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Beware the power of logic.I made Leon bit of a wuss here, didn't I? I don't really think of him as a such, but Ada felt like the best person to use the Logic attack, and somehow I felt like making RE characters to spout cliches (since, you know nothing like that ever happens in RE), and Leon got to play the part of the damsell in distress.
Seriously, whenever a creature transforms into a much bigger monster, I always wonder how did they fit there, and if it means that the big form doesn't weigh much, or if it was very heavy to begin with...
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lolz ashley is holding up her skirt lolz and the merchant got the jet ski lolz but what i dont get is saddler blowing away lolz so the process begins again lolz the can spread it lolz
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Hurrah for science! My dad would love this. We're always arguing about this sort of stuff, but mainly with how the alien in Alien managed to take on so much mass so quickly.
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I keep invertebrates, and in order to grow, they must molt, constructing the new, bigger body inside the old one.
It can be really amazing how the new creature comes from the much smaller shell. Some tarantulas I've seen grow twice their legspan in one molt! Or watching butterflies or dragonflies emerge from their old skin, really amazing.
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Here's a pic of my Brachypelma smithi after his molt, he had already hardened when I took the pic. That brown thing is his old leg. Yeah, his legs fit inside of it.
Of course they are very soft right after the molt, and bigger they are, longer the hardening and stretching to the new size will take.
But, the shell they leave behind, while often, as in the case of tarantulas, looking like the animal, is actually very light, and most of the mass is taken out of it.
I suppose something like Saddler's final form coming out like that would work if it was in the scale of a real spider or an insect. But Saddler in human form would be sluggish and not able to move properly, and the huge parasite coming out would be very vulnerable before hardening.
Of course, the scale of it makes this kind of thing impossible.
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Wow, that extra leg looks so small in comparison.
The science of video-games, gotta love it
I don't know much about biology, I'm finding all this stuff really interesting
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Resident Evil started out as more sciencey, but around Code Veronica it was already full-blown B-movie stuff.
Which is a part of why I like it so much.
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CV probably is my fave RE game so far. Though I still haven't finished it. But I like all the over the top elements of it.
RE1 doesn't like me. I would've completed the game by now but I keep dying, I've watched the cutscene where Wesker explains his master plan six times already. And for some reason my game doesn't aim.
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Code Veronica gets bad at the end, sorry to say, with repeatitive environments, backtracking, and some bullshitty stuff with the inventory.
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Ah... I'm up to the bit where I either have to save Claire or fight the giant spider. But any amount of backtracking won't drive me half as insane as fighting Tyrant for a seventh time
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Brilliant! I always wandered the same thing about the newer "larger" resident evil bosses, maybe it was just crammed under his cloak all that time, i don't know.
It happened to irving in resident evil 5 aswell on the boat, in the space about 10 seconds. After watching that I was just like "riiiight....."
Anyways, nice work!
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With Irving, I thought he merged with some mutant squid underwater. I liked the way tentacles splurted out of his back, though.
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Actually, one of the files which you read in RE5 states that the 'transformations are so extreme that the subject can never go back to the life of a normal human being', or something to that effect. So, Saddler, Mendez, Irving, Wesker, et al (except poor Excella, who was consumed, not transformed) underwent one-way physical processes that changed them irrevocably. The only, eentsy problem I can see is that chemical processes running so furiously as to allow that kind of growth would release so much energy that the subject would likely burst into flame, or boil alive....
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These kind of things always happen so very fast in games and movies like this, don't they? but in many cases it's indeed the problem of the excess mass that makes me wonder the most, more than transformations that take few seconds.
What file is that, exactly, and what is it talking about? Las Plagas?
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It's in the files that you unlock as you progress through the game, and become accessible while you complete it:
[Exerpted] No. 3, Majini:
"Infected humans lose all rational thinking faculties and are wholly subject to control by another type of Plaga known as a control Plaga (usually another infected human)." And, "Their [Alpha Team's] report indicated that a Las Plagas sample was extracted from Europe and has undergone both biological and genetic modification, creating a more effective and potentially dangerous biological weapon" [Type 2 Plagas]. And: ...however, to maximize their effectiveness as a weapon, the person(s) who command them do not need to possess a control Plaga to do so..."
[Exerpted] No. 6 Ricardo Irving:
"... he was soon overtaken by the hooded figure, who provided him a vial containing Las Plagas. This was to be his punishment for failure. He was to administer this on himself in order to fight the two agents. This vial contained a Las Plagas variant known as a control Plaga." And: "the control Plaga differs from the common form in that it does not take over a host's rational thought process. Another difference being that it causes extreme transformations to the host. As such, control Plaga hosts must resign themselves to never being able to live as a normal human again."
To me, this also seems like a psychological science finction, as well as a physical one, because I can't see anyone, let alone the arrogant, narcissistic Excella, accepting so monstrous a distortion of the human frame (which Uroboros would also have caused -"leechlike pustules"(!?!)- in all successfully infected by it) for the sake of power...
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Thanks.
I do wonder if Excella was thinking about infecting herself with the same virus Wesker had or something, or was she thinking she was already fit to rule the new world?
Uroboros only caused those leech-like things in people who were not compatible with it.
In any case, the world would be full of people willing to risk madness or disfigurement for the sake of power, especially in countries that are in war, but for the most part in RE, the attempts of Umbrella seem to have been more towards the creation of monsters humans could use as weapons.
I still think Irving could have merged with an existing infected monster underwater, the way Salazar did with his plant. At least it would explain where all that stuff came from.
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About point no. 1:
Excella was intimately involved with the development of Uroboros and would have to have known that it was to be released into the world at large, to infect EVERYONE (as CEO of Tricell Africa, I'm sure that the requisition for that strategic bomber would've crossed her desk) "...six billion cries of agony will birth a new balance...[Wesker]." Sort of, 'kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.'; so not assuring her own compatibility with it is VERY strange, as she was a genius bioengineer in her own right [File no. 11, Excella Gionne]. Also, those 'leechlike pustules' were VERY evident on the successfully infected Wesker, winding around his arms and shoulders, even allowing him to grab a helicopter! And,
Point no. 2:
In File no. 12, Albert Wesker:
"The development of bio-organic weapons was only a means of achieving his [Oswell Spencer's] true goal - the forced evolution of mankind via viruses."
I guess that cut scene in which Wesker meets Spencer (No. 45) is aptly named: "Dreams of a Madman"...
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I wondered about that thing with Excella. Maybe she was under the impression that she would be immunized, or compatible with Uroboros.
Those leech-like things (I'm a bit uncertain what they actually are) Wesker got didn't grow from his flesh, he took them from a container. I don't actually think we have any clear knowledge on whether Wesker himself had Uroboros in his body prior to that.
Yeah, I know about Spencer and all that, but I was thinking about their actual products, like hunters and Chimeras, so the products they were making and selling. Allthough as I have wondered before, one would think that with technology they had engineering viruses for wiping out selected populations via disease would be more profitable and sensible than using it to make monster frogs.
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1.) For my part, were I in Excella's position, I sure WOULDN'T be relying on impressions, but verification of hard, scientific data regarding my compatibility with the virus. And were I not compatible, I would quietly, secretly immunize myself (the vaccine could be synthesized from Jill's blood). The consequences of error would simply be too horrifying...
2.) You're right. Those leech-like things came out of the container (labelled Uroboros), but they ran into and out of Wesker's body (I have the cut-scene running at this moment), and fused chunks of metal to him, so, nonetheless: EEEEEEEEEWWWWWW!!!!
3.) Weaponizing viruses does make more sense as a direct weapons development program (thats how REAL nations do it, after all), but recall that weapons development was NEVER the goal, the TRUE goal being the directed modification of living tissue to preconcieved shape and function, with the weapon spinoff being used as a 'cash cow' to fund further research; in effect, using the experiments (monsters) as salable commodities... after all, if you can trick living tissue into monstrous shapes, might you one day hope to design strength and beauty?
3.a.) The 'wiping out of selected populations' was not the goal, but the SELECTING out of specific individuals from ALL populations WAS, so something as crude as a vicious pandemic would not have suited Oswell's ambitions....
And by the way, thanks for putting up with me.
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Hey, I like way overthinking things. And trying to make some sense of the biology in RE.
I agree, that's what I would have done too, but whether Excella did or not, she seemed to trust Wesker. But she doesn't act like she is smart or very scientific. I tend to think of her as a person who has pretty much always got what she wanted, if not with money, then with her looks and brains (which she supposedly has, according to the game anyway), and being so egoistical (and probably blinded by Wesker's charisma and badassery) she was unable to even think of a possibility of Wesker betraying her.
Ewww? I know they are not actual leeches, but they are still kinda cute...
I like leeches.
As for Umbrella's business, even if Spencer's goal was all along the development of "super-human" breed with kitty eyes, they were still a company, and a company, especially one with so many branches like this one, would have special groups working on the weapons. Not to mention they also had a whole lot legitimate business and research going on. I would be curious as to how it all worked, and how information went inside the company.
And who (except Spencer) did know about this whole super-human
project anyway? They thought they were doing it to make weapons.
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1.) True that. Trusting Wesker is the LAST thing anyone should do, let alone someone who would have complete files on him (as the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium would). The most rational response to such a person seems to be Leon Kennedy's management for his attraction to the sleek, sociopathic Ada Wong. He was smart enough to maintain a careful psychological distance from her, and NEVER forget her potential for harm to himself and others.
2.) But... they were leechLIKE....aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhh!!!...PUSTUUUULES!!!!... *shudder*..*retch*....
3.) Yes, it would be to Spencer's advantage to have his technicians work whole-heartedly under the premise they were developing weapons, not the least reason being that their innovation, and the consequent salutary business effects would be best served by that premise, but if the weapons got in the way of the greater project, Spencer would take measures to restrain them and give ostensible reasons to hide his true motivations. An example of this strategy is the BSAA. While postdating Umbrella, it is nevertheless instructive: OSTENSIBLY it exists to control bioterrorism, but a document in the train station outside the mines indicates it is also used as a 'test bed' to determine the combat effectiveness of the Type 2 and Type 3 Plagas, (or any other B.O.W.s). Think of Syndrome using the 'supers' to test his Omnidroid in 'The Incredibles'. Yet another use of the BSAA would be to make sure that none of the customers of Tricell, et al, would ever get 'to big for their britches', and arrive at a position of dominance disruptive of the status quo. Plans within plans....
3.a.) The internal organization of Umbrella COULD be organized such that the research results germain to the true goal of the organization could be collected without the technicians realizing what they were truly working toward. Think of contracting out a computer: each team builds a component, but no one knows what the whole machine looks like, or is even aware that they're working on a computer at all...the relevant data (manufactures) are collected, and 'systems integration' is done by an elite team that knows the ultimate goal. The collected material here would be those elements of genetic engineering data that would serve the superhuman project. This is rather like how Seth Brundle built his teleporter in Ben Chronenberg's 'The Fly'.
4.) THANK YOU for that 
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I wouldn't go as far as describe Ada as sociopathic, since she does seem to feel some empathy towards Leon, at least, allthough this relationship is not simple, to say the least. In any case, I like Ada, if only because she seems to have some brains.
But Excella, bleh.
Yeah, that's kinda what I've been thinking Umbrella's organisation would be like. Also, very messy and employing a whole suborganisation wholly devoted to creating emblems and random puzzles.
And I also suspect asking too many questions about where certain suspicious samples or data came from would be a good way to lose your job. Along with some body-parts.
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Ada is my favorite female character in RE, and to play; lithe and athletic, with Sally Cahill's sexy voice acting (and LOOOOVE that long dress), but try this experiment:
Start RE4 and walk Leon through the village, reading his responses to interact prompts, and you'll get responses like:
"This bed is heavily stained; it looks like a person's blood."
"Many small insects are feasting on uneaten food."
"My God! If only he'd come with me" and,
"Definitely the type I don't get along with."
The man has walked into the tail end of a genocide, and is startled and disturbed....
Start RE4 'Separate Ways' and walk Ada through the village, reading her responses to the same interact prompts, and you'll get:
"I certainly wouldn't let filth like that touch MY skin."
"These people could use some cooking lessons."
"Is this what passes for police work around here?" and,
"The object of my mission."
Ada, surrounded by the same horror, thinks only of herself, repulsed by the grossness of the situation, oblivious to the suffering associated with it.
The woman simply has NO empathy, a dead givaway for sociopathy. And sociopaths DO form affections for some people, it's just that the mechanism of that affection works differently from the rest of us...
I ultimately like Ada too, but like Leon, would NEVER let myself forget what she was...
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Hm, I noticed that too, but I think in those cases I just thought that this is what the character is saying to me, rather than talking to herself/himself. And maybe that Ada responds to horror by joking about it, as some people do. I really haven't thought of whether those things are what they are really thinking to themselves.
Plus Leon himself can sound kinda like a douche when coming face to face with some horrors. "These people were brutally tortured. And experimented on. Sucks to be them"
Plus his response to a guy who is slowly approaching him (who just barged in his house waving a gun around) with a small scythe, is to shoot and kill him.
I guess part of the appeal for a character like Ada is that you don't really know what her motives are and where her alliances lie. As far as pairings go, I kinda like Ada/Wesker, for the possibility of mindgames and interaction there. I've read some good fics where they weren't really in love, but kinda using each other, but having this weird twisted partnership.
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Yeah, I was surprised by Leon's thoughts in the cryo-lab too. It was in response to subjects being frozen with the parasites still in them. But keep in mind, he thought their predicament SUCKED. This still shows empathy. (and those Iron Maidens were, next to Garrador, the most horrifying critters in the game, IMO).
Leon DIDN'T barge into the man's house waving a gun around, but approached respectfully, asking if the man had "seen this girl", the man responded with hostile words (possibly profanity, I don't speak Spanish), and swung the scythe at Leon, causing him to dodge for his life. Leon then told the man to freeze, TWICE, and then the game gave control back to the player. Whether the Ganado was shot was YOUR choice to make, as Leon. I think the game was making a point, establishing the premise of the automatic, lethal hostility of all you would meet....
From the standpoint of pairings, wouldn't it be wise for a woman to realize that a man such as Wesker, Marcus, or Spencer, could spin ANY woman into their perfect, personalized Galatea, commanding biology as they do. So what allure could any daughter of mere time and chance, as any natural-born woman is, be offered to them, sufficient to establish the bonds of love and loyalty? Yet another baffling Excella (and where did they get THAT goofy name?) error (she was a genetic engineer herself).
As for Ada's motives, I think that's simple: She has a powerful independence of mind, coupled to an equally powerful sense of self-interest, and her alliances will shift according to tactical and strategic need. This is what let's her survive exposure to the manufactured egomania and messianic delusions of Wesker...
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Leon went inside his house, without knocking, with a gun in hand. Took a picture from his pocket and started waving it in front of the man while talking in English.
The man then asked "What are you doing here? Get out" (I'm not 100% sure of the translation here, mind you, but if a foreign guy barged in my house with a gun and showed me some picture while talking in a language I don't understand, that might be something I would say)
From a point of gameplay, it's the first real encounter, a sort of tutorial before you're thrown right middle of action in the village-scene.
I'd agree Ada isn't emotionally normal, and in a job like her's that would pretty much be required, but I would still consider her to be more emotionally capable of normal human relationships than Wesker, for example.
Ah, but love makes fools of us all, doesn't it? And I suspect people like Wesker and Spencer could easily pretend emotions. I really can't imagine Wesker in love, (except maybe during his early years, if he was more human back then) but as for pairings go, I actually find Wesker/Chris plausible. Not because there would be love there, but because I think Wesker would get his kicks out of controlling and humiliating Chris. The same could be applied to Wesker/Jill as well, to a lesser extent.
But yeah, Excella was pretty dumb.
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I looked into some translations of the Ganado's response to Leon, and you know what? You're intuitive sense of the meaning of the Spanish was shockingly accurate! In Spanish: "Que carajo estas haciendo aqui? Y largate cabron!", near as I can piece it together, is: "What are you doing in my house? And leave, f****r!" (the punctuation is incorrect, but I don't know how to use this site to correct this). And yes, entry into that house WAS not only improper, but a chargeable felony here in the U.S. (burglary). Perhaps Leon could have enlisted those two cops for help, (maybe Spanish law is different?) but they were too worried about "parking tickets" (lol). Withal, I still think you're too harsh on ol' Leon.
Sorry about this, but back to 'bleh':
I will never cease to be bemused by the people who can see so vivid an example of vicious betrayal as the death of Excella, (who was, in truth, both brilliant and effective in her role within Tricell), who was swallowed in a wild chaos of fulminating macroparasitism to serve an immediate tactical end, and still think of Wesker as someone with whom anyone could be ' paired '. Or as a desirable person whom oneself could love (some fangirls on this site DO).
Loyalty and love are NOT 'dumb' (recall your own statement, 'love makes fools of us all' ). If they are, among the 'dumb' must be numbered: Chris (Jill,Jill,Jill,...you're like a broken record...), Sheva (...for our fallen brothers!), Claire, Jill (Chris...I'm so sorry...[and to Sheva] Take care of him[Chris].), and Leon ([disappointed, to Ada]...so it's true, you ARE working for Wesker...). To the numbers gulled into the loss of their lives, add the Alpha and Delta teams of the BSAA, including Dan DeChant.
What Excella was, upon reflection, was normal, and badly displaced. She should serve as a horror-movie example of the consequences of attraction to what the American historian John Toland described as the 'hard glitter of the famous monster'. That so many can play this game and have this lesson fail to 'take' is a matter of genuine curiosity *shakes head*....
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Not to mention sending someone who doesn't speak Spanish might not be the best idea...
As for Wesker-fangirlism, it's a classic example of the charm bad boys have, and the idea, that a love of someone special could break through that and even change him. Not to mention that it's a fantasy, and I for example like Wesker as a character, and think he is awesome, but were I meet someone like that in real life, I would be appalled and horrified.
I still think Excella was dumb. Even if she really loved Wesker and was loyal to him, not seeing his betrayal...
Love and loyalty are not dumb, but they can certainly lead smart people to do dumb things. But, as for Excella's motivations, her love and attraction towards Wesker was only a part of it. She was also in it to get power herself, as for this whole creating super-humans-thing. And we don't even know if she really loved Wesker and was loyal to him. What if she was thinking she was in control and playing Wesker? And certain she wouldn't be betrayed, because she has always before been able to use her charm, intelligence and money to succeed?
I think Wesker definitely had an influence there, but I wouldn't call Excella normal or innocent in all of this.
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Could that 'love of someone special' derive from the egotistic estimation of one's own worth? Hmmmmmm....Excella springs eternal (lol).
I don't think Excella thought, ever, that she was 'in control'. Rather, her file describes someone of great intellect and ambition who felt slighted and whose resentments were played to. Wesker was essentially Iago to Excella's Othello...he also "exploited her romantic interest in him...." Also highly probable is that the true nature of Wesker's ambitions revealed themselves to her only slowly, and would have been rejected if known all at once....
But you're right, Excella could NEVER be described as innocent, and indeed WAS complicit in a monstrous plan for planetary genocide: "As the Uroboros Plan neared completion, Excella began to fancy herself as the queen in the new world order that would follow the plan's execution." (file no. 11, Excella Gionne). I can't, ultimately, feel sorry for her fate, but must regard it as a kind of hideously precise, poetic justice for the crimes of her ambitions (live by the bioengineered virus...). Still, my own weaknesses, perhaps the chivalry of an old man, causes me to shudder at that cut scene (I actually avoid it).
As for what 'normal' people are capable of, I'd like to suggest yet another book to you: Stanley S. Milgram's 'Obedience To Authority' , written in 1963, tells of clinical phychological experiments in 1961, and those experiments have been verified by recent efforts which replicated their results. This is a real-life horror story, and should give you a couple of sleepless nights...but also show that many acts which we would disown by means of a professed moral distance are within us all, and indeed, the prevention of crimes by remembrance is futile, if we do not see within ourselves the potential for what we remember.
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Yeah, it's basically a power-fantasy, unless the person has some masochistic tendencies, they are going to imagine that they can be special to this bad boy, and that they have the power to help them, or to achieve something no-one else could.
Most of the romantic stories seem to be written by females, so I don't know if this type of fantasy is as common among males as it seem to be among females.
There was this whole thing with Excella being in charge of the injections Wesker needed, as well as her herself using the syringe. All that made me think that maybe Wesker wanted her to think she had some power over him.
I actually enjoy the scene where she dies, and it also allows me not to hate her character. You see, when the trailers for Re5 were coming out, and we saw her, I was so afraid they would write Wesker to have some affection towards her. Because she gets what coming to her, by the hand of Wesker, I can actually feel sorry for her. We don't know much about her research before Wesker's influence, do we? Whether she was involved with human-experiments before meeting Wesky?
Ah, yes. Normal might not have been the best word for it. I was thinking normal in a sense that she was not criminally insane like pretty much every bad guy in this series.
Thanks for recommendations(I don't think I have read that book, but I'm somewhat familiar with the experiment), I've been reading about Nazi reign lately (currently reading Mein Kampf), and indeed, those kind of things happen not because there's one super-evil dude who takes over, but because normal people go along with it. It can be scary what ordinary, decent people will do, sometimes not even for bad reasons, but that nevertheless help bad things to happen.
Which is why it's sometimes nice to play a game like RE where it's clear who is the evil guy, and who has simple, evil motives.
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Wesky?!?...that's like naming a pet Tyrannosaur 'fluffy'...
I have to ask: Why would you be 'so afraid' Wesker would show some affection towards Excella? Part of the problem I have with Wesker is his enigmatic nature; he seems nothing more than a bottomless well of malice and pathology.
To cite an example: In Ridley Scott's 1982 'Blade Runner', Rutger Hauer plays a spectacular villian named Roy Batty. Roy is an advanced kind of android called a Replicant, virtually indistinguishable from a human, though vastly stronger and smarter. Throughout the movie he is an electrifying, harrowing menace to all he meets, and clearly behavoirally non-human. Yet, he is one of my all-time favorite sci-fi characters. The reason for this is that he was built to have a four-year lifespan. Being as intelligent as he is, he is tormented by an acute knowlege of what has been denied him, and shows, in action and speech, an intense love of every vivid second of life. As inhuman as he is, a powerful identification with him is inevitable for any thoughtful viewer. And by movies end, he approves himself a man of grace and wisdom, saving the life of his police persuer, so that some small part of the realization of the crime against him may echo beyond his death ("I've seen things you wouldn't believe, attack ships on fire off the shores of Orion, moonbeams glittering near the Tannhauser Gate, and all that is about to be washed away....like....tears...in rain." ). I think, that if you want to make a character who will be identified with by his audience, you must provide something about them which the heart of the observer may recognize, and call it's own. I might have liked Wesker a lot more if he could have loved Excella, even a little...
I always felt that Excella administered Wesker's injections because he simply trusted her, a remarkable thing for him, and testament to her loyalty, when you remember that he sent Krauser to keep a watchful eye on Ada ("...I don't trust you, and neither does Wesker. If you try anything clever, I WILL kill you." ). Another thing Excella could have done (I'D have), is both immunize herself against Uroboros AND treat herself with PG67 A/W. Imagine 'Wesky's' surprise when he found out that something in heels and a pencil-skirted cocktail dress could move THAT fast! 
Excella's file (No. 11) says she entered Tricell's pharmaceutical division at age eighteen. And "Even with all the research teams at Tricell's disposal, she was only given one. Excella viewed this act as a slight. While still feeling indignant over this affront, she was approached by Albert Wesker." That poor thing was probably all of about nineteen! If human experimentation was going on, she wasn't at it for very long, and I doubt, ever, since she was a daughter of the 'royalty' of the company, and wouldn't likely be handed the dirty work, to spare her in case of prosecution.
For myself, I play these things because they are a 'blast from the past', and keep me young, but sometimes they can lose their appeal, when current events could cause even modern science fiction writers to exclaim, as H.G. Wells did shortly before his death: "Apparently history has set itself to surpass me."
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The reason I like Wesky is because is a complete bastard. If I want realistic characters with complex motives, I go read a book or watch a good movie. RE doesn't do drama well either, and part of the charm, for me at least, is the sillyness of the storylines and characters.
I was also afraid they would ruin Wesker's character with this game when it came to revealing his plans. His character has changed over the course of the series, staring up as a minor villain who gets killed off, becoming a super-powered-mercenary and evolving into a supervillain working behind the scenes. At that stage, in Re4 and Umbrella Chronicles, he is a mysterious figure, and his plans are not really known. Not even by the writers, I would guess. When CAPCOM wanted to wrap up the storylines of RE, to start up fresh in RE6, he had to die, and since he was the main villain in the game, they had to give him a concrete plan. Many fans of the series feel they messed up his character in Re5, but I tend to think of it as a better choice for the character than it could have been. Except for that whole "Wesker Children" stuff.
I tend to look Wesker as a character who starts up as a human, but who tries to get rid of his humanity, resulting in his madness by the Re5.
I don't think PG67A/W would have given any super-powers to anyone. Wasn't it used to keep the virus within Wesker's body stable? As for the virus that gave Wesker his powers in the first place, that whole thing is kinda vague, and I'm assuming it wouldn't have worked on other than the "Wesker Children" or more specially, Wesker. If it did, why wouldn't they have used it to make more super-soldiers?
I have never seen Blade runner, even though I own the Director's cut on DVD. The reason for that is that I absolutely love the book it's based on "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep", and I don't want to see the movie since I'm afraid I would just be mad at it for not being the book, and mess with the image I have of the book. Philip K Dick is one of my favourite authors, and that book is one of my favourites from him. Others would be "A Scanner Darkly", "Clans of the Alphane Moon", and "The three stigmata of Palmer Eldritch".
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1.) Wesker may have been born human, but was shortly thereafter shorn of this by Spencer, who altered him genetically, and through indoctrination. He was NEVER, in reality, his own person, or even 'a complete bastard' (THAT takes volition), but an automoton (and perversly, a victim) of sorts ("You're just one of umbrella's leftovers!" )...finally gone out of control by the miscalculation (and consequent death) of Spencer.
2.) PG67 A/W is, as you say, a stabilizer for a virus, but how hard would it be to get the virus, if you have "all the information he [Wesker] had concerning the T-virus and other research" . The assumption that the virus and it's stabilizer would only work on Wesker is just that, an assumption. After all, Uroboros, the T-virus, and others were capable of 'working' on all six-odd billion of us. And even if this were so, recall Excella is a genetic engineer. It might take some work, but hey: no pain, no gain.
2.a.) You wouldn't use such a thing to make more supersoldiers because power is created and maintained by creating a standing differential between yourself and the social ecology around you. Hand that thing out like candy and you would only spawn a legion of competitors. It would be like Sauron mass-producing the 'One Ring of Power' (Think of Syndrome telling Mr. Incredible: "Yeah, I keep the best inventions for myself..." ) In giving someone else the authority to wield the royal hypodermic, it looks like Wesker got a little 'dumb' himself.
3.) RE is, in fact, FULL of complex characters. A notable example of this is Outbreak, in which there is a roster of eight possibilities to play, all carefully fleshed out (MAD love for Cindy 
4.) If you love Blade Runner, why NOT see the movie? I'm a Silent Hill fanatic and Christoph Gans movie put the sophisticated, relevant symbolism of those games through a blender, but that does nothing to detract from the excellent, nuanced work of Team Silent on the first four games. And there were, in fact, elements of the movie I found enjoyable. Philip K. Dick's work STAND ON IT'S OWN MERITS, regardless of subsequent interpretation. You used the word 'afraid' twice, which is baffling...if you have your own mind, what is there to fear in mere information?
5.) Since I'm not this way, curiosity compels me to ask: Why DO you like 'a complete bastard'?
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1) He might have been indoctrinated, genetically altered and manipulated by Spencer, but I wouldn't see him still as "not his own person". And even if he was a mere puppet without his own will at all (which I don't think is the case, it's not like Spencer directly controlled him and he had no brain functions on his own at all), I don't see how this would mean he can't be a bastard. As for how much Spencer actually controlled Wesky, he had a will of his own, and it's not like Spencer predicted and controlled his every move.
2)Yeah, it's just an assumption. Based mostly on the fact (which in fact might not be a fact) that Albert Wesker was the only one who survived the virus of the Wesker children. And while the T-virus and Uroboros can infect all humans, they are "succesfull" in only a very small percent of the populace. Only select few become tyrants or merge with Uroboros. Also, while you might not want to spread a powerful virus like that around, you could still use it in a select few, and control them like Spencer tried to control the Wesker children.
3) I haven't played Outbreaks. My favourite character in RE is Lisa Trevor. Her story is actually tragic, mostly owing to the way it's told through lab reports and letters. When the series tries to do drama, it often turns out silly or forced. (Like in the case of Steve and his dad)
4)My image of the characters would get "tainted" no matter how I would try to keep them separate. This is not necessarily a bad thing, though, and in fact my image of the characters and the events always changes when re-reading the book. But I'm afraid the movie would just make me depressed and angry, as many movie versions of my favourite books do. Sadness at the fact that the story is mistreated to get a action-packed shootfest out of it. I got that way for seeing Minority report, and that was based on a short story that was pretty simple and that I didn't that much care about.
It's not that I'm really afraid, just very reluctant.
5) In real life, things like good and evil are not simple, and in fact I really wouldn't even want to use labels like that. It's refreshing to escape sometimes to a world where it's simple and the bad guys wear black hats. There's also the matter of playing with evil, so to speak. To support and cheer for someone I would never like in real life. I like mad scientists in fiction in general, Wesker doesn't exactly fit in this character, but I can still see something of myself in him.
Also, while I prefer well-rounded characters with subtle motives and complex characterisation as the bad guys, that make you unsure of if they really are "evil", at least Wesky is not one of those baddies who go "I was totally traumatized because that evil dude killed my puppy, so now I'm going to destroy the world!", he lamented on the whole "humanity destroying the world" but at least he didn't turn into a pussy in the end.
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"oooOOOOps!" Bwaahahhaaahaaa... amazing!!!!
I REALLY like to see how Saddlers transforms back into his human shape! I always ask myself too how all "this" can fit into his body!
So...hes just gone with the wind! thats nice, coz it means that hes NOT dead!!!
Whos the person in the next to last panel ("Lord Saddler wait for me")?
And the merchant survives!YAY!!!!!!
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Actually, I'm currently making a comic where I answer the question how he goes back inside...
And it's Mendez there.
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