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KinnoHitsuji β Drawing from Reference
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Thanks again to Senshi Stock ( [link] ) for letting me use the image in this tutorial.You can find the original image here: [link]
A good artist uses references and lists what those references are if asked.
Now, there is a difference between referencing...
For example between these:
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And outright copying.
That one is referenced because it is similar, but not the exact same.
referenced=/= copied.
This would be copied (from the original) [link] (well the clothes, though not the position of the characters.)
Letβs review...
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referenced (I own the coat and made the scarf in real life... but severely altered the design.)
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Dress is copied. (From the manga)
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Good.
Text Heavy, but thats alright.
Also you cant really "copy" a dress. Unless its extremely unique or youre copying the patterns or something.
Putting links into the image doesnt really help (cant copy and paste). The images themselves would have been much better.
Though, I dont know if you think the same way, but I dont think you should reference other artist's work (ie; This site, Your favorite comic book artist, etc) , unless they are Older masters. But by referencing I mean Poses, Composition, and possibly color.
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DA forbids the use of images within a deviation without permission. So posting the images of both the reference and the image is a no go. But also posting what I drew and then giving a link to what was referenced kinda defeats things a little. So I offered a link to both. I do wish to mod the author notes to put in the links like I did for the other tutorials. Most of that is caveats on DA rules rather than the core of the tutorial--which is ways to draw.
As for dresses, Chanel and Gucci will sue if you take their dresses, make them and then sell them. DA enforces rules that references MUST be linked. Thus, if you take a dress for reference, you need to link the original reference. Besides, it is better for your reputation that you take the time to do such things. Most artists mention their sources if asked. Like X dress inspired me.
As for referencing poses--You should link up poses. The work of the model, the photographer and the time put in are worth something. You'd learn this in life drawing classes. I encourage people to take poses from real life or from stock photos. I mainly use stock photos or myself. (Or those from my drawing class). Drawing from your head isn't always a good idea, because if you have no classes, you have no idea how the body moves, can hold, not hold, etc.
As for Masters, masters should also get credit for the work they do. Masters also didn't take it "out of their heads" they took most of the poses from models--as do animators, painters, etc. The reason you shouldn't take poses from random photographs and images is because you didn't pay that model and they aren't giving it for free. But credit the Masters too. You'll find repaintings of the Mona Lisa are also credited.
Styles, I mostly draw artists that allow for fan art. For example, I stay away from Clamp, who doesn't like fan art, but draw Takeuchi-sensei stuff because she likes fan art. Styles aren't technically under copyright (Though a few can be contested under trademark), but credit should be given regardless and you can get people upset if you copy a style and claim you came up with it yourself (trollish behavior).
I'm on the better safe than sorry side. Link up and use safe references. When I used Chanel, I linked it up, even though I altered the design.
As for composition... well there are a few cardinal rules of composition. So if you know them, like a triadic, etc, who needs to borrow others?
Color only comes in a few flavors. O.o;; If you know complementary, analogous, triadic, you aren't really copying color if you go red, blue, yellow. You're using color theory... and color theory, last time I checked wasn't trademarked or copyrighted. I'm pretty sure that color theory (the use of) can't be copyrighted. (Like titles can't). You get color theory for free in Drawing classes, usually Art 101 in college. (If you didn't get it in k-12--which you should have). You can also find it on the internet and in books. Definitely don't have to credit that. Most of the time if I credit it, it's for the Oooohhh effect.
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You had to make this text heavy too?
Lets skim though this...
You could always ask for permission?
"Take and make them"
Youre not making them, youre drawing them.
and even then, youre not really Taking them.
(All dresses look the same to me, unless like I said, EXTREMELY unique.)
You seem extremely afraid of DA's rules. Like one screw up is bad.
Yeah I know.
I Vouch this every time.
Yeah yeah, masters, Hence why I mentioned them.
It isnt good to copy other artist's styles but, I wont get into that today. (CLAMP = Meh)
Yep.
If youre learning how to set up a good composition and dont know how, Its good to practice.
And yes they teach you Color theory in School, and Drawing/Design 1 in college, but what I was saying was when youre referencing from older paintings, you should use their Composition and colors.
Never said anything about Copyright or trademarks or anything.
Seeing as they dont matter.
Really scared of Rules, eh?
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Rules are there for a reason. When you break them, you get banned, flamed, ridiculed and in some societies kicked out to fend for yourself. When you claim something is 100% your work and post something like Mona Lisa, people are going to flame you, if you like it or not.
Should I list deviants that got banned or closed their accounts because of things like tracing or posting art that wasn't theirs? Or who referenced an image and then didn't give credit to the reference? People DO get upset, so why not take a few seconds to avoid hours of trouble?
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"You only get in trouble, if you get caught."
Well duh. This is why you dont blatantly post that.
Hence why you dont need permission to use something as a reference.
Unless you "photocopy" the picture, there shouldnt be any problem.
You dont need to. I find these people daily.
"Im posting this because I like it, and I got it off of photobucket"
And for the people that didnt give credit, gotcha. Not talking about that though.
People do get upset, this im very aware of, but I never said "dont give credit for references."
Which isnt what Im talking about.
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Giving proper credit is also courtesy, if I were a model, posing and someone used me as reference, I would love credit and I would love to see the works as well. If you dont like the way they did the tutorial, make your own. They are doing the right thing by crediting properly.
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"If you dont like it, You do it."
This is such a flawed response that Im getting sick of making fun of idiots who use it.
Also, No where did I say or Imply that I didnt like the tutorial, I just disagreed on something she wrote about in her comment.
After trying to remember what the hell this was about I re-read the comments.
My point still stands.
Yes, its a courtesy, but it isnt needed or required for something like clothes or other aesthetics, unless it's a very unique item.
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old masters deserve credit as well. just because their dead, doesn't mean that they should be forgotten.
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Exactly why I mentioned them.
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"unless they are Older masters."
then this line confuses me.
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The rest of the sentence
"You shouldnt reference artists, unless they are older masters"
Or something along those lines.
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