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Published: 2006-12-18 19:49:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 204; Favourites: 0; Downloads: 0
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Description just a tryout.. heheh.. critiques welcomed..
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mizSCREAM [2007-01-07 21:49:27 +0000 UTC]

haha.. no. you=

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r-aiz In reply to mizSCREAM [2007-01-07 23:20:27 +0000 UTC]

heheh..

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r-aiz In reply to mizSCREAM [2007-01-07 23:20:06 +0000 UTC]

umm, nope.. thats you..

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mizSCREAM [2007-01-05 02:15:42 +0000 UTC]

daym! hot debate. Aaaanyway why do I get this feeling that I've seen you around before? Weird.

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r-aiz In reply to mizSCREAM [2007-01-07 16:27:37 +0000 UTC]

bcos im hott? heheh

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Tip17 [2006-12-21 04:43:54 +0000 UTC]

kiwak...pe panjang!!!

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k-rul [2006-12-20 19:04:19 +0000 UTC]

Btw first of all im not beefin or argue-ing its juz tat I wanna see ya responds towards it, if im wrong.. im wrong, if im right.. im right. btw i didnt intend to critic till ya respond in a way of "NOT an ALL OUT attack on me"..so i juz say my part & ya say ur part.. so thats it, people sometimes "terkasar bahasa" but i didnt mean to really critic or attack wit no such reason, till it end up badly, its juz words of negative comments into it.. its wether ya can or cant except it, not really to dissin on it badly.. that is juz an opinion & its all up too you..coz i noe wat i'ma tryin to say..If ya take it to hard, ya can see me & meet me face to face & talk abt it..im fine wit it. coz i noe wat im doin, i hav been in religious classs too........btw an apology for wat i hav comment, if i speak it to hard.

besides im not in a arguement state for the negative comments that i hav made. dont give baseless accusation & sayin im argue for wat i had comment.. or izit ya argue for it?? or ya really mad, till ya intend to use those words of urs to attack me even ya intend not too? besides, i declare that this reply to ya that I aint mad or argue abt this matter. so i noe ya cant accept it or can i say ya too defensive, no offense. coz as i understand some people hav to respond or retaliate instead of doin nothing, as to noe wat is about or hav their pride to say. but its ouhk, i accept ur "NOT an ALL out" attack on me. again i apologies what i commented early.

Btw the phrase "sejahat mane aku pon aku masih ingat agama ku" its not a "scarstic" towards ur fren skills, its juz a reflect on me, coz im not tryin to be a uztaz or sumtin on the statement by sayin that, so why ya feel the pinch??. is juz wat i hav to say out the facts i had done. so wat i ever i commented on skills DA is wat i hav to say. & uztaz tu sendiri teguh aku nye kesalahan. so i hav to accept it & I juz inherit to comment it on skillz DA, even ya sayin im argue or dissin ur crewmate wit baseless accusations, coz its juz an opinion comment & ya see it as I criticize it badly wit baseless accusations. dont get me wrong bro, im not a big freak who boast wit critics, who am i for that..so for what & why would i demise myself & gave a baseless accusation? get wat i mean. besides its juz a small matter hope ya dont take it too hard.

anyways thanks for the detailed step-by-step responds. nuff said.
peace apon you.

Klaxon99.
Anak Singapura Writers

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r-aiz In reply to k-rul [2006-12-21 00:02:42 +0000 UTC]

nah, wat i mean is that you demanded me to change without any reasons in ur comments. then u link me to skillz DA for me to read instead of u explaining it to me for urself. again and again i will reiterate that using the arabic fonts as a form of expression has always been allowed freely as long as it does not directly or indirectly destroy or spoil the image of Islam such as the prophet Muhammad's cartoon furore in foreign countries. we are knowledgeable enough to already know that as Muslims but we're not extremists, we're conservatives so we act not by force and violence but by talks and discussions to solve the problem.

that is where u, in trying to get ur message across, instead have sent 'aku da bilang skillz dah..pastu kau lak..masik letak..' when i had no idea that u rebuffed his art piece. if u want to critique, there is no place for such ignorance such as asking someone to change his artwork all out and not give legitimate reasons.

furthermore, u have said in ur later comment that i felt a pinch? what pinch would that be when u, the one who gave the comments, have still not supported ur stand. it is clear that i had wanted to clear the doubts about the using of arabic fonts but u have tried to manipulate the situation whereby, in ur later statement, u wrote that 'so i noe ya cant accept it or can i say ya too defensive, no offense. coz as i understand some people hav to respond or retaliate instead of doin nothing, as to noe wat is about or hav their pride to say.' again u counterattack with words and language that, in this context, is dangerously lurking in the offensive department.

btw, it is not for the sake of pride and the need to fight back that i gave a detailed reply. it is the need to get this misunderstanding solved as soon as possible and to inform u towards the use of arabic fonts so as you wud be passed down the knowledge as to why we continue to use these fonts, why it isnt a crime or prejudice against our religion.

and if u said that the ustadz corrected ur mistake, u still have not, even till now, stated on what basis that he corrected u for. so i find this awfully fishy as it is the second time u have commented but shed no light on why u were teguh by the ustadz and if it is related to ur comments about the artwork or not.

on this account, i accept ur apology but it has still baffled me that ur reponse lacks the enthusiasm of letting this case rest. i dun need to prove whether i am right or wrong cos the facts that i presented shall speak for itself. so dun take it too hard yeah?

peace upon u too.

Aiz

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k-rul [2006-12-19 17:41:35 +0000 UTC]

plz change the arabic fonts too..ibarat kan ayat allah & muhammad. aku da bilang skillz dah..pastu kau lak..masik letak..juz click this [link] scroll down ngok aku nye comment to noe y...sori for the inconvenient.

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r-aiz In reply to k-rul [2006-12-20 00:11:25 +0000 UTC]

i am sorry but i have asked the relevant people about this and it is to my knowledge that these do not have any such links to ayat allah and muhammad.. the letters are written in arabic fonts and therefore even if u write in jawi, u still use the arabic fonts. i hereby declare that ur argument is inconsequential as the resemblance in this case is not possible due to the reasons below by order of each different case-:

1) ur arguments on the grounds that they are similar to some ayat is greatly rejected as it is clear that ayat allah and muhammad is not even an ayat at all. it is by case two separate words which are allah and muhammad. they are NOT conjoined.

2) i have taken madrasah recently till the 'O' Level standard and have done many projects involving writing and presentation. this includes using arabic fonts as a medium to write in malay and english language to provide more awareness to the fonts itself as it helps in the form of creativity and has no intention whatsoever of destroying or polluting the image of islam. the asatizah that have seen my works have encouraged me in my efforts and thus this is seen as a step positive for the movement of art, not restricting the freedom of artists.

3) quoting from ur comments on skillz's DA , "i like & agree with ur style..but i dont agree with the arabic fonts..kerana kau nye arabic fonts mcm ayat but i can understand tat is killa instinct u wanna write.. but ade part of it looks ayat ALLAH & MUHAMMAD..but its wrong bro.. ibarat kan kau modified tat ayat Allah & Muhammad. its discriminate. kalau uztaz nampak ni kau gerenti kene lecture rabak..ibarat kau mengutuk ayat. aku pesan kau jadi harap kau tukar sebelum kau di tukarkan".

ur views, pardon me, are baseless as you certainly have not done research before giving ur two cents worth on this piece. ur views are based on BLIND accusations and thus ur mind is clouded by obscure thoughts, making ur views obsolete as they are only negative thoughts to art pieces, not wanting to understand and feel the artwork and instead find its weaknesses solely for the sake of finding them. as my ustad that thought Islamic History used to say," never give baseless accusations, because it will lead to ur own demise.."

4) "sejahat mane aku, pon aku masik ingat asal agama ku".this sentence has angered me as it is clearly an outright attack on my fren skillz. no matter wat u have written seems as though u have a just cause to reason, it is clearly shown in the laguage u have used that ur purpose is fuelled by anger and an outright urge to use something as an excuse to bring someone down and not by facts and knowledge. ur views are short and again, baseless..

On the contrary, i have given a detailed fact report on why i have done the artwork and thus justify my actions through this medium as i do not see a fiery exchanging of views as an approprite manner to solve this misunderstanding on ur part.

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by far, i have proved my point in opposing ur views and thus, there is no need for me to further reiterate my points, unless u are unsure of any of my explanations, which u can approach me at any moment if you have doubts to clear.

i also wanna declare that this is NOT an ALL OUT attack on you but a detailed step-by-step approach which i deem appropriate as i do not want my views to be biased towards neither my crewmates nor urself.

thank you for your critiques..

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Tip17 [2006-12-19 01:17:35 +0000 UTC]

fulamak...fierce argh nie!!

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r-aiz In reply to Tip17 [2006-12-19 04:09:19 +0000 UTC]

makaseh bnyk2 bro..

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e-mn [2006-12-18 23:07:02 +0000 UTC]

aiz aiz baby!!(too cold too cold.......)

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r-aiz In reply to e-mn [2006-12-19 04:07:56 +0000 UTC]

of course.. its been raining the past few days.. heheh

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