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So basically we don't have to be Christians because what he did made it ok to do anything as long as we say I'm sorry right before we die? Your god is messed up in the head Β
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I agree! Our God really is "messed up in the head". He has given us so much more than we deserve, and we don't have to do anything to earn it. He sent His Son (who is good) to die for us (who is bad), so yes it doesnt really make sense on a human level. Thanks for commenting
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If you believe in the christianΒ god then yes I guess it does make sense, but for everyone else it doesn't make sense.
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Β Sacrifice will be if you lost your hand to save someone but if you have the ability immediately to re-grow your hand, this wouldn't be a big sacrifice.
Β Jesus died once and he become immortal forever(wtf), people dieΒ every day without going to hell or haven, isn't this enough big sacrifice.
PleaseΒ excuse my English!
Except that^ i can say only, You done a great work.
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I'm 18, and I never knew what it was, so thank you for making this.
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Couldn't god just say "I forgive you"?
So let me get this straight - he sacrificed himself in order to save us from his own wrath?
Sounds to me like he got really hammered when he thought that one up.
A hindu god like Vishnu would just say something like:
"I will not forgive you because you have never done anything which needs forgiving."
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Jesus and God are not the same - so no, he didn't sacrifice himself. Basically, it goes something like this: We are all sinners and we all deserve to go to hell. But God loves us - and so he gave us a way out: Jesus Christ. Jesus paid the price for us through his life and blood. Basically, he took the punishment we deserve. Which is why it's only through him that we can go to heaven - only through him will we find salvation.Β
That's the gist of it anyway, what I took out of reading the bible.
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Jesus, the Holy spirit and the father form the holy trinity i.e. the one true god as they call it.
So in other words they are aspects of one and the same.
And you don't listen do you? I said couldn't god just say "I forgive you?"
You get what I'm saying? Or are you trying to tell me that despite being omnipotent he could not do it that way?
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The trinity is a relationship - and together, they do form one, but all are distinct. It's sort of like how ice, water and steam are all water, but are all different. Which is why it's not exactly correct and may cause confusion if you say that it was God who died on the cross - because God as we know him cannot "die" in that sense. It was Jesus, son of God, who was made to be human to die for humans. All actions performed by any of the trinity are all God's actions, though, so you're correct in that respect.
I do get what you're saying - it's a tricky subject and I wish I were able to explain it better. There's no easy answer, unfortunately. Could God just forgive us? I s'pose the shorthand answer would be yes. But he doesn't, and that has nothing to do with omnipotence. God is just and strives for good, he's a holy judge - he MUST judge sin. Humanity, it turn, chose free will. Which means we can and often do make the wrong choices. We are imperfect, immoral sinners and undeserving of eternal glory. Simply ignoring this and allowing us access to heaven would not be just. Which is why Jesus took our place - through the shedding of his blood, we are given another choice. A trade. That's why you always hear "the path to heaven is through Christ" - because he died for all our sins - took the punishment for them instead so that we might be absolved of our sins.
If that doesn't explain it well enough, I apologize. I'm not a preacher - I've read the bible through twice and still don't understand half of it lol. But that's my best answer. Have a great day!
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Well of course you cannot explain it well enough because your god was created by drunkards from an undeveloped part of the world.
Which is why your god acts like a spoiled brat rather than a god.
Again if you want gods that act like gods, which are omniscient and omnipotent you would have to look at the hindu gods.
There is no such thing as a wrong decision in hinduism or as you like to call it "sin".
Besides the story of the original sin is nothing but a plagiary of the story of Pandora.
Pandora was the first woman too and she was given the so called "Pandoras Jar" (yes jar not box).
And Zeus told her to never open the jar, but she did so anyway because the gods gave her curiosity.
However Zeus did not punish Pandora, unlike your god did with Eve - why?
Because Zeus knew it would happen - it's called omniscience. Or as philosophers like to call it "the predestination paradox" which contradict the existance of free will.
In other words being omniscient your god had to know Eve will eat the fruit.
Same goes for the so called "gods test", as god must know who will pass and who will fail before they are even born, making the whole test pointless.
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Or because I haven't studied it lol Some people devote their lives to that sort of thing.
Me, personally? I'm an atheist, so I don't care two spits how you compare gods. 
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AKA Proof that the Christian god is either an asshole or not all powerful.
If he was all powerful, a blood sacrifice would not be necessary for him to forgive sins.
If he is all powerful then he likes to make points that cause other people to suffer miserably.
Like Job. Who had to suffer just so God could feel good about himself and prove a point.Β
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Wait. So he HAS to be either an asshole OR not all-powerful? Why can't he be both an asshole AND not all powerful? xP
I think you're misunderstanding a bit, though. He IS all powerful - but that doesn't mean everyone is just off the hook. We were given guidelines because we're imperfect, immoral creatures. And God, though he is our father, is also a holy judge. This combination naturally damns us. Which was why Jesus died for our sins. God is "all powerful" in the sense that anything and all things are possible through him - Heaven IS within our grasp. But we have free will, which means we can grasp it, or not. That is what Jesus did for us, what God did for us - along with giving us the gift of life.Β
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That doesn't really make any sense though.Β
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What is the Β point of forcing people to suffer for forgiveness.
You can truly want forgiveness without having to murder innocent animals and waste their bodies, or murder an innocent man.
Like, if someone hurt my feels, I wouldn't make them kill their cat to make me happy.Β
If they say they are sorry and are sincere I can apologize them. That makes me a better man than the Christian God.Β
Also I don't tell people to rape women, murder entire civilizations, or stone gay people. So yeah XD
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Yeah, I know it can all be confusing.
The point isn't that we suffer for forgiveness. Jesus already did that for us - so we wouldn't have to. The point of that was love - which was something Jesus understood. He was our champion, our defender - and died so that we could have the CHOICE of being with God eternally.Β
That's all old testament creepfest - a different set of laws. Modern Christians follow the New Testament. xD
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So God murdered Jesus because God couldn't give us the choice to live with him eternally without killing Jesus.
So you can Justify someone for something they did that was terrible, just because in the future they aren't so bad?
Just because a Serial rapist and murderer becomes a law abiding christian while he is in the pen, doesn't mean you let him go. You still give him the lethal injection.
Also:
"I didn't come to change the law but to fulfill it"
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See, Jesus was given free will, too. He chose to die for our sins. This goes back to the first argument that anything and everything should be perfect and dandy through the snap of the flawless fingers of a man in long white robes and clouds in his flowing locks. That just isn't how it is - though it certainly would be easier lol. COULD God have said fuck it, sinful or not, just come party up stairs and whatevs? I dunno, probably. But that's not how it is. God doesn't act based on how we would want our perfect and easy world to be. There are laws, guidelines for us to follow while we're here.
I'm honestly not too sure what you mean here, so sorry, I can't reply to it. 
"I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy."
Nah, but really, even the Old Testament said there would be a new one. It was always to be, and it always the one we were to follow lol
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IF he could, then he should have.
Even as human beings we know that not hurting people is good and hurting people is bad.
Not stopping someone from being hurt when you can is bad too.
You make excuses for someone who has done far worse things than any human being alive.
Hitler didn't do as much damage as God commanded people to do in the bible.Β
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We don't live in a world of should have's, or how we wish the world were, unfortunately. The world is so beautiful, isn't it? But human aren't. And we made it that way - that isn't the fault of God. We can't have our free will, and then ask God to take it away by making everything better and holy and right. That is something that awaits in heaven - through Christ. It's a path and it's our choice to take it. Whether it should or shouldn't is an argument that can go in circles until the Earth stops spinning lol
To be honest, I'm not actually a Christian at all lol. I was raised Christian, so I know the arguments. I actually believe that earth is just a speck of dust, suspended in a sunbeam. It's lonely, and also beautiful. I don't fault Christian's for their beliefs. I do wish I had faith in an afterlife. ^-^Β
In any case, thanks for the conversation! Good luck~
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I read the Bible seven freaking times XD
So of Course I'm not a Christian lol.
The argument goes in circle and never ACTUALLY replies to the issues.Β
I wouldn't fault Christians for their beliefs, if it wasn't a sexist, racist, homophobic, murderous religion.Β
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lol I've read it twice, and still don't know half of it. People devote their lives to the study of it.
They reply, it's just not the replies you want or need to hear.Β
Not really. The most you could fault modern Christians for is being TOO overbearing about their religion. When's the last time you saw a slaughtered goat on someone's doorstep? xD
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I haven't seen that.
But I have seen a girl spanked in public for premarital sex.
And I have seen a girl thrown out of school for being raped.
And I have seen a teacher warning children of niggers.
I have seen countless churches trying to demonize homosexuals.
I have read the Bible and seen how the whole thing is filled with hate and rape.
Their replies have no basis in the Bible itself or logic.
Only one actual Christian I have argued with had actually read the Bible, and they were shocked at the things I pointed out.Β
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The majority of Christians would be appalled by the things you've listed - because their religion is one of love and tolerance. Unfortunately, like with anything else, it can be taken to extremes. The Christian religion has also saved thousands and thousands of lives.
If you want to judge the religion on what it used to be, I can't stop you. I wouldn't try to, actually, because stopping things implies effort. And I sorely hate putting effort into things.
Christian's have a right to their faith, just as anyone does. I've read the bible, I grew up with the religion. And it's still a religion and it's still so prevalent because it's not obvious, it's not easy to understand. Many Christians operate of faith alone, and strive only to be good and Christ-like. That is something I can't believe anyone finds fault it - even if they don't do it themselves.Β
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I have never met a single person who identifies as a christian and strives to be Christ-like, without becoming a terrible nasty racist, sexist human being.
It is also the definition of Republican XD
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I've met plenty. I go to church (not because I believe, I just like the energy... And breakfast food. IHOP ftw) and there always seems to be some event for charity or some good shit like that going on lol. I think many try harder than you think. They fail, naturally. But they try, and that's good enough for me.
Lmao that made me laugh xD
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They host charities for things they believe in, and harshly judge people for things they disagree with.
Like, interracial marriage, same-sex marriage, or not getting married, or not having a baby on purpose XD
When I tell them I never want kids, they look at me so strang rotfl
AND YEAH the Bill O Riley show makes me vomit XD
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That's everybody - we all are positive towards the things we agree with and negative towards the things we disagree with. You, for instance, are very negative towards Christians and judge them all the same way. Some Christians have a problem with the things you mentioned, some don't. Some Atheists have a problem with the things you mentioned, some don't. My grandma describes religion of all kinds as the biggest crock of stomped-on horse shit that anyone ever made money off - his words lmao. But he also hates anyone that isn't white. Every single Christian is an individual yo. I think you should give em more of a chance
Bill O Riley, though. Now there's a joke worth making lol
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If a Christian doesn't stomp on the things I dislike them for stomping on, then they aren't Christians. They don't believe in their own book.Β
If you are going to believe in something, you need to research it and be convicted in your beliefs. Otherwise I have no respect for you.Β
Like when people say they are Wiccan and all they think it is are collecting rocks.Β
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Unfortunately, your argument leads you only to hate. I hate A's because they believe in B. If A's don't believe in B, then they aren't really A's. They're fake A's, and I have no respect for fake A's.
Which means there's nothing more we can really say to one-another on this subject, because I disagree with that fundamental logic. So! Lemme say it's been nice talkin to ya, and good luck with your future deep, artistic creations!
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This is a bit random, but I really respect how you handle these conversations! Discussing a side you understand, but don't necessarily believe in, is a pretty humbling thing. I appreciate your respectful comments, and patience for all parties!
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Thank you for saying so! Too much ugliness these days - I don't want to contribute to it. Love the videos posted on your page by the way, the poem about a bad day especially. That cheered me up, so thanks for that!
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Thank you very much for this!! I hope you had a wonderful Good Friday and a hoppy hoppy Easter!! ^w^
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Well, I'd say it's an excellent attempt. Well done!
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Beautifully said⦠Thanks for sharing this! HAPPY GOOD FRIDAY!
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It is a good Message... I like it so... thanks!
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Very nice artwork and use of shadow. Β
Happy Easter and best wishes to all
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This is wonderful! Not a lot of people remember what this man did for us. Happy Easter. :}
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How dare Jesus have the arrogance to presume that I would be 'sinful' over 2000 years before I was ever born? What gives a person who has been dead (assuming he even existed in the first place) for over 2000 years the right to claim judgement on me?
What gives the followers of the cult the right to steal my ancestors spring time festival? Only to pervert it to convert people to their cult religion?
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You are the one who keeps your holidays sacred. Christians didn't "steal" holidays. They took traditions from original holidays so converts could continue to practice said days, but incorporated Christian holidays.
If you wish to celebrate Ostara, then celebrate it. No is asking you to look at this or acknowledge Christ. Be respectful of others beliefs, they'll be a bit more inclined to respect yours.
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Techically that kind of sneaky, under-handed form of cold warfare.Β We can't convert you, so we'll make our religion look just like yours so you're converted by default.Β This technique is still actually used in politics today.
I would just like people to realise that the holidays we celebrate, Christmas, Easter, Harvest festival, have nothing to do with Jesus.Β Early Christians didn't celebrate their birthdays, so why would they celebrate Jesus'.Β They are simply early civilisations' calendar, knowing when spring is due so crops can be planted and equally when they can be havested and stored for the the darkest night of the year.
As for me, like my caveman ancestors.Β I'm just glad the sun came back... I mean, it could have disappeared forever...
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