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Published: 2008-04-19 08:33:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 20964; Favourites: 460; Downloads: 290
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Description I was looking for inspiration for something colourful to do in a graphic style for my AP portfolio and noticed =gutterface was having a contest. Voila!
You're amazing and I hope you like it~

It could have turned out better :c
But my portfolio works were due earlier today and I was rushed.
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Comments: 245

Maniacalpomegranates In reply to ??? [2011-06-01 11:29:52 +0000 UTC]

Um, you're the one who just kind of "blew up" right now. I didn't make a big fuss about anything. You're just swearing now~ My pointless "argument" is not pointless, it's not being rude or judgemental or anything. It''s plainly stating that sex and gender are too different things, and you have to treat them differently. It IS genitalia. THAT IS WHAT SEX IS. You cannot go changing things around just to suit you. GENDER is GENDER ROLE, and GENDER is HE and SHE. SEX has to do with FUCKING, YOU KNOW, SEX, ANAL, VAGINAL, ORAL SEX. YOU KIND OF NEED GENITALS TO HAVE SEX, THAT'S WHY WHETHER YOU'RE A MALE OR FEMALE, HAVE A PENIS OR VAGINA, IT'S YOUR SEX, NOT YOU'RE DAMNED GENDER ROLE. THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A GUY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A VAGINA. Making a mistake is not denying someone of what they want to be. People will see a picture of her for the first time and comment, and mistake her as a girl, because on the outside she is, and then it'll either be her clawing thier eyes out, or she'll send others to claw their eyes out. You have to realize that when people look at you, they can't see through you to the inside of you, and know if you're a guy or girl. They see the outside of you, and that tells absolutely nothing about ehat you're like. It's like a part of your personality, unless you wear it on a shirt for everyone to see, it's invisible.
But that isn't denying her of anything, she has what she wants, she's happy, she's said so in her videos of her being trans. But according to you, that thing she desperately wants is a dick. That's all you think being trans is? And YOU'RE trans? My good god, you're as confused as can be, aren't you? Don't worry, I took consuling for this. I was so friggin confused about everything, I thought I was going to just shut myself away forever. BUT THEN I UNDERSTOOD. You seem to think that everything I talk about is just coming from a random religion obsessed homophobia bitch, right? Yeah, WRONG. This was explained to me by TRANSEXUALS. or if you PREFER, TRANSGENDERED friends. They were at that point where they actually came to terms with themselvesand learned not to get pissed at people who didn't understand at first, and understood that what they were on the inside was different from what was on the outside, and there was no need to change that. They realized that their outward appearance didn't matter.

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Mihko In reply to Maniacalpomegranates [2011-06-02 00:24:12 +0000 UTC]

Under every one of his pictures, Joji says "this is not a girl", so it is completely reasonable for him to get mad. It's their fault they didn't read what was written there for people like them. I don't think all trans people want is "a dick", that's not what I said. Trans people want to be known as the gender that does not match the sex of their body, and for people to deny them of that is cruel. What are you doing, saying that the two aren't related and then going on to call Joji "she"? You're contradicting yourself so badly. Do you call your transgendered friends by their sex or gender pronouns? Because if you were my friend (God forbid) and you called me by my sex and not gender, I'd start to get pretty ticked off at you.
Besides, Joji's fashion is a broadcast of his personality. Don't tell me you'd look at his bright hair and ridiculous clothes and say "herp derp, I know nothing about how that person wants to be viewed". No, you look and say "Now there's someone with some balls, wearing that out in public". Fact is, shy people don't dress like that.

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Maniacalpomegranates In reply to Mihko [2011-06-02 01:04:52 +0000 UTC]

You don't even look at her pictures, do you? Or are you high most of the time, seeing invisible words everywhere? Half of her pictures say absolutely NOTHING about sex or gender. SHe has absolutely no reason to get pissed off when people make a mistake.
I am not contradicting myself at all. You said that to call someone by their gender is a polite, respectful and considerate thing to do. When I was justing starting dA, I saw a picture of hers on the front page and made the mistake of looking at it and commenting. It was something along the lines of "Oh, you're such a pretty girl, wish i was as pretty as you." and she absolutely BLEW UP on me, so did some of her watchers. It's scared me silly because I had no idea what I had done wrong, when someone told me that she was transgendered. No, she deserves absolutely no respect or consideration from me. I'm actually incredibly glad that I have good , respectable trans friends so I wouldn't have been biased against trans people. People I know that are kind and respectable, I will call by their gender, but some people don't deserve it. I'm not polite to people that aren't polite to me, I don't care who are what they are.
Okay, that last thing doesn't even make sense. How does someone's clothes tell you if they're transgendered or not?!? How do you look at a person and say, "oh, they look like a girl, but because they're wearing crazy clothes, they're probably either trans or gay." You sure are stereotypical and judgemental. There are many straight people who aren't trans that have confidence and want to be different, so they dress like her. Not all trans people are confident, you know.

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Mihko In reply to Maniacalpomegranates [2011-06-02 03:05:11 +0000 UTC]

I didn't say his clothes were what made it obvious that he's trans. I was saying that his clothes display a lot of his personality, so you can't say that you know nothing about a person if you just look at them. The outer appearance says it all if you look hard enough. I mean, come on. The flattened chest, scars all up and down his arms. Most people could put the pieces together.
And whoop-dee-doo for you, you got yelled at by people on the internet. It says all over his dA profile that he's a guy. Sure, not everyone knows that and you aren't expected to, but after the thousands of comments he must receive everyday that say "you're such a pretty girl" when he doesn't feel as if he's a girl at all are probably really annoying. Every one blows up sometimes, and Joji has more of an explanation because of his mental health. It isn't a huge deal, he's just sensitive about it. You didn't know that, and now you do.
And how does being impolite back help the situation? That's putting you on the same level as whoever you're P.O.'d at, doesn't it? It becomes increasingly difficult to be mean or cruel to someone who is nice and respectful and awesome to you, believe me. Wouldn't you rather get revenge that way?

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Maniacalpomegranates In reply to Mihko [2011-06-02 03:33:54 +0000 UTC]

SOmeone can dress in a gothic way and be extremely preppy and happy. Same as someone can dress all in pink and be the most antisocial, hateful person on the earth. There's no way to know anything about a person by their outward appearance. And anyways, there are a lot of women who don't develop quite like others. Even at that age they can have the body of a 12 year old boy. But all you're doing is judging what someone is like by their appearance. Like saying someone is a guy because they have a penis. You're contradicting yourself here.
xD So why are you even replying back? Whoop-dee-doo, people are calling a tranny by their sex and not gender. What pisses you off about that? Why do you feel you need to defend them?
Most people don't go to the page when they just want to look at a picture. It's an honest mistake, and there's no reason to think that someone is out to get you because of that. That just proves that she's too insecure about herself, and not confident after all.
SHe doesn't have an explosion only now and then, there are random kids out there who don't know anything about her and mistake her as a girl, and she will just claw their eyes out. Anyone with such poor mental health probably shouldn't be anywhere near people, real or just across the internet. God damn, everyone's sensitive about something, not everyone is a bitch like her though. Nothing admits her from being so rude and bitchy. Nothing at all. Dallas Harder gets tons of comments each day bashing him because he's gay. And yet he never fails to be polite. Gutterface probably gets tons of bashings too, I'm not saying that, but why take it out on people who never wronged her intentionally?
I'm not getting revenge, I really don't care, actually. I just don't give out respect to everyone. If someone doesn't deserve respect, i don't respect them. Easy as that. I mean, thus far, I have no reason not to respect you, so I'm not going to take "revenge" and start doing whatever to get you intentionally angry.

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Mihko In reply to Maniacalpomegranates [2011-06-02 04:57:33 +0000 UTC]

People tend to dress as they are or wish to be seen. Typically, not all the time it's true, but most typically.
And you know what? I'm kind of tired of talking to you. This is getting tiresome, and I'm obviously not going to change your mind. Maybe I should have picked my battles more wisely from the beginning, but that's my fault anyway do whatever. It's not even that I have nothing left to say. I do. You just won't listen/understand what I'm trying to say, so forget it. I'm tired of all this arguing and your comments are stretching out my browser to ridiculous levels. Have a nice life.
(PS, if this were a RAEGQUIT, you would no. I'm not swearing, all-caps'ing you, or anything else, so don't say it)

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Maniacalpomegranates In reply to Mihko [2011-06-02 23:43:57 +0000 UTC]

Wait a sec here....what were you trying to change my mind about? I don't remember disagreeing with you much. :/

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Mihko In reply to Maniacalpomegranates [2011-06-02 23:48:14 +0000 UTC]

Um, only a lot. But whatever. Oh, and I'm aware of the idiotic typo I made. "you would know"

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strawberrychans In reply to ??? [2008-05-14 01:20:41 +0000 UTC]

nice copypaste bitch.

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Neumorin In reply to ??? [2008-05-11 19:01:40 +0000 UTC]

I am aware of that, you're just being ridiculously immature.

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jeshopkinson In reply to Neumorin [2008-05-11 19:04:12 +0000 UTC]

Aware that she's a scammer?
I'm not being immature, I'm trying to protect other people.
:/

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Mihko In reply to jeshopkinson [2010-02-08 22:02:08 +0000 UTC]

HE

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-02 21:04:41 +0000 UTC]

SHE

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-02 22:25:46 +0000 UTC]




HE

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-03 06:41:04 +0000 UTC]

*SHE

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-03 21:59:43 +0000 UTC]

FFFFFFFFUCK YOU

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-04 00:37:24 +0000 UTC]

reported u >3

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-04 03:20:21 +0000 UTC]

what the hell?!

KAI IS A DUDE. WHY YOU BEING A BITCH ABOUT IT?

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-06 19:25:57 +0000 UTC]

ITS A GIRL SHUT UP, besides SHE dcoesnt even want to be a boy, its just for scamming .|.

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-06 19:30:10 +0000 UTC]

yeah, he scammed those people on den of angels or whatever. so what? it's their fault for being so gullible. and how can you scam by saying you're transgender? there is no clear benefit that i see.

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-07 21:56:08 +0000 UTC]

omg i cant belive you said its THEIR fault, so itso k to scam people? lol omg ur so stupid
gutterface is a SCAMMER AND SHE'S NOT TRYING TO BE A BOY, SHE JUST WANTS THE ATTENTION

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-08 23:59:42 +0000 UTC]

you know what? go die in a hole.

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-09 23:35:56 +0000 UTC]

and you go die, asshole .|.
you and that filthy lesbian

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-10 00:30:06 +0000 UTC]

fuck off. gays are people too. we have feelings.

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-11 12:37:01 +0000 UTC]

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT GAY PEOPLE U JACKASS

JUST DIE ALREADY

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Mihko In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-12 03:53:28 +0000 UTC]

YOU DID STUPID

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Kita-san In reply to Mihko [2010-03-13 20:17:54 +0000 UTC]

SHUT UP U FAGGOT

GO DIE U AND THAT UGLY BITCH GUTTERFACE .|.

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Neumorin In reply to jeshopkinson [2008-05-13 01:19:08 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't consider it scamming. Any obervant person with half a brain and a basic understanding of genderqueer would know that =gutterface isn't physically transgendered or biologically male.

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Arsenic-Spider In reply to Neumorin [2008-07-08 06:43:44 +0000 UTC]

The scamming in question has nothing to do with their gender. It's more to do with the fact they've stolen hundreds of dollars worth of stuff from supposed friends. They do this in one hobby, get caught out then move on to the next, please, read the links in this journal then make your mind up: [link]

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Neumorin In reply to Arsenic-Spider [2008-07-08 08:15:13 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see. That is really unfortunate.

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MakeShiftSoul In reply to jeshopkinson [2008-05-12 17:40:46 +0000 UTC]

No, I'm fairly certain by using sites like "encyclopedia dramatica" you're being pretty immature...

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Kita-san In reply to MakeShiftSoul [2010-03-04 00:37:07 +0000 UTC]

yeah yeah check out the other links <_<

SHE is a scammer

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MakeShiftSoul In reply to Kita-san [2010-03-04 07:31:59 +0000 UTC]

I am shocked and appalled that you would reply to a comment I made 2 years ago.

I think that alone makes your argument completely moot.

This is old. People will always have their opinions of HIM. Regardless of what he was born as, you should respect what HE chooses to be.

The issues with him are old, and he has apologized several times. Every mention of scamming people brought up is at least 2 years old.

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Kita-san In reply to MakeShiftSoul [2010-03-06 19:26:12 +0000 UTC]

she!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Khositas In reply to Kita-san [2011-08-04 19:18:24 +0000 UTC]

Ugh. Grow. The. Fuck. UP!

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strawberrychans In reply to MakeShiftSoul [2008-05-14 01:18:45 +0000 UTC]

damn straight

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MakeShiftSoul In reply to strawberrychans [2008-05-14 02:19:27 +0000 UTC]

Heh ^_^

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rottingapple In reply to ??? [2008-05-07 00:23:10 +0000 UTC]

cute :3

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KillerzInTheMorning In reply to ??? [2008-04-29 04:50:03 +0000 UTC]

so much color..... and awesomeness... O_o

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RazorDeRockefeller In reply to ??? [2008-04-24 04:16:52 +0000 UTC]

wow! very talented! good job!

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CorsetCorrode In reply to ??? [2008-04-24 02:19:24 +0000 UTC]

you captured f4c3b0t so well!

what's the concentration and medium of your ap portfolio? i'm taking it next year so i'm curious what others are doing.

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Drivingblind666 In reply to ??? [2008-04-22 22:54:05 +0000 UTC]

This is so pretty and colorful! I REALLY love that you chose to enter the contest. One of my favorite dA artists drawing one of my favorite dA models! How awesome is that?! lol

I love the colors in this. Very bright and just like her. Her hair and make-up is amazing. I like the Hello Kitty and Gloomy Bear that she has. Gloomy Bear is so awesome! I like how it is in tile pieces too. Lovely job! Congrates on winning! You deserved it!

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Mihko In reply to Drivingblind666 [2010-02-08 22:03:04 +0000 UTC]

HIM and HE

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Drivingblind666 In reply to Mihko [2010-02-09 00:06:02 +0000 UTC]

Gah I know. I didn't know that back then. Sorry!

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Mihko In reply to Drivingblind666 [2010-02-09 00:42:10 +0000 UTC]

i'm not mad. just saying.

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Drivingblind666 In reply to Mihko [2010-02-16 03:27:34 +0000 UTC]

Oh i know. I didn't take it wrong or anything.

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Mihko In reply to Drivingblind666 [2010-02-17 00:47:30 +0000 UTC]

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AmyWeaving In reply to Drivingblind666 [2008-09-07 23:18:15 +0000 UTC]

hahaha Hi sissy!

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Drivingblind666 In reply to AmyWeaving [2008-09-09 01:21:44 +0000 UTC]

Hey Amy! You are Neumorin/Gutterface fan as well?

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AmyWeaving In reply to Drivingblind666 [2008-09-09 19:56:13 +0000 UTC]

somewhat...I like "her" style but Ive heard some really stupid things about her.......so lets say yess! *hugs*

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