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If I recall correctly, it was ~snowiki who gave me the text at the bottom of this. I improvised a graphical illustration above it
YOUTUBE DOCUMENTARY ABOUT HOW FUCKED THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IS: [link]
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Yeah as a kid, it kind of sucks. Nothing much you can do other than your best to survive it until adulthood. When you're an adult, you have much more power to change things for the better. The ironic problem however, is that by the time someone is 18 they've just spent 18 years being used to being a kid. There is nothing that can or will teach you how to be an adult. So most adults go through their life acting like perpetual children and refusing to see the power they have, no matter how many people try to show them that they have it. So all I can suggest is have faith in yourself so that when you're an adult you will be willing to see the power you have and learn to use it to create positive change. Because there will be so much discouragement in this from the world. So many people trying to tell you that you can't and that it is impossible. Don't ever listen to that bullshit. Sure, you'll make mistakes but you'll learn from them. You'll gain knowledge and wisdom through trial and error. But don't ever let the hate of the haters pull you down. You are more powerful than you know
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Β What public school in the US has an actual dress code? As long as a kid doesn't wear a shirt that supports Jesus, anything basically goes!
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Public schools have a dress code, just not a super strict one. Private schools have a super strict one. I'd know about that. If a school exists with no dress code what so ever -- I'd like to know about it so that I can ask if people can attend half naked with pink and green mohawks.
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In Latvia no schools has any uniforms, only thing banned is makeup. Only some private schools has dress code. Can have mow hawk can wear pink, but not naked
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Well, most schools in the world use the Prussian model. To the admission of the people who created the Prussian model, the goal is to strip critical thinking from the masses, under the assumption that the masses are not responsible enough to be capable of thinking critically. This however is a dichotomy and it is like saying that because some people can't walk, no one else should be allowed to, either.
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How is this relevant?
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I don't know how to be more clear than I am already being. So I'm unable to answer your question by default of the fact that from my perspective, I already have answered it.
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If you compare school to prison, then you just had a hard time. We all did.
The only thing I truly hated about school is other students.
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We all had a hard time. I compare school to prison because its origins in neo-nazism are historical fact, and not facts the educational system is quick to advertise, for obvious reasons. But this is something one must either research for themselves, or to choose not to. One must do their own homework as it were.
Its inconvenient information, so I don't fault anyone for having a reaction of "you're crazy, i'm not going to waste my time looking into that, because I already know its BS". Its an understandable denial mechanism that I receive a lot. No one WANTS that sort of thing to be true. I don't blame anyone who reacts as if I just threw a rattle snake in their face, because at least metaphorically speaking -- thats exactly what I did.
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I agree with you so much on this.Β Β Β Β
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You forgot
. Crowded cafeterias with bad food
. A courtyard The schools call it a playground
. A library
.Β buses that look the sameΒ
. Numbers for every Prisoner/StudentΒ
. Solitary confinementΒ
. and Bullies
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Well, I was just keeping the idea simple. You could write an entire encyclopedia on how school and prison are alike. You could also compare all of those things to:Β so-called principles of adult responsibility, how the main stream media operates, the foundation of economics and business, as well as how satanic cults recruit and retain their members. Besides, the difference between a religion and a cult is how much real estate is owned.
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I wish i could stay in school. What will come after is just worse.
no idea how i got here.
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Every human has their own unique perceptions of reality, because thats just how the human brain works. We are brain washed by school to think that there is only ONE perception, but that is even scientifically inaccurate, much less ideologically or in any other way.
I'll over simplify for the sake of not making your brain implode on a tsunami of technical detail, but lets take a very basic look at how a human being perceives reality. The sense organs of the body intercept feedback from the external environment. Sight, sound and all that good stuff. At this point, this is nothing but biological computer hardware intercepting electrical signals. Everything is literally made of light, because energy is light and everything is made of energy. Atoms. Sound. Tables. Chairs. You and me. Its all light. All different expressions of energy. Science fact.
So this form of energy we refer to as "the 5 senses" is intercepted by our biological computer hardware, the electrical impulse data is carried through our biological wiring system, an eletro-chemical central nervous system. The brain then decodes all of this mess of electrical crap into what we humans call "reality".
School does not teach us literally and absolutely what things are and how things work, they teach us the societally indoctrinated forced perspective view of what things supposedly are and how things supposedly work. Because all we humans can do, is make an observation and then express what this observation means to us, from our own unique point of view.
Lets take fire as a simple example. We see fire, its bright. We see it can burn stuff. It can be weaponized. It can be used to cook things. It can be used to create electricity, and so on. However -- our experience of fire will be directly determined by our belief systems we have been indoctrinated with about fire and thus, our understanding of fire will either be expanded by, or limited by, those belief systems.
So when primitive humans had a fear-based belief system about fire, they saw fire as some sort of dangerous weapon of the gods. Or a manifestation of some demon or whatever else. They viewed it as evil and destructive. This was their reality according to what they believed about fire. If you could go back in time and try to tell them that you can use fire to make pretty fireworks, or cook with fire, or heat your home with fire, or create electricity with fire -- they would not believe you. If you tried to give them a demonstration of how fire can be used in positive and controlled ways, they would just think you were a minion of the "fire devil" and kill you.
So when you say "things are bad and can only get worse" this is merely a belief system we all are indoctrinated with, at first. We assume that because we have all of these wonderful technological toys in the 21st Century, that this somehow makes us wise and enlightened. It makes us think that there is no way that we could succumb to primitive belief systems such as ancient tribal primitives held. So we view humans acting ignorant and destructive and just like the primitives looking at fire, we say "well, this is how it is, how it always was, how it always will be, and so -- we are screwed". Not true. This is merely a belief system. Of course when we take belief systems like this and put them into action then yes, we do in fact screw ourselves as a result. However, this is our choice as individuals. If we are not open to new data that we are not used to and not yet familiar with, then we are not thinking critically. A lack of critical thinking has the equivalent effect of a frontal lobotomy. Where as a lack of critical thinking can be rectified through a willingness to change, a physical frontal lobotomy of course can not be reversed.
So if you're willing to think critically, use imagination, use creativity and rise above the indoctrination of societal programming -- then you will discover and create new methods for yourself to be able to adapt and thus you will not be completely screwed. If however you choose to believe that being screwed is the only real reality, then you're fucked.
So are you "absolutely" screwed? No. Are you if you absolutely insist you must be? Yes.
Free will. Its a tricky bitch, isn't it?
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too long to read. Keep it real those speeches are totally pointless.
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Then you're on the wrong deviantART profile. Real means authentic. Real doesn't mean telling the other person what you think they wanna hear. Thats called being a poser. Those "speeches" are what is called actual conversation. Whats lame and pointless is those gay one-liners people use because they are too lazy to think beyond 15 words within a 5 minute span of time. If you don't want conversation, don't post in a forum. And if you don't want intelligent conversation, then don't talk to me. I'll only bore and annoy you.
Does that translate better for you?
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You are redefining words to support your views while ignoring the obvious. That's most of what you do along with analogies to explain the most simplest stuff, to show everyone how smart you are. Spoonfeeding etc, just as worse as the poeple you complain about. Save the hour to write a reply i blocked you to protect yourself from your own pointless anger
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I think that's 'cause in prison they impose what the men don't learn in school.
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Probably more like because the people whom we allow to control society are a bunch of psychopathic control freaks so addicted to power that they want to keep everyone else down by running their lives.
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Man... Where you live? kkkkk
I mean, I'm from Brazil, and here is just like... "do whatever you want, except stealing politics and destroying public property." They do everything to keep us quiet and satisfied... but it's not so easy. ^^'
If you don't like the government, just rebel, man.
Well, you can go to other coutry.
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I live in the USA.
It is not as simple as "just rebel, man". That idea is a lie we are told.
So lets say you rebel, what then?
There must be some sort of thing to fill the void that is created.
This is why todays revolutionaries are always the tyrants of tomorrow.
We want to be free and independent and yes, this is valid. This is fine.
But it is like wanting to drive a car. We first need to learn how.
Put someone in a car who has no clue how to drive it and what happens?
People get hurt, killed. Property destroyed. Chaos.
People need to first want to choose to learn to be free, before they can ever have the freedom.
Otherwise, you kick out the dictators and then, so what?
At least the dictator knew how to keep some form of order.
Now he is replaced with people who have no clue and there is more destruction and chaos than ever.
Adulthood has become a state of perpetual adolescence. We are all like 2 year olds.
We want everything now now now now.
Are we willing to learn how? Hell no. We want it all done for us, like a baby crying for a diaper change.
We want to "go do" without first learning how to "go do".
So yes, the schools and governments are controlled by those who have no clue about freedom.
But, because these are who teaches us how to be and what life supposedly is. ..
We have even LESS of a clue, than they do.
And just as our teachers are unwilling to learn, we are even less willing to learn.
And so we see learning as the enemy, simply because we hate school.
We are taught that school is the only means of learning, which is not true.
Humans learn every second of every day whether they like it or not.
If you are alive and observing the world around you, it teaches you as you observe it.
Mark Twain said "history never repeats, but it does rhyme".
This is true.
So to learn something different than what we have been taught, first there must be a willingness.
And then we have to ask ourselves questions. Lots and lots of them. And explore things inside of ourselves.
This is called CRITICAL THINKING. Its what school DOES NOT teach.
We are born knowing how. It is the main thing that separates us from the animals.
We have a more advanced frontal lobe.
But society tells us "no no no don't use it! just be an animal!"
Be willing to explore outside of the box you know as reality, otherwise no matter what you do, you will always create more of the same. And why not? That is all you have been taught. All WE ALL have been taught.
No matter what you do inside of a box, you are still in the box.
It is the box we want to get rid of, but its also all we have been taught reality is.
So everything done in the box is doomed to fail. Rebellions, or anything else.
So we have to be willing to explore outside of the box.
You see what I mean?
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I do, and I totally agree.
But I think that is not that simple like thinking outside the box or "society" tell us to don't use critical thinking.
Critical thinking, alone, often disturbs and obscures what is really in front of us. WeΒ need wisdom to guide us, and it's not the school that teaches one to be wise, is ourselves, our experiencesΒ and our willpower.
See, you say you do not learn critical thinking in school, and you think critically. It means that you do not need the school to teach you that.
I like to think of the world as an amazing balance. The 'good' is on one side and 'evil' on the other. I like to believe in Yin Yang. There is no good without evil, and that goes for everything.
There is no beauty without ugliness, no freedom without slavery, no joy without sadness. It may seem sad, perhaps even cruel. But it's the true, that's how the world works.
The world has always been unfair, and it is our fault. The man in the big chair behind the expensiveΒ table is always too selfish to look at your subordinate and be apprehensive.
We need to be happy, and do as much as possible to achieve that common goal. A few dedicate their lives to improving the world, others devote life for their Family. This is the challenge of living. I mean... take a look on Denmark, it's na amazing country to live, the corruption there is almost zero. And the rate of suicidal there is insane! Isn't only the government, there's a few things more than that.
As a basic and safe example: I'm Brazilian and here, no school (or joint family or government) encourages us to grow in life. People are born, grow and die with a minimum wage, living in a rented house and being in a constant financial problem. And the middle class people! The poor ones (that's the biggest part of population) lives in the camp, without a house, a car, a bus. Without even a bad school, that at least teaches how to read and write. For the middle class, the infrastructure is terrible, even in the big cities, public transport and education too. 90% of the population can not afford to use private means, and I am part of those 90%.
My government, theΒ school here in my country, teaches to accept, and offer this as a way to go. The population must accept or reject this path, and I chose not to accept.Β It is an option I have, is called free will. Everybody can "rebel" againt th idea they impose, and "rebel" is not breaking everything and set fire to buses. The best way to rebel is to use the government to reachΒ our goal. It is difficult, but not impossible.
The world is not perfect and never will be, and all we can do is our part. If I have consciousness of my values ββand my truths, then I have a lifestyle to follow, irrespective of a government or a school.
I chose to give my family a good life, and I will do so by existing ways, and with patience and balance. Those who choose to make the world a better place for future generations, have to do with patience and balance, which does not mean sitting waiting and neither breaking out everything.
My critical thinking is mine and mine alone. Just as my values ββand my morals. Are things nobody teach me, and neither should teach. No one should put in mind of a child the "right" thinking, so even if this is true right way. Each one has their learning pace about life, and no one should interfere with that.
Guilt is not the school or the lack of critical thinking. Blame the selfishness and vanity, which blind the "masters of the world", to make them think they are really important, but actually are not anyone, and they will die like everyone else.
Maybe I have difficulty to communicate, my native language is Portuguese. My country is trying to teach me to be satisfied with my homeland and my native language. But here I am with English and Spanish on the back.
They do not know anything, we know.
See how interesting? Different points of view.
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The obvious hides in plain sight.
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Brother you and I aren't much different. The only way we the people to stop this oppression of our children, is Β to stand up and fight back!!!!
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Here are a couple things I have made which you can spread around, which I feel you will find to be useful tools for your endeavours in this area.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp_DeBβ¦
paradigm-shifting.deviantart.cβ¦
Though I've made much more than these, I just don't feel information overload would be helpful to you
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I am the only student in my damn school who knows that were being treated inmate yet I have no support from my fellow "inmates/classmate". Ironic to see an successful adult who pity us yet acknowledge the cause.
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There are lots of youtube videos out there which prove and clarify these points far better than you or I could. I would suggest downloading them using tools such as video downloadhelper, etc ... and creating a video dvd iso file with this data on it.
Then burn copies of the DVDs.
If you try to hand them out to people, they will be rejected because they will see it as a force of will and their minds will be closed. So you need to appeal to their curiosity. Every kid loves that feeling of having found some sort of treasure or "lost item".
So what you could do is simply write "private shit don't fuck with this" on each disc and then when you know that no one is looking, drop it somewhere on a hallway floor, or in a bathroom, or on a lawn, or somewhere where it makes it seem as if the disc was lost by accident. this will guarantee that someone will grab it up and pop it into their computer and explore the thing.
Their friends will also want to know what is on the disc. Inevitably, copies will be made.
You have to make it seem as if they found something that was lost by accident, or else they will automatically reject it if you try to hand it to them saying "you really need to watch this".
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When I was in high school you were allowed outside contact and alls from outside. But most people, me included, would have rather been in Jail then in high school.
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My high school did me a valuable public service: they prevented me from going into 11th Grade. When I went to get my "work papers", the secretary; no longer being "required to present herself using fake pleasantries" -- in an attempt to be demeaning said to me when I explained my removal from the system "thats probably all for the best".
No longer needing to fear any consequences, I screamed at her "HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU FIGURE THAT?!".
She was quite stunned because she was used to the Dave who "was always the good kid, always obeyed, never did anything wrong, yada yada" so to suddenly see me go from the polite version of myself to the "raging asshole" that suddenly manifested in front of her: she really didn't know what to think about that one. So her and I did not say one word to each other after that came out of my mouth and I've not seen the bitch since.
When I say my high school did me a valuable public service, I am being quite literal and in no way sarcastic. Little did I know at the time and little will that secretary probably know EVER -- that the words thrust forth from her fucking ignorant pie hole actually were extremely WISE.
I was given the gift of being able to seek out my own education online for what would have been the remaining 2 years of my high school propaganda indoctrination and have been continuing to educate myself ever since.
I went from the scared child locked in self-victimization to the self-educated, independent, free-thinking and self-employed person I am today. I am quite happy not being locked into the societal enslavement and the gears of the machine, with few exceptions -- have little hold on me what so ever.
I mean this in such a way as "anyone can do this if they are willing to paradigm shift" and by no means am "patting myself on the back" but yes: I have learned to use Quantum Physics to create my desired reality. Yes, I do see opportunity instead of burden. Yes, even in the seemingly-most-shitty of situations as well. I have been learning to lose control (not in a chaos way, i simply mean shutting down my "inner control freak" which can make bullshit assumptions and trip me up), surrendering to synchronicity (again, i mean this simply as "not micromanaging the universe" and focusing on doing MY JOB and not overloading myself by carrying extra emotional [or any other type] baggage that would weigh me down and have me being too hard on myself) and seeing value in all things.
To see life as an adventure, not a struggle. To see new as exciting. Different as unique. Change as a good thing and everyone, as equals to me.
So THANK YOU high school HELL for "kicking me out of the nest" so that I could LEARN TO FLY!
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Well said there
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I totally agree! I got mixed up with a neo-nazi and was almost thrown in jail. I didn't cause the school was saying I stalked the girl but I had proof of the nights I did "stalk her" I was in Las Vegas (ticket stubs from shows). She then threatened to get me kicked out. That threat was the ONLY smart thing she ever told me. I went into homeschool. Learned more then I would have in public school and finished school a month early.
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Indeed. You are quite wise and fools like that idiot girl sometimes provide wisdom completely by accident
I know you are very intelligent and I think very highly of you. I am a huge fan of irony so with that said, the irony of why we do not talk much is because I think so highly of you. lol. Though that statement might seem like nonsense at first, lets expand on it so that it doesn't seem like some crack high inspired piece of nonsensicalness randomness.
I have always felt that it would be quite refreshing to be able to have all sorts of philosophical and meaningful conversations with you. Your insights are deep. You are wise beyond your years. You are intelligent. The problem is, every time I have engaged you in such conversations, I get shut down quicker than a Windows Machine with a spyware infection!
I do not wish to infringe upon your rights. I don't intend to come off as seeming pushy. I don't want to be any sort of burden on you. Your life is happy and I am happy for you. It is a peace I would not want to disrupt. I want you to continue being happy and I wish only that things continue to get better
You take me the wrong way more often than not and you push away in a polite and subtle fashion. This tends to make me feel a bit guilty that I even attempted to try for a conversation. I got tired of face palming myself and I just do not desire to be an interference in your life. I don't feel I have the right to be. You don't deserve that from anyone. What you deserve, is to be happy.
So whatever silly fun we might have been able to have, whatever philosophical depths we might have been able to reach and whatever wisdoms we might have been able to share and exchange ... I have simply been forced to respect the fact that you do not seem to wish to venture there. You've been fucked over by more guys than anything. You don't trust them. You don't open up easily. And sadly, the sorts of conversations I speak of require opening up. They can't be discussed any other way. Mundane and irrelevant things of course do not require opening up. People outwardly have no issues discussing that stuff all the time. Who won the football game. The next episode of America's Top Model. Blah blah blah. lol
I've even tried to share documentary videos and things with you in the past but you seemed largely uninterested. I figured if you could see that my mind was open and my intentions genuine, perhaps you would relax. I know it can be difficult for you to relax with males you do not know so well. I don't blame you for anything and I do not fault you for anything.
Besides, I don't think you realize that such fear blocks are crippling your abilities for discernment and the reasons why you might not see it are also ironic because they are quite opposite of most other girls reasons. You have no incentive to see it because you are happy. You have a good life now. A finance who loves you. You are content with the friends you already have. Most girls would envy you.
So I am forced to observe and admit to myself "okay, so she might not see that she is limiting herself. so what? i mean, the only reason i feel sad when females limit themselves is because in doing so, they put themselves in a state of blind misery. mickey is not miserable. she is happy! i am happy for her! this is what is most important. so as long as she is happy, truly happy -- then really, nothing else matters. absolutely nothing else matters. so i'm just gonna shut up and be happy for her. because being happy for her is all i really want in the first place. anything else, is secondary"
So as a result of these limits you might not be aware of, it has kept us from friendship. But you know, thats alright. Sure, it means I won't get the pleasure of those philosophical conversations with you, but: to see this as a bad thing, would be selfish of me.
The thing that has kept us from those conversations of course, has nothing to do with time or schedules. I mean, we exchange comments on dA. There is nothing stopping us from the act of communication itself. You are talking, I am talking. Here we are. But I can only go so deep without triggering your apprehension.
So we're stuck with a more shallow pool of thought, to use a metaphor
But I am happy that you are self educated and I welcome you to use my Educational Channel on YouTube as a resource for yourself, should you desire to do such a thing: [link]
I am proud of you for being self empowered. You are wise. Self educated. You aren't a sheep. You are, your own woman. Your own master and a slave to no one. And this is surely an accomplishment in todays fascist society which pretends to be democratic.
So if you can live happy in a world that is as it is for the moment, then it is something you should be proud of and something others should be proud of you for. It is to live the dream that most people see as impossibility.
So, keep doing what you're doing. Keep educating yourself and never stop. And always be happy!
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Well, since you hit the nail on the head with everything else, I feel I should explain the youtube thing. I have a fetish youtube account and I don't wish to draw those people to you. They are into the fetish and don't like the kind of videos you post. They don't even like what I have to say if it doesn't have anything to do with the fetish, so yeah. But I prefer to watch half a youtube video, go out and do stuff, edit photos, work, watch movies and maybe watch the other half of said video. Youtube is really not my thing
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With all due respect: for someone as absolutely brilliant as you are, you sure do know how to limit your paradigms. lol
You can watch any YouTube video with no obligation to subscribe to the channel, fav the video, comment on the video or anything. Just as you can watch a TV program with no one but you knowing you are doing it. YouTube is just a tool and nothing more. Its like saying "well, hammers aren't my thing because I'm not a carpenter". They don't have to be your think to grant yourself the right to hang a picture frame on the wall
Though you are relatively happy and this is great and I am happy for you -- you are still in a mode of self-victimization. 3 signs are: complaint, blame and justification for remaining in your circumstances.
Of course neither of these 3 need be aggressive or neurotic. Many people do this with such tact and diplomacy that it almost sounds logical.
Remember, excuses aren't lies. They are truths taken out of context. If they were lies, they couldn't "excuse" anyone, now could they?
You are very elegant and tactful within all of this.
But lets take a quick look at the obvious hiding in plain sight:
"I don't wish", "Youtube is really not my thing", "I don't wish to draw those people to you", "They are into the fetish and don't like the kind of videos you post", "They don't even like what I have to say", etc..
So lets point out the elephant in the room: you are basing your actions on what other people like or do not like, even when it comes to things you do in private which no one can know or needs to know what is being done. So something "is not your thing" based PURELY on what other people think of you and you're not considering yourself for even a second. Even your rejection of what I offered is based on the illusion of consideration towards me. Its like saying "i refuse to light the candle on a birthday cake because i don't want to burn down a house 3,000 miles away".
Its like comparing apples and semi-trucks, justifying it with "sometimes semi-trucks carry apples as cargo". lol
I am by no means judging you and I respect your right to do as you wish to do, regardless of anything.
I am only saying that the only person you're fooling, is yourself.
The underlining point whether its about websites, videos or making new friends: you fear change. period.
A new topic or different perspective on an existing topic, is change. A new friend, is change. Giving yourself more freedom, is change. Thinking beyond what you currently know, is change. Making things easier on yourself, is change. Anything which differs from exactly how you think and feel and how you do things now, regardless of whether or not these things are good and would serve you or are bad and would not serve you, are change. And your fear does not discriminate.
If my videos were just silly meaningless funny amusing mundane things, you'd watch them. But because they are educational, they might add to your perspectives and an addition, is change. They might cause you to think beyond what you are used to thinking about, which is change. I am not anything like most of the guys you've ever known, but thats still change. Some of my humor to you symbolizes things you'd rather not think about while others symbolize concepts which you are not dealing with all the time, so to venture away from the familar is yet again, change.
So why the fear? Well, seems obvious to me.
In your life, 99% of change was bad. Then things changed to be very, very good. So you don't want to risk anything changing it back to being bad. So you strictly lock yourself in, to preserve the happiness you've been enjoying that you do not want to loose.
I'd say the nail is all the way into the wood now, eh? 
No worries, hun. I've been there and I'm not one to judge.
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Well, I know people judge very harshly of the fetish. Both on youtube and DA. And while I know you wouldn't, I wouldn't want them to flame you. Excuse the double negative haha. While I know you couldn't give a rat's ass (pardon my French) about some flame on youtube, I do not wish to draw drama to anyone, you or my fans. While I know you wouldn't start drama, they were and bring it to me and give me the headache.
I love to make new friends. Ever since I started to publicly display my love of Doctor Who, I've been introduced to a lot of new friends. Specially, if they are people outside of my high school and outside my stalker circle. If your videos were silly, I actually wouldn't watch them. I find that sort of thing a waste of time. Unless you film a kitten then I might be more likely to watch if they were silly. But if you did, it'd have to become popular enough that people would have emailed it to me.
I just don't like youtube. I prefer to use my time online to post photographs and edit my photographs not watch videos on youtube. I prefer watching movies. I have always disliked watching anything (TV or Movies or videos (like yours) on a computer. I can't flip subtitles on and blast my music (is that even an option on youtube? lol) I don't even like Facebook that much or Myspace. I think it's a waste.
You are right about the bad change and I do fear that when things go good they might go to shit. But all my friends worry about that too. My family as well. So I see it as normal or natural. And I don't let it consume me. I don't pull my hair out thinking that if I change the way I think that Aaron will leave me and that Brood will not be my friend. No. I know they will accept me and if they don't they weren't worth my time.
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This conversation is filled with more ironies than either of us are likely aware of, but thats alright. Life would be boring without irony. The Universe is made up of mostly hydrogen, helium, carbon and irony.
Although at least on Earth, stupidity seems slightly more abundant than Oxygen and Nitrogen.
As far as the fetish stuff, I see that as a topic of philosophical discussion. Most people don't. lol
I just don't like how some people use fetishes to disrespect women. I mean, I'm not saying females are angels in this department, either. There are some girls who simply crave the attention which fuels the egos of those males and there are also women who views males every bit as materialistically as many males view women. So I am not saying its one sided at all. Some people mistake my support of females as "feminism" because they completely miss than my context is Gender Equality. Its as dumb as if I were promoting cookies and used a single name brand just as a mascott example, that people might claim that I hated any other type of cookies. What is being said does not necessarily imply its opposite. hehehe.
I hate raw tomatoes, but if someone assumed that I also hated katchup or tomato sauce, they'd be dead wrong.
Anyways, you get the point
I also like Doctor Who, by the way
As for your preferences and lack there of as far as video content, I mean no disrespect when I say that I believe you are forming preferences based on assumptions rather than facts, but it is good that for this response, you did elect to make a few inquires as well
No tool is ever a waste. A person can use a tool wastefully, or use it productively. What you have said about Facebook or Myspace some people say that about the Internet as a whole, because they think theres nothing but porn on it and not much else. Some people truly do think this and it is their loss, for the whole Internet is a tool to be used in whatever way you see fit -- not how anyone else sees fit.
Yes, YouTube has supported subtitles forever -- although that system is currently still in an evolutionary process. You see, there are currently two ways for a YouTube Video to have subtitles.
01) The video uploader must create them manually or somehow have a subtitles file which is compatible with the subtitles format that YouTube uses (there is more than one format and sadly, the one most commonly used is not the one YouTube supports, which is idiotic). Someone who enjoys writing and reading such as yourself, can do someone like me who is not such a big fan of it a huge favor, and create a subtitles file for me for my videos, which I can then upload into each video, so other people such as yourself who share your preferences on things, can enjoy the ability of being able to blast their music while watching the video and reading the subtitles.
02) YouTube can use a "speech-to-text" mechanism to ATTEMPT to properly translate what is being verbally spoken into textual data and then display it on the screen for you. Though it does a far better job of this than it used to, it is still horse shit. Eventually they'll get it right, I suppose. But I really feel that this engine being created just slightly after the Patriot Act was instated, isn't a coincidence.
If you would rather watch movies on a TV rather than a computer screen (to me, there isn't even a difference anymore its all the same shit these days -- full screen FTW!), there are plenty of ways to download things like YouTube videos and burn them to DVD to play them right off of your hard drive. I do it all the time, its not really a big deal.
Anyways, all of this is merely semantics anyways, though I do thank you for asking rather than assuming. It was nice to see 
My core point was simply that there is much educational materials which you are unaware of that would be to your benefit. Would all of it be? Well, of course not. Just like not all food is to your benefit or liking. But refusing to eat any food at all ever is similarly silly in my opinion, as to assume that YouTube (or anywhere else on the Internet, for that matter) has nothing which could benefit you and thus with extreme prejudice, write it all off based purely on a stereotype you have created.
But, it is understandable in one respect. As you already have stated in the past -- you grew up around prejudice and even though you are doing the best you can at rooting it out and being rid of it, this takes time and it is lodged in you as automatic a reflex as fighter pilot training.
Reminds me of a funny but true story which makes the point. One night it was very late and Martian Luther King (I think it was him, anyways. or another black activist for ethnic equality and human rights, etc) was walking down a dark street when suddenly, he heard footsteps behind him. He turned around and his first impulse reaction was to be relieved. Why? Because he saw that the man walking not too far behind him, was white. As soon as he realized he had done this, he felt extremely ashamed of himself.
As for friendship, this was the core of my original statement in the first place and I'd like to get us back on track.
I applaud you for your honesty and I greatly appreciate it. I also appreciate that you do not take my thoughts and feelings personally as I know my thoughts and feelings when expressed can seem very forward, bold and blunt and some people find this offensive -- despite the fact that I do my absolute best to make sure it is understood that my thoughts and feelings are based on my observation of actions and I do not hold any hatred towards the person I am speaking to. I believe that everyone reserves the right to think and feel as they wish and to be the individuals they choose to be and a persons actions are merely a reflection of this. The other person would still be the sort of person they are, even if you were never born. So anything from someone else which "seems to be about us" is actually an illusion, as it is not about us. They would still be treating other people the same as they have treated you and the same as they always are and always do -- we tend to forget that we are not being singled out and that a persons actions are based on the sort of person they have chosen to be. It is not about us and for better or worse -- they have the full right to be themselves, even if their choices are shitty and their actions, unwise. We can not expect anyone to accept our own individuality and grant us the respect enough to allow us to learn from our own mistakes, if we refuse to allow others the same.
So this is the respect I give both myself and you because in my personal opinion, to do otherwise would be a catastrophic mistake on my part. A mistake I had made countless times in the past and I do my absolute best to not make it in the present. This becomes ironically easier and easier to accomplish directly proportional to how fucking sick you become of learning the hard way. Hahaha.
Once you get tired enough of your feet getting cut up and bloody, you eventually move beyond your own stubbornness and walk through the field of broken glass with boots on
I agree that a person who can not accept me for who I am is a waste of time -- BUT: not in the same context you might be thinking.
It is a waste of my time to attempt to conform another person to my will and attempt to violate their individuality and freedom of choice which grants them the full right to judge me harshly and reject me completely, if that is what they wish to do.
When I respect someone's individuality in this way, one of two very interesting things happens -- directly depending on their reasons for the judgements and rejections in the first place.
01) No one likes to be dominated by others in the way such as someone trying to tell you how you should think, what you should feel and do and so on. That is pushing. Well, when we attach to other people when we are feeling judged, often times the reason we are being judged in the first place is because we keep attaching to the person out of fear of losing them, so we end up losing them by default of perpetually pissing them off. So when you openly tell them that you respect their rights to feel as they do and are willing to 100% comply with their wishes even if their wish is that you fuck off and never talk to them again -- all of the sudden they calm down and are willing to accept you for who you are. The only reason you were getting judged and pushed away is because you were unknowingly judging them. So forwardly expressing this and stating that you are absolutely willing to respect their wishes without debate or argument, can get them to relax and want to deal with you.
02) Someone who is judging you just because they are a judgemental person and doesn't care what you think about them, they are simply a judgemental asshole: when you again openly respect their rights to be who they have chosen to be, you are now a dry well. They can't intimidate and control you because their power plays are based strictly upon you wanting to cling to them so that they can mess with your head and manipulate you. These people feel they can not be in control of themselves unless they are also in control of others around them. When you respect them and allow yourself to detach, they lose interest in you completely to the point that the thought of even talking to you makes them sick. So, the drama ends. They are no longer a problem and they are respecting your rights to not be fucked with by default of you becoming a dry well and having nothing to offer them that they are interested in.
What you resist, persists. What you embrace, you erase.
I have only fully realized these concepts much more recently than one might imagine and have been experimenting with putting my knowledge into practical application and it has simply been magical. What few drama people might be in the outskirts of my life, become even more distant and cease to be a concern. Those who I was unknowingly and unintentionally pushing away, because they do want to be my friend and I just didn't realize that I was pushing, now feel comfortable with coming closer and they become curious about me instead of annoyed by me.
Unless there is some oddball third category that I've not discovered yet, you are in Position #01. Though I've not exactly been up your ass or anything, we've not been able to become friends due to my own naivety. So, I put the above outlined deal on the table.
If you desire to become friends and communicate more and have discussions about things, then cool. Would be my pleasure. I am ready to fully accept you for who you are. If not, I respect that and we can remain pleasant acquaintances, if that is your wish. In order to move beyond your fear of the new with me, I need to prove that I am not a drama risk. That I am not as you say, a waste of your time.
So whatever you decide, is cool by me. If you decide not to pursue friendship, I acknowledge that this has been my own fault.
I accept you as you are and will comply with your wishes, without argument
But the conversation has been very refreshing, thank you
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I'd like to be friends, but when I do feel comfortable (Idk sometimes there are just days where I say thank you and go away and other days where I can ramble and ramble. I was not meaning when you make me feel comfortable lol) and I express myself in my joking manner you seem to do what a lot of "older" people (and by older I mean like 4 years older lol) do and that's talk down to me.
It drives me a bit bonkers. Like when you asked for my opinion on the gallery folder and I told you it wasn't in my fetish bag or something, I was merely joking. I have never viewed you as a fetish deviant but I had viewed you opened minded enough that you could see since I myself am a fetish model that giant women is gonna scream fetish at me.
In no way did I think you were a pervert or objectified women, your too nice of a guy. But I have a friend who is into babes with muscles. Some people see that as objectifying women. I see it as empowering. No matter which way a woman goes with her body (fat to muscular) there is a bunch of men drooling and fantasizing about them. It's not my thing by a long shot (haha besides the fact I'm straight) but I still give my opinion. His work is excellent, but the muscles are eh to me. He gets it
But one day, we decided to chat about religion and he started to talk down to me because I loved the "rules" of Judaism. Very woman based religion. But he thought I was trying to tell him it's the right religion. I never step on people's toes about religion. So we stopped talking for a long time. But we recently started to talk again and it feels great!
The only time I don't mind being talked down to is if I went to your profile and started saying "OMG! You object women! How dare you!" And you explain. Btw I do NOT think that. But if I am truly wrong, then please! Inform me of what I am doing wrong! Even people who are 10, my age or 100!
But I'd like to be your friend
So, I'd love to be your friend
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Thank you for all of that!
I think you have completely cleared this up for me so with any luck, I'll be able to do the same for you
Its one thing to say, believe and understand things like, what you resist persists. What you put out you get back. What you embrace you erase. Truth is colored by perspective. Believing is seeing. Etc etc yada yada. Study and understand it all well for it is all valuable tools. However, study is far different from practical experience and even when you have practical experience -- there is always more to learn and unlike internships, this is experience that you do not fill out an application for. Once you have a good enough understanding of things and you affirm that to yourself strongly the Universe says "ohhhh reeaaalllly? you THINK so, eh? weeelllllllll........ LETS TEST THE THEORY!" and suddenly circumstances jump straight out of left field like surprise buttsex ready to see whether or not you truly can see through the fabricated societal illusions, or if you fall straight back into your old patterns.
For some things, I was falling back into old patterns while still affirming what I had learned, so the Universe was kicking my ass around the block for a little while with some things and did so until I was willing to wake up and redeem the cluepons and suddenly annoyance would be replaced with "Eureka Moments" and I would apply that knowledge and circumstances begin to shift into things which are more reasonable and not so chaotic.
We tend to be afraid to learn things while sharing what we have already learned, because instead of people seeing it as "okay, he understands what a bike is, he has one and he is still learning how to ride it properly so sometimes he's going to fall a little" people can see me as occasionally hypocritical or in some way "letting them down" because they only looked at "what i knew" but they weren't really seeing that knowing something is quite different from a more implicit understanding through a lot of direct experience. I get put on a pedestal a lot, and I hate it. It just puts me in a position for people to have high hopes that are impossible for me to NOT shoot down just by default of I am me and not who they are expecting me to be and so their expectations are very easy to let them down on because I'm not being accepted for who I am.
This has effects such as how you have perceived me, though you are not explosive about your expressions and I thank you for that
This is why we both saw each other as patronizing. You do see that this is what happened, right?
When we feel patronized, it is because we're not giving the other person the right to be themselves and we are trying to conform them to our expectations. This statement is a hard kick to the ego, but this is truly what is going on. Truth is colored by perspective and one person's fucking asshole is another person's outspoken philosopher. One person's genius is another person's insane lunatic who needs professional help. A revolutionary in the eyes of one is a terrorist in the eyes of another. Like how the War on a word in the English Language called "Terror" is supposed to make George Dubbya and everyone in DC look like real life manifestations of Captain America, yet all this is -- is an excuse to invade other countries, murder the civilians and jack their shit.
When you feel someone is not accepting you for who you are it is because simultaneous, you are not accepting them for who they are. I was not accepting you for who you were and vice versa. This is a painfully embarrassing lesson for me and I've had quite a few others like it in the last few months.
When you can truly accept someone for who they are, it is not to allow drama into your life. I mean, thats how some people become afraid. They think "well i can't be judging so i need to try to be friends, try to be nice, try to be this, try to be that and try to be everything I am NOT because I am also trying to make the other person into something they are not". This is where "be different, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE" comes in as a fad, among other things.
People feel "guilty" because they have a skewed definition of what "accepting someone" is. When you accept a rattle snake, you do not try to force it to be a kitten and then cry victim every time it bites you and you're rushed off to the ER. To say "this is a dangerous rattle snake, I need to either know how to handle it the right way, or I need to stay the hell away for it" pays no insult to the snake and if you like rattle snakes, it pays it no compliment and if you dislike rattlesnakes, this pays it no insult, either.
But we are brain washed into thinking, metaphorically speaking -- that if we do not cuddle with the rattle snake and pretend it is a kitten, then we are judging the snake and shame on us for doing so, it makes us such horrible, terrible people. And stuff. Gotta love bullshit peer pressures.
Then when the snake bites us we are told "it only bit you, because you were mean to it and judging it and you are such a horrible person!" so it throws us into self-victimization. No, it only bit you because its a fucking rattle snake and unless you were another rattle snake which you are not, then this is what rattle snakes do. They defend against things bigger than themselves and eat things smaller than themselves. It is the nature of the snake. It pays it no insult to realize this and theres no reason we should feel guilty to understand this, but society makes us think that to understand the true nature of a thing, is to judge it harshly and this is just bullshit. To NOT understand the true nature of a thing is what leads to judgement, crusades, disempowerment, crime, war, the need for money, government, police, etc.. because of COURSE if we are kept ignorant we need "big daddy mechanisms" to keep us from "hurting others and ourselves" the same as small children do. We are a society of perpetual children being tricked into thinking we can't ever mature and evolve.
So when confronted with the new and different and all that which is well outside of our comfort zone, when we think "oh i better not judge it!" what we are REALLY doing, is the opposite. The statement itself is a double negative. A wolf in sheeps clothing. But when we say "oh, how curious! i would like to understand this so that i know how to proceed!" then we are in a position of integrity and wisdom and clear thinking. This allows for evolution and maturity.
This is why anything we like based on avoiding something we do not like, or anything we say "this is good to do" justified by "because that other thing is bad to do" only attracts to us more of what we perceive as being bad and unliked, as we wonder why we continue to go more and more insane
The reason most people seem to not have any common sense is because there is no such thing. Believing is seeing and truth is coloured by perspective. There is nothing common about how each of us as individuals sense that which is around us. A bon fire might burn equally hot for all who sit around it, but you can bet ur ass that each person is perceiving that fire totally in a different way with different views on it, despite anything which might seem common or mutually agreed upon by all about the fire.
One person might think it reminds them of dancing angels in heaven. Another might be reminded of demons, hell and the so-called evil in this world. Another might stay far from the fire, afraid that they might get burned. Another may love the roasted marshmallows and yet another might be afraid to roast them because if they over cook it, then it will only be more of a reminder of how they feel they just can't do anything right and feel as if they are a worthless waste of space in this world. Another person might stare into the fire and think of atomic structures and how magical the glory of God is within the physics and quantum physics of the universe. Another might gaze into it and be reminded of fossil fuel and start contemplating new ideas for free, clean energy. Another might imagine how the sun will one day burn out so we need to go galactic as soon as we can, as dreams of space ships and boldly exploring the universe play in their minds like their own personal scifi movie channel.
So there is nothing common about the senses and thinking their is, this is one of the keys to feeling patronized also. Because if someone has the audacity to express themselves and we happen to agree with them, we usually don't see it as "this person things like I do, cool!". Instead we might say "dude, i already know this. i am not a fucking moron. gawd. you always belittle me! wtf?! you always act like i am so stupid! i am smarter than you think, you know!!!" and then the person being told this feels worthless, afraid and as if they can't do anything right. The person who just scolded them is thinking "i wish i could be as smart as they are so i wouldn't always be treated like an idiot!!!" and the person who just got scolded is sitting there thinking "i am not conforming to society and this is bad. being an individual, is wrong. expressing myself, is wrong. my expressions, are wrong. everything about me, is wrong and bad. how do i know this? because i can't ever do anything right. no matter what i say or how much i try to show people i can relate to them and no matter how much i try to get them to see i am not judging them and that i am into what they are into and i agree with them, they take it as an attack because apparently i am too stupid to say anything the right way. so i had just better shut up. i am a burden to others. i am an idiot".
So both people see themselves as being the fool who did something wrong, but one is an introvert and the other is an extrovert.
One says "how dare you!" and the other says "how dare me".
I am an introvert but because I have spent the last 5 or 6 years getting over myself and learning to be more out spoken while at the same time learning how to be not judging of myself or others, to be accepting of myself and others -- and not because i feel i "should do this" or "should not do that" but because I want to do what I want to do and THIS is what I truly want to do -- people can mistake me for an extrovert because they are not aware that there is such a thing as an "introvert learning to be more bold".
So I moved out of being the person who was always picked on, made fun of and being told they are worth nothing into being the person who is always being accused of this and that, for only the crime of my own individuality and rights to freedom of expression. So, it has been very challenging to be so used to the former for so many years while learning how to adapt to the latter.
Not to mention, my mother loves to sometimes become offended by my independence and sees my happiness as my hell, my successes as failures, my right to my individuality as an attack on hers, my right to agree to disagree as me becoming defensive to her point of view simply because I have a different one than hers and so on. But, she's not aware she is doing this at all. She is genuinely clueless to the fact that this is even happening and she is clueless because after a sister who always picked on her all of her life (my Aunt Faye is a cold discompasionate cunt. no judgement on my part though. she is simply a rattle snake and those are what they are), the death of her father, a failed marriage, the death of her mother and her overall complete and total lack of any success or accomplishment in her life what so ever: she feels victimised by everything and everyone, misery loves company and misery will demand that you become this company and will rage hard against you when you decline its invite.
The more I gain myself the more my mother feels she is losing me and losing herself even more. As if what little she feels she has left in her life, is slipping away and abandoning her. If she wasn't so afraid of death I think she'd have killed herself a long time ago.
My error was in being as clueless to this as she is. To see her just being herself, as an attack on me. I have noticed that the more I accept her right to throw her life into the toilet and to judge me as hard as she wants to, the less she is doing it now and her mind is very, very, very, very slowly opening more, but it IS opening.
In expecting her to accept me and outright demanding it, the more she felt like a victim because in her view, she was accepting me for who I am because she doesn't realize that she has created her own view of who I am and does not see that she is rejecting me. So just like a little child, how can we be angry at the child for what the child does not know? If the child does not know streets are dangerous you keep them away from the street. You don't let them cross the street and then loudly rage in anger at them every time they almost get hit by a car and tell them how stupid they supposedly are. We just keep them away from the street.
So if we know someone just can NOT see who we truly are, then we need to accept them for who they are and accept that this is a part of who they are right now. We need to stop trying to force the rattle snakes to be kittens.
So yes, you are not the only one who has felt patronized and judged by my right to my own individuality. However, I too was feeling patronized and judged by yours. And my Moms. And many other people. So, I've had a very close female friend assisting me with straightening my ass out. She also has the same issue as me, so its perfect. Neither of us are going to rag on each other. We both now whats happening and why. We're on the same page.
So both of us have been assisting each other with being able to transform our lives through re-definition and being willing to see things from perspectives beyond that of what we currently know, so that we may be open to knowing and to the practical application of that new knowledge.
Both her and I have assisted each other with transformative effects regarding family members, friends and life in general. Its been pretty cool, actually
Its opened my mind to new perspectives and I have been having a lot of "ah-ha!" moments because its like "ohhh, so THAT is why this never worked! i wasn't completely understanding!"
So based on the stereotype of "being older" and whatever others, were you rejecting my individuality and seeing just me being me and different as an attack on yours? Of course, but I was also doing it to you and ya know, when 2 people add more wood to a fire, its only going to get bigger.
So I'm busting out my fire hose. You've the right to think anything you wish about me or anything or anyone else and I don't have the right to act like you can't and I appologize because before, this is exactly how I acted without realizing it and I really don't reserve the right to do that sort of thing.
Now I'm going to more directly address this
"Like when you asked for my opinion on the gallery folder and I told you it wasn't in my fetish bag or something, I was merely joking. I have never viewed you as a fetish deviant but I had viewed you opened minded enough that you could see since I myself am a fetish model that giant women is gonna scream fetish at me."
It was common sense to you that I should know you were a fetish model but when our misunderstanding on this first took place, I did not. So when I see a female doing body art, it is going to scream "her right to express herself, be herself and define that beauty as she sees fit to do so!" at me. It is not going to scream "fetish model!" at me. So, you see where I am coming from here
Because I knew you were open minded but at the same time had felt very rejected by you in a great many ways, I didn't think you were joking. I thought it was another rejection based on the stuff you had been through in your life that had formed certain bias opinions and perspectives. So you had already made me feel very pushed away and so your "joking comment" was taken as yet another polite push. You thought your joke was "obvious" to me but it clearly was not. You held me to conform to your expectations of me and I admit, I did the same to you. I felt rejected by you because I was rejecting your individuality based on my past experiences. Welcome to the house of mirrors
So it is understandable that exploring my humor might not "be your bag" as it were, if you're feeling as if exploring it to see it for what it is, might put you into a position to be judged and belittled and I am sorry that you felt that way. I will correct that now so we can explore these things without either of us feeling like that. You are quite deep and can mix humor, philosophy, art, psychology and a number of things together into a single cake of creativity, just as I can. It is refreshing because we live in a world where people are so "this or that" minded when having a mind of "this and that" are what allows for the components of creativity to come together to allow art to even exist in the first place.
So when confronted by someone else who is also creative and open minded, it just feels like home. Its comfortable. Its nice.
"In no way did I think you were a pervert or objectified women, your too nice of a guy. But I have a friend who is into babes with muscles. Some people see that as objectifying women. I see it as empowering. No matter which way a woman goes with her body (fat to muscular) there is a bunch of men drooling and fantasizing about them. It's not my thing by a long shot (haha besides the fact I'm straight) but I still give my opinion. His work is excellent, but the muscles are eh to me. He gets it
Yeah, I know how you feel there. I can't stop someone from making female expression about their own insecure ego, but I can at least do my best to discourage people from using my art at a "license for sexual harassment"
Plus, I think girls are allowed to express themselves in ways society might deem as "perverted" or "flirtatious" without it meaning that they have "I WANNA FUCK YOU!" written on their foreheads. I don't like the double standard where guys seem to feel that they are allowed to do this and when a girl says "you creep!" they say "i am just being playful and affectionate to my own expression because i thought highly of you, ya arrogant self centred bitch!" -- yet when a girl gives herself the right to do the same as the guy, she is branded a tease or a whore.
Not saying women are perfect. I could make quite a large list of oversights, misunderstandings, ignorance, stupidities and other not so wonderful things that BOTH genders mutually do to each other. It is just that as a male, I feel I have a better chance of opening the female mind to the fact that not all guys are what they stereotype us to be, if I show that I am willing to be equally open minded about them.
Some people scream "Feminist!" missing my whole point about GENDER EQUALITY, but -- whatever.
I believe in gender equality, age equality, ethnic equality, national equality, spiritual (or lack there of any spiritual beliefs at all) equality and so on. People have the right to be who they are and theres no reason beyond that of sociopathic insecurity and cynicism that we should be ragging on people for the crime of being themselves. Its pretty fucked up.
We're all different and unique, not "better or worse". We're all human.
"But one day, we decided to chat about religion and he started to talk down to me because I loved the "rules" of Judaism. Very woman based religion. But he thought I was trying to tell him it's the right religion. I never step on people's toes about religion. So we stopped talking for a long time. But we recently started to talk again and it feels great!"
The one is all, the all is one. God has many names and many faces, some of which can be found in the mirror
God, Goddess, Masculine, Feminine. Two sides of the same coin of equality and God made it all. As the old saying goes "God created man so that man could create God". Hows that for quantum?
"But I'd like to be your friend
So, I'd love to be your friend"
Looking forward to it.
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