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It's not even an embryo when it doesn't have a heart! They're called zygotes and they can be donated, dumbass!
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I will make you time woth your nexyt comment:
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Ready no need of insulting me in the next comment.
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I correct then.
Do you know abortion SOME times is when the baby isnΒ΄t an EMBRYO yet.
Just saying?
But you are right, those times are really rare and I demostrate my lack of knowledge about the topic putting a comment lke that. I guess I have to investigate before commenting.
Oh! (I will say this the most kind possible),if you should have said that bad word while talking with me in real life I would be criying right now. And if you dare to say sometingh like that again...
You arealready banned.
Let me guess, I canΒ΄t ban someone for saying bad words true?
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So does hunting, And so does war. You're saying that it's better to have a NEGLECTED or ABUSED child on earth than it is to simply get rid of it. Another thing Don't like abortion: DON'T FUCKING GET ONE 
Lastly: If you say adoption well: Are you going to pay the Teen mother's hospital bill, or take that unwanted child and raise it with a good home and food? No? Shut the hell up.
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The only reason I suport abortion is because I would die if i gave birth. Literally. My mom almost did twice.
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Haven't you heard of cesarean section?
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yes. but the fact that im getting a sex change aint gonna help me have babehz XD
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<3 R.I.P to the babies who have died from abortion. <3
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Bless you for making this stamp and standing up for life.
Despite all the hate, know there are the many who support you as well.
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i'm gonna be honest- if i got pregnant and didn't want it and wasn't allowed an abortion, i'd rather die than actually complete the pregnancy.
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......why? There are many support groups for pregnant women who will help you and even set up arrangements for adoption. Don't forget the other options 
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For many people, pregnancy is the worst thing to happen. THE WORST. It might be because they have a severe phobia of pregnancy, or they're simply way too poor to give birth, or their body can't handle pregnancy and they may die from it.
Adoption solves the problem of unwanted children, not unwanted pregnancy, and many times pregnancy can be the worst part of it. This is why abortion is so important to many people.
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Simply give the baby away.
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If I were to ever, somehow become pregnant ( this is completely hypothetical ), I would terminate the pregnancy without a second thought.
Not because I have some sort of illness, not because I'm afraid of pregnancy, not because I want to 'live a free life', and not because of the cost.
I think humans are shitty excuses for lifeforms, the world is overpopulated, and I just hate kids. I wouldn't want to be responsible for bringing one about.
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I just said that adoption does not solve the problem of pregnancy. Giving the baby away does NOT solve the problem.
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It doesn't solve the problem of pregnancy but it still solves the problem of taking care of it. Abortion is to kill the baby so you don't have to work. Thus giving away the baby would simply take away the murder.
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Abortion removes the fetus because some women can't be pregnant. Did you know some women have phobias of pregnancy? Or some women have weak bodies and pregnancy would kill them? Not to mention pregnancy is god damn expensive and especially right now, many women just can't AFFORD to give birth.
Abortion is not black and white, not all women who abort are selfish lazy monsters. Many are just women struggling with problems. Please don't judge people you don't know.
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Can't? :/ I only understand that working if they PHYSICALY couldn't. I do not that. But did you know phobias are EXTREME fears? In all the cases of people who have a phobia of getting pregnant do everything not to. Such as never having sex in the first place. Look at all phobia cases and they do EVERYTHING to avoid them and go to real extremes. If they are weak I understand, but I never said that they couldn't get one. If it is your own mistake suffer through it. IF you will almost die I totally understand. Expensive? Pahlease. If you have insurance abortion costs MORE. I'm serious. :/ With insurance I've seen it 250, while I see it 300-500 for an abortion.
:/ In a way they ARE selfish. In a way they are not. I understand that you want to 'live life being normal' But if you made a mistake you should live with it. Killing shouldn't solve your problems. You may think this is for the best, that this abortion will help you. Yet it just shows someone unable to live with their own mistake. But as for rape victims, it's more understandable yet should be frowned upon all the same. And if your body is too weak I understand that a lot more. But still, if you are that week you shouldn't have sex.
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What if they're raped?
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Again, sex is a human need. You can't expect someone to go against thousands of years of evolution because they're afraid to be pregnant.
What kind of super insurance have you seen? Even with insurance my mom and dad had to fork our 5K a kid in my family, and we have the best insurance California can offer.
I'm glad you consider a child to be a lesson in behaving. Because that's what children are for, right? To teach those stupid adults that they're not allowed to have lives.
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A human need? Only for babies. You're talking about it like it's some drug you have to have or you will die. Thousands of years of evolution? I know dozens of people who don't give a damn about sex! For crying out loud, not thaw howl population has sex.
:/ Move someplace else if itβs such a big deal to you. I've seen great insurances, where Sea sections cost less than an abortion.
I'm glad you don't pay attention to what I'm saying. It really helps your argument. It may teach you something but that's not the main reason. You saved a life so to speak. You let a child breathe, to experience life. Instead of just killing it because you didnβt want it. And yet wanted to enjoy what creates it.
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Yes, it's a need. Maslow? Heard of him? [link] Sex is right there at the bottom of the pyramid.
Your dozens of friends don't represent the 7 billion people on the planet, honey. The majority of people want and crave sex because that's how nature designed us to be.
It isn't a big deal to me, actually. I don't plan on having children, so paying for birth isn't something I'm worried about. My only children will be 10+ cats. (If you know a company that provides c-sections for less than $500, then holy crap that place is pretty neat).
I don't care if I let a child breathe. I want to breathe instead, and do thousands of other women every year. Call us selfish if you want, but we will NOT be forced to do something just because people like you don't like it. We're our own people, not broodmares.
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One opinion does not make it a fact. Hell, you couldβve searched for a pyramid that had that in there. I have not been taught it was a basic need, not in school, not in life, not an experience. You are the first person to tell me this, so I doubt it is a fact.
Trying to turn it around on me eh? If .1% is big to you, more than that should be HUGE to you. The majority? No. I've only met 4 people that existed that craved it like you claim. The majority of people, aren't obsessed about sex. Some are perverts but acting like you can't live without it is crazy.
I love cats but if I had to choose between a cat and a human being I would pick the human being. :/ Mind you I love my cats. (Thatβs not common where you live?)
Giving birth won't kill you like you think it will. I understand if it will, but if not it is your mistake. Not the child. In a way that is selfish, but everyone has a bit of selfishness in them so don't freak out and call me cruel for it. I never said I've never done anything selfish, I'm saying that IS selfish. I'm trying to make you understand sex is not a need (And if you canβt live without it you live a crappy life :/), Abortion is not to be loved but a last LAST resort, and going back to 'I'll kill this child since they may not live a good life' is pure stupidity. It shows you are negative, don't give anybody chances, and is quite cruel.
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Then you went to a shitty school. It's the first thing brought up in every public speaking/sociology/physiology class in college.
Craving sex does not mean it's an obsession. An obsession is when you HAVE to do it and damn the consequences. Being hungry is craving food, doesn't mean you're obsessed with food.
I love cats more than the majority of humans. There are people are enjoy more than cats, but they're rare. I know I'd love cats more than a child. (No, but then it might be my state. CA is whined about being the most expensive for a reason).
You don't know what pregnancy would be to me. I might have tocophobia, or a physical limitation that could kill me from the extra strain (Thankfully I have neither. I just hate babies.)
Sex is a need. It might not be a need for you personally, or for me (I'm asexual), but it's a need for our species. Ignoring the obvious need to procreate, nature designed sex as a natural antidepressant. Sex cures depression, gets rid of headaches and painful cramps, connects people, encourages self-esteem, exercise, etc etc. Again, just because you don't consider it a need doesn't mean it's not recognized one by the biological and social community.
I give the MOTHER a chance. I will always put the rights of the mother first by supporting any choice she thinks is right for her. By choosing the rights of the fetus, you are effectively making the mother less than the fetus.
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Yes lets throw a kid into the udner funded, overwhelmed state system. I think abortion would actually be kinder.
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i would like you to say that to my adopted friends
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Sure bring them here & i'll tell them exactly that.
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Its not cruel at all. You tried to capture the moral highground because you thought i would capitulate if you used emotionalised logic & i refused to do what you thought i9 would do.
Fact is that its an objective fact that a good deal of people put into the system as a new born infant stay in the system. An even when they get out many adopted kids end up with serious personality issues based on being abandoned as a child.
Its just objective fact, versus personalised emotionalised subjective conjecture.
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Its cruel, no matter how you put it. Saying that to someone is just plain heartless sorry. If someone told me that and i was adopted, I'd cry. Life is hard, but that doesn't mean you take away someones chances because you don;t agree with the system. Remember, the flaws of a system speak louder than the positives. Why? because people are only interested in the flaws.
[link] and thats all i have to say about this :/
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"but that doesn't mean you take away someones chances because you don;t agree with the system"
Sure it does. Lets pretend that all people decided on putting a unwanted child in adoption. *shudders*
"Remember, the flaws of a system speak louder than the positives. Why? because people are only interested in the flaws."
No the flaws in this particular system speak loudest because the only virtue of this system is "we couldn't deal with being a parent." Fair enough if we are talking post birth choice, but to bring a child into the world when you specifically know you don't want a child & are going to farm them out to the state, at the expense of tax payers for potentially 18 years: Thats just not on. Its not fair to the system, the child, the other children, or the tax payer. You want cruel, thats cruel.
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i was just saying. i'm not planning on ever getting pregnant- the whole deal is something i couldn't deal with.
but NO ONE should force THEIR opinions on other people.
it's simply not fair.
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I only ask that people actually look at what is going on inside their bodies before they make a decision. Look at the facts, not the opinions.
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But, you don't get it. People do look at the facts. It terrifies some people to be pregnant, like, I mean, take me for instance. I am completely petrified of the idea of pregnancy, I would rather die than carry a child for a week, if I had to do such a thing I would likely be filled with anxiety, stress, fear, and sadness. I assume there are plenty of people this is way worse for, and it would be terrible to make them go through it. The thing inside them isn't even born, it is not a person, it has more in common with a parasite. It's where life starts, but it doesn't mean everyone needs to start it. People could avoid having sex, yeah, but sex is a basic human need.
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Having a certain type of abortion (there are 3 types I think, but they can only be done at certain times) causes the baby's blood to.......exit the body though you know where and that scares the shit out of people. I would rather be pregnant and take responsibility for what I did than see the blood of the child I killed :/
I am also terrified of pregnancy and birth and such, but if I ever got pregnant without meaning to I would be responsible, have the child, and put it up for adoption. Some families are unable to have children, and with adoption they can have a child.
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It's not even a child, it's a fetus. Just because that's what YOU would do, or what YOU think does not mean other people should not be allowed to abort a child, it doesn't mean other people's fears are unwarranted, it doesn't mean other people wouldn't go to drastic measures. You would have a child, congratulations, but that's irrelevant, as you can have a child while not removing other peoples' rights not to.
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after a while it develops a beating heart, so technically it is sorta alive. And even when it isn't alive, you are preventing it from ever living or seeing the Earth because of a mistake that you made and the easy way out that you chose. I used myself as an EXAMPLE, Im not saying other people should act like me.
Not being mean, but I just think that if you make a mistake, you should take responsibility for what you did instead of killing it and walking away. Now thats MY opinion. I'm NOT saying everyone has to obey it, and i'm NOT saying everyone acts like me.
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You're aborting it before it developes a beating heart, it does not think, it cannot survive on its own, it is basically a parasite, and there's nothing wrong with removing something that isn't alive.
Exactly, it's YOUR opinion. That doesn't mean abortion shouldn't be legal. It just means you won't partake in it.
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But it WOULD HAVE developed. Abortion prevents life. And I never said my opinion should make abortion illegal or anything. I just stated it, just like you did.
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I was explaining why abortion should be legal, I thought you were explaining why abortion should be illegal, I apologise.
Yes, it would have developed, but it didn't, and it isn't at the time.
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It's ok.
Yes, it isn't developed, but it would have been and at some point it would have been alive.
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Yeah, but it isn't then.
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Oh goodness don't even get me started with this stamp. So many arguments against it.
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im so against abortion, cool stamp. and i hate how ppl say "Its only Christians and Catholics who hate abortion" i actually know athiests that hate abortion.
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A fetus isn't technically alive before a certain amount of time.
If the abortion happens early into the pregnancy then nothing dies.
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Still, people should take responsibility for the mistake they made.
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... And THIS is why pro-lifers gain so much ground.
Did you know, you ignorant nut, that a bloody bacteria is alive? That the bloody egg and sperm are alive? So a fucking developping foetus is alive too. Okay, it has no more humanity than a flatworm for 6 months, but it IS alive.
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And we take pills to kill those too.
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