Miss is the only term ever used. For example if Twilight were to get married, in the north they would usually say Mrs. Sparkle, but in the south she would still be Miss Twilight.
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I wouldn't be too hasty. While you are right about it being the marital neutral formal title, I've only ever heard it pronounced 'Miss'. I live in the north, or at least northern USA (Minnesota). However, you are pretty right about the whole 'Mrs.' Thing. It does seem to be more common- though it seems more dependent on whether or not their last name sounds good with it or not. I often call un-married teachers 'Mrs.' _____, most of which who didn't mind at all,and have had several teachers that go strictly by Ms. or Mrs., such as Ms. Dauphinee (Pronounced doff-knee) or Mrs. Morgantini. For reference, what 'North' are you referring to?
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I consider "The South" : TX, AR, KY, WV, VA and all the other states in the corner they border.
Here's some more info:
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It's pronounced Miz, please correct those who think otherwise. I disagree with these links on one ground, which is that Miss is not marital specific. When a person says, "Excuse me, Miss," they are not implying the person is married, but that they are young; contrariwise, if the woman is an elder it is more common to say, "Excuse me, ma'am."
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I've often seen clips of people from the South being called Miss or Mister by which led me to believe thats just a differing part of their culture versus the northern. Dialects, if you will. Such and coupon or 'Q-pon', Coke, Pop, Soda-Pop, bucket, 'buck-it', and so on so forth. As for the 'Miz' being the pronunciation of 'Ms.', While this may be true of other states, I have never heard it from any other Minnesotan for as long as I've lived. Perhaps we're just weird up here, or maybe I just didn't focus too hard, but for as long as I can remember only teachers are given the title Mr., Mrs., or Ms., with that being pronounced Mister, Misses and Miss respectively. Still, it's interesting to know that should I ever visit a school out-of-state, I know to call teachers "Miz" or "ma'am" and childrens 'Miss'.
Speaking of which, if Ms =/= Miss, but instead Miz, then does Mr. =/= Mister? Is it, in fact, Mizter?
Thanks for clearing this up for me, it has definitely been an interesting conversation.
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I bet Rarity gave the orphanage,maybe...16 bits?
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wtf!2 16bit fanz!are you talking Retro or BITS
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That's what dubstep looks like. You watched dubstep.
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wtf.and yea.it was a weird one in fact.
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I never saw Rarity as being that kind of pony. She is far to busy with her cloth designing and hardly gets along with little ponies. She had problems before with getting along with her younger sister, and she refused to foalsit Mr. and Mrs. Cake's foals. She couldn't be seen anywhere near younger ponies, they are "uncouth".
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Hmmmmmm, I'm not sure what I was thinking when I wrote this. It's as if I was a different person. Perhaps my childish side and me wanting to use the word "uncouth". Anyway, I'm at a loss now and not sure what to think of this. I guess right now I am taking what we've seen Rarity do and trying to link it with this. The only connection I see is the act of generosity. However, there is no other connection. I find this to be a very odd thing for Rarity to be doing, it's not her. There is a difference between generosity and kindness. Perhaps you guys need to watch the very first episode of the show again.
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Oh geez, I just re-read this and now I am making no sense at all. I guess the first part of what I said is right, I am at a loss. A bit confused.
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She's very kind-hearted and understands how a little money in the right place can do good. She's generous after all, she's not good being with foals alone she's all too busy, but after her shop is closed for the night I can imagine that she would practice the element she represents. She doesn't hate foals for being childish, she doesn't know how to bring that kind of responsibility on herself when so busy with work. Hence why Rarity did feel super bad and did anything to make it up to Sweetie Belle, being a little "uncouth" was a way to bond with Sweetie Belle, "Like Apple Pie". So might want to think twice on those observations of yours. She's the element of generosity after all. Give the show time, the character's secret lives may start to show.
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I have to say I don't think your example really works. Donating money to an orphanage and reading stories to kids isn't nearly the same as being their caregiver. Rarity maybe OCD about organization and getting dirty but story time is not an activity where you usually get dirty. Rarity would have no problems spending time with children in this situation. it's a relatively calm activity and she isn't doing it alone, the nurses and the rest of the orphanage staff are there.
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Never the less, your story is still very nice. I am still amazed by your style of drawing, I absolutely love it.
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Keep in mind, the lesson of the episode with Sweetie Belle and Rarity- Sisterhooves Social, I beleive- was to make time for your siblings. Rarity had begun to see her sister as more of a always-there nuisance, and not take any time out of her day to spend with her, as that's all she ever wanted to do. When it comes to orphans, I believe Rarity would realise that every moment that they are happy is worth her time to achieve- much as she learned the same for Sweetie Belle.
tl;dr: Orphans aren't the same as sisters; one you've grown up with, the other has never grown up with anybody....
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Ok, the first two replies made me feel stupid. This just makes me feel like an idiot. What the hell was I thinking when I wrote that comment? Why the hell did I post that comment? I swear that was not me that posted that comment, it sure as hell feels that way.
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Sure as hell doesn't follow the quotes I have in my comment signature.
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Don't worry, all of our brains pull a dumb every once in awhile
Not that I think your dumb or anything
Just, you know, we all say some things we don't really mean sometimes o.o
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Ya, but I seam to say and do stupid/embarrassing things too often. Or maybe it just feels that way because every single one stays stuck in my head forever. Painful memories that keep coming back every once in a while. All it takes is a situation that is similar to one of those bad memories and it comes back, or I think for too long and my train of thought leads to a bad memory. Now I have just added another one, man I hate this. I have one going as far back as when I was 7.
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Excellent story and art. Shows what kind of pony Rarity really is.
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... Very nice... Reminds me of Simply Rarity... This isn't quite as good, but seeing as how SR is a rather long one-shot, and this is JUST a three-page comic... This is really, really good! xD Love the art!
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Didn't notice till now, but the moon looks like it did before Night mare moon escaped!
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I really like the style you drew this in! It is very unique. Also I liked the story. Great Job!
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Great twist!!
Part 3 makes all the difference
love it, hope to see the other elements, soon
-the link in part 1 and 2 to this part are false/invalid.
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thats weird they seem to work for me, are you sure? thanks for the comment btw!
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Now they work,
idk, maybe it was just a bug on my explorer
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A beautiful story since chapter one. Must I ask, will you be doing this for the other Elements of Harmony? If this was done with such pure talent, I cannot wait to see the rest.
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Aww, this story is so cute 
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