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Description Penned with micron, shaded with prismacolor markers and then slightly adjusted in PS.
Primary Resource: [link]
If anyone knows the name of the photographer, that would be great.
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Comments: 21

AwesomePonyTail [2011-02-25 23:41:08 +0000 UTC]

So this is how you're supposed to shade wings. . .
Thank you!

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racehell In reply to AwesomePonyTail [2011-02-26 00:55:40 +0000 UTC]

Well that's how I did it. >.< I only had 2 prismacolor markers. Dark grey and light grey. Glad it helps!

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AwesomePonyTail In reply to racehell [2011-02-28 00:44:33 +0000 UTC]

Well you did a pretty good job with just three shades of marker!

How did you do it? Just guessing? Experience? Reference? I'd like to know, please and thank you.

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racehell In reply to AwesomePonyTail [2011-03-02 02:19:56 +0000 UTC]

Well this was my reference [link] but I wanted it to be super high contrast so I made the dark areas darker, prismacolors are really great at blending even if you're new like me. I usually use pencils, not markers. I guess the best advice I can give is practice. I turn out alot of low quality work before I finish a piece like this. sketches, different ways of shading, different textures. You'll find what works best for you. Alot of experimenting with different materials and strokes is going to get you what you want.

With prismacolor markers, or any wet media, I find it blends better when its still wet. The key is to work precisely, but fast. If you come back a day later it wont blend as well as before. but maybe I'm just superstitious. What I'm really bad at, is over working an area. Sometimes you need to step back, look at the piece as a whole, not just in pieces.

Wow I kinda wrote you a novel. I hope that was helpful and not gobbledygook. If you have any specific questions, I'd be glad to share what I've learned.

Good luck!

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AwesomePonyTail In reply to racehell [2011-03-06 15:21:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh thank you! That was really helpful. I'll keep all that in mind next time I draw/ practice shading.

As a matter of fact, I do have one question. About shading. I can do edges and dark areas fine, but it's the middle of the body or a large area that I can't figure out. I'm not sure how to shade stuff like that. I want something that looks complete, but not overdone, you know?
If you have any pointers on that, I appreciate it.

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racehell In reply to AwesomePonyTail [2011-03-07 01:44:53 +0000 UTC]

Well its all about gradient and where the light is hitting the highlights. Do you have something you're working on or a piece you wish was better? Its hard to talk about it without an example.
Since I usually work in pencil I do my dark areas first, define my light areas with an eraser (or if its colored pencil by masking it off) then work out the gradient in between. Depending on the depth of the object, it will change how quickly something becomes darker or lighter. It sounds boring, but drawing still lives in black and white is really helpful. You can apply what you learn to more imaginative pieces.

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AwesomePonyTail In reply to racehell [2011-03-17 23:05:44 +0000 UTC]

Well I was thinking about a horse when I asked you. I have problems shading the somewhat empty areas of the front and hindquarters.

You are very helpful! Thanks!

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racehell In reply to AwesomePonyTail [2011-03-22 02:47:08 +0000 UTC]

Np!

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WingedSonar [2011-02-18 13:46:51 +0000 UTC]

If you're going to do that, you need to credit the original artist. Great interpretation of it to greyscale though!

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racehell In reply to WingedSonar [2011-02-19 00:20:50 +0000 UTC]

Original Artist? Is me. I functioning perfectly within copyright laws. Since there is nothing creatively significant in the image of a side view bat, type in bat in google and you will find 10 poses exactly similar, but I have made something creatively distinct, with my one choices in line width, color blocking, structural anatomy and the like, this is my intellectual property. If I took a photo and popped it into PS and used the posters filter, that would be infringement. Do you mean to cite the photographer of my resource image? Because I have sevral, but the majority is one I found it on a crappy city website talking about rabies who did not cite the photographer. If you happen to know the photographer, please tell me their name and tell them their photo is being spammed on the internet. Trust me, I respect other artists, I know its a tough world out there.

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WingedSonar In reply to racehell [2011-02-19 02:47:33 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I didn't mean to make you go off like that, I just prefer sources noted for inspiration in the club. Yes, I just meant the photographer as the original artist.
Here's the one that's on Sunset: [link]
They note that it's just a catalog and not from the original artist with permission, but it's the best version on the internet and seems to be the one that's been used so many times.

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racehell In reply to WingedSonar [2011-02-22 05:12:59 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for flying off the handle at you, I just put a lot of effort into making my work and think it's really terrible when people do steal. The last thing I want is for people to think I'd take credit for someone else's work. Thank you for the link. I'm still looking for the photographers name. It thought it was this guy, Merlin D. Tuttle [link] who used to train bats to photograph them better, but its hard to say.

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WingedSonar In reply to racehell [2011-02-22 12:52:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah...what I meant was more "If you want to submit work to the club, you need to credit who your inspiration was," but I rushed, and lo, that's not how it came across. Eheh... Count one sheepish grin from me.

I thought it was Tuttle as well. The lighting's certainly his style. It's been used in so many places but never credited, so it's been bugging me. There's even a Xerox ink version on a pamphlet I own but only credit to the ink artist.

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racehell In reply to WingedSonar [2011-02-23 01:14:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I was definitely over defensive and over reacted. >.< Make that 2 sheepish grins.

Clearly, its a bat's self portrait and he just wants everyone to see his beauty.

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Draco6767 [2011-01-30 20:39:19 +0000 UTC]

That's just amazing

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racehell In reply to Draco6767 [2011-01-31 03:02:54 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Draco6767 In reply to racehell [2011-02-06 05:25:59 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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theamazingbroseph [2011-01-29 01:13:15 +0000 UTC]

very nice.

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racehell In reply to theamazingbroseph [2011-01-29 03:20:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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StaleEyez [2010-12-30 07:22:24 +0000 UTC]

Bats sure have some crazy wings. o_o
Great job with the contrast!

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racehell In reply to StaleEyez [2011-01-12 11:59:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I was tiered of seeing super black bats.

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