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Muarw — CS Buhaji
Published: 2007-07-05 10:13:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 313; Favourites: 2; Downloads: 8
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Art and concept belongs to meCharacter and concept belongs to :iconskyler-vane:
Resubmit of the piece using a proper scanner
Drawn on four pieces of A4 so details can be seen.
Panel one- fullbody nude view of Buhaji pre-dress up. She has long hairs over her fore and fetlocks that has not been braided up. Hands are hoovingers so more stumpy but flexible, right hand has black ridges on one finger, left hand as two black hoovingers. Left leg has layers of black and white hair. Mane with a fringe parted to the right, braided and flowing at nape of neck. Breasts are small and perky rather than the more oval shape of other older female unicoes. She has deep scaring over her left shoulder and arm, and some over her right shoulder. Stomach is shaved across leaving two bare patches in V shape.
Panel two- as a masseuse she has a traditional dress of a cloak slung over to cover her modesty and down her back. It is abit tattered with sewn on diamond motifs. Mane and tail braided for work, clasped with two rings each. Two styles of weaving for her arms and legs. Right arm has braided fur down the arm, while left arm has shorter braids over her hand.
Right hoof has straight braids weaved with gold, while left hoof has staggered black and white braids.
Right arm shows some light scaring on the skin as the hair is pulled up into tiny braids.
Panel 3- Backview showing braided mane and tail. She is shaved along the thighs and across her back. Cloak image and an image of the band which ties her mane and tail, attached with two solid rings.
Panel 4- a laughing close up shot, and of her striped tongue.
A demure look showing the mane fringe over her right eye.
comments: ah this was hard but completed within one and a half days. Next skylervane conception is niervaa which should prove much nicer.
And the cost of art materials have gone up!
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Dear Muarw;
I am going to be straightforward about my preferences as to the differences between your styling and depiction of Buhaji, versus that of Warwind's.
Overall, I do prefer Warwind's more pronounced and anthro-traditional physiology for the fema unicoes, but that may be due to both the inkover of her work and the scanning problems with yours. She did admit that inking her pencil linework over was a major improvement!
Overall, I prefer the more traditionally shaped skull physiology of Warwind's depictions, though I must say that the final headshot sketch you did looks like it is pretty close. For the most part, you seem to have depicted the curve of the jawline rather more flatly than I like, which is probably the visual factor which "overplays up" the aspect of her muzzle's length. Warwind's slightly shorter muzzle and rounder skull lines are probably better overall for more expressive emotions carried in the face. Don't you think?
I think I prefer the smaller ears of Warwind's version too, but to escape from the norm, I want to go with your fantasy/fairly-like styling of them. (Buhaji's ears can always be uncharacteristic of the species if I change my mind.)
I definitely prefer your styling of the horn. Yours is a little shorter/thinner, not curved quite so noticably and tends to be orientated closer to between her eyes. I will prefer a more pronounced spiral though, just so you know. Sort of like Warwind's in terms of definition, but the spirals should be more "bitten in" toward the center of the horn, so as to lend a more fragile look to it.
I cannot really tell by looking at these particular uploads, but you seem to have done well with all the braiding and physical embellishments concerning her coat. The sketch-by-sketch descriptions were very helpful, and I can definitely say that I like the sound of the creativity you have shown in reworking Buhaji a bit from your imagination(and possibly to your personal tastes?). I gave you your freedom in shaving Buhaji some - as I recall - and I like what you did there, too.
Her "small, perky" breasts are fine, but I do prefer Warwind's detailing of her nipples. My actual preference concerning the shape and lay of her breasts - between your depictions and Warwind's - falls to you, because yours appear to be more oval and strike me as "fuller" and yet less sexually appealing. I do like the styling of Warwind's a lot - but not for Buhaji and the fema unicoes - and I love upturned nipples.
I prefer the joint styling of Warwind's arms and the slightly, less-delicate look of yours. Also, Warwind almost had the paws/"hoovingers" dead on. I just want the fifth digit added - like I think you have incorperated(can't tell for sure) - and the ends of the "hoovingers" to have sensitive tips sticking out from inside the "hoovends".
The opposing styling of Buhaji's tail is interesting to consider. I think that Warwind's shorter, more traditional ears go well with your more traditional tail, and your fantasy styled ears with her fantasy styled tail! Does that make sense? Anyway, I prefer the shape of Warwind's tailbone - just because I can see hers - and the "placement" of yours(slightly lower down, between the buttocks). Your styling of the tail will serve fine with Warwind's, because hers can simply be shaved down, rather than full and natural to the fema unicoes.
The buttocks and thighs are an issue. Warwind's are more anthromorphically defined, while yours are more animalistic. I think I do want the wider buttocks and thighs traditional to horses - though I prefer the humanized depiction much more - only melded to the styling I favor of the aspect below . . .
Down from the buttocks and inner thighs to the hooves, I much prefer Warwind's physio styling of the legs; much more anthroized, I know, but a bit more uniquely defined. They just seem to be much more practical. I hate to sacrifice the more animalized look of the lower body, by I do visually prefer heavier humanization for this particular aspect.
I prefer Warwind's hooves overall, but yours appearently have greater "height", seeming to encase more of the "foot" up to the point of the ankle. Plus you have the "cloves" I requested, whereas Warwind does not. I want to preserve Warwind's ankle physiology and yet have the extra length of your hooves.
Concerning just your work, I prefer Buhaji's cloak be even more modest, as well as her genital covering. I figure she can still be "drop and give it to me" sexy without being so scantily clad. And I like the concept of the bands for her tail and mane, and the rings set in them to hold the braidings.
I like the detailing of her eyes in your two fullbody shots.
From what I can see, you have illustrated the shaved regions well and the braidings look like they will do.
The stripes of her tongue were actually meant to be a single ring of off-color near its tip, or a "racing stripe" orientated near its center. The "candystripe" effect just looks to wierd to me, and reminds me too much of the horn.
To finish, the exact look I prefer will yield to the convienience of The Project's comic illustrators when the time comes to turn out some of the comic in storyboards. My personal preferences are at the mercy of the skills I can hire or lure into helping with the Centriiost Project!
Honestly,
~ Skyler
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understood!
yup the biggest difference is the legs as i prefer the more animal oriented physiology than human for horses- unlike for feline anthros. also i wanted to emphasize the stockier characteristics for while warwind's slimmer depictions are pleasing to the human eye, other unicoes may be more attracted to the traditional mare xD
as for the head, they are more akin to the slimmer structure of lippizaners although there are horses with shorter features like the welsh cob.
the tail can be incorporated maybe braided tightly at the buttocks for about 10-20 cm and then left to flow similar to the mane, so as to preserve the thin look at the rump.
the horn is grooved although it might be difficult to see ^^''''
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Dear Muarw;
If you prefer different styles - more animal or human - for various anthros based on varying species, then perhaps you should select one or the other to work in(by default/standard) for your depictions of the Centriiost Project's characters. That will help the comic artists keep a specific style when it comes time for them to define a common drawing style for depicting all of the various anthro species.
[NOTE: I really don't think "attraction" in relation to the "traditional mare" physiological styling is to be seriously considered. The unicoe males are going to have to get the hots for the females of their kind, no matter how we decide their physiology shall be!]
Concerning the head, I have no problem with The Project's artists staying relatively true to the physiology differences for each of the real life subject breeds which I have based a phantasy "breed" on - the unicoes being a prime example. My main concern is having a head/jaw/face structure which is conducive to clearly defined and recognizable expressions. As long as you can style a character's physiology so that you can 'make them up'(with hair styling and embellishments) to look "hansom" or "beautiful" and have a wide range of facial expressions possible, then you and the other artists can do what you like with the physiology of a character's head.
[NOTE: I appreciate your research into the equine breeds!]
Your comment about the tail sounds good. I had a bit of difficulty comprehending just what you meant, at first. You mean you will "incorperate" the physiology of Warwind's tail to the braided styling of your own, right?
I believe you about the horn. It is IMPOSSIBLE to see!
Happily,
~ Skyler
P.S. I will extend you credit for this work, but offer a little less, because I would like a redo with the changes(as/however you understand them). Are you going to restyle Buhaji's CDSS with the changes? I can let it rest, but I will appreciate the "extra mile". If you are busy with other concept sketches, nevermind.
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about the tail- in warwind's depiction the tail has a stem which flows into the tail which looks awkward to me as horses generally don't have a tail bone as such. so to preserve that 'thin look' at the rump, we could instead braid that section tightly and allow it to flow below the buttocks similar to the mane style.
i would appreciate if you keep an account of the credit (as I'm sure you'll be doing anyway) and perhaps the others would also appreciate a monthly account send to them to see how much they are earning etc. feel free to deduct or add but include a brief explanation unless if we've already discussed such as in the case of buhaji then i understand why ^^. no problem about restyling her. how about i do a solo fullbody shot of her new physiology? but perhaps about a few other sketches like the niervaa. it depends, i need a new scanner because the current images looks unclear as you can see.
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I do believe that what you refer to as a "stem" is just the hairless upper part of the tailbone. The braiding idea sounds fine, but Warwind's version could be taken as the shaved and differently styled version of your own.
Not too thin in the rump. I don't mind Buhaji having a widish bottom.
The running account for each artist is in the "Artist Statis" journal entry.
Whenever you send the revision of Buhaji is fine.
Well wishes,
~ Skyler
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