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LordViktorHorrible [2024-08-12 06:18:49 +0000 UTC]

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nayasnake [2024-06-05 20:10:10 +0000 UTC]

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Bug-Off [2023-06-18 06:22:20 +0000 UTC]

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Phracker [2023-02-16 13:25:10 +0000 UTC]

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Snyarhedir [2022-12-24 06:59:35 +0000 UTC]

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Phracker In reply to Snyarhedir [2023-02-16 13:25:34 +0000 UTC]

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SuperArtMaxim In reply to Phracker [2024-04-27 03:40:06 +0000 UTC]

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kyrtuck [2022-08-15 15:15:21 +0000 UTC]

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SchattenLotus [2018-09-13 00:11:11 +0000 UTC]

Someone give me a Rifle when such a Teratism tries to destroy our Nations Monuments which are Reminders of our Histories.





Please do and enjoy the Show.

I know getting sentenced for killing someone is uncool, but when living in my Country becomes Hell anyway - why not "deport" a few Teratisms right into the Afterlife?

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Dragonheart51 [2018-08-15 16:44:24 +0000 UTC]

Traitors deserve no remembrance. They prepared for their rebellion for more than twenty years, stockpiling arms (which they got from the British) and drilling militias which were to be turned into the Confederate Army, and training officers at their own academies as well as west point. They deserve not just defeat but oblivion.

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LewisLiberman In reply to Dragonheart51 [2018-10-19 23:16:25 +0000 UTC]

So, an artist that supports censorship and the destruction of art dedicate to American veterans? That's some nice public school brainwashing you got going on there ha ha.

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Dragonheart51 In reply to LewisLiberman [2018-10-20 04:08:15 +0000 UTC]

American veterans? Then how do you think we should deal with our traitors? How do you think we should treat people who served an immoral system and were the patsies of the British. We should have hung Robert E. Lee, Jeff Davis and every one who served in the Confederate government.

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WeegeeSlayer In reply to Dragonheart51 [2022-06-18 06:59:36 +0000 UTC]

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LewisLiberman In reply to Dragonheart51 [2018-10-20 07:40:41 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha, so I guess you would have sided with the British and advocated against Jefferson and Washington for being traitors too? Britain made the case that the American "rebels" were serving an "immoral" system too back in the 1700s.

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SuperArtMaxim In reply to LewisLiberman [2022-02-01 20:54:24 +0000 UTC]

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Dragonheart51 In reply to SuperArtMaxim [2022-02-01 21:09:09 +0000 UTC]

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PeteSeeger [2018-07-09 23:35:43 +0000 UTC]

In response to your "source":
1) The North did not invade the South. The Confederates attacked federal bases and illegally declared independence, because they believe the election of President Lincoln threatened the "peculiar institution" of slavery. Furthermore, those monuments were, by and large, put up during the 1890s and 1960s, in the first to sanctify the institution of Jim Crow by shifting the narrative of the Civil War and uniting the poor Whites and the plantation owners against the freedmen and in the second to encourage Southerners to oppose the Civil Rights movement under the blanket of "Southern Heritage."Β 
2) There are no credible records of free Blacks willingly serving in the Confederate Army.Β 
3) The American Revolution was not treason because Great Britain had failed in it's duties to it's North American citizenry and abridged their rights. The Confederacy, having instigated the conflict without provocation, can make no such claims.
4) Makes no actual claims other than subtly implying slavery might not have been as awful as people think it was. In that regards, it is right: by and large the conditions of enslaved Blacks was worse than most modern Americans believe.
5) I understand, they believe it's part of their culture. However, why am I obligated to respect the ancestors of the Southerners, why am I not bound to respect the ancestors of the Blacks, who the ancestors of the Southerners oppressed?

The war was for slavery. There are no two ways about it. I owe nothing to anybody who fought for it. And yeah, if they fought for the Confederacy, they fought for slavery, not their culture, not their states, for slavery. The Confederacy was founded with the explicit purpose of maintaining and expanding slavery.
The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists among usβ€”the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution...The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away... Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon itβ€”when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."
-Alexander H. Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy

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LewisLiberman In reply to PeteSeeger [2018-10-19 23:14:50 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the book. I've heard all the "Righteous Cause" mythology before. But I do recommend attempting to read outside the 3 by 5 notecard of allowable opinions Abbeville Institute is a good place to start.

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PeteSeeger In reply to LewisLiberman [2018-10-19 23:31:17 +0000 UTC]

Do you have any actual argument as to why I'm wrong?

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LewisLiberman In reply to PeteSeeger [2018-10-20 07:45:21 +0000 UTC]

I suggest you reference the original post and reply to me on the blog. I present plenty of sources there. But honestly, I'm sure neither one of us are interested in changing our views. And its been debated by Southerners and Yankees for a couple hundred years now. Its just cultural, and that's okay. America is made up of many very different people groups, which is why it would be best for us to maybe seek peaceful separation. People do it all the time through divorces and such.

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SuperArtMaxim In reply to LewisLiberman [2022-02-01 20:56:00 +0000 UTC]

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GoonEins [2018-04-21 22:26:40 +0000 UTC]

They plaigerized that hammer from Paper Mario!

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DarthRoden [2017-08-19 00:33:45 +0000 UTC]

Well done!

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LewisLiberman In reply to DarthRoden [2018-10-19 23:16:50 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Darth!

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LewisLiberman In reply to DarthRoden [2017-08-24 14:58:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Darth Roden!

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DarthRoden In reply to LewisLiberman [2017-08-25 05:48:56 +0000 UTC]

LOL only thing is the whole "2nd Grade History Grad" part is being a bit too generous with that lot.

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LewisLiberman In reply to DarthRoden [2017-09-09 23:08:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's really sad as a good understanding of history not only helps people avoid the mistakes of the past - but it contributes to a better picture of who they are as well. Wish people in the west enjoyed history more, but perhaps that's a result of our "fast-food" culture or whatever you want to call it

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