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a president who isnt afraid of telling the truth
a president who dont neceassarily use politcally correct words to appease certain people
a president who isnt a dhimmi
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The only person in this race who isn't just going to roll over and keep selling America to the 1% is Bernie sanders and the media never even talks about him.
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because he dont want to fight ISIS
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He doesn't want to fight ISIS -alone-. There is a difference. ISIS isn't just am American problem. Americans are ready to just pull the fuck out unless the people who live over there actually get off their collective asses and help. Why should America spend all it's money and waste all it's soldier's lives fighting for the freedom of people who don't want us there? Fuck that noise! Get in the game and help or we're leaving and then they will have to deal with ISIS like it or not.
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Its true that nobody wants US in the middle east....but why is it that Obama is helping the rebels over there?
another thing to mention is that, like it or not, ISIS has set its eyes on the US, and the US think its not their problem? to me it sounds like chamberlain saying Nazis were not the problem for Brits.
i'm not saying US must invade middle east and put a stop to IS, but atleast they must show the courage to stop IS if it is trying to motivate homegrown terrorists.
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We've been fighting for FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS and almost no one has stepped up to help. Hell, the people we did train and arm, threw down those arms and ran the fuck away like pussies. If you ask me, the people in the middle east deserve ISIS. Those idiots have been fighting over who's imaginary friend is stronger for thousands of years. America is becoming less and less dependent on oil every day and when we become self-sufficient, they will be the rest of the world's problem. You can't fix stupid and it's a waste of money to try. We're going to take what we need and leave. The people who live there have had 15 fucking years to get out. If they haven't by now, they can sleep in the bed they have made.
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no one has stepped up to help? help in what? help to create the matters worse?
If you ask me...it's the US that's deserve ISIS after all they done to destabilize the middle east. Those 'idiots seemed fine when saddam was in charge.
We're going to take what we need and leave
typical colonial policy....and let someone else deal with the mess you've created?
The people who live there have had 15 fucking years to get out. If they haven't by now, they can sleep in the bed they have made.
Wow, and where do you think they are supposed to go? just vanish into thin air?........ you dont burn someone elses home and then comment that they are supposed to go somewhere else and its not your concern. very thoughtful.
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>it's the US that's deserve ISIS after all they done to destabilize the middle east.
I agree, the U.S. shouldn't have ever went into the middle east we should have just let the people who have been at war with each other for thousands of years fight it out amongst themselves. Sadly, the U.S. did invade and now there is a mess, but we can leave, they live there. If they don't want us to leave a mess, they can help. I know it's a shitty situation, but I didn't vote for it, I've spoken out against war my entire adult life but I'm sick and tired of paying for other people's problems.
>and where do you think they are supposed to go?
Are you saying there is literally no where they could go where radical towelheadism couldn't follow them? The people fighting for control of the middle east are like the people who keep on rebuilding their house in Tornado Alley. If you know your shit is going to be wrecked by living there, WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU MOVE? It would be better to just pack some clothes in a backpack and walk the fuck out of the war zone than fight for a home in a bombed out, constantly hostile wasteland. If Isis wants your town that bad, let them have it. It's just a house. There are much better places to live in the world. Even if you have to walk away, then fucking walk because at least you'll be ALIVE and when the innocent people are out of the area the rest of the world can bomb the shit out of ISIS without needing to worry about you, then you can move back and rebuild.
Here a wild fucking concept for you, after 15 fucking years, there are no innocent civilians in the ISIS warzones, there are people who are choosing to stay and shield ISIS and there are ISIS fighters. I know that is a radical thing to say and not overly politically correct, but you know what, it's true.
If you're town has been embroiled in war for more than 3 years, you are not a soldier, and you haven't left, you are protecting the enemy because we have to worry about protecting you when we try and kill them.
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If they don't want us to leave a mess, they can help
help who? the US? you kidding me, they dont need your help, they only want you to stop making matters worse....if you ask obama who is he actually fighting? the IS or assad regime?, he clearly has no answer, because he wants both out...so how do you expect them to help you when you dont like them anyway.
besides what happened the last time when vietnamese helped americans---they got butchered and murica ran away with tails tucked underneath them....the afghans who helped US were sent to the stone age...dont expect anybody to help you if you are known to betray them.
If you know your shit is going to be wrecked by living there, WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU MOVE?
why dont you tell this to those PALISFAILIANS?
then you can move back and rebuild.
I dont think the refugees have any intentions to move back especially when they get spoiled by growing dependent on the EU welfare.
there are people who are choosing to stay and shield ISIS and there are ISIS fighters. I know that is a radical thing to say and not overly politically correct, but you know what, it's true.
it is true to some extent.....but there are also people who are held at gunpoint....there are children and female sex slaves who cant leave even if they want to.
If you're town has been embroiled in war for more than 3 years, you are not a soldier, and you haven't left, you are protecting the enemy because we have to worry about protecting you when we try and kill them.
was that the same case when americans who lived under british controlled towns? or the french who lived in nazi occupied paris?
look, i know this sounds funny, most of these guys dont leave because they dont want to go to a far away place which is totally different from their culture.....if their arab brothers were willing to take them in, they they might actually leave....but USA and EU is appeasing them and too afraid to coerce them into taking refugees.
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>if you ask obama who is he actually fighting? the IS or Assad regime?
>dont expect anybody to help you if you are known to betray them.
I agree completely, Obama and his administration have fucked up the middle-east so much we should just get the fuck out and let the people there solve their own problems. I agree with you that the U.S. is just making things worse. We should get out, the world doesn't need or want our help at this point.
>why dont you tell this to those PALISFAILIANS?
You do know, you can just walk out of Palastine at any time, right? If there wasn't a way in and out, those people would have all starved to death by now. They have supply tunnels, a black market, a spy network, and all that means people can get out if they want to. The people there, are there because they want to hold their land against an insurmountable military force. It's a heroic story of people dying because they think death is better than moving.
>was that the same case when Americans who lived under British controlled towns? or the french who lived in nazi occupied Paris?
In both those cases, the "Resistance" was part of a larger military operation. The people in the middle east do not have an Army. They can't get their shit together well enough to police their own people much less build an army. If there was even a snowball's chance in hell of the war ever ending I would be all for America staying over there and fighting with them, but we aren't fighting -with- them we are fighting -for- them and the lack of cooperation, hell, event he lack of willingness to give us basic information, is making it worse for everyone involved.
When they made the movie Team America: World Police it wasn't suppose to be a guide for foreign relations.
>most of these guys dont leave because they dont want to go to a far away place which is totally different from their culture.
That right there is the stupidest reasoning on the face of the earth. It's like saying, "There is a super-virus killing people in my town. I'm not infected yet, but I could catch it and die at any moment. I think I'll choose to stay here and take my chances because I wouldn't want to go somewhere safe." Your "Culture" is not worth your LIFE. Your "Culture" is not worth the life of your family. If you choose to stay in a warzone because you are so attached to your "Culture" then you are part of the problem.
If your "Culture" wasn't so barbaric and backwards that you knew the rest of the world wouldn't accept it, then you wouldn't be afraid to move to a civilized nation. Hint: America has had Muslims in it since it was founded. The founding fathers literally welcomed them, in person and made multiple speeches saying how they are our brothers. For hundreds of years, American Muslims lived in peace in America. No one cared about them being here until the barbaric "Culture" you are defending by living in that warzone, attacked us.
Why do you think people around the globe hate people in the middle-east so much? It isn't because they are Muslim, it's because they are supporting murders.
By being there, by shielding the enemies of civilization, even if they are morally against what ISIS stands for, they are still supporting them. You are either with the civilized world or you are with the barbarians. If you not with the barbarians, then don't be with the barbarians, move the fuck out of the way.
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the world doesn't need or want our help at this point.
true, the world never needed your help. not korea, not vietnam, not afghanistan, nobody wants US help, USA is just trying to make matters worse in the name of helping them.
The people there, are there because they want to hold their land against an insurmountable military force. It's a heroic story of people dying because they think death is better than moving.
wow, when it comes to the case of Palestinians, its heroic martrydom against evil bloodsucking oppressors, what a nice double standard.
in reality they are not capable of standing a jewish attack if the jews want to wipe them out. the jews not making their move doesnt mean that palestinians succeeded in resisting.
The people in the middle east do not have an Army. They can't get their shit together well enough to police their own people much less build an army.
i havent come across such a big ignorant comment...... the kurds and yazidis are valiantly fighting an enemy which is continuously supplied by the US.
even the shias has stepped up to help. Why on earth do you expect them to co-operate with US who is arming their enemy?
That right there is the stupidest reasoning on the face of the earth
well, let me ask you...suppose a civil war happens in USA....where would you choose to go
a)canada with which you share similar culture and similar climate and close by.
b)some country in the africa where they have totally different culture and you might face a huge risk trying to get there and face an even bigger threat by living in a hostile unforgiving environment there.
depending on your choice we can determine whether you are stupid or not.
I think I'll choose to stay here and take my chances because I wouldn't want to go somewhere safe.
that depends on how you define safe- is it travelling in a unseaworthy boat risking everything including the very lives of your kids and family and finally reaching a xenophobic destination.
thats sounds more of suicidal than safe ,in my opinion
Your "Culture" is not worth your LIFE. Your "Culture" is not worth the life of your family.
havent you figured it by now? these guys place their barbaric culture and religion above everything else.....they are willing to die and probably even sacrifice their family for their god
No one cared about them being here until the barbaric "Culture" you are defending by living in that warzone, attacked us.
Jefferson did care....when they started attacking americans and kidnapping them and selling them as sex slaves...hell he even went to war with them.
Why do you think people around the globe hate people in the middle-east so much? It isn't because they are Muslim, it's because they are supporting murders.
NO...its because muslims support murder
By being there, by shielding the enemies of civilization, even if they are morally against what ISIS stands for, they are still supporting them
isnt that waht palestinians are doing? shielding Hamas?
If you not with the barbarians, then don't be with the barbarians, move the fuck out of the way.
except that, many of the barbarians also choose to come along with you.
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>suppose a civil war happens in USA....where would you choose to go.
We had one of those and many people in the south fled to the north because they knew it was going to be a bloodbath down there.
>isnt that waht palestinians are doing? shielding Hamas?
Yes, and they should move the fuck out of the war zone. I really think that the U.S. should spend less money on bombing people and more money on sending ships over to help move the people in the war zones out to safer places.
People in Syria figured this shit out I don't see how it's so hard for the rest of them. Yes, it might be dangerous to make the trip, but it's worth the risk for your family and all their future family to not have to worry about dying every day.
>except that, many of the barbarians also choose to come along with you.
Yeah, and we may get hit, but again, big picture, it will be safer for everyone. At least if they are in America we have an intelligence and monitoring system set up. We are working on mostly rumors and guesswork in the middle-east. I would much rather the terrorist battle be on our terf there there is no where for them to hide and we have all the advantages.
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