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Simply a refreshed layout for print of the old "Colossus" illustration:For name recognition's sake, it ended up the "COLOSSUS Class" after all.
Digital Illustration, Adobe illustrator.
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Ought to be called the Titantic -Class.
A ship that big is inviting disaster. I see it as just the opposite of what that said.
It's still only one ship, and prone to the same threats as any other craft. But to risk all those lives, and all those resources on what is still only one ship would make no sense.
With that size, and the output of all those warp cores, and she'd be spotted by sensors form 20 parsecs away. And no matter how many weapons it may carry, it would still be only one ship, so enemy forces would have an easier time than if the Federation used the resources to make a dozen Galaxy class ships. In combat, she'd have to be flanked by an entire fleet just to make sure she's safe, just as the big aircraft carriers did in World War II.
To loose one of those ships would be a catastrophic loss of life and resources.Β It's a ship that should never be built.
Starfleet will make a dozen.
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we don't have star destroyers, so let's make one!
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That is the general idea β wasteful, ostentatious, and more than a little provocative, raising the question of why the Federation sees a need to assemble the task forces these command ships would be the operational centerpieces of: Β not exactly an expression of the self-avowed "spirit of peaceful exploration".
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Yeah, they're the Federation's version of a Death Star.
Something that big just reminds me of the Battle of Midway, when small US fighter bombers sank several huge aircraft carriers.
But if they make it out of cardboard - just an outer shell - and use it as a bluff...Β
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Very interesting.Β I find it rather amazing that this ship, designed what, six years ago, and the STO Eclipse class cruiser, which I bought today, look so similar.Β Besides a more angular primary hull this one's almost a premonition.
Or STO's designers decided a ripoff is fair play.
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Although it is hypothetically possible that there may be influence on the STO design, the similarities may simply reflect that I designed this ship following certain current trends in form and proportion. Β Scale notwithstanding, this tends toward elongated, dart-like hulls and somewhat massive nacelles, and results in strong superficial resemblance in silhouette, especially in plan view. Β And looking at the Eclipse, I see no more than that.
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Seal that is, akin to the seal of rassilon
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When you get a chance brother, Id love to see if you could do a design sea for the Architect of Gallifrey? If you like, please visit my journal for the details.
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What ARE they trying to compensate for, indeed.Β
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would we potentially be able to see even a rough sketch or the side view of this thing?
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I did make such a sketch some time ago β whether I would stick to this or not on reconsideration is debatable.
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Who needs a fleet when we got this?
Mabye soon well see a side view so well see how tall it is.
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When enemies are flying circles around this massive monster on impulse, support of a full fleet would come in very handy...
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Yeah, I feel like star fleet could only get bigger by taking a space station, like starbase 1, slap some warp nacelles on it and call it a ship.
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That is, in essence, what the Colossus represents β though making it work would require more than just attaching a engines to station.
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It's a bit on the nose, as far as designations go, but was monicker that oddly had not already been repeatedly used for Starfleet classes.
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Now that I thinks about it, your right, I can't think of a single starship with that name. Being such a cool name, you think it would have been used already.
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"Colossus" implies immense size, and with the exception of recent size-inflation, Starfleet ships were simply not that huge to justify such a grandiose name.
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True, true. Romulun Warbirds are very large, right. Is a Colossus Class bigger?
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By far. Those silhouette beside it are to scale. A Warbird is big, but not that big.
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So how big is a Warbird then? When I say Warbird, I mean this kind-->[link] , not this kind-->[link]
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A "mere" 1.4 km in length, and much of that just empty space.
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Strange, they always looked so big compared to the Enterprise in TNG.
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Warbirds are more than twice the size of ENT-D, which was only 642m long.
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That would explain it.
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The only portion I slightly disagree with on your discussion is the "would demand more than any project in starfleet history." How about the starbases into which the Galaxy class docked? Those massive constructs would still dwarf these ships and their collective might.
That being said, I've always been fond of this "supercarrier" concept of yours. Magnificent work as always.
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Well, it is a satirical piece about overkill and excessive spending on projects of dubious value.
Realistically, it would likely be quite doable within the context of the ship-building industry.
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Oh I also forgot to mention this class of ship would be the answer to the Borg problem.
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Arguably, the answer to the Borg problem would be to upload Farmville and Angry Birds into its collective consciousness. ;D
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Dude, seriouly Angry Birds would just give them new ideas of how to beat the Feferation, now if they fought those Colosus-class vessels no matter what ship they sent it would just be blownup by 'em.
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New ideas? You mean building a giant slingshot and just launch spheres at us after forcing all to stack our vessels ontop of one another? Yeah great plan collective, I can really tell that your close to your goal of perfection.
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*laughs* Sorry it's been awhile but it's a joke, though it'd be pretty funny to see the Borg do that. XD
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Actually, it would be the perfect science vessel because even with that armament you could still fit a lot of scientific equipment into this monster of a ship or it would could be used as a place to research a way to cure Starfleet-personnel who've been assimilated into the Borg Collective.
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Not to mention support a whole flotilla of science vessels of various type. I suspect it could also be useful when heading into truly enchanted regions.
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I think perhaps it would be better served having the title "Overkill" or something similar, even with the warlike factions within and without the federation Starfleets primary mandate has always been exploration - this totally undoes that ethos.
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Which is, of course, why this monster would never be authorized by the Federation.
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well look at star trek online and the odyssey class ship. she is 1.1 or 1.2km long, and still is considered a science/exploration vesselΒ like the galaxy class.
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Since I conceived of this ship, the Star Trek universe(s) have undergone something of a massive size-inflation binge to the extent that the Colossus is no longer the obvious oversized monster it is.
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Dunno...it seems essentially to be Earth Spacedock squashed into a new silhouette and given nacelles.
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That is the general idea. Β I do not claim it is a good idea. Β
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I DO claim it's a cool one.Β I dare ya to design it fully.
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"Daring" me is pointless. Β This project languishes due to its low priority, not a lack on intent. Β There is far more to it that has ever been shown here β though I am wont to reillustrate it from scratch if I return t it.
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I know...the dare wasn't serious.Β It was more a tacit acknowledgement of the massive undertaking such readouts would be.
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Makes my plans for the "Century Class" - 2.5 times the volume of a Galaxy class, at an overall length of just shy of 1,000m - look positively puny! I like the idea of a ship that's almost totally self-contained and self-sufficient, more like a mobile starbase than a conventional starship. As close as Starfleet ever gets to an Culture GSV
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I think this is one of he better 'big ship' concepts that I've seen. Quite often, people simply take the standard configuration of parts, saucer, engineering hull, and nacelles and scale them up to some giant size. It almost always turns out looking awful for one reason or another. You've made it work though.
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