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Plowplot In reply to Tyr-Opfer [2015-11-23 15:25:49 +0000 UTC]

You mean a civics class? Yes, hasn't everyone? Did they stop teaching that in school? That might explain why so many Americans can't even name what the three branches of government are.

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Tyr-Opfer In reply to Plowplot [2015-11-23 17:11:19 +0000 UTC]

I just asked because comparing and of the political candidates to nazi's is so far fetched.

Obama is closer to communist than National socialist.

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Plowplot In reply to Tyr-Opfer [2015-11-24 13:34:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh, no, I'm not saying Trump is a Nazi. I'm saying he is so amazingly ignorant of the world around him that he doesn't even realize that he is quoting "facts" and taking ideas on polices from actual white supremacist groups and neo-nazi.

Like just the other day he posted this tweet of a graphic that is completely false and originates from a hate group: twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/st…

He refuses to take the tweet down because when he posted what is literal race-war propaganda from a literal hate group, Republicans loved it and he jumped in the polls. Now he's just pretending he doesn't know it's fake data from a face research center which does not and has never existed.

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Plowplot In reply to anupespe [2015-11-21 23:27:04 +0000 UTC]

When the Nazi started turning against the Jews they did all the things that Republicans are doing now. They made the Jews seem dangerous and untrust worthy, they blamed violence they didn't do on the Jews, they relaxed gun laws for every but the Jews, just like neo-cons are creating their own "Muslim Free Zone" gun stores and shooting ranges, then they convinced the German people that Jews were so dangerous they had to be registered and tracked just like Republicans are trying to do to Syrian refugees today.

Mass murder of a culture is never a simple thing. You have to guide the population towards it in steps. First you dehumanize the target group by making them seem dangerous, then you get people to agree and pass laws saying how dangerous they are and when people get nice and comfortable with the idea of them being dangerous, of those oppressive laws being necessary, you start showing instances of violence and fear mongering. You say that tracking them isn't working, they are so dangerous you need to lock them up to protect the public. Then when the public agrees you let that be the normal way of life for a while before you say, "Even in prison they are dangerous! Their supporters are dangerous! Look at how they kill each other in prison! They have to be cleansed from the gene pool because something is obviously wrong with them." and people look back, they remember all those years that they have thought that your target group was dangerous and they think that mass killing might be OK because the problem with *those people* has been so bad for so long.

The Nazi did it against Jews. The Republicans did it against Blacks ever since Regan took office. They did it against Muslims since 9/11 and now they are turning on the Syrians because of the attacks in Paris. Neo-cons live off of hate and fear. No minority is safe from them.

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anupespe In reply to Plowplot [2015-11-22 11:40:51 +0000 UTC]

Citation of this please - 
 When trump said yes, the same reporter asked him how this kind of policy was different from what the Nazi did to the Jews. This resulted in five rounds of Trump asking the reporter, "What do you think makes them different?" and the reporter saying, "No, what do *you* think?" before Trump finally gave up and walked away in a huff because the reporter had exposed him as the completely clueless, ignorant, racist that he is.

Otherwise you are just cooking up some really bad lies for a smear campaign against Trump. 

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Plowplot In reply to anupespe [2015-11-22 19:33:07 +0000 UTC]

I enjoyed the stunned look on Trumps face because he is use to reporters reminding him of what his talking points should be so he had no idea what was happening when someone asked him an actual "gotcha" question.

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anupespe In reply to Plowplot [2015-11-23 04:27:45 +0000 UTC]

I know he always talks bullshit

btw, do you have a link or not?

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Plowplot In reply to anupespe [2015-11-23 15:23:29 +0000 UTC]

www.nytimes.com/politics/first…

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anupespe In reply to Plowplot [2015-11-24 09:57:16 +0000 UTC]

ok cool, i got the link from that site..... 

anyways whats a little database gonna hurt?

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Plowplot In reply to anupespe [2015-11-24 13:45:28 +0000 UTC]

Well, you see, if you want to dehumanize a group of people you separate them out. Saying that Muslims, Syrians, Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, or whatever are so dangerous they need to be identified and tracked is the first step in getting the public OK with the idea that hurting and oppressing that group of people is OK.

Just look at what the "Gang Violence" propaganda has done in America. Real gang violence like you see in movies and on TV, like you hear about on Fox News and are told we have to protect our children from by having cops in every school, only actually happens in a few major cities. Most cities don't actually have a "Gang problem" at all but because of all the propaganda put out as part of the "War on drugs." Police can get away with doing pretty much anything they want to minorities by saying they suspect that person is involved in a gang.

As long as we allow the government to change people into groups with vague labels, the government will use that label as justification to do things we would never let them get away with if we thought of the victims of the abuse as people.

Example:
1) 20 year old, black male on his way home from work gets pulled over and shot while unarmed. America is in an uproar.

2) 20 year old, black male on his way home from work gets pulled over and shot while unarmed, but the cops just report it as "Gang member resists during traffic stop." and it never makes the news so no one cares.

The only real difference is the power of that "Gang member" label.

No one care at all because

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anupespe In reply to Plowplot [2015-12-03 18:51:57 +0000 UTC]

The only real difference is the power of that "Gang member" label.
LoL....the only real difference is the power of that "Black" male.
remember www.breitbart.com/big-governme…

Just look at what the "Racist Cops" propaganda has done in America, Racism like you see in TV, like you hear about on CNN, actually is an exaggeration.
They always try to hide inconvenient and bitter truth like black on black violence and whites killed by cops ratio.
CNN and NBC News doesn't tell you that type of truth because it doesn't fit their agenda. 

Example
1)cop shoots a violent criminal who happened to be white - nobody bats an eye, the cop was simply doing his duty, end of story .
2)cop shoots a violent criminal who happened to be black - outrage, the cop was a racist, the innocent black man was unarmed and surrendered.

# all lives matter, including police lives.

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Plowplot In reply to anupespe [2015-12-03 20:22:13 +0000 UTC]

I agree, all lives do matter. The reason BlackLivesMatter is a thing is that blacks get shot far, far more than whites by cops.

Did you see: www.rawstory.com/2015/12/bombs…
where cops just planted illegal drugs and weapons on blacks when pulling them over for traffic stops. The non-racist cops in the area reported what was happening and the DA ignored the reports and kept putting the innocent people in prison anyway. Thousands of people since back in the mid-90's.

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