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Published: 2012-05-10 12:21:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 1164; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 4
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Heell yeah! Sorry for not posting anything guys
This is the last drawing I've made and it's actually a fanart for Nemo Ramjet's planet called Snaiad.
One of the interesting things about it is that some of the creatures there which fill the niche of insects are much more closely related to the big "vertebrates" than arthropods and vertebrates on earth.
I haven't seen any flying picozans, so I attempted to draw one.
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Well, I thought the wings would fold flat over its back, and that the bristles could also "fold flat" along the central "quil" (leg)
Like I said, this is just an idea that Nemo has full right to reject, but I haven't seen any flying picozoans at all, so I decided to make one om my own.
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You could draw one in flight!
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I think they would flap their wings hystherically quickly like insects, but it wouldn't produce a buzzing sound I guess, because their body build is totally different
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What soul=nd would it make then?
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Yeah, the site has been taken down for a very long time.
I can't really imagine what sounds it would make, but it would most likely be a silent flier
also, I spotted a major flaw with this concept, the legs are grouped in fore-and hind "quartetos" so I think it would be more likely if all four forelegs became wings and all four hindlegs remained legs...
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good job, friend! I had drawn a flying picozoa, but yours still has the basal body
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Really? I'd like to see them!
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something interesting snaiadi vertebrates, is that neither can develop the flight. Because their hydraulic muscles that allow movement not allowed to fly.
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Why not? Hydraulic muscles would push, not pull like the "ulual" muscles, so the anchoring structure for massive flight muscles would be on the back, not on the belly, and the dorsal muscles would push the wings down, in contrast to bird's thoracic muscles that pull the wings in the same direction. I think that animal with hydraulic muscles could evolve flight, but the body structure would be "upside down bird" because hydraulic muscles push rather than pull, which needs to be taken into consideration, but I think there is nothing to prevent Snaiadi vertebrates from evolving flight.
I really want to hear Nemo's reasoning behind this, maybe he wants to make his world more "alien" to the audience and fill the niches of fliers by "non-vertebrate" animals.
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s1.zetaboards.com/Conceptual_Evolution/topic/612122/4/#new
go here.
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Nothing concrete in there.
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Those are just suggestions made by other people, there is nothing explicitly saying that flying Snaiadi vertebrates are not mossible, it merely "goes against nemo's wish" as someone stated. I am sorry, but I still need some more "background information in this issue. I would like to know what exactly would prevent the vertebrates from taking off to the air. There were some points about the different musculature, but I presented an idea above here which might be a solution for that.
On the contrary, there were some important points against big flying trikes, so the vertebrates are the only lineage which could evolve into sizable flying forms.
I don't want to question nemo's decision, I would like to only hear the reasons why he made that decision and also an explanation which would justify that decision.
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well, it's true. To be happy, nemo had mentioned that snaiadi vertebrates developed flight. Apparently a group of hexapods I succeed.
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Much to my surprise, in the comment section is Nemo's note that the "pteranodon" is a giant flying trike...
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incredible. Strangely, they are some shadows in the trees. possibly be the same creature, just resting
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Yeah, probably.
It's too bad the site was taken down.
It's a bummer, I explored Snaiad after the site has been put down, so I don't have any "first hand" experience...
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if it's too bad. I knew that there is a website that still maintains the right place before I retire?
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Yeah. That website doesn't exist any more...
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[link]
web/20090319093059/
[link]
snduterus.html
There's an archive of early 2009. press impatient
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Well, either I am stupid or none of the link leads to snaiad... =/
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You can read the link?
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is terrible to see that.
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So. Are the links correct?
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yes, is correct. know,'m going to like talk to you about this.
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wait, what do you mean by that?
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I didn't understand your last comment.
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oh, well. What I said was that I liked talking to you about snaiad.
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and there are also other flying snaiadi: the elastozoas.
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Judging from the name, something like molluscs?
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partly yes. I would say look like a hybrid between octopus and sea anemone.
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Ah. I have only read some note about elastozoans, but nothing concrete really. Also, it was a long time ago so I only vauguely remember. All my knowledge about elastozoans is that they are from Snaiad
Now when the official website is down, I couldn't find any more information about them. And no pictures... I explored Snaiad when the site was taken down, so I don't have any first-hand experience and my knowledge of it is very limited...
I'm really interested in elastozoans...
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[link]
this in my language, but there is a picture of a elastozoa.
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Thats amazing! Thank you! Hopefully, google will help me at least a little bit with the language barrier
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well, it's a pleasure. Also it shows the bugfishes, which are very interesting because they were a successful group in the planet's past.
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I see! Zippo4k has made some arthrognaths, so those are some of the few snaiadi "non-vertebrates" I'm quite familiar with
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I've also seen. zippo4k is like the second hand nemo information about other groups snaiadi. Among the other groups would not-vertebrates: the trikers, we had discussed earlier.
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Yeah. Trikes are awesome critters too!
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possibly be one of the most interesting creatures snaiadi. Finally are the mullojiforms, which for me are the most enigmatic, because I never found a good description.
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Wow I have never heard of mullogiforms before! Can you share the little bit you know about them?
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well, almost nothing about them, only that they are like molluscs and a large group who were successful.
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are also the types of plants. Are the red and green.
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also the walking trees?
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Only the things that Zippo4k made about them
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oh, well. This concludes to discuss the snaiadi invertebrates. What other types of creatures called you attention?
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