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Omnipotrent — Attack on Titan: he does have a heart in there
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"We sacrifice so much in the service of the walls, and the service of those behind them. I'd often thought that Rivaille had voluntarily given up what we think of as humanity for the cause because he loved it so much, he had to be cold to humanity so that he could protect it. It's a praise worthy ambition but it seems so heartless, and I'd often feared that Eren or Mikasa may fall into that after necessity pushed them. Or if I could grow so cold. But when I was going to visit Darius' grave stone...I saw him. I knew my answer, humanity can be so strong, that the faintest portion left over...can still make all the difference. He never asked me about seeing him there that day, and I never told anyone what I saw. Nothing changed other then my skepticism...and that's all I could ask for in times like these."~Armin Arlet
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I really do like how you did the graves and him kneeling.
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Thank you very much
I'd like to see this in the show if not manga
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This is why I like Levi the most for the time being. Of all the characters, he displays his emotions the best. Quietly (well except when he decided to kick Eren's ass pretty much), elegantly, and concisely. Not like most of the other character who over work themselves at the slightest cause for concern.
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He's the way he is cause he has to be to be as good as he is, or people he loves will die, he's come to terms with the world the best way he can.
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Those that suffer are not the dead but those they leave behind
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Poor Levi. Even if he didn't feel romantic towards Petra, he sure as hell cared about her the most and was aware of her feelings for him.
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Oh yes, I knew he just suppresses everything, but for good reason.
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Yeah. He is totally my favorite character. My favorite used to be Mikasa but lately she just bores me. She has like... nothing left inside her except her obsession with her foster brother.
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"Foster brother..." Riiiiiiight
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Yeah... Mikasa's crush on Eren is not something I approve of.
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Because siblings (blood or no blood) should not date. Just my opinion.
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It's more like, adopted friend really, she's not even strictly speaking an adopted sister so much as the girl that lives with them cause charity and why the hell wouldn't you
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It's different. Mikasa and Eren were still younglings (look how miniature they were~) when Mikasa was taken in. It doesn't take long to establish a sibling like relationship. I mean, Eren sure sees her as one (he even argues with her like one, telling her stuff like "You ain't the boss of me" and so on).
Plus, I'm little annoyed by Mikasa's obsession with Eren. I mean if Eren actually did turn his back on humanity and decided to be evil or something, Mikasa would follow him. It's upsetting. She has lost so much of her feeling and Eren is the only family she has left... and instead of the writers portraying that as a sad thing they are focused more on shoving down our throats that Mikasa loves Eren. One thing I don't like is when the female lead in the show is only there for the purpose of loving the main character. Instead of her to develop on her own, she is basically just Eren's stalker.
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I can see what you mean, however given her past, and that Eren is basically her only focal point to anything that makes sense anymore in the world, it's sort of understandable she make that him the embodiment of her concern, however she ISN'T only concerned about Eren, she wasn't going to let the Titan's have their way with citizens because gosh dang it she had an Eren Jeager to find, she was gonna frigging kill those cart guys who were gonna let the people die off to get their merchandise through.
I believe if Eren ever turned on Humanity, the real out come would be her trying to convince him desperately as she can the whole 9 yards to change his mind, and making sure NO ONE killed him till she got it through to him, so yes it's obsession, I don't think she's so Eren dependent it gets in the way of anything however. I like how she didn't distance herself from him when everyone did at the news of his titan form, and even as passionately as she didn't, it makes sense, she's seen first hand how Eren as a Titan is still the Eren she loves. Had she witnessed him eating people i assure you it would be different.
As for the whole sibling thing, Yes they were young, and yes, incredibly almost unstintingly mature for their age, being that Eren successfully killed two men, in a row, and was still full of resolve enough to belt out anime motivation at Mikasa. Her snapping like she did and doing the same inclines me to think that, while she is "quote unquote" adopted into the family, she's more of a "rescue" off the street, then a daughter in actuality, as well her relationship with Eren, she's had no siblings, and neither has he, she has no ties to how a sister should be and nor does he, they do know how to be each others friends for life, and it makes sense how that friendship would evolve into something more, and since her traumatic incident has more love ripped out of it then Eren's did over a longer period of time, I totally get why here affliction would escalate as the years got on.
Yes they live under the same roof, and yes is the "adopted daughter" but that's really just in term.
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Dude... Eren is one of those things that doesn't make sense in the world. As a kid he was a sociopath that stabbed two guys without flinching. A badass, but a sociopathic badass. So don't go on and describe that scene was romantic when it was really just frightening.
Again, as far as everyone that knows them (and Eren) is concerned, they are siblings. Of ocurse many are startig to notice Mikasa's feelings, it's still would be weird for Eren. He never has seen her as anything else and they keep calling eachother family. Yeah, I know she loves him in a not-so-sibling like way. You don't need to rant on it. I know all of that. Mikasa loves Eren. I won't deny it.
HOWEVER!
I still don't approve, and my approval doesn't change anything on the outcome of the series. That's just it. I mean in real life, that shit would just not work. Even for me. I knew this girl once and for the longest time I thought she was my cousin and that we were related. When I discovered we are actually not related in the slightest... I still don't have feelings for her. Despite her growing up to be very pretty, I just don't think of her in that way (despite my parents' constant pushing).
With Eren and Mikasa, it is a little different since they always knew they weren't blood related, but seriously. Mikasa called Eren's parents "mom and dad". To me that just tells me that they didn't just let her stay with them but took her in as their own. Eren openly accepted her as his sister and argues with her and protects her like a brother does his sister. Something that really makes Mikasa sad is that Eren may never love her the way she does him. Which is also why she really disliked Annie (even before learning the "truth"). She is actually well aware that she can't flirt with Eren freely. That is why she doesn't do it. That is why she can't admit to herself and out-loud that she loves him. Why? Because she KNOWS it'll be weird. She knows Eren sees her as his sister. She knows that it'll be just plain wrong. Eren himself is starting to be annoyed by how clingy she is.
In an alternate reality where Mikasa's parents didn't die and never was adopted by the Jeagars, she and Eren would probably have ended up getting married (that is if Eren would like the kind of girl she was before all that trauma).
On a different note, I said that Mikasa was losing her appeal to me not only because she has thing for step-sibling incest, but that there really isn't any development to her so far. In the beginning we saw her hidden depth (like the flashback or her tears of joy that Eren was alive) but other than that what we see is what we get. She acts impulsively whenever Eren is in peril (which has gotten her almost killed a couple times and got Levi's foot broken). When fighting Annie, all she could think about was "I won't let you have Eren" only to drive her jealousy factor down our throats just a little more. I mean she really has nothing to her character accept being Eren's slave. What really makes it annoying to me is that it is shown in a positive light. Her devotion to Eren is really unhealthy if you ask me but people see it as a good thing.
We get Armin and Jean learning to face their fears and actually become better squad leaders and strategists as time goes on. We see Eren constantly battling with his feelings. We see Levi show more and more hidden depth (just by looking at his expression). We see Annie showing more and more mystery to her character and motivations. As for Mikasa we get none of that. Her screen time consists with kicking titan ass (which is cool to watch) or thinking about Eren.
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I'm looking back and seeing where in the heck i painted their killing people as romantic, I stated that instance just to assert that yes, both were very mature for their age as you said, and yes, Eren's a good case A sociopath, one could say Levi is as well, just a different kind. It was like i said unsettlingly when they did what they did, i'm glad they did, in so far i'm glad neither of them died or were sold to a "perve in the inner wall" but that was still a bring you out of the moment part of the show that explained allot as to why those two children are as they are.
All I'm saying is, yes, her devotion to Eren borders on the obsessive, and you could argue it's perhaps unhealthy, but it's not hard to see where it comes from when you look at how they know each other. Any shred of normalcy she holds onto in this life is housed in Eren, and yes that love she has for him turned to affection, and from their to attraction in a way Eren is oblivious to because she, like Eren, is not strictly speaking stable, neither of them are. Mikasa houses the same rage and torrents of violent passion that Eren does, except she isn't rash and chooses to hone that into just keeping him around cause she knows that anything could rip him away just like it ripped away her family. Eren has no control, he's an uncontrolled explosion as opposed to Mikasa who's like a cannon.
Another thing is that, if you've watched any stretch length anime you'd know that Mikasa's inability to say how she feels about Eren is NOT cause they're "siblings" in any shape of form, but because it's anime, and they are known through out their own genre to have characters beat about the bush until they leave treads in the dirt about their relationship or feeling for each other, even when their circumstances nearly BEG for them to be thing, they will always have the typical Chris Redfield "I would never let anything happen to her, she's my.......*Dramatic stare* partner!"
Eren's quote unquote "annoyance" as it's put is a bit more him literally having no time to think about anything else other then his own pressing obsession of his own: the matter of titans in general. How he is one, how he wants to pathologically kill ALL of them, realizing that some of them are people too like he is, and just himself as being inadequate and helpless like he was when he saw his mom get bitten in two.
In all honesty if any other girl or any other person were clingy or not towards him i believe that he'd be just as removed and wierded out as he is with Mikasa because he has to much on his mind; titans and himself and his relation to them.
In honesty i find that a little pathetic myself, but again we're dealing with two very traumatized characters, so it stands to reason they'd have these ticks about them.
Both characters really stopped driving the show as much as they did before, and i'm more curious about the characters of Levi, Erwin and Annie really.
Armin's showing some stones....FINALLY and isn't sniveling any longer which is a comfort, he's at least useful now past the point of being the only one who thinks things through out of the 3 of them yet is so indecisive and inactive and so spineless that it doesn't even matter.
All i'm saying is the "Barrier" between Mikasa and Eren to keep them from being a thing is grounded in them both being anime characters that by contract cannot act on their actions for a number of season as the plot demands because anime, not because of any moral hick ups.
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So far in all the anime I've seen, when two characters are set up as romantic interests, at least one of them admits it to themselves eventually. Normally it's the girl (tsunderes in particular) that stop to think ad then realize they are in love with the hero. Some girls in anime like to make it so blatantly obvious and can't help but to throw themselves at the hero. In the hero's case, he normally admits it (either to himself or out loud) that he is in love with his love interest. Examples: Naruto, in their first episode together, Naruto establishes his crush on Sakura. Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, after some hinting at it and slowly realizing she's checking Ed out, she admits to herself she loves him and actually has loved him the whole time. History's Strongest Disciple, Kenichi outright falls for Miu in seconds and later on Miu admits to herself that she loves Kenichi. (So far the only ones together are Ed and Winry. I personally don't approve of Sakura and Naruto getting together because they are downright just not good for one another. Kenichi and Miu... I'm still waiting.)
Anyway, back to AoT. Eren isn't just ignoring her and oblivious because of his focus on the Titans. He is well aware that she is protective of him (and he is protective of her) but gets so annoyed by her constant attempts to hold him back and her speeches about how she will go where ever Eren goes. Everytime she says "Eren that's too dangerous" or "I go wherever you go" or "I don't care as long as I'm with you" he just looks at her angrily and tells her to give him some space and that she is not the boss of him and should stop treating him like a little kid. Typical things younger brother says when the older sibling is being overprotective.
As for Mikasa, I can totally see where she comes from... she should still let it go.
As for Armin, you are wrong sir. He so far has proven himself even more useful than Mikasa. Not only has he proven to be a great strategist, he is well aware that hard decisions must be made. One thing I can't stand is people complaining about how weak willed he is. That's the best part of his character, he is growing out of it right before our eyes. He is aware that sometimes he must let go of his innocence and humanity in order to get shit done. He's the one that came up withthe plan to catch Annie (and is the one that knew it was her), he is the one that motivated Eren out of his coma (twice), he was the one to think of a way for everyone to escape during the Titan attack (when they thought Eren was dead), and then there was his awesome speech. Like, Mikasa, he puts himself in danger to help Eren. Unlike Mikasa, he puts himself in danger to help people that aren't Eren. Then there's the episode when Annie is rampaging through the city and after giving Eren a motivational speech, he runs up and stares down Annie while challenging her (and you could see how scared he was while doing it, yet stood up to her none the less).
Yes he has a tendency to be indecisive but he is slowly getting out of that. In time he could surpass Levi and Erwin in deductive/strategic abilities... but never fighting. I don't think Armin can fight for shit.
Back to Eren and Mikasa. Look, I never said Eren didn't drive the plot anymore. He still does. There's still a lot of mysteries to be solved and Eren is tied to them. There is also his struggle with learning self control and learning that not everything can be under control. If anything, Mikasa and Eren switched. While Eren started out just going into action without thinking, recently he normally thinks before acting (though sometimes he thinks a little too much and then acts too late) while Mikasa seems to just jump right in and almost get killed only to be saved by Eren or Levi.
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I'm not saying he's remained weak, I'm actually very impressed with how he's grown, and glad that he's become "useful" at last by putting his strategist mind to use, like Jean has had too. Before then however, he was very much a mouse of a man, who when he was beating himself up for choking during Eren's supposed "Death by gobbling up", he had every right to, the guy needed initiative, he needed drive. Everyone was scared, everyone was in panic, he was sniveling, hell even Jean who repeatedly talks about how he'd rather have a "cushy and safe job" acted with more stones then he did until Eren's death and return snapped him out of it, (thank god). And slowly but surely he's been finally utilizing himself instead of being the voice of reason that accomplishes nothing. Now he's finally calling out Annie, being recognized by Levi and Erwin who never put their foot forward on anything unless they can trust it, meaning that Armin's good stock.
Also the comment about how Mikasa doesn't put herself in danger for others is bosh, she does and has, it's just Eren like any loved one is always in the forefront of her mind, she's never let someone die, Armin has, Eren in fact...after he saved him.
I said he was the one out of the three main children who actually think things through and good thing to, however before then, coward didn't cover it. I just hope we see him shed his skin even more as the show progresses and it seems like it will based on how they've handled him because he's a great case in bravery showing how he's the one who's always terrified but constantly follows his friends into danger, but...at the end of day, just following them into it period won't cut it because you'll just be one more person to worry about with nothing to contribute; EVEN THOUGH, he contributes a good deal now, and it's about time.
I'll dig my heels and say that while those speeches annoy Eren, it is cause he's focused on Titans. Duh he notices she cares for him, but doesn't see anything beyond "we're close childhood over protective friends" because he is a very "I go in swinging, with nothing to lose and all of you to kill!" minded, and with Mikasa or Armin there, he can't do that as well. Yes he always does, he can't help himself, but he does care about if she's hurt too so the fact that she'd follow him anywhere if anything just gets under his skin cause he'll always be drawn to the fight and danger and death and that inevitably means taking her with him, at the same time he knows she's as steadfast as he is, so he always finds himself in the annoying bind of not being able to say no, but wishing that she would say no so he can do it with a clear head and conscience. He'd love to be able to just fight and know that everyone's safe at home and not have to think about anything but the fight and his vengeance. It's very self destructive and people who care about you always get in the way of that.
Mikasa should get her head in the game, and letting it go would definitely uncomplicate things. Would it be objectively wrong to not get over it? Not really, I'd honestly like it if Eren got over his internal issues himself and stopped choking titan or no titan, that's what's getting people killed. Her rashness at chasing after Annie for Eren was more her not wanting to lose him then Jealousy, I can't see how she could be thinking "Oh i hope Eren doesn't prefer the female titan over me." But being able to come off her super sayin "Must save Eren" high would've kept her from having to be saved by Levi, so that is valid.
And yeah they both drive the story, but it's gotten to the point where it's like how Sasuke and Naruto drive Naruto....but really who finds them more interesting then the side characters? Their motivations and passions, hold great precedence over where the show goes...but is not nearly the most interesting plot point of the show.
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I'm sure we'll get more Armin. Especially in the anime, it seems to favor him.
And yeah, Mikasa should get over Eren. Until she stops her clingy and smothering nature, Eren will never see her as a lover. You know why he fell in love with Annie and not her? Because Annie seemed (emphasis on the seemed) a lot more independant, and... well, Eren could see (or thought he saw) more depth in Annie and felt that they had more in common that what appeared (though what they had in common turned out not to be what he expected). Eren has nothing in common with Mikasa except for the will to survive (even though Mikasa nearly threw that all away when she thought Eren died... if Eren was around to see that he'd slap her). To be frank, Mikasa is in a bit of a bind here. Eren does not like her clingy nature (no guys like a clingy girl) but if she were to back off, then Eren would probably never notice her feelings for him.
As for why Eren gets annoyed by Mikasa, yeah you are right. None of what you said contradicts my statement before. However, he has no qualms with Armin's words of wisdom and willingness to come with him. Sort of reminds me of the "no girls allowed" thing. Me and my friend used to refuse to let his sister come with us when we were planning something.
Okay so in short... I just don't like it. Again, they are adopted siblings. They even acknowledge that fact to themselves. They are family and it wouldn't kill the anime industry to just let two characters of the opposite sex just be family and nothing more.
And as for Sasuke and Naruto... I disagree. I always found Sasuke to be the most interesting character in the series. Anyone else that seemed more interesting than him was someone tied to him (and was evil). But that is a whole nother debate.
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I still don't understand how there's anything like an attraction between Annie and him, where in the heck is this coming from?
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It was pretty obvious he had a crush on Annie (though never outright stated). It has the pretty cliche set-up for when a main character meets his love interest. On Annie's end I don't think she liked Eren. Eventually Mikasa outright says Eren has feelings for Annie and that's why he was holding back on her when she attacked. Eren looks at her in dismay but can't bring himself to deny it.
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I bet Levi just has a lot on his mind, perhaps he just tries to leave emotion behind as he thinks that it will get in his way?
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Totally, and he hardens himself to be able to do what is necessary
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Yeah, he even gets over his issue with cleanliness to grab his dying comrades hands. I believe he is harsh and cold because he has to be, I would feel the same way in his shoes against those monsters.
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Certainly, i mean even the brutality he has against Eren, and the seeming to not care whether comrades live or die, it's all so that he can stay in the iron trap state of mind that it takes to be the best.
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I have a character kind of like that, but he sort of has a tragic past. He hides his emotions and tries to forget about his past so he can continue with his work as a leader in an army. He is sort of an iron woobie if you will.
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Do you like avatar the last air bender?
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The original show yes, the movie? No...
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The movie is a bastardization
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Agreed, I feel sorry for setting foot in the theater during the time. Most movie adaptations are horrible, but this one was particularly nauseating.
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ANYWAY my point is, the show, how do you feel about fan pairings of various characters?
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I never was one into fan pairings of that show so I would not know, I do like how was motherly and friendly to Ang.
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My question is because
I have a fanfiction of Avatar Last air bender, and in it is a character likened to the Levi-ish one you described.
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I see, well there is quite a few examples of the stoic and serious anime male archetype from what I gathered. I am into the Sonic fandom myself, but in my fanverse there is a need for such archetypes as my stories revolve around war and many of my characters fight for their lives daily.
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My opinion is, you have Shadow and Espio and then that's enough.
But the reason I asked about the Avatar Last Air Bender is because I try to make pairings that can actually work, make sense, and have them make sense as opposed to "omg they look cute together so i ship them!" So I actually decided to tackle the pairing of Aang and Ty Lee
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Yeah, but I like to go into expanded universe, for instance most of my cast is from the anti-world/
I see, I never was into forcefully paring canon characters. I am not that much into romance in my stories.
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The expanded universes can be good, BUT i've found them to be...well, very hectic, and its very easy to lose characters in the literal multi colored torrent of OC's that all look the same after a while and have the same sort of archetyperal backgrounds.
I dislike forcing characters into each others interests myself, which is why the story is simply an alteration, a "what if this character met this character instead of this one." and just demonstrate how if things ran their course, what would be the result..
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I agree There are many characters that are cliche and do not have proper backgrounds. Yet there are also fan characters that are interesting and complex as well. I do admit that I myself have hedgehogs, cats, monkey, spiders, and foxes, but I also have other animal types such as: Galagos, dogs, ants, Ravens, mice, rats, a plasma alien called Phaze, and many more then just the run of the mill characters. It is all how you design a characters back-story. (If you are into violent war stories and super hero vs supervillians you might be interested.)
Ah, that reminds me of the ship war between Sally and Amy, only both versions have people flaming each other over these two characters.
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It's all about making them unique and intriguing enough to be beyond the gimick of "It's a different animal! Omg!" But yes there are some that are actually quite well done, I'm sure yours are some of these.
Sally and Amy....? Flaming? Whatta ya mean?
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Agreed, do you know of the Legion of Doom? (I see you are a DC fan.)
Some fans want Sonic to be with Amy, some say Sally is not cannon. Some people want him to be with Sally, they say Amy is a bad character. I am in the middle who thinks Amy is a nice support character, but Sonic should be left alone.
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I think i'll answer that with this pic i made
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I agree that until further noticed, he should be left alone, HOWEVER....believe it, or not...I believe he makes the most sense with Blaze, and I have my reasons
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Opps, I meant the Secret Society of Supervillains from the Animated JLA series and into JLU,(I like the Legion of Doom as well.) See I have a sort of Secret Society if you will called the AMA, and the AMA are soldiers from the anti-world. Because most of my audience care about the anti-versions rather then the actual heroes I tell my stories from a villains perspective.
There is the normal army: dancingwithphoenix.deviantart.… , aceofspeed94.deviantart.com/ar… , aceofspeed94.deviantart.com/ar… ,(with a few characters in the army.) Then is their leaders:
A giant yellow size changing kitty cat: ila-mae.deviantart.com/art/Gic… (She speaks in third person like Bizarro, but she does not have that derp accent.)
Her younger nine year old brother: viennacalling92.deviantart.com…
Her best friend who is a cyrokinetic tribal hedgehog commander and infiltrator: lizardman22.deviantart.com/art…
And their leader,(Grief and Gicandice's father, ) who is a psychic fox who used to be a special ed teacher: mathaeuz.deviantart.com/art/Re…
Oh and his psychic special forces "students": lizardman22.deviantart.com/art…
I see, I like Blaze. Yet some people see her as a mary sue. *Shrugs.*
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