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Published: 2013-08-26 16:38:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 7099; Favourites: 112; Downloads: 0
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More often than not, people tend to bring up the problems of false reports during discussions about rape. A common belief is that they make up around 40-50% of rape reports.However, studies show that about 2-8% of rape reports are false:
www.icdv.idaho.gov/conference/…
www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/…
www.dhs.vic.gov.au/__data/asse…
I recommend taking those statistics into consideration next time you jump to the conclusion that someone is lying about being raped.
EDIT: Several people have asked me "So, are you saying that we shouldn't be concerned about false reports?"
No, I'm not. There's being concerned with false rape accusations and there's outright lying about the numbers to make it seem like a more widespread issue than it is. (There is also bringing it up just to derail from the topic of rape.) This stamp was made in response to certain groups who do this.
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Oh definitely they are. The FBI plays them down though as they play politics. FBI is totally untrustworthy anyway.
This case shows what the FBI are really like;
"A federal judge Thursday ordered the government to pay more than $101 million in the case of four men who spent decades in prison for a 1965 murder they did not commit after the FBI withheld evidence of their innocence."
www.cbsnews.com/news/wrongfull…
FBI agents faked evidence to put innocent people in prison;
wyselaw.com/index.php/2015/11/…
www.latimes.com/local/californ…
justicedenied.org/issue/issue_…
www.nysun.com/new-york/ex-mobs…
The 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center:
The FBI recruited Emad Salem, a former Egyptian Army Officer, to build a bomb for a terror cell in New York. Salem suggested using fake powder for the bomb but his FBI handlers insisted that he use real powder to build an actual, working bomb. Six people were killed and over 1000 injured.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2vpcA…
They lie, lie, lie all the damn time.
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Just because they don't happen often doesn't mean that we shouldn't worry about them when they do happen.
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Edit: yes. They DO happen alot these days.
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I like to beleive people until I have a reason not to
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YES, they are. Unless you are saying that FBI statistics and statistics from police departments across the country are lying.
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Actually false rape accusations ARE common
In 2009, Nassau County was rocked by accusations of a gang rape being planned and committed by five male students.
www.newsday.com/long-island/na…
- but the accuser had made up story, and the 5 young men were completely innocent. They were very lucky - gothamist.com/2009/09/17/hofst…
- because many other men accused of rape have suffered their lives being destroyed, losing years and even decades in prison, for rapes which in truth they had not committed.
Johnathan C. Montgomery was accused of rape by a former neighbour. His life was ruined and he spent 4 years in prison – for a crime which had not committed. His accuser, Elizabeth Paige Coast, later admitted that she'd made the whole story up and had lied on the witness stand.
www.richmond.com/news/latest-n…
Bennett Barbour was convicted in 1978 of a rape he didn’t commit . At trial, he had an alibi supported by several witnesses. He didn’t match the victim’s description of her attacker. Police found no physical evidence connecting him to the crime, beyond the eyewitness identification by his alleged victim . Barbour was handed an 18-year sentence and paroled after nearly five years – but in that five years he lost his six-month-old marriage, and scarred his relationship with his daughter. His life was destroyed.
www.slate.com/articles/news_an…
Michael Phillips was arrested by Dallas police after a 16-year-old white girl identified him as the man who beat and raped her in a hotel. The girl claimed her attacker wore a black and white ski mask, but she bit his hand and was able to pull off the mask. She instantly recognized Phillips, who worked as a maintenance man and lived at the hotel, she told investigators. She later picked him out of a lineup, cementing his fate. He served 12 years in prison, but the nightmare continued after his release in 2002. He failed to register as a sex offender in 2004 and was ordered to spend another six months behind bars. Michael Phillips was innocent all along.
www.nydailynews.com/news/natio…
James Bain was convicted of breaking and entering, kidnapping, and rape in 1974 and sentenced to life in prison. He spent the next 35 years transferring between six different prisons across the state of Florida. James Bain was in truth innocent.
www.businessinsider.com/james-…
Timothy Brian Cole was a student at Texas Tech when he was convicted and sentenced to 25 years in prison for rape. He died in prison for a crime that he did not commit. Another innocent man accused of rape whose life was destroyed.
edition.cnn.com/2014/09/17/us/…
Gary Dotson was convicted of rape when he was 22 years old. He lost 12 years of life in prison, for a crime which he did not commit. The 16 year old girl rape-accuser later admitting that the story of her being gang raped was a complete fabrication.
www.law.northwestern.edu/legal…
More false rape allegations here;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tah9KI…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEuYKy…
www.breitbart.com/big-governme…
www.theguardian.com/law/2014/d…
www.theguardian.com/society/20…
www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinki…
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic…
All of the above are terrible, and they're far from unique. Imagine how much worse it would have been for even more more men if we never bothered with the requirement for evidence when someone is accused of rape? That is the dystopian nightmare which ideologues such as Lacy Green are paving the road to.
More false rape charges that collapsed after the accuser was exposed as a liar;
hooktube.com/watch?v=vQvSEGqwi…
These false rape claims never stop;
www.thecollegefix.com/they-kep…
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Even if they're not common, we have a court system that treats the accused as "innocent until proven guilty" for a reason.
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How can we possibly know the percentage of rape reports that are fake?
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Funny seeing you here.
Anyways, glacethewolf? Can't say I completely remember, I have shit memory when it comes to placing names on faces.
Ofc, nobody can say for sure. that's why I don't rag on anybody for it. They say they were raped, depending on the argument, that would be irrelevant to the topic. I made the mistake of calling a girl who was raped a liar on some other site, I done fucked up and dug a grave for myself with that. She happen to be charismatic as fuck, so she had friends...tons of friends that eventually became mods and admins of the site, every time I go n there, I'm subject to harassment, ridicule, all sorts of mistreatment. No one can say anything, I've already have a bad rep from before, who's gonna defend me? But I digress. Take the rape case of that singer; Kesha, people believe she's lying...I know she ain't.
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I found the pic, also, I'm sorry about what happen to you. I just hope the fucker is caught before he tried with anybody else. Lets just hope he never crosses my path, or in all honesty...I'd probably kill him, I'd literally forget my religion for about...15 minutes. Then I'd be going to jail. Feminist might parade for me to get a lean sentence, or they might pay me no mind at all cause I'm a man.
But I digress.
If my interpretation of rape culture is correct...then... IMO I wouldn't say we(the people of America) are living in a rape culture per say, cause compare here to the middle east where if a girl's robe or whatever is an inch shorter, there is a 75% chance she'll get raped, go home, get beaten by her brother and father, there goes a now 40% chance of another rape, and then death. Like honestly, compare that to here, but even though I honestly don't think a rape culture exist here in the USA per say, IMO, but I'd say that there are spooks of rape culture happening here; the guy saying rape should be legal cause it'll magically somehow stop rape, 3rd wave radfems yelling that we live in a rape culture ourselves, some random girl saying all rapist should be release from jail and rape is good(another worse part about that is that she was black), and the amount of men raped in prison sky rocketing. All that stuff happening. I wouldn't be surprise if we were heading into a full blown rape culture as we speak.
TL;DR: We don't live in an EXACT rape culture YET, IMO , but with the rate of rapes rising for BOTH GENDERS in this society that promotes sex as much as living promotes breathing, we are surely getting there. Cause religiously speaking, there will be a rape culture, it's 'Makutub' as I would say, it's bound to happen. Cause the book already said shit is gonna get worse, rape culture, suicide culture, all that stuff.
JAL;DRT: It's like the symptoms of a flu, you don't exactly have the flu yet, but you can prevent it. And since this system has people who see rape as worse than murder, and the fact that there are people in prison who are wrongfully put there for rape accusations. Men go to jail for life terms every day for doing that to women. Ever heard of the girl who dreamed she was getting raped?www.nydailynews.com/news/crime…
AVFL;GOWI: We are headed to shit..slowly...but surely...IMO
And I don't think I'm being bias here, mainly cause; I've been to prison, that shit makes the middle east look like Disney World when it comes to rape. If you raped, attempted to, or even hit a woman or child...when you get in prison...they make you regret it, they deliver poetic "justice". And they love targeting those types, that or weak guys. Any sorta slip up that made you look feminine or weak...meant you were going to get raped, now imagine me as a teen getting charged as an adult, 2 years. You might as well hang yourself with your blanket sheets. Or do what I did and hardly bathe and use the restroom, stay quite, draw and play poker. Thank FUCK I was taller than most of them. The guys in NJ be short asf. But I digress. At least in the Middle East, they can literally try to run, in prison...where you gonna try to run? Nothing worse than having the rapist less than a couple feet away from you and the cops only a couple feet away not even trying to help. Thank God I was the most generic looking nigga in there...or I would have gotten raped.
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;; And I mean, I feel like I shouldn't tell people that I don't know well this. But, you seem like a cool guy. Anyway, that was a really long comment, so I'll understand if you don't want to reply to that. Took me forever to write that lol. xD
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Need not worry, I'll reply to it. Heh, has that been bothering you all this time, awaiting my reply? Well, I do apologize for keeping a lady waiting.
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Heh, I see. Well despite how I often carry about myself, IRl, I'm pretty organized when it comes to schedules. So I make time for here and various other things.
Yes I agree.
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I don't know.
That's not really relevant since I'm only talking about legal reports.
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Just not trying to leave out the concept.
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But why isn't it. Why not consider the other aspects, why limit?
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Not all false rape reports are false sometimes people want to forget about it
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Maybe; but that still doesn't make it right to act like they never ever happen!
All crimes have people who falsely accuse. I see no reason why rape should be treated differently in this regard!
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What part of "not common" do you not understand?
The reason I bring this up is because so many people think that false rape is common when it isn't. Those very same people pay no attention to false reports of other crimes.
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I understand perfectly that it isn't common! I'm just pointing out a fact.
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You're far from being the first person to bring this up, so that's just a tad redundant.
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So, if more than one person beings up a point, it's redundant?
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Well, yeah. You intended to supply new information but you didn't. The point was redundant the first time it was brought up, for obvious reasons.
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"...obvious reasons." Those being?...
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You can't tell me can you, because there isn't a reason.
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HA HA HA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tah9KI…
If somebody can fill a whole fucking top ten with false rape accusations, then maybe you're just a teeny bit wrong.
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Your going to use an Amazing Atheist video to disprove information collected from LEGAL and ACADEMIC studies?
Also, fun fact: TAA threatened a rape victim over the internet and is a self-proclaimed pedophile.
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give me evidence on him saying he is a pedo
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....buuuttt you do know they happen, right? You're not just one of those feminists who agrees with every accusation of rape?
Not that real rape doesn't happen, it so fucking clearly does. But accusing someone of rape is a very serious accusation. You can't just blindly trust one side of the story as the truth without proving it as such, or without even hapearing the other side, whether that side is true or not.
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What part of the phrase "not common" do you not understand?
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I thought the discussion was on the unspoken and unreported rapes of men by men and women... This too. But I heard the former more often.
And if anything, with the way Feminists jump on trains to support anything female, Emma Sulkowicz false reports will bring more to it. There was one about a few years ago IIRC in Canada too as well. Mattress Girl is obviously lying considering that she claims she was traumatized but so easily out of nowhere and on her own made a pornographic reenactment with some random dude with actual slapping and strangling going on in the video. No rape victim just does that. That's the LAST thing anyone should think to do when trying to make a message clear. And she is not fit to make that message.
When do we draw the line on WHO we believe, and when we believe? When did we get to a point where this so called equality movement called Feminism and SJW's become so rampant as to support her despite the evidence against her and not a single bit for her? Each of Paul Nungesser's (The so called rapist) past girlfriends who he broke up with are her testimonies? And some random guy who had no place being there? Some random SJW.
The issue lies in how we treat rape the way we do. We think "THAT'S SO BAD!!!" and fail to think "Just what really happened in the first place" instead of following the idea of "Justice". Justice is blind. That is why Lady Justice has a blind fold. Evidence must be weighed first before claims of innocence or guilt.
The procedure of justice MUST be met first before the attempt to make it happen otherwise justice becomes a tool for the greedy and the evil. That's why people hate judges. Because there is obvious corruption in all forms. But in this case, due process was followed. Justice held out. Not much since Emma still carried her mattress around campus, and having her followers send death threats to Paul despite being told "you're wrong and making a false claim" by due process.
If you don't follow procedure, then it becomes a baseless claim. Procedure brings bases.
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The bottom line is this: LEGAL studies have shown that false rape reports are significantly small in number. Until I see legal proof confirming the opposite, I am not going to believe the MRA claim that they are common.
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You are not one to tell me that without citations besides random internet articles.
Bottom line is innocent until proven guilty. Learn it. Fuck. Female. Worshiping.
Significantly small is the number of males raping.
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How about you actually look at the description and follow the provided links before you jump to the conclusion that I'm only providing "random internet citations"?
Knowing that mistakes happen in court (regarding rape cases or otherwise) doesn't equal "female worshiping".
Your comment is not a proper counterargument against my statement of false reports being uncommon.
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How bout you just get actual citations that have relevance. Your comment was never capable of countering anything. All it did was spout more accusations against males as being majority rapists, all rapes being majority by males because Anita Sarkeesian told you so, and that women are majority of the time not lying even though you can't prove that without being a part of the due process yourself.
You're a fucking Feminazi. A pussy worshiper.
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If you're going to reiterate with nothing but strawmanning and misplaced ad hominems, you're no longer welcome to comment here. Goodbye.
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